Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

For what it's worth, it's also one of Jim/Metokur's favorite games. He's mentioned that numerous times. I concur.

Best JRPG on the PSX, bar none, and one of the best JRPGs ever. Aping Evangelion aside, it's a bit too much like a Gainax production in that they had to rush the final act (second disc). Still great though.

Xenosaga was much of the original team trying to coyly (due to copyright) create prequels on the PS2, but I don't think they pulled it off nearly as well. I heard the third game was crap.

Xenosaga is a series I love but it is a rollercoaster. Though I have shit taste so interpret what I say with a grain of salt. You will go through every feeling as the games are flawed to the point it can be torture. Imagine listening to the same battle theme for every fight. No, I mean every fight. Though dealing with KV probably brings a high tolerance so it's nothing.

Anyways, Greg probably won't get what he deserves. I mean he already sank about as low as a person can get with only Lemoine ahead of him. At least Greg can say stuff without having the other person want to strangle them. I mean we do but for different reason. That awful voice. Where do the VAs find these people?
 
Not solely for everybody. It's also his success. Read the missive I posted from Emmett, and breath in the barely veiled jealousy. You even see and hear the green eyed monster in Monica's depo.

But yes, his religion definitely played some role.

Vic was correct in contractually negotiating time be set aside for him to do his religious stuff. Don't like it? Leave. It's my understanding he generally doesn't do it in the panel proper. It's an after event. Conventions have plenty of shit going on simultaneously.

Of course not everyone. But it shows some people were fucking with him completely unrelated to sexy rumors.
 
I totally get not wanting to do conventions, some people aren't people persons and for everyone who isn't Vic, the whole convention celebrity scene is super awkward. Who would want to sit behind a table for 8 hours like that? It's embarrassing.

Someone that actually cares about their job, about making their fans happy and understanding that conventions is an opportunity for them to connect with their fans who genuinely love them and their work and who want to put a face to the voices they adore so much. Honestly, if you have such a problem with it, there's a thousand other jobs where you're not required to sit there for X amount of hours if you hate your fans and other people so damn much.
 
Since there's a very real chance that this lawsuit could wreck Funimation beyond any hope of recovery, I've thought a lot about who could replace Funimation as the industry leader.

Right now the big companies in the anime industry in North America are Funimation, Viz Media, Aniplex, and Sentai Filmworks.

There's also the smaller companies of Media Blasters, Right Stuff, and Discotek, but they're pretty much irrelevant in this conversation for a variety of reasons.

Discotek Media doesn't make new dubs, they just re-license and redistribute old stuff that has gone out of print.

Media Blasters and Right Stuff are essentially living fossils from the old days, but they aren't major players anymore and haven't done much since the late 2000's. They just haven't gone under like a lot of their 90's contemporaries and mostly just skate by because they hold licenses to a lot of old properties that the other companies don't want anymore.

Funimation only became the biggest fish in the small pond entirely due to the fact that the Great Recession at the end of the 2000's hit the anime industry pretty hard and took down a lot of the old "big dogs" of the 1990's like ADV, Geneon, and Central Park Media and reduced several other old guard companies like Media Blasters and Right Stuff to becoming mere shells of what they once were. 4Kids survived the recession, but went into a severe decline a few years later.

Funimation, Viz, and Aniplex were really all that was left because most of them had the licenses to the anime that were in vogue at the time, chiefly the anime that aired on Adult Swim and the OG Toonami back in the day.

Viz has Naruto and Bleach, which were arguably the two most popular shows in the anime fandom during the late 2000's and they also had the license to InuYasha, which was one of the heavy-hitters in the mid-2000's.

Having the licenses to those shows are probably what saved Viz during that time. Since then they hit nostalgia paydirt by getting the license to Sailor Moon in 2014, so they'll be doing fine.

Funimation also produced a lot of the hit anime dubs that aired on Adult Swim such as Fullmetal Alchemist and bought the licenses to a lot of the Geneon dubs that were popular on Adult Swim, Toonami, and Sci-Fi Channel back in the day.

Funimation has a knack for grabbing onto the next big thing in the fandom, and most of the big flavor-of-the-month anime hits of the 2010's have been dubbed and distributed by Funimation such as Hetalia, Attack On Titan, My Hero Academia, and so on.

However, as we've found out, Funi is getting woke and it will probably make them go broke. As far as I know, none of the other major companies (Viz, Aniplex, Sentai) have blacklisted Vic nor have they made any comments on the issue.

The only ones who are involved in this mess are Funimation and Rooster Teeth.

Rooster Teeth is a bush league YouTuber company who are fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things, so it's likely that they'll collapse due to their own folly whether or not Vic decides to go after them in court.

But Funimation is being dragged into a legal battle that could easily end them.

Even if Vic doesn't bankrupt them in the lawsuit, the Kick Vic campaign has gone haywire and is becoming a nightmare for the company in terms of PR, and we haven't even gotten to the actual lawsuit yet.

It's quite possible that Sony will simply dissolve Funimation and tell the main architects of the Kick Vic debacle to take a hike, then merge all of Funimation's remaining valuable assets with Aniplex or some other replacement company.

Depending on how things play out in court and what Sony's main course of action is, it's very likely that Viz Media will be the new top dog in the anime distribution industry or Aniplex will do to Funimation what Funi did to a lot of the old Geneon licenses when they went under.
 
I'm sure everyone is enjoying the relative calm before the storm, but @EriMin has shared another con story on Twitter.

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They say never meet your heroes, but imagine a job that's essentially that. Maybe that sounds a little depressing, but I think that pales in comparison to being so great at something that people you've never met before who are delighted by your work want to pay you money to do that thing and it only fills you with disgust.
Can't help but think of Sabat when I read this, he fucking hates having to say the "it's over 9000!" line. But there's probably loads of VAs who think their fans are gross and hate having to repeat popular lines to fans.
 
Can't help but think of Sabat when I read this, he fucking hates having to say the "it's over 9000!" line. But there's probably loads of VAs who think their fans are gross and hate having to repeat popular lines to fans.

I'm thinking Sabat, too. What a snake.
It fits in perfectly with the experience that one YouTuber [ForneverWorld] had with him on the red carpet premiere of Dragon Ball Z: Ressurection F.

EDIT: Correcting myself here. I go into more details in my next post about this subject.
 
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The interesting thing is that,if you turn this towards the KV crowd, you will find that a few of them have a far more structured predatory profile than Vic would ever have.
Which is a little disturbing.

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If you however want to look into it and try your nogging at it I recommend following:

"Jennifer" Lynn Hunt. Has an own thread.
Shane Holmberg, also has a thread here.
HanLeia: also has an own thread.

There are also others I would never let a child or teen , be near or alone with, but there are no evidence available on them. Just my gut feeling. And that counts for nothing more than paranoia.

Would any of us really be surprised to find out some of the major KV players are part of some shady sex stuff?
I know nothings been confirmed, but I'm suspicious of Sean Schemmle or whatever his name is.
And some of the others raise some red flags as well.
 
Would any of us really be surprised to find out some of the major KV players are part of some shady sex stuff?
I know nothings been confirmed, but I'm suspicious of Sean Schemmle or whatever his name is.
And some of the others raise some red flags as well.

Not really.
Manjaw aka Lynn Hunt has already admitted to that her 'room-mate' had Childporn on the computer. She like a normal person, who shared computers with him. Did not report him. Instead they were good enough friends that he let her occasionally delete his underage/rape/cp to replace with anime. Which makes me really question what sort of relationship those two had. ESPECIALLY since she worked at cons. Where you have easy access to children and teens + alcohol and partying.

She also openly posted on anime forums that looking at underage girls in skimpy outfits was one of the plusses of working there. No one there seemed to really think all of this was odd. During a con she openly tongue-kissed two minors on stage. Something she admitted to being unrehearsed and spur of the moment thing. No consent. (she insist they were 17, conveniently remembered the ages after someone posted about 17 being the legal age in Illinois or something at the time.) They do not look 17. They are most likely between 14-15.

Shane refuses to tell us how old his wife was when she met him. In one post in here he said '19 or something'.
Which is a weak answer. Shane also was a con voulenteer-worker. Easy access to teeens and children. Again, also alcohol n all that crap.
He also admitted to some sort of sexual escapades 'back in his days' during cons so.....*shudder*
He is also a total gent with his wife, who he has posted explicity about on twitter, in gross pervy ways. It's cringeworthy.

Han-leia. This one is a clusterfuck I haven't truly looked into nor do I want to. I do remember shota being brought up with her, which is just....gross.

In case you did not know any of this until now; Welcome to the absolute shitshow of people that is KickVic
 
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For what it's worth, it's also one of Jim/Metokur's favorite games. He's mentioned that numerous times. I concur.

Best JRPG on the PSX, bar none, and one of the best JRPGs ever. Aping Evangelion aside, it's a bit too much like a Gainax production in that they had to rush the final act (second disc). Still great though.

Xenosaga was much of the original team trying to coyly (due to copyright) create prequels on the PS2, but I don't think they pulled it off nearly as well. I heard the third game was crap too.



And meanwhile, KickVic is worried Nick's kids will grow up to be "alt-right."

To quote Nick, they're broken people. They have no sense of responsibility in life, family, or what things really matter. Virtue signaling is fleeting, and the next day they'll just as soon nail you to the cross.

Regardless of how the lawsuit plays out, I don't think Greg will find much success in life. He'll get his. One day. Count on it.
Third game was good. It wrapped up the story 'satisfactorily' but feels crammed. The second game (my favorite) was the one most people disliked the most. What it was, was very story heavy which put a lot of people off.

If you take all three Sagas as a single unit, it's more a playable movie than a traditional RPG game like Zelda, FF or Phntasy Star, which is why I think it elicits the love/hate response in a lot of people. If anything, I would say to people, If you played it when you were a kid or younger, try it again through adult eyes. You will find a lot of what makes it great you may have missed.

Didn't the writing team get switched out at a certain point? Also wasn't it supposed to be 6 games total?

I will have to dig out the PS2 to play these again. I still have a Star Ocean game to finish.
 
Anyways, Greg probably won't get what he deserves.

He will.

And I can even prognosticate how: He'll be metooed. Just like EvilLore. Or, in the alternative, commit some other social justice pseudo faux pas, and it'll be like blood in the water.

What these morons don't seem to grasp is they are creating a monster. Virtue signaling is smoke and mirrors to try and get ahead in life when raw talent eludes them. These people are often not as virtuous as their signaling.

I can pretty much guarantee it'll happen to Shane too. Probably earlier, and especially if he's gonna keep riding the con circuit for self agrandizement. There is something off about Shane, and I'm not just referring to his rampant stupidity.

Rational people aren't gonna defeat the SJW menace. The SJW menace is going to hobble itself through cannibalism, and rational people will simply fill the vacuum with the realization SJWs are a destructive force.

If I'm alive in 5 or so years, and I'm wrong, feel free to come back here and point that out.
 
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Didn't the writing team get switched out at a certain point? Also wasn't it supposed to be 6 games total?

I will have to dig out the PS2 to play these again. I still have a Star Ocean game to finish.

IIRC the head guy was always a part of it but the team members varied. Yes Gears was supposed to be 6 and Saga was supposed to be, I think 5, but it was ultimately the same basic story. The difference was Saga being 'reimagined' due to Square owning Gears. The lore is, with a few key differences, pretty much the same.

If I had Fuck You money, I'd be funding a 6 game arc the way it was originally envisioned.
 
Look at this fucking clown

Attacking this women saying he's glad she is a victim of what he believes to be a groomed child of pedophilia

What an absolute embarrassment to humanity

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Since there's a very real chance that this lawsuit could wreck Funimation beyond any hope of recovery, I've thought a lot about who could replace Funimation as the industry leader.

Right now the big companies in the anime industry in North America are Funimation, Viz Media, Aniplex, and Sentai Filmworks.

There's also the smaller companies of Media Blasters, Right Stuff, and Discotek, but they're pretty much irrelevant in this conversation for a variety of reasons.

Discotek Media doesn't make new dubs, they just re-license and redistribute old stuff that has gone out of print.

Media Blasters and Right Stuff are essentially living fossils from the old days, but they aren't major players anymore and haven't done much since the late 2000's. They just haven't gone under like a lot of their 90's contemporaries and mostly just skate by because they hold licenses to a lot of old properties that the other companies don't want anymore.

Funimation only became the biggest fish in the small pond entirely due to the fact that the Great Recession at the end of the 2000's hit the anime industry pretty hard and took down a lot of the old "big dogs" of the 1990's like ADV, Geneon, and Central Park Media and reduced several other old guard companies like Media Blasters and Right Stuff to becoming mere shells of what they once were. 4Kids survived the recession, but went into a severe decline a few years later.

Funimation, Viz, and Aniplex were really all that was left because most of them had the licenses to the anime that were in vogue at the time, chiefly the anime that aired on Adult Swim and the OG Toonami back in the day.

Viz has Naruto and Bleach, which were arguably the two most popular shows in the anime fandom during the late 2000's and they also had the license to InuYasha, which was one of the heavy-hitters in the mid-2000's.

Having the licenses to those shows are probably what saved Viz during that time. Since then they hit nostalgia paydirt by getting the license to Sailor Moon in 2014, so they'll be doing fine.

Funimation also produced a lot of the hit anime dubs that aired on Adult Swim such as Fullmetal Alchemist and bought the licenses to a lot of the Geneon dubs that were popular on Adult Swim, Toonami, and Sci-Fi Channel back in the day.

Funimation has a knack for grabbing onto the next big thing in the fandom, and most of the big flavor-of-the-month anime hits of the 2010's have been dubbed and distributed by Funimation such as Hetalia, Attack On Titan, My Hero Academia, and so on.

However, as we've found out, Funi is getting woke and it will probably make them go broke. As far as I know, none of the other major companies (Viz, Aniplex, Sentai) have blacklisted Vic nor have they made any comments on the issue.

The only ones who are involved in this mess are Funimation and Rooster Teeth.

Rooster Teeth is a bush league YouTuber company who are fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things, so it's likely that they'll collapse due to their own folly whether or not Vic decides to go after them in court.

But Funimation is being dragged into a legal battle that could easily end them.

Even if Vic doesn't bankrupt them in the lawsuit, the Kick Vic campaign has gone haywire and is becoming a nightmare for the company in terms of PR, and we haven't even gotten to the actual lawsuit yet.

It's quite possible that Sony will simply dissolve Funimation and tell the main architects of the Kick Vic debacle to take a hike, then merge all of Funimation's remaining valuable assets with Aniplex or some other replacement company.

Depending on how things play out in court and what Sony's main course of action is, it's very likely that Viz Media will be the new top dog in the anime distribution industry or Aniplex will do to Funimation what Funi did to a lot of the old Geneon licenses when they went under.

Rooster Teeth seems like it is in the process of being absorbed by CrunchyRoll, or their staff will overlap so much that it won't matter.

CrunchyRoll and RT are owned by Warner Media which has Cartoon Network and Toonami.

I think if you combine those companies together you might have a decent competitor for replacing Funimation. Cartoon Network and CrunchyRoll having contacts, RT having production capabilities.

Someone who has better knowledge of the anime industry will probably correct me.
 
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Okay, I legit have no fucking clue what this sped is on about. What pay day? What are they talking about? Nobody that supports Vic is doing it because they expect something in return. They do it because it's the right thing to do and because we have a justice system that should fucking be used the way it's meant to be used. I don't even need to refute the second sentence. There's already plenty of video footage and evidence that proves otherwise that's floating around everywhere. Maybe if they took 2 seconds to do research instead of parroting a bunch of liars and blatantly disregarding the truth, they might finally say something that isn't a goddamn lie.
Look at this fucking clown

Attacking this women saying he's glad she is a victim of what he believes to be a groomed child of pedophilia

What an absolute embarrassment to humanity

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No one was groomed, what?? She was fucking 18. He's completely ignoring that she was of legal age when this event happened. No one is being groomed. She willingly paid money to-you know what I'm not even going to finish lmao because I will actually get angry and Douchette is absolutely not worth my annoyance.
 
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Okay, I legit have no fucking clue what this sped is on about. What pay day? What are they talking about? Nobody that supports Vic is doing it because they expect something in return. They do it because it's the right thing to do and because we have a justice system that should fucking be used the way it's meant to be used. I don't even need to refute the second sentence. There's already plenty of video footage and evidence that proves otherwise that's floating around everywhere. Maybe if they took 2 seconds to do research instead of parroting a bunch of liars and blatantly disregarding the truth, they might finally say something that isn't a goddamn lie.

They decided all on their own that this is a money making scheme. Completely sans evidence. So since this is their chosen paradigm, everyone on the opposing side is just going after money at the expense of wahmens.
 
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