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This is just one of the many quotes, which I cannot be bothered to go back and forth with on the phone. The other paper looks solely at rectosigmoid vaginoplasty, and part of its findingd are cross-mentioned in the first anyway.

Indeed this is just one of the many quotes; that paper also says "Further disadvantages of intestinal vaginoplasty are the need for preoperative bowel preparation and additional abdominal surgery with intestinal anastomosis, which increases the risk of postoperative ileus. In addition, diversion colitis, as well as adenocarcinoma of neovagina, introital stenosis, mucocele and constipation have been reported [3941], although with a low incidence." And specify that bowel technique is best used, "for male to female transsexuals who have previously undergone total penectomy and orchiectomy, or for those with previously failed skin vaginoplasty and for patients with Mayer-Rokitansky syndrome, as was also reported by Lima et al. [36, 42]." EG when penile inversion is not enough or was unsuccessful, such as in the case of J Jennings.

I'm attempting to access a few additonal papers but Elsevier is being a fuckbag. More later.
 
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I honestly think you might be on to something there. Male camaraderie can be seen as enviable by women; it's an exclusive club of "the guys" that the ladies aren't allowed into. Sort of like the guys fantasizing about sleepovers and being "one of the girls."

As for the transwomen in general on this Reddit sub, they should take the advice of Willam Belli and other drag queens: Long bangs, heavy powder, head down, walk fast, no spook.
Honestly I will never understand why these women, if they want male comradery, don't just take up a predominantly male hobby. Go play Warhammer or learn to fix old cars or some shit. It's not hard to find male friends if these people are so interested in male comradery. The problem is they don't know how to just drink a beer and talk shop. Step one: stop being such a fucking crybaby and live your goddamned life. If you are genuinely interested in the things the people you want to hang out with are interested in, friends come naturally.
 
Honestly I will never understand why these women, if they want male comradery, don't just take up a predominantly male hobby. Go play Warhammer or learn to fix old cars or some shit. It's not hard to find male friends if these people are so interested in male comradery.
doesn't work. nobody likes a poser, and that's exactly what they would be.
also you can't develop any serious friendship with someone who forces you to walk on eggshells and treat them like a delicate flower all the time. that shit just ruins the fun, and it's what usually ends up happening when women force their way into male groups. better to just stick to your own and avoid all this drama.
and that's not even getting into the whole 'woman joining in with a bunch of thirsty, desperate single guys' situation. 9 out of 10 times it's just gonna be a bad time for everybody involved.
 
doesn't work. nobody likes a poser, and that's exactly what they would be.
also you can't develop any serious friendship with someone who forces you to walk on eggshells and treat them like a delicate flower all the time. that shit just ruins the fun, and it's what usually ends up happening when women force their way into male groups. better to just stick to your own and avoid all this drama.
and that's not even getting into the whole 'woman joining in with a bunch of thirsty, desperate single guys' situation. 9 out of 10 times it's just gonna be a bad time for everybody involved.
Haha yep entirely true. The reading between the lines takeaway from my comment ought to be that obviously these people have absolutely nothing in common with men in first place. 100% they can't seem to wrap thier heads around just sitting around and not crying like a little bitch about their "problems" all day long. Nobody likes that shit, male or female.
 
Ok, last document on the matter. This paper from this year documents methodology of penile inversion patients and states the following:


“Another alternative for tissue is an intestinal substitution. For example, a sigmoid neovagina has been described given its proximity to the pelvis (11,12). Other positives include its hairless nature and self-lubrication. However, intestinal neovagina has fallen out of favor for transgender women given the large amount of mucous production, morbidity associated with bowel harvest and chronic foul odor.”

In summary, penile inversion uses the dick and nutsack and typically doesn’t use bowels - especially not any more - because they are gross, wet, and smelly. This paper did briefly touch on using stomach lining but describes it as an ‘exciting alternative’ And doesn’t quantify.

This other paper also describes penile inversion technique but obviates discussion of additional donor sites:


Absent special cases it really does appear that penile inversion is exactly what it states: inside-out dicks.

Ok, now we can laugh at reddit again.
 
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Honestly I will never understand why these women, if they want male comradery, don't just take up a predominantly male hobby. Go play Warhammer or learn to fix old cars or some shit. It's not hard to find male friends if these people are so interested in male comradery. The problem is they don't know how to just drink a beer and talk shop. Step one: stop being such a fucking crybaby and live your goddamned life. If you are genuinely interested in the things the people you want to hang out with are interested in, friends come naturally.
Honestly, i get what you say and you're mostly right, but it's not that simple.
When you try to join a male group, they stop acting like they normally would, and you rarely get treated as one of them. Even in the best case scenarios, there will always be a guy or a couple of guys that will start acting weird around you, making things ankward or uncomfortable to some extent.
Unless you're completely, objectively ugly and horrifically unattractive, then yes, you basically become an honorary men.
 
Honestly, i get what you say and you're mostly right, but it's not that simple.
When you try to join a male group, they stop acting like they normally would, and you rarely get treated as one of them. Even in the best case scenarios, there will always be a guy or a couple of guys that will start acting weird around you, making things ankward or uncomfortable to some extent.
Unless you're completely, objectively ugly and horrifically unattractive, then yes, you basically become an honorary men.
Yes and no. Men and women are different, sure, but tbh, this stuff is often blown way out of proportion and both sides come into it with too many assumptions about what the other is going to be thinking/doing. If you put all that aside and just go do stuff you enjoy without being a fucking sped, you'll find it less of an issue than you think it will be. Sure, you're gonna find a few obnoxious gamer thot types or m'lady neckbeards but fewer than you might think. Honestly, if you go into something thinking you're gonna have a bad time, you probably will.

Sauce: personal experience.
 
Yes and no. Men and women are different, sure, but tbh, this stuff is often blown way out of proportion and both sides come into it with too many assumptions about what the other is going to be thinking/doing. If you put all that aside and just go do stuff you enjoy without being a fucking sped, you'll find it less of an issue than you think it will be. Sure, you're gonna find a few obnoxious gamer thot types or m'lady neckbeards but fewer than you might think. Honestly, if you go into something thinking you're gonna have a bad time, you probably will.

Sauce: personal experience.
Look, i have my fair share of personal experience too, since this is what i tried to do for most of my life.
You can manage to fit into a male group quite decently if you bother to learn how to properly do so, but still, you never get completely treated as an equal and that's kind of a shame. That's it.
 
nah that just gets rid of the attraction (and all the problems that come along with it)
they'll still not treat you like one of them though, cause experience has taught them that women are thin skinned, easily offended, and take everything personally.
basically you'll have to spend a very long time convincing them that you're not all that, until they'll actually let their guard down and open up to you.
I'm kind of thunkful here about your comment because tbh, if we were talking about a workplace (and I work in a very male dominated field) I probably could have written this comment word for word myself. But I'm fully disagreeing with this right now in the context of what I'm thinking of which is the realm of gaming and hobbies.

I wonder if it's because at a workplace, there is much more on the line - promotions, etc. and people in general, of whom men are included, tend to start breaking into factions and vying for power in a workplace which isn't the same as playing a game like 40k or helping someone fix an internal combustion engine for funsies. But my experience has been in these situations that occasionally you will run into some neckbeard dumbass but even the men think those guys are dumbasses and treat them as such. If you know how to swing a hammer or build and play a decent 2000pt list and then just you know, do that competently, you won't find it a big deal. The fears are more or less unfounded. One or two morons that no one likes anyway is not really an issue worth worrying about.

The thing is is that what makes this conversation relevant to this thread is that we're not talking about your average woman on the street here anyway. We're talking about people who swear up and down they have male brains in women's bodies and if that were true, well... you would be genuinely interested in learning to play Warhammer or learning to fix a car engine or literally anything that men tend to enjoy more. I don't see what the problem is that informs thier specific complaints.
 
nah that just gets rid of the attraction (and all the problems that come along with it)
they'll still not treat you like one of them though, cause experience has taught them that women are thin skinned, easily offended, and take everything personally.
basically you'll have to spend a very long time convincing them that you're not all that, until they'll actually let their guard down and open up to you.

That's not just a thing with men though. It's standard for any outsider attempting to join any group. Anyone of any sex is going to be wary of people they don't know who're trying to join their group. This has nothing to do with looks and purely to do with the human condition to form tight groups and consider people not part of those groups an other. This isn't just for hobbies either, it's for jobs as well. Everyone has a probation period with people and groups because some people just aren't going to jive. Almost nobody just strolls into a group, hobby, or new workplace and just fits as well as gets along with everyone. Humans don't work that way. You have to take time to form bonds while you learn, to 'find your tribe' within a group. Which is not a concept that is particular to one gender over the other.

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Look, i have my fair share of personal experience too, since this is what i tried to do for most of my life.
You can manage to fit into a male group quite decently if you bother to learn how to properly do so, but still, you never get completely treated as an equal and that's kind of a shame. That's it.

Powerlevel and boohoo. Personal Experience is anecdotal at best. Your personal experience doesn't negate sourdiesels, either.

'As an equal' LMAO. No one is ever going to fit 100% into a group because no one is ever going to be best buddies with everyone. It's human nature. Measuring your success at something by how you're treated 'equally' is setting yourself up for disappointment. There will always be people in a group who do something better then someone else and they will always be picked to do that, life isn't about equality- it's about whose best at whatever is being done. If you're not it, get better at whatever you're doing.
 
That's not just a thing with men though. It's standard for any outsider attempting to join any group. Anyone of any sex is going to be wary of people they don't know who're trying to join their group. This has nothing to do with looks and purely to do with the human condition to form tight groups and consider people not part of those groups an other. This isn't just for hobbies either, it's for jobs as well. Everyone has a probation period with people and groups because some people just aren't going to jive. Almost nobody just strolls into a group, hobby, or new workplace and just fits as well as gets along with everyone. Humans don't work that way. You have to take time to form bonds while you learn, to 'find your tribe' within a group. Which is not a concept that is particular to one gender over the other.



Powerlevel and boohoo. Personal Experience is anecdotal at best. Your personal experience doesn't negate sourdiesels, either.

'As an equal' LMAO. No one is ever going to fit 100% into a group because no one is ever going to be best buddies with everyone. It's human nature. Measuring your success at something by how you're treated 'equally' is setting yourself up for disappointment. There will always be people in a group who do something better then someone else and they will always be picked to do that, life isn't about equality- it's about whose best at whatever is being done. If you're not it, get better at whatever you're doing.
I don't know why you need to be so angry and aggressive about it.
Who the hell has powerleveled, i just stated that i had my share of experience too. Jesus.
I wasn't even whining. I was just trying to say that a woman is generally never going to be genuinely accepted in a man group.
Chill out dude.
 
That's not just a thing with men though. It's standard for any outsider attempting to join any group. Anyone of any sex is going to be wary of people they don't know who're trying to join their group. This has nothing to do with looks and purely to do with the human condition to form tight groups and consider people not part of those groups an other. This isn't just for hobbies either, it's for jobs as well. Everyone has a probation period with people and groups because some people just aren't going to jive. Almost nobody just strolls into a group, hobby, or new workplace and just fits as well as gets along with everyone. Humans don't work that way. You have to take time to form bonds while you learn, to 'find your tribe' within a group. Which is not a concept that is particular to one gender over the other.



Powerlevel and boohoo. Personal Experience is anecdotal at best. Your personal experience doesn't negate sourdiesels, either.

'As an equal' LMAO. No one is ever going to fit 100% into a group because no one is ever going to be best buddies with everyone. It's human nature. Measuring your success at something by how you're treated 'equally' is setting yourself up for disappointment. There will always be people in a group who do something better then someone else and they will always be picked to do that, life isn't about equality- it's about whose best at whatever is being done. If you're not it, get better at whatever you're doing.
This is a good way of putting it, imo. The problem is that both sexes feel some type of way about the opposite sex and while there do exist these stereotypical assholes here and there, sometimes people chalk social dynamics up to sex differences when they are in fact, just human nature.

But again, we aren't really talking about the average man or woman out there, were specifically talking about men and women that believe they literally are the opposite sex so it's kind of bonkers for them to claim to literally be men yet not be able to get along with men or even enjoy the things men tend to enjoy.
 
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Holy fuck this thread is 20 different kinds of exceptional today and for once I'm only responsible for like a third of it.

Lets laugh at this guy torpedoing his 20 year marriage.

Or this guy that got dumped on date 4 for admitting he had a penis.

His comment history is especially pathetic, and everybody dumps on him for lying by omission:

No pics of this guy tho, big shame or possible troll?

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I'm pretty sure if it's regular for the wife to sleep on couch there were marriage problems long before the trooning out came into the picture.

4th Date. X to Doubt. It's interesting they posted in askgaybros and mostly got lambasted for it while asktransgender is all about the feefees and I'm so sorry that happened to you hun.

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This comment made me chuckle. I'm sure OP desperately wishes they could be.
 
That's not just a thing with men though. It's standard for any outsider attempting to join any group. Anyone of any sex is going to be wary of people they don't know who're trying to join their group. This has nothing to do with looks and purely to do with the human condition to form tight groups and consider people not part of those groups an other. This isn't just for hobbies either, it's for jobs as well. Everyone has a probation period with people and groups because some people just aren't going to jive. Almost nobody just strolls into a group, hobby, or new workplace and just fits as well as gets along with everyone. Humans don't work that way. You have to take time to form bonds while you learn, to 'find your tribe' within a group. Which is not a concept that is particular to one gender over the other.

And there will be times when a shared group identity is particularly relevant, and becomes more activated as part of those people's self-concept. When that happens, anyone who doesn't share the identity will be treated as more of an out-group member than usual, even if they did feel like they'd passed that probationary period to find acceptance.

Harmless, low-level example: a group of born-and-raised native Texans is talking with one person who moved to the state ten years ago. If they discuss their favorite Futurama episodes, there probably won't be a noticeable in-group/out-group dynamic. But that (comparative) newcomer might feel left out if the topic moves to favorite King of the Hill episodes, because everyone else's shared native Texan identity suddenly starts to matter more as they start comparing Bobby's schools to theirs, etc.

In other words, even if a FtM felt like she was fitting in with a bunch of dudes in some circumstances, there will inevitably be times when the outsider status reveals itself. If you're a stable, secure individual, that's not a huge deal! But if you're the fragile sort who gets a lot of your perceived worth from specific sources of external validation and is vulnerable to self-concept threats, well...
 
And there will be times when a shared group identity is particularly relevant, and becomes more activated as part of those people's self-concept. When that happens, anyone who doesn't share the identity will be treated as more of an out-group member than usual, even if they did feel like they'd passed that probationary period to find acceptance.

Harmless, low-level example: a group of born-and-raised native Texans is talking with one person who moved to the state ten years ago. If they discuss their favorite Futurama episodes, there probably won't be a noticeable in-group/out-group dynamic. But that (comparative) newcomer might feel left out if the topic moves to favorite King of the Hill episodes, because everyone else's shared native Texan identity suddenly starts to matter more as they start comparing Bobby's schools to theirs, etc.

In other words, even if a FtM felt like she was fitting in with a bunch of dudes in some circumstances, there will inevitably be times when the outsider status reveals itself. If you're a stable, secure individual, that's not a huge deal! But if you're the fragile sort who gets a lot of your perceived worth from specific sources of external validation and is vulnerable to self-concept threats, well...

I mean if we're talking about troons the fact of the matter as this thread, Tranny news, Yaniv, etc etc have proven; they will rarely to never be accepted or fit in because there is something fundamentally wrong with them and other people pick up on it. We just had the discussion a few pages back of the FTM who was whining because she wasn't accepted as a man by her gay friend and his group and as a result they were awkward and didn't flirt with her because, as can be seen by anyone whose brain isn't rotted by trans rhetoric, she isn't a gay man.

She is a woman and, most importantly, she's not approaching as an outsider interested in learning - she was approaching as believing she said she was a gay man now and her word is law. Expecting unwavering acceptance of a status she gave herself. If you walk in like you own the place, declare everyone has to kowtow to your whims, obviously get upset when they don't, and bring drama with you, you will not be accepted by the group. If you're an egotistic asshole, as most troons tend to be, you will never gain acceptance because no one wants to deal with that shit.

Or this guy that got dumped on date 4 for admitting he had a penis.

His comment history is especially pathetic, and everybody dumps on him for lying by omission:

No pics of this guy tho, big shame or possible troll?

Sorry for double posting thread but-

I'm thinking troll Blink because if you go look at his comments- there is this absolutely gem;

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he would have an infinitely better time just being a man and trying to hook up with other gays than pretending to be a woman and trying to trick straight men into falling for him

but, all things considered, he must be pretty damn convincing if he managed to get 4 dates out of a straight dude without him noticing that something iss off about the 'girl' he's dating
Every time I hear a story about how they went on a few dates and he never knew but then we broke up when he found out I was trans, I hear: He knew I was trans the whole time but it took three or four dates for him to figure out I'm also batshit insane.
 
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