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It's EVEN WORSE when you remember that Illich is Monica's pedophile ex-boyfriend that she talked about 3 MONTHS before he got busted for being a massive pedophile... So, again, the only people that have been associated with convicted criminals and proven pedophiles are #KickVic:
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Keep in mind this was a couple of months before it was discovered that Guardiola was a pedo.

Fun fact: Guardiola was at Izumicon in 2008. I have no idea if he was at it in 2007.


Now that I mentioned it, Monica Rial was also at Izumicon 2008. Don't know why Guardiola isn't named, though.


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For someone who WAS a fan of RWBY, it cratered after we lost Monty. Miles Luna made himself the head writer and decided to drive the show into the fucking ground. Kerry Shawcross tried to fix it, but he didn't have a goddamn spine, so Miles eventually made Kerry head director instead of co-writer to get him off his back.

Miles as Rwby's head writer has worked out about as well as you'd expect... and just to rub salt in the wound, because Miles Luna can go fuck himself, here are some examples of his creepy obsession with 16-year-old Ruby Rose:

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YIKES.
I believe Kerry is actually a co-writer, and he and Miles have always been on the writing team.

yeah, the mute character that everyone writes fanfics about because she has no character. before this whole vic is a rapist thing, fan favorite qrow might have made it in, but that (along with that characters odds of surviving the next season) have dropped dramatically.
Qrow might have already been slated to die. The Vic stuff just makes them look bad if they go through with it.

I swear, somewhere down the line as I said Cuck Cuck Luna will get his own #MeToo, hell I’ll place some bets if I have to in regards to this feckless maggot.

That aside, Miles can’t write for shit and still sucks at it~ The Faunus / White Fang plotline should’ve been trashed post-Volume 3 because despite their race dealing with shit from slave labor, being caged up, discrimination, and even a bar we see with declining service towards the Faunus we’ve seen most of it after the fact since then or the only representatives of the racism was Cardin (An equal opportunity bully), Torchwick (A bad guy), and Weiss (Who watched an extremist group kill those close to her family, resulting in her Father being pissy) out of the first three volumes.

It’s sad when fanfic writers that aren’t fujoshits or Yuri girls can write better than Miles.

(Apologies for anyone reading this off-rail post)
Nah you’re good. Honestly, the Faunus discrimination thing is easily one of the most bashed things in the writing and is a poster child for why “show don’t tell” is a thing. As for Weiss, there’s a lot of missed opportunities with that subplot and her.

The fact Miles Luna has ruined RWBY never made sense to me. How do you go from the Chorus Trilogy to the garbage fire that is RWBY seasons 4 to 6?
Lots of things. That’s the short version.

No I can tell you exactly what killed comics. Marvel and DC are ran by cheap penny pinching bastards* that's how you end up with the shit tier writers and artists * who didn't learn a damn thing from the 90s comic crash.

You are giving SJWs way too much credit here.
Doesn’t help that the MCU showed that movies and TV are the real places where people give a shit.

SJWs were mostly in diapers/elementary school back in the early 90s when comics started down the slope to where they are now.

SJWs also aren't making industry vets like Ron Marz,Erik Larsen,Dan Slott,Greg Land,Jason Aaron,Mark Waid,Gerry Conway,Gail Simone etc act like giant pissbabies on Twitter to customers because team blue lost an election in 2016.


Yup Quesada gave us the edgy shitfest that was Ultimate Marvel and had to be tard rangled from completely nuking the 616verse.

Then came Civil War which completely ruined Iron Man and other heroes to the point they had to use Skrulls/brain damage to fix it. And of course OMD which was fueled by pure incel rage.
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So Captain America: Civil War adapted a turd?

Well there is always that guy that made the huge statement (I can't remember his name) about how good friends he was with Monty and how many plot threads were changed. such as Joan being the one to be the cause and witness phyrras death but they randomly changed it to Ruby for absolutely no reason despite ruby having little interaction with phyrra and Joan being super close to phyrra.
It honestly sounds like the people who took over like miles had a idea of what Monty wanted but removed it to turn it into their own personal lesbian circlejerk.
Seriously the amount of lesbians vs straights and gays in the series is uncanny
The guy’s name is Shane Newville. His letter is pretty easy to find on google. Mention “Shane’s Letter to a RWBY fan and they’ll no what you’re talking about.
 
A part of me says you are right. But then again, they would wind up alienating their conservative fans, they have no woke points after the unpaid overtime, subscription cost increase and the lovers quarrel shirt debacle. All the tweets about rainbows and tranny's don't mean anything because they'll work you to death all the same.

And we have to see what happens after the TCPA hearing. Right now Vic is still a predator because Funimations investigation is still valid, so Rooster Teeth made the "right" decision.

Funimation has to be broken first. Then we go for RT.

I think as soon as TCPA fails, if it does, the companies are going to take things way more seriously. Of course lawtwitter and the rest will still have their fall back excuses that it's going to fail summary judgement or that it's going to ruin Vic when it comes to the jury, but they can't argue that once the TCPA fails the idea of it being a matter for a lawsuit is ridiculous. TCPA failing states that the lawsuit isn't frivolous, and that there's enough likelihood of there being defamation/tortious conduct to justify suing someone over it, whether or not it turns out to be so.

Lawsuits are expensive even if you successfully defend yourself. I think the businesses are going to pay close attention if it gets past the TCPA phase. Immediately.

As somebody who is not a fan of RWBY, it gotten worse after the passing of Monty Oum. Not to mention that the fanbase is going down south very quickly.

I assumed they'd followed Monty's notes all season 3 and figured 4 or 5 is when the difference would appear, but then I found season 3 to be pretty awful by the end of it already. That now makes sense, knowing what was in that open letter about how they discarded Monty's notes long before the end of s3.

I believe Kerry is actually a co-writer, and he and Miles have always been on the writing team.


Qrow might have already been slated to die. The Vic stuff just makes them look bad if they go through with it.


Nah you’re good. Honestly, the Faunus discrimination thing is easily one of the most bashed things in the writing and is a poster child for why “show don’t tell” is a thing. As for Weiss, there’s a lot of missed opportunities with that subplot and her.


Lots of things. That’s the short version.


Doesn’t help that the MCU showed that movies and TV are the real places where people give a shit.


So Captain America: Civil War adapted a turd?


The guy’s name is Shane Newville. His letter is pretty easy to find on google. Mention “Shane’s Letter to a RWBY fan and they’ll no what you’re talking about.


The comics Civil War was a turd. the MCU handled it much better for what they wanted (people to bicker over whether Iron Man or Captain America are right). Civil War handled it so badly they had to run the Skrull Invasion arc right after to try to salvage the universe via Skrull retcon (and it still didn't save Tony until RDJ arrived).
 
I think as soon as TCPA fails, if it does, the companies are going to take things way more seriously. Of course lawtwitter and the rest will still have their fall back excuses that it's going to fail summary judgement or that it's going to ruin Vic when it comes to the jury, but they can't argue that once the TCPA fails the idea of it being a matter for a lawsuit is ridiculous. TCPA failing states that the lawsuit isn't frivolous, and that there's enough likelihood of there being defamation/tortious conduct to justify suing someone over it, whether or not it turns out to be so.

Lawsuits are expensive even if you successfully defend yourself. I think the businesses are going to pay close attention if it gets past the TCPA phase. Immediately.



I assumed they'd followed Monty's notes all season 3 and figured 4 or 5 is when the difference would appear, but then I found season 3 to be pretty awful by the end of it already. That now makes sense, knowing what was in that open letter about how they discarded Monty's notes long before the end of s3.




The comics Civil War was a turd. the MCU handled it much better for what they wanted (people to bicker over whether Iron Man or Captain America are right). Civil War handled it so badly they had to run the Skrull Invasion arc right after to try to salvage the universe via Skrull retcon (and it still didn't save Tony until RDJ arrived).
The MCU was a lot more neutral in it's tone and made Iron Man's POV reasonable and sympathetic wheras the comic turned him into a paranoid fascist along with Mr Fantastic.
 
It's EVEN WORSE when you remember that Illich is Monica's pedophile ex-boyfriend that she talked about 3 MONTHS before he got busted for being a massive pedophile... So, again, the only people that have been associated with convicted criminals and proven pedophiles are #KickVic:
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This and the tweets surrounding it have been sent to Nick and Ty, right?
 
Well there is always that guy that made the huge statement (I can't remember his name) about how good friends he was with Monty and how many plot threads were changed. such as Joan being the one to be the cause and witness phyrras death but they randomly changed it to Ruby for absolutely no reason despite ruby having little interaction with phyrra and Joan being super close to phyrra.
It honestly sounds like the people who took over like miles had a idea of what Monty wanted but removed it to turn it into their own personal lesbian circlejerk.
Seriously the amount of lesbians vs straights and gays in the series is uncanny

One Shane Newville (Unrelated to Shane the Shoeater) wrote that letter as pointed out by Random Internet Person, notably when he dropped that letter he came off as someone who overestimated his relationship with Monty and his major bias but like with Kathleen Zuelch and her Twitter meltdown where she effectively pissed napalm on the bridge between her and RT the developments since then led credence to their words about Cuck Teeth.

I will agree that the change of Pyrrha’s death was stupid, but figured that if they stuck to the original plan of Pyrrha’s death where Jaune was the cause of it due to protecting his untrained skinny ass the fandom would despise Miles’s self-insert fuckboy more than they already do;but fuck it the emotional weight would have mattered more, and explain how Jaune got her gear as to giving no explanation as how he has it now,

Hilariously, everyone has seen Barbara’s infamous “ITS JUST A CAAARRRTOOONNNNN” comment which exists because a person asked Miles or Kerry how Jaune got Pyrrha’s gear after the Fall of Beacon.

God damn it. I kind of liked Khan.

Sienna had a good design and great potential (Monica Pre-KickVic even did a decent job with her performance) but she was just as much of a plot device like Pyrrha with less screentime, who got done in by edgy furry Kylo Ren and her death had absolutely none of an impact...Trying to be like GRRM, but it’s a worse type of shock value when the middleman could be cut and making Adam the leader from the start after Blake’s father stood down would be easier.

But then I remember this is Miles and Kerry.
 
It always seems to be 'I don't know Vic very well, but Monica and Jaime are MY FRIENDS', almost like they're biased and not in any position to make a fair and balanced analysis of the situation. Especially when most of Vic's actual friends either say nothing or are out in support of him. "Monica would NEVER lie about this" of course you'd think that. She's your friend. Vic also thought 'Sabat would NEVER spread vile rumors about me behind my back' or 'Monica would NEVER make up a horrible story about me', because they were his friends, too.

If you're going to crater your popularity getting involved in this stupid scandal while providing stale old 'believe women' crap that stopped being compelling in February, at least come at it from the perspective of knowing both of the parties equally. Someone who's actually Vic's friend thinking he'd do this kind of thing is what people care about, and why Monica and Jaime's accusations were so damaging to his reputation. "I don't know Vic but--" means "Nothing I say about his actions matters".

Maybe instead of him just 'reacting' because his friend said something and he instantly believes them, he should have thought. If he did, he'd see that Jaime and Monica's accusations are laughable and the only proof that exists weighs against their stories being true.

But apparently he believes fully that Monica froze fought went along with Vic kissing throwing pushing her onto the bed and then Stan showed up as she covered her face and ran to him in distress and noticed she looked distressed and asked if she was okay and then forgot it immediately.



She went on a campaign against Dragonball for a while, and I think might have shown up in the news before this for other feminist crazy campaigns she went on. I doubt this is Monica's sock. I do, however, note how she got this nerd cred and immediately cashed it in to ruin Vic with. I had people talking to me after kickvic blew up saying they were disappointed in Sean, but that they knew Monica would come in and support him. There's a reason why Vic and BHBH are more concerned about Monica than Hanleia and the other fujos that kicked up a fuss. Marzgurl is only really a target because she went out of her way to create the hashtag and used her connections to spread it.



Sean was caught committing TI at Kamehacon last year, which is probably the real reason he wasn't invited back this year. He got Peter Kelamis kicked from the convention, because of all Goku VAs he hates Peter especially. Peter leaked it right before Sean was 'surprise' announced, the fans blew up about it, and Peter was eventually invited back.

He's also known for melting down at fans. He once got in a fight at a forum and posted his paystub to try to 'own' a fan that was fighting with him, and he's nuked his twitter once or twice to clean up after he got into crying fits against his fans. Once with the Kamehacon thing, and once when Chris Sabat told him to suck it up and stop whining that people wanted to know when they'd hear him play Goku again.



I don't care what side you're on, if you call Steins;Gate a bad dub, you're mistaken.
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One Shane Newville (Unrelated to Shane the Shoeater) wrote that letter as pointed out by Random Internet Person, notably when he dropped that letter he came off as someone who overestimated his relationship with Monty and his major bias but like with Kathleen Zuelch and her Twitter meltdown where she effectively pissed napalm on the bridge between her and RT the developments since then led credence to their words about Cuck Teeth.

I will agree that the change of Pyrrha’s death was stupid, but figured that if they stuck to the original plan of Pyrrha’s death where Jaune was the cause of it due to protecting his untrained skinny ass the fandom would despise Miles’s self-insert fuckboy more than they already do;but fuck it the emotional weight would have mattered more, and explain how Jaune got her gear as to giving no explanation as how he has it now,

Hilariously, everyone has seen Barbara’s infamous “ITS JUST A CAAARRRTOOONNNNN” comment which exists because a person asked Miles or Kerry how Jaune got Pyrrha’s gear after the Fall of Beacon.



Sienna had a good design and great potential (Monica Pre-KickVic even did a decent job with her performance) but she was just as much of a plot device like Pyrrha with less screentime, who got done in by edgy furry Kylo Ren and her death had absolutely none of an impact...Trying to be like GRRM, but it’s a worse type of shock value when the middleman could be cut and making Adam the leader from the start after Blake’s father stood down would be easier.

But then I remember this is Miles and Kerry.
I think you got it, man. Honestly, it's pretty cool to have a fellow RWBY fan on tis ride.
 
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Turtle Interference. In this case, Sean refused to share the convention with Peter and pushed Kamehacon to disinvite Peter as a condition of his appearance. He played himself, though, because he got caught and ended up having to go with Peter there anyway.

One Shane Newville (Unrelated to Shane the Shoeater) wrote that letter as pointed out by Random Internet Person, notably when he dropped that letter he came off as someone who overestimated his relationship with Monty and his major bias but like with Kathleen Zuelch and her Twitter meltdown where she effectively pissed napalm on the bridge between her and RT the developments since then led credence to their words about Cuck Teeth.

I will agree that the change of Pyrrha’s death was stupid, but figured that if they stuck to the original plan of Pyrrha’s death where Jaune was the cause of it due to protecting his untrained skinny ass the fandom would despise Miles’s self-insert fuckboy more than they already do;but fuck it the emotional weight would have mattered more, and explain how Jaune got her gear as to giving no explanation as how he has it now,

Hilariously, everyone has seen Barbara’s infamous “ITS JUST A CAAARRRTOOONNNNN” comment which exists because a person asked Miles or Kerry how Jaune got Pyrrha’s gear after the Fall of Beacon.



Sienna had a good design and great potential (Monica Pre-KickVic even did a decent job with her performance) but she was just as much of a plot device like Pyrrha with less screentime, who got done in by edgy furry Kylo Ren and her death had absolutely none of an impact...Trying to be like GRRM, but it’s a worse type of shock value when the middleman could be cut and making Adam the leader from the start after Blake’s father stood down would be easier.

But then I remember this is Miles and Kerry.

Messing up Pyrrha's death is one thing, but I refuse to accept the original plan for Torchwick was to kill him off unceremoniously during the s3 climax. S1 has him as the ultra smooth big bad, S2 has him act like everything's still going according to plan after being arrested and imprisoned, and then in S3 he just sits in prison waiting to be rescued and escapes long enough for an ironic one-liner before a random mob kills him off. I'm convinced they either didn't like Monty's plan for him or he didn't have any notes, so they had no idea what to do with him. But then I notice a lot of different s1-2 plot threads get dropped/collapsed or twist into something totally different when s3 hits. Originally I thought it was just a poorly written 'twist', but now I realize it was just new writers with a different vision. A bad one.

That said, Vic likes playing Qrow and he lost it directly due to Monica committing TI, so I'd support him getting the role back even if I don't support the show anymore.
 
On Twitter and to Anime News Network, voice actor Brett Weaver said that he prevented Vic Mignogna from sitting next to Mari Iijima during a Macross panel at Tekkoshocon in 2007.

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"Mari asked me to make sure that Vic wouldn't sit next to her. That's when I suggested she sit to my right and made sure that he would sit on my left."

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That said, Vic likes playing Qrow and he lost it directly due to Monica committing TI, so I'd support him getting the role back even if I don't support the show anymore.
I never really watched Dragon Ball (thus I never really hear Vic's Broly), never saw Ouran, only vaguely remember FMA, but I do watch RWBY, and Qrow is easily my favorite role of his.
 
On Twitter and to Anime News Network, Brett Weaver said that he prevented Vic Mignogna from sitting next to Mari Iijima during a Macross panel at Tekkoshocon in 2007.

"Mari asked me to make sure that Vic wouldn't sit next to her. That's when I suggested she sit to my right and made sure that he would sit on my left."

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Oh, so the whole convention didn't clap? hahaha
 
On Twitter and to Anime News Network, Brett Weaver said that he prevented Vic Mignogna from sitting next to Mari Iijima during a Macross panel at Tekkoshocon in 2007.

"Mari asked me to make sure that Vic wouldn't sit next to her. That's when I suggested she sit to my right and made sure that he would sit on my left."

Do these motherfuckers ever FAIL to lie?
 
I think you got it, man. Honestly, it's pretty cool to have a fellow RWBY fan on tis ride.

Why thank you, I might have joined the fandom somewhat late (Around when Volume 4 just started airing) and wasn't there for the letter but I'm fairly caught up with the workings of RWBY's fandom, M&K, Lettergate, and the CRWBY as of now.

Turtle Interference. In this case, Sean refused to share the convention with Peter and pushed Kamehacon to disinvite Peter as a condition of his appearance. He played himself, though, because he got caught and ended up having to go with Peter there anyway.



Messing up Pyrrha's death is one thing, but I refuse to accept the original plan for Torchwick was to kill him off unceremoniously during the s3 climax. S1 has him as the ultra smooth big bad, S2 has him act like everything's still going according to plan after being arrested and imprisoned, and then in S3 he just sits in prison waiting to be rescued and escapes long enough for an ironic one-liner before a random mob kills him off. I'm convinced they either didn't like Monty's plan for him or he didn't have any notes, so they had no idea what to do with him. But then I notice a lot of different s1-2 plot threads get dropped/collapsed or twist into something totally different when s3 hits. Originally I thought it was just a poorly written 'twist', but now I realize it was just new writers with a different vision. A bad one.

That said, Vic likes playing Qrow and he lost it directly due to Monica committing TI, so I'd support him getting the role back even if I don't support the show anymore.

Honestly, Vic is like permanently done with RT not only because of the TI lies commited by Monica and Matt Hullum's Cowardly Cuck ways of not knowing how to run a company (Let alone a goddamn lemonade stand), but you forget about Cuck Cuck Luna, Insane in the NPC Brain Brown, and Shane Holmberg's 80th Final Form:Shannon being involved in which without a doubt they'll raise a stink about Vic coming back even if he won (Along with some others who weren't vocal unlike those Three Stooges) because the Current Year is shit and Cuck Teeth is no exception.

On Twitter and to Anime News Network, voice actor Brett Weaver said that he prevented Vic Mignogna from sitting next to Mari Iijima during a Macross panel at Tekkoshocon in 2007.

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"Mari asked me to make sure that Vic wouldn't sit next to her. That's when I suggested she sit to my right and made sure that he would sit on my left."

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Welp, this faggot better HOPE that BHBH didn't bother getting in contact with Mari herself because like Manjaw this just ruins the credibility.

But somehow, Nick caused Ty to lose the case again dammit.
 
No I can tell you exactly what killed comics. Marvel and DC are ran by cheap penny pinching bastards* that's how you end up with the shit tier writers and artists * who didn't learn a damn thing from the 90s comic crash.

You are giving SJWs way too much credit here.

Cheap penny pinching bastards that replaced artists like Silvestri and writers like Claremont with who and what?

The creative teams that brought you Squirrell girl, Capt. Marvel, made Thor female, Capt. America a Nazi, turned the Xmen into literally fascist social justice warriors...need I go on???

SJWs replaced the talent at the big two. They brought their politics with them and the book sales track perfectly how they wrecked the industry. The penny pinchers hired them because they work cheap. But what happened then? See the milkshake girls for details.

Short version: They took over.

You're both right. SJWs work for peanuts. The more woke ones literally don't believe in money, being Marxists -- and daddy's credit card + network of other SJWs keep them going despite not making a fair wage. There's also woke types who work because they feel the activism and "fixing the world/industry/fandom/etc" is worth more than money.

That's why they were able to target comics, games journalism, games publishing (via CSR roles), news, etc. Those industries are all under a heavy money crunch and are damaged / dying. If those industries can hire some blue haired dipshit to work for a fraction of what they're worth, well... they're going to do it. But worse, once they do so, they drive the "fair" wage of everyone else down, which drives non-woke people out. The result is they get companies addicted to cheap SJW labor.

Once they get in, they gatekeep. It's a form of Entryism, a tactic of Maoists and other Communists for decades.
 
On Twitter and to Anime News Network, voice actor Brett Weaver said that he prevented Vic Mignogna from sitting next to Mari Iijima during a Macross panel at Tekkoshocon in 2007.

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"Mari asked me to make sure that Vic wouldn't sit next to her. That's when I suggested she sit to my right and made sure that he would sit on my left."

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Isn't this the same 2 faced idiot that praised Vic for so long and when KickVic finally came along, he went from never knowing Vic was a sexual predator to knowing he was a sexual predator all along because "at tekko...."?

Maybe he was the one creeping on Mari all along. 🤔
 
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