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[Lone MacReady]

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Ah shit! Here we go again!

Isn't her brother a pedo much like Rial's ex-BF or Marchi's old DxD harem pimp? HMMMM, I'm starting to notice a trend here. They accuse Vic of something, yet we continue to learn details about KickVic people having relationships with ACTUAL pedos on there side.
God, it's, my noggin be joggin is all...

 

[UY 690]

Isn't her brother a pedo much like Rial's ex-BF or Marchi's old DxD harem pimp? HMMMM, I'm starting to notice a trend here. They accuse Vic of something, yet we continue to learn details about KickVic people having relationships with ACTUAL pedos on there side.
God, it's, my noggin be joggin is all...
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Ironically enough she plays characters with horns on their heads and one of them is a God. Really makes you think if that is a fetish for her or she just like girls with horns to voice as.

 

[VZ 467]

A detail from the Nyahko story:

He paid for our food for that day at con and even gave my friend a small box filled with FMA merch and his CDS (Spoiler they were Bible reading in "Character voices" he had done).

When it comes to his discography, the earliest bible-reading CD I can find from him, is from 2009, everything else appear to be songs.
From this site it appears having been copyrighted in 2008. He was at CactusCon Jan 26 2007. So it couldn't have been made yet.

Gospel of John - Chapter 1 : Vic Mignogna : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

This is the first Chapter of John as recorded by Vic Mignogna.

archive.org

So if this is true, then Nyahko's chance of getting the CD, which does not have its first chapter produced or put on a cd until 2008, rather slim.
getting the feeling she just googled vic mignogna con history on google and threw a vague year in there.

I did go through comic cons in the Arizona state to see if his names popped up again before 2009, and it does not. So the story can not have the right year attributed to it. She states with great detail how old she was. Even quite a lot of details, especially for someone with brain damage and admittingly poor memory, and only is prone, as in her own word, to only remember mostly abuse and not the happy memories. With more questions and details being asked for, such as when, where, it gets more and more vague. She even remembered that she had just turned 16, or it was a little before her 16th bday. She was 75-80 lbs (claims at least) around that time, and states as an adult and I assume fully grown in height as 16 , 5' tall, or 5'ish. She remembers wearing a miniskirt, that he talked to her friend about a lot of details, and even what he gave them. That her friends moved soon after etc.etc.

Lets assume she was there in 2009 then, and that she hit her noggin a couple of months after. Though I am still curious about how she is placing her age into this when she can't remember the year. Was she 15-16 in 2006, 2007, or 2009, it kinda feels like something you'd know...... Afterall, if you're so 100% about your age as she is in the first post. Then you'd at least be able to give a solid year. So if the year she then reached was 2006 or 2007, as she believes, then in 2009, she wouldn't be 16 she'd be 18-19. And she would have been born in 1990 or 1991.

So either she completely missed the date by years, or, she was 18-19 when the story happened? *shrugs* we may never know.
I personally feel this sort of "story progression" reminds me of a special someone from the KV-crowd.
But it could also be that the person started to vague-out when they realized that the PULL thread was not the same as the TUMBLR hearsay site that basically hosted rumours and fanfiction as fact.

Webpage talking about Vic Raising money for this project in 2008, he appeared to have gone to them in early 2008 with a goal to have it recorded by summer 2008. The link provided at the website is dead, but I am archiving this. Thus it has effeciently excluded 2006 and 2007 as her 'possible dates'

Vic Mignogna's Gospel of John recording - CAA: Christian Anime Alliance

Archive

 

[ManateeHunter]

Goddamn. I love how when things slowed down it just gave kiwis more time to dig up facts against these bullshitters, there's been some damning finds the last few days.

See this is the difference with us and them. While KV laze around and smuckle about their TCPA ABSOLUTELY throwing out the case from court (spoiler: it ain't), bored autists take closer looks at the evidence involved, and… hooboy.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

See this is the difference with us and them. While KV laze around and smuckle about their TCPA ABSOLUTELY throwing out the case from court (spoiler: it ain't), bored autists take closer looks at the evidence involved, and… hooboy.

That or were at each others throats about why anime is weeb trash.

 

[Far Queue]

So either she completely missed the date by years, or, she was 18-19 when the story happened? *shrugs* we may never know.
I personally feel this sort of "story progression" reminds me of a special someone from the KV-crowd.
But it could also be that the person started to vague-out when they realized that the PULL thread was not the same as the TUMBLR hearsay site that basically hosted rumours and fanfiction as fact.

I'd looked into this a lot as well, and my take away is that the story was an intentional fabrication by the person who wrote it. It's got a lot of the same elements as other stories, but some things that are just such outright bullshit that they begger all belief.

When pressed on it for more details the poster conveniently has excuses to explain away all of them. Sure she has brain damage and her friends moved overseas never to be heard from again. I'm sure if she had originally claimed to have had a picture of it in an old scrapbook, that would have been tragically lost in the fire that burned down her house.

If the story seems familiar in some way it's because it's the same kind of stories people had already been telling and things about Vic that the PULL crowd already hated, only stitched together and rehashed for an audience that would just lap it all up.

 

[VZ 467]

I'd looked into this a lot as well, and my take away is that the story was an intentional fabrication by the person who wrote it. It's got a lot of the same elements as other stories, but some things that are just such outright bullshit that they begger all belief.

When pressed on it for more details the poster conveniently has excuses to explain away all of them. Sure she has brain damage and her friends moved overseas never to be heard from again. I'm sure if she had originally claimed to have had a picture of it in an old scrapbook, that would have been tragically lost in the fire that burned down her house.

If the story seems familiar in some way it's because it's the same kind of stories people had already been telling and things about Vic that the PULL crowd already hated, only stitched together and rehashed for an audience that would just lap it all up.

I am just debunking for my own sake, and for the sake of anyone who wants to help disprove the story. So that detail helps in that at least. I fully agree with you in it being a fabrication. Nothing in this story truly holds water, and raises a lot of questions. I like how they conventiantly disppeared around 27 of Feb (last log on date) and 18 Feb was the last post date I think? Right about when the fire started to get hot.

It could be why, but it is just reminded me a lot about Manjaw. Her way of doing stories. Something about the language and choice of words.
Initially it is presented with a lot of detail. Passion. Of course the entire lot tend to use similar verbage and phrasing. The keywords highlighted, emphasising underage status (then getting dates about age wrong, so much age wrong). The way they describe themselves phsyically is similar to some of Manjaws older stories.

Wonder when "They" went full blast on this tbh. I do really believe in a civil conspiracy surrounding this but I have no idea when or where it began. Or in what shadows, or how these people's lives would even intersect aside in the 'I hate Vic groups'

 

[Dopey Cunt]

I'd looked into this a lot as well, and my take away is that the story was an intentional fabrication by the person who wrote it. It's got a lot of the same elements as other stories, but some things that are just such outright bullshit that they begger all belief.

I mean I know that she's brain damaged and all but seems odd that she would literally copy pasta Illich Guardiola's 16 year old child bride story and then sprinkle a few, hastily googled stuff about Vic. I can't really pin point if she did that because her brain damage or if she was intentionally mixing two people together to frame Vic as being a much worse person while not bothering to research the story she was copy pasting.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

How much do you want to bet Kaytha Coker split with Illich because she discovered his...tendencies? This was before he got busted of course.

 

[Garm]

One Shane Newville (Unrelated to Shane the Shoeater) wrote that letter as pointed out by Random Internet Person, notably when he dropped that letter he came off as someone who overestimated his relationship with Monty and his major bias but like with Kathleen Zuelch and her Twitter meltdown where she effectively pissed napalm on the bridge between her and RT the developments since then led credence to their words about Cuck Teeth.

I will agree that the change of Pyrrha’s death was stupid, but figured that if they stuck to the original plan of Pyrrha’s death where Jaune was the cause of it due to protecting his untrained skinny ass the fandom would despise Miles’s self-insert fuckboy more than they already do;but fuck it the emotional weight would have mattered more, and explain how Jaune got her gear as to giving no explanation as how he has it now,

Hilariously, everyone has seen Barbara’s infamous “ITS JUST A CAAARRRTOOONNNNN” comment which exists because a person asked Miles or Kerry how Jaune got Pyrrha’s gear after the Fall of Beacon.



Sienna had a good design and great potential (Monica Pre-KickVic even did a decent job with her performance) but she was just as much of a plot device like Pyrrha with less screentime, who got done in by edgy furry Kylo Ren and her death had absolutely none of an impact...Trying to be like GRRM, but it’s a worse type of shock value when the middleman could be cut and making Adam the leader from the start after Blake’s father stood down would be easier.

But then I remember this is Miles and Kerry.

I discounted Shane's letter because during the V2 director commentary Monty Oum said "The Star Wars prequels sucked because no one told George Lucus "No.' I don't want to be like George Lucus. If my ideas suck I want to be told."

Shane then wrote a 36 page letter saying "IT'S NOT MONTY'S VISION!"

1. Sounds like Shane took MONTY'S word as gospel truth.
2. Shane was not the kind of man Monty would want writing RWBY.
3. Shane's letter turned Monty Oum into a George Lucus figure.

So Shane turned Monty into something he would have hated.

Another problem is that now I have some worries about the themes of RWBY.

The 80's D&D cartoon had a jerkass paladin whose job was to be wrong so the group would be right.

RWBY's main theme is "United we stand, divided we fall."

In V3, Blake and Yang lost to Adam because the fought desperately.
Ozpin died because he fought alone.
Pyrrha died fighting alone. (The scene as originally written would bring up questions about "should the strong help the weak.)
Maria Calabera lost her eyes because she fought alone.
Qrows independent huntsmen died because they fought alone.

RWBY seems to have some fascist undertones.

Now I have some qualms about what Miles political beliefs are. Miles, are Nahtzi's people who disagree with you? If there was an Austin Antifa group, would you be out LARPing in home made riot gear? Would you be throwing milkshakes at people?

 

[SkyclAdoBsErveR]

It always seems to be 'I don't know Vic very well, but Monica and Jaime are MY FRIENDS', almost like they're biased and not in any position to make a fair and balanced analysis of the situation. Especially when most of Vic's actual friends either say nothing or are out in support of him. "Monica would NEVER lie about this" of course you'd think that. She's your friend. Vic also thought 'Sabat would NEVER spread vile rumors about me behind my back' or 'Monica would NEVER make up a horrible story about me', because they were his friends, too.

If you're going to crater your popularity getting involved in this stupid scandal while providing stale old 'believe women' crap that stopped being compelling in February, at least come at it from the perspective of knowing both of the parties equally. Someone who's actually Vic's friend thinking he'd do this kind of thing is what people care about, and why Monica and Jaime's accusations were so damaging to his reputation. "I don't know Vic but--" means "Nothing I say about his actions matters".

Maybe instead of him just 'reacting' because his friend said something and he instantly believes them, he should have thought. If he did, he'd see that Jaime and Monica's accusations are laughable and the only proof that exists weighs against their stories being true.

But apparently he believes fully that Monica froze fought went along with Vic kissing throwing pushing her onto the bed and then Stan showed up as she covered her face and ran to him in distress and noticed she looked distressed and asked if she was okay and then forgot it immediately.

There's just a few too many people that are coming out to blow smoke up both Monica and Jamie's asses, but I guess with backsides that big, you'd need a fair few people to do that. Jokes aside, do you suppose it's possible that he's been strongarmed into saying that too? As it stands I find it kind of hard to believe that there isn't anyone at Funi that doesn't believe Monica and Jamie are lying and have secretly supported Vic, but I guess I'm just being optimistic there.

I don't care what side you're on, if you call Steins;Gate a bad dub, you're mistaken.

Come on, that dub is pretty shitty in terms of dialogue. I can't deny that all voices are done quite well, but I think J. Michael Tatum did a pretty bad job at writing the Steins;Gate screenplay. On a side note, why do all of these people have the first initial thing going on? J. Sean, R. Bruce, and J. Michael to name a few.

 

['Tis Dolan]

just wanna let you all know and I’m certain Beard, Vic and Rackets would agree.....

 

[Random Internet Person]

I discounted Shane's letter because during the V2 director commentary Monty Oum said "The Star Wars prequels sucked because no one told George Lucus "No.' I don't want to be like George Lucus. If my ideas suck I want to be told."

Shane then wrote a 36 page letter saying "IT'S NOT MONTY'S VISION!"

1. Sounds like Shane took MONTY'S word as gospel truth.
2. Shane was not the kind of man Monty would want writing RWBY.
3. Shane's letter turned Monty Oum into a George Lucus figure.

So Shane turned Monty into something he would have hated.

Another problem is that now I have some worries about the themes of RWBY.

The 80's D&D cartoon had a jerkass paladin whose job was to be wrong so the group would be right.

RWBY's main theme is "United we stand, divided we fall."

In V3, Blake and Yang lost to Adam because the fought desperately.
Ozpin died because he fought alone.
Pyrrha died fighting alone. (The scene as originally written would bring up questions about "should the strong help the weak.)
Maria Calabera lost her eyes because she fought alone.
Qrows independent huntsmen died because they fought alone.

RWBY seems to have some fascist undertones.

Now I have some qualms about what Miles political beliefs are. Miles, are Nahtzi's people who disagree with you? If there was an Austin Antifa group, would you be out LARPing in home made riot gear? Would you be throwing milkshakes at people?

I don’t think that Miles Luna is dumb enough to do something like glorify Antifa. Having said that, the next volume involves Atlas, and on Discord, many people I talk to are bracing for a Trump allegory somewhere.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Do these motherfuckers ever FAIL to lie?

I think they lie so much they dont even know what the truth is anymore.

 

[ItalianMobStripper]

I don’t think that Miles Luna is dumb enough to do something like glorify Antifa. Having said that, the next volume involves Atlas, and on Discord, many people I talk to are bracing for a Trump allegory somewhere.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the made Jacques Schnee the RWBY version of Hitler, but then they'd double down on telling not showing, just like the pussies they are

 

[VZ 467]

I'd looked into this a lot as well, and my take away is that the story was an intentional fabrication by the person who wrote it. It's got a lot of the same elements as other stories, but some things that are just such outright bullshit that they begger all belief.

When pressed on it for more details the poster conveniently has excuses to explain away all of them. Sure she has brain damage and her friends moved overseas never to be heard from again. I'm sure if she had originally claimed to have had a picture of it in an old scrapbook, that would have been tragically lost in the fire that burned down her house.

If the story seems familiar in some way it's because it's the same kind of stories people had already been telling and things about Vic that the PULL crowd already hated, only stitched together and rehashed for an audience that would just lap it all up.

Hold up! Hold up!!
My brain just caught up with me!!

Are you telling me this poster claimed to have a scrapbook!?

Sort of.....similar to how Manjawllo claimed to have a notebook, full of notes, from that guy? That she totally didn't write herself into a random notepad and take pictures of?

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

(just that feeling you know, just that feeling, doesn't prove a thing, but just that feeling)

 

[Garm]

I don’t think that Miles Luna is dumb enough to do something like glorify Antifa. Having said that, the next volume involves Atlas, and on Discord, many people I talk to are bracing for a Trump allegory somewhere.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the made Jacques Schnee the RWBY version of Hitler, but then they'd double down on telling not showing, just like the pussies they are

I think they were making Ironwood into a dictator. (Lionheart said the destruction of beacon brought out "some of James' more problematic qualities. Also Ironwood said "We're closing the borders. No one in, no one out without the council's permission. Jaques replied, "You mean, your permission.')

Also fun fact, the 2016 election evidently caused Rooster Teeth to re-write things because suddenly they became political. I'm guessing that's what happened to gen:LOCK.

 

[ZombiU&Me]

I discounted Shane's letter because during the V2 director commentary Monty Oum said "The Star Wars prequels sucked because no one told George Lucus "No.' I don't want to be like George Lucus. If my ideas suck I want to be told."

Shane then wrote a 36 page letter saying "IT'S NOT MONTY'S VISION!"

1. Sounds like Shane took MONTY'S word as gospel truth.
2. Shane was not the kind of man Monty would want writing RWBY.
3. Shane's letter turned Monty Oum into a George Lucus figure.

So Shane turned Monty into something he would have hated.

Another problem is that now I have some worries about the themes of RWBY.

The 80's D&D cartoon had a jerkass paladin whose job was to be wrong so the group would be right.

RWBY's main theme is "United we stand, divided we fall."

In V3, Blake and Yang lost to Adam because the fought desperately.
Ozpin died because he fought alone.
Pyrrha died fighting alone. (The scene as originally written would bring up questions about "should the strong help the weak.)
Maria Calabera lost her eyes because she fought alone.
Qrows independent huntsmen died because they fought alone.

RWBY seems to have some fascist undertones.

Now I have some qualms about what Miles political beliefs are. Miles, are Nahtzi's people who disagree with you? If there was an Austin Antifa group, would you be out LARPing in home made riot gear? Would you be throwing milkshakes at people?

I always blew his letter off because he came off as a tinfoil hat wearing nutcase who finally broke after losing his (alledged) best friend, got divorced and got fired from RT. In his own letter it made it hard for me to see him as anything beyond a salty cuck who seemed to REALLY like talking about Monty's wife who might have married him just to become a legal citizen.

 

[Garm]

I always blew his letter off because he came off as a tinfoil hat wearing nutcase who finally broke after losing his (alledged) best friend, got divorced and hot fired from RT. In his own letter it made it hard for me to see him as anything beyond a salty cuck who seemed to REALLY like talking about Monty's wife who might have married him just to become a legal citizen.

It would have been nice to have the context of the claims Shane made. From what I understand, Monty was perpetually sleep deprived and ran on coffee so anything he said may have been unreliable.

Like Shane claims that Monty was making a sub animation group that would report to him. That sounds like a bad plan. Was Monty pissed when he made that claim? Did Monty just work 28 hours and barely conscious?

Shane may have taken one off statements and wove a huge story about saving RWBY.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I think they were making Ironwood into a dictator. (Lionheart said the destruction of beacon brought out "some of James' more problematic qualities. Also Ironwood said "We're closing the borders. No one in, no one out without the council's permission. Jaques replied, "You mean, your permission.')

Also fun fact, the 2016 election evidently caused Rooster Teeth to re-write things because suddenly they became political. I'm guessing that's what happened to gen:LOCK.

Well, here’s the thing: RWBY has always had a black and white morality and they’ve seemed to stick to that path. This past Volume, they had this cartoony over the top chick named Cordovin (though imo that was kind the point). If she’s any indication, they’ll probably make a new character that might represent ICE and border agents separating kids from their parents, the left’s new pet crusade so Ironwood and Winter are the only good people in the military. As for Atlas in general, if they don’t demonize Trump, they’ll demonize the one percent like what happened in Volume 4. After all, we’re dealing with a fanbase that grew up through the financial crisis and Occupy Wall Street.