Manosphere Theodore "Teddy" Beale / Vox Day / Vox Popoli / Teddy Spaghetti - pretentious self-imporant Ultra-Right Science Fiction writer and publisher, jealous of Jordan Peterson.

The idea of a single uniting identity that carries the same connotation regardless of ethnicity, creed, or social class is a fundamentally universalist and egalitarian concept that is at the root of most classical liberal writers. I'm sorry you aren't familiar with the philosophical roots of the world you live in: clearly, whoever orchestrated your education has failed you.
 
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The idea of a single uniting identity that carries the same connotation regardless of ethnicity, creed, or social class is a fundamentally universalist and egalitarian concept that is at the root of most classical liberal writers. I'm sorry you aren't familiar with the philosophical roots of the world you live in: clearly, whoever orchestrated your education has failed you.
So the Roman Emperors were classical liberals?
 
I will one hundred percent bite that bullet, since most of the foundations of classical liberalism hold their roots in the political philosophy of the Roman and Greek Republics.
Plus, for the sake of this discussion, I believe most people in the alt-right thought-sphere believe the reason Rome collapsed was because it assimilated "barbarians" (which they somehow mentally treat as a separate category from their European high-trust societal ancestry).
 
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And you thought the JBP drinking game was finished.

Will this sperg ever quit reeeeing angrily about how someone else is more popular than he is?

Exactly. Vox's constant sperging about conservatives who are more successful than him reeks of jealousy and unwashed penis.

It's past being beta or gamma and running out of Greek alphabet letters, in some kind of omega minus territory.

Vox is a huge cuck.
 
Personally I think he’s a lolcow because not only am a not a right winger with no desire to live in a Christian ethnostate, he’s an arrogant fucker who doesn’t make good faith argument and every argument that comes out of his dumb clock holster makes me want to punch his gamma nose off

I'd rather live in a culturally nominally Christian non-Theocratic ethnostate than an SJWist anarchic economic zone. The latter is what we're devolving into. The former is what we'll eventually become.

There's also the fact that he seems to spend most of his time flying into a frothing rage at other right-wingers who are more successful than him, and the fact that there's basically no difference between his "gamma" and "sigma" other than that he really can't bear the fact that he's a "gamma" so he had to make up a difference (I COULD be an Alpha, but I don't WANT to, so there)

The Sigma category makes me cringe every time I read it. I can't blame you.

Vox only shits on "right wingers" who damage our cause, are dishonest, and betray us to the Left. He doesn't go after right wingers who are more successful than him like Tucker Carlson or Ann Coulter so I don't think he's jealous.

But that's why you'll fail, why everything goes slippery slope - you have no measurable goal or end-state. Ethnic homogeneity had the same issue as the coastline paradox - especially with humans able to interbreed, how do you define where one ethnic ends and another begins? Without a clear definition, you will have purity spirals and witch trials.

No manmade category has 100% clear boundaries 100% of the time whether it be nation, borders, laws, etc. That doesn't mean they're irrelevant or that they can be done away with. We aren't being prescriptive. We're just observing reality and adjusting the state accordingly.

Vox's definition of The West is taken from Jamshid Benham: "Greek philosophy, Roman statecraft, and Christian ecclesiasticism". It's a much better definition of The West than the vague Neoliberal definition that relies on vague "values" that radically change every generation. Neoliberal values have failed us and lead to the multicultural, hedonistic hellscape we see today.

The US was a white ethnostate from the First Acts of Congress in 1790 to the Hart-Sellers Act of 1965. We knew what a White American was then and still do now. Whites were 85-90% of the country at this time. American Indians became citizens in 1917, Black Americans became citizens in 1865 and got full voting rights in 1965. That and the opening of our borders to non-whites with Hart-Sellers started our country down the path to destruction. This is just the beginning of our unraveling. Paper Nationalism has failed.

We already have the purity spirals and with trials you speak of. We'll have even more if we don't act.

Are Sicilians, Venetians, Genoans, Milanese, and Romans the same ethnicity? How about English, Welsh, Scottish, and Irish? Parisians and the Basque? Punjabis, Parsis, Bengali, or Dogra? Hell, in the US the South and Midwest alone have distinctly different culinary, folkloristic, historical, cultural, and political differences that are arguably more severe than, say, people who live in Irun vs. Erreka. If you want to argue by what "historically worked", history shows that the nation-state is a liberal, universalist, and egalitarian concept created by the (((merchant class))) and academics to dissolve identities, encourage interbreeding between the races, and make it easier for them to accumulate wealth.

They're currently very different types of Italian they may evolve into separate nations. The UK peoples you mentioned are different nations. French and Basque are very much different nations. All of those Indian peoples are nations (Except Dogra, not familiar with them). South and Midwest US are different regions, they might become different nations over centuries similar to how Romans became Italians, French, Spaniards, etc. I'm not familiar with Irun and Erreka.

Liberalism only worked with a large degree of ethnic homogeneity. But it eventually devolved into Marxism and multiculturalism. We have to reject Liberalism, Marxism, and Multiculturalism. They all failed us. We have to return to Nationalism.

Also "Classical Liberalism" isn't "Classic". It's based on civic nationalist ideas popularized during the 1960's. It's more "Neoliberalism".

VoxDay is a lolcow not because he thinks this or that, it's more matter of character/style.
For what it is worth he could be a socialist or raging atheist, idc, but the most important qualities of lolcow are: inflated sense of self-importance and lack of self-awareness.
In this regard VoxDay is a pure lolcow.

That makes sense. By own Vox's admission yesterday he was unlikeable by most people (Initially). As a somewhat of a fan of his I can see how he's arrogant about certain things. I chop that up to him being unsociable. At least he can back most of us bragging up though.
 
No manmade category has 100% clear boundaries 100% of the time whether it be nation, borders, laws, etc. That doesn't mean they're irrelevant or that they can be done away with. We aren't being prescriptive. We're just observing reality and adjusting the state accordingly.

So what's wrong with the Mexicans then? It's not like the boundaries of America are 100% clear... Like it's marked by a big river or something.

I'm also 99% sure private property itself is based upon a 100% clear boundary of what is mine vs what is not mine.

Also the law is exactly predicated on 100% clear boundaries - that's literally the idea of "rule of law" a person can ascertain whether they are guilty or not guilty of something.

Vox's definition of The West is taken from Jamshid Benham: "Greek philosophy, Roman statecraft, and Christian ecclesiasticism". It's a much better definition of The West than the vague Neoliberal definition that relies on vague "values" that radically change every generation. Neoliberal values have failed us and lead to the multicultural, hedonistic hellscape we see today.
What's that? The foundation of the civilization is a religion who's core tenant is that anybody can join regardless of their family history, nation of birth, or race?

Gee, how can the West have strayed so far from one of its founding principles...

What's hilarious is that you think your system is going to avoid leading to its own hellscape.

The US was a white ethnostate from the First Acts of Congress in 1790 to the Hart-Sellers Act of 1965. We knew what a White American was then and still do now. Whites were 85-90% of the country at this time. American Indians became citizens in 1917, Black Americans became citizens in 1865 and got full voting rights in 1965. That and the opening of our borders to non-whites with Hart-Sellers started our country down the path to destruction. This is just the beginning of our unraveling. Paper Nationalism has failed.

Yeah, not like any kind of technology has come about since then which would make this more challenging...

So are you going off parentage or just the Family guy shade test? If a guy tans well, you tossing him out as not white? What about Obama, does he get to stay or are you just tossing out half of him?

Also many American Indians (and blacks) were citizens of the USA before 1917 and 1865.

And how are you defining "has failed"? America is still out performing the world in economics and military, I think any nation on the planet would love be "failing" as bad as America is right now.

We already have the purity spirals and with trials you speak of. We'll have even more if we don't act.


Brilliant! There's no way that can possibly go wrong -- hang on, I seem to have overloaded my sarcasm circuit.
 
They're currently very different types of Italian they may evolve into separate nations. The UK peoples you mentioned are different nations. French and Basque are very much different nations. All of those Indian peoples are nations (Except Dogra, not familiar with them). South and Midwest US are different regions, they might become different nations over centuries similar to how Romans became Italians, French, Spaniards, etc. I'm not familiar with Irun and Erreka.

Liberalism only worked with a large degree of ethnic homogeneity. But it eventually devolved into Marxism and multiculturalism. We have to reject Liberalism, Marxism, and Multiculturalism. They all failed us. We have to return to Nationalism.

Also "Classical Liberalism" isn't "Classic". It's based on civic nationalist ideas popularized during the 1960's. It's more "Neoliberalism".
Okay, so honestly, for someone who calls themselves "alt-right", you have a shocking degree of ignorance of basic history:
- Milanese, Genoans, etc. aren't going to "evolve" into separate nations, they "evolved" into Italians. The Italian identity as a unified ethnic group is the result of liberalist revolutionaries that believed that a unified Italy was needed for technological and cultural modernization to be successful. The Italian identity is the result of the "liberalist, multiculturalist" project you avow, as is virtually every national identity in Western Europe.
-Irun and Erreka are two cities located on opposite riverbanks. Irun is Spanish and Erreka is French.
- So, you believe that the English should expel all of the Welsh back to Wales, the Scottish to Scotland, and that everyone should live inside the neat little geographic boxes, yeah? A global Balkans? I would suggest looking at the history of Eastern Europe to see how well that will work on any level.
-...Classical liberalism is based on the philosophies of the 16th-17th century writers that influenced the Founding Fathers, including Rousseau and Locke. The fact that you think that classical liberalism sprung from Zeus's brow in the 60's is honestly baffling to me.
In addition, you say "multiculturalism" and "civic nationalism" like they are bad things, but you have yet to show your work. China, India, the Ottomans, the Romans, the English- hell, the Babylonians, the oldest empire on record, practiced the incorporation of foreign groups into their greater structure.
In addition, approximately every nation that doesn't act like the Sentinalese have accepted immigrants. You talk about your ideas like they are common wisdom, but in fact they directly break with the tradition of the past 2000+ years.
 
So what's wrong with the Mexicans then? It's not like the boundaries of America are 100% clear... Like it's marked by a big river or something.

How exactly do you decide where one river bank of the Rio Grande ends and the other begins? Rivers can change over time. Do we use the old measurements of the river or the changed measurements? Serbia and Croatia have a border dispute over this question.

I'm also 99% sure private property itself is based upon a 100% clear boundary of what is mine vs what is not mine.

Also the law is exactly predicated on 100% clear boundaries - that's literally the idea of "rule of law" a person can ascertain whether they are guilty or not guilty of something.

How exactly do you determine mine and not mine? Each country, province, and city have different laws on this that change based on new legislation. Some cases are so unclear that they even need caselaw to set legal precedents since the law isn't 100% clear 100% of the time.

What's that? The foundation of the civilization is a religion who's core tenant is that anybody can join regardless of their family history, nation of birth, or race?

You can join the religion. That doesn't mean you can join any nation or cross any border you want. The Bible even mentions nation in a similar way to family. You can have separate households for families and separate countries for nations. Neither contradict The Bible.


What's hilarious is that you think your system is going to avoid leading to its own hellscape.

It worked from 1790 to 1965.

Yeah, not like any kind of technology has come about since then which would make this more challenging...

People don't just drive to the border and hop over. They need jobs, public services, and welfare on the other side. We could get rid of virtually all illegal migrants right now if our leaders weren't corrupt. Eisenhower was able to deport 1 million illegals with "Operation Wetback". Require e-verify, restrict public services to citizens, beef up border security, make deportation an administrative matter like most countries do, and crack down on NGO's busing illegals here. The problem would be 99% solved in a matter of months.

So are you going off parentage or just the Family guy shade test? If a guy tans well, you tossing him out as not white? What about Obama, does he get to stay or are you just tossing out half of him?

White people tanning aren't considered nonwhite. Obama isn't considered white. You and I both know what white is. Police use racial descriptions to find suspects for a reason. With just a glance you can tell what race people are most of the time. America was a white ethnostate from 1790 to 1965. Rare, unclear cases of who was white wasn't a big challenge.

Also many American Indians (and blacks) were citizens of the USA before 1917 and 1865.

Black people weren't considered citizens until the 14th Amendment was passed (Illegally and at gunpoint). Dredd Scott explicitly denied both freed and enslaved blacks from being citizens:


I was wrong about the 1917 thing. It was 1924:


And how are you defining "has failed"? America is still out performing the world in economics and military, I think any nation on the planet would love be "failing" as bad as America is right now.

Most countries aren't predominantly East Asian or White. So they're failing.

America is worse now than it was several decades ago. Our military is being harmed by political correctness and diversity. Our wages are stagnant as cost of living soars thanks in part to immigrants flooding the labor pool and driving up housing prices.

Look at California. Whites are now a minority there. It's becoming like a 3rd World country. Diseases are spreading. Police are very corrupt. Cost of living is soaring and the divide between rich and poor is massive. The entire country will look like California in the next couple of decades.


Brilliant! There's no way that can possibly go wrong -- hang on, I seem to have overloaded my sarcasm circuit.

If Hart-Seller wasn't passed and we would still be predominantly white. We wouldn't have anywhere near as many problems as we do now thanks to "diversity".

Okay, so honestly, for someone who calls themselves "alt-right", you have a shocking degree of ignorance of basic history:
- Milanese, Genoans, etc. aren't going to "evolve" into separate nations, they "evolved" into Italians. The Italian identity as a unified ethnic group is the result of liberalist revolutionaries that believed that a unified Italy was needed for technological and cultural modernization to be successful. The Italian identity is the result of the "liberalist, multiculturalist" project you avow, as is virtually every national identity in Western Europe.

The concept of an Italian ethnic group predated the state of Italy by decades. They didn't evolve into Italians. They evolved from Latins to Italians.

-Irun and Erreka are two cities located on opposite riverbanks. Irun is Spanish and Erreka is French.

Ok.

- So, you believe that the English should expel all of the Welsh back to Wales, the Scottish to Scotland, and that everyone should live inside the neat little geographic boxes, yeah? A global Balkans? I would suggest looking at the history of Eastern Europe to see how well that will work on any level.

The Welsh, English, Scottish, etc. already have a large degree of autonomy within their own nations. Plus they're not as different from each other as the average white person is from the average black person. So it's possible that they could stay within the UK. Scotland may seek independence again though.

-...Classical liberalism is based on the philosophies of the 16th-17th century writers that influenced the Founding Fathers, including Rousseau and Locke. The fact that you think that classical liberalism sprung from Zeus's brow in the 60's is honestly baffling to me.

In addition, approximately every nation that doesn't act like the Sentinalese have accepted immigrants. You talk about your ideas like they are common wisdom, but in fact they directly break with the tradition of the past 2000+ years.


Classical Liberalism wasn't explicitly against Nationalism. The Founding Fathers were Nationalists. The addition of Civic Nationalism to the official Classical Liberal canon occurred in the Mid 1900's. The Classical Liberals of Enlightenment weren't like the Neoliberals today. They lived in an era where women weren't given equal rights, homosexuality was criminalized, and pornography was illegal. Neoliberals today would unanimously and fervently defend all of those ideas. But Classical Liberals didn't. Modern day "Classical Liberals" are best described as "Neoliberals" similar to how there is a distinction between oldschool "Classical Marxists" and SJW "neo-Marxists" of today.

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In addition, you say "multiculturalism" and "civic nationalism" like they are bad things, but you have yet to show your work. China, India, the Ottomans, the Romans, the English- hell, the Babylonians, the oldest empire on record, practiced the incorporation of foreign groups into their greater structure.

Read my text above about California.

China has been supermajority Han Chinese throughout its history. Chinese who have lived in other countries are considered "Overseas Chinese". But a white American born and raised there is not considered Chinese. China also bans movies for featuring Asian-NonAsian relationships. China today and historically is an implicit ethnostate. Chinese identity is tied to Biological Nationalism. Terms like African-Chinese and Latino-Chinese make no sense unless the person is biracial.

India is very ethnically diverse, but not really all that racially diverse. But even with that amount of diversity there has been problems. There have been many ethnic conflicts and India has a highly federalized system that often times is hard to function. I could only imagine the nightmare of having Desi, Blacks, and Latinos thrown into India.

The Ottomans were Turks who conquered other ethnic groups and keep them in line with brutal force and bribery with slaves/treasure from conquests. They had ethnic problems from the beginning. But as the borders stayed stagnant and the Ottoman Empire declined these ethnic differences could no longer be suppressed. The Young Turks attempted a multicultural project called "neo-Ottomanism". Serb? Greek? Arab? Turk? It didn't matter - you could still be an Ottoman. It failed. People had no interest in this form of Civic Nationalism. The country suffered massive war and genocide until ethnic borders and mass ethnic migrations finally brought peace. I hope we don't have to suffer as much as they did to learn that multi-ethnic empires inevitably collapse.

Full Roman citizenship was restricted to Italians until the 3rd Century AD. Germans immigrating en masse to Italy was a big reason why Western Rome collapsed.

The English have been highly ethnically homogeneous until the 1960's unless you count the other nations they subjugated by force. England was mostly filled with English and smaller groups of other white nations. Massive demographic changes only started around the 1990's and continue to be a big problem to this day. The crime rate is skyrocketing. The black/brown occupied parts of London are as dangerous as the black/brown parts of the US. The UK will be at our current crime rate in a matter of decades due to diversity.

Babylon had massive ethnic problems that it had to solve with brutal force. I wouldn't use them as an example. They committed mass ethnic cleansing to stay in power. Then they were conquered thanks to a ethnic alliance of Greeks which failed to hold a multicultural empire together.

Nationalism isn't about being the Sentinalese. It's about defining your country based on blood and soil. You can have foreign diplomats, businesspeople, and even small settled minorities as long as a single nation is a supermajority in population and has most of the political power. That's how most stable countries are. The only exception are Empires which have to use bribery and force to keep the different nations in check. But once the grain (Or welfare) runs out and the Empire is no longer militarily strong then it breaks apart and descends into violence. America is a soft Empire that contains multiple nations within it. As whites soon become a minority and the economy falters we will Balkanize. I prefer peaceful separation. But too many Baby Boomers still think this country is still that supermajority white country they grew up with. Too many people live in predominantly white neighborhoods. They're delusional, but with demographics changing they won't stay that way for long. With the economy declining they won't continue to be comfortable. TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK - BOOM.
 
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How exactly do you decide where one river bank of the Rio Grande ends and the other begins? Rivers can change over time. Do we use the old measurements of the river or the changed measurements? Serbia and Croatia have a border dispute over this question.



How exactly do you determine mine and not mine? Each country, province, and city have different laws on this that change based on new legislation. Some cases are so unclear that they even need caselaw to set legal precedents since the law isn't 100% clear 100% of the time.



You can join the religion. That doesn't mean you can join any nation or cross any border you want. The Bible even mentions nation in a similar way to family. You can have separate households for families and separate countries for nations. Neither contradict The Bible.




It worked from 1790 to 1965.



People don't just drive to the border and hop over. They need jobs, public services, and welfare on the other side. We could get rid of virtually all illegal migrants right now if our leaders weren't corrupt. Eisenhower was able to deport 1 million illegals with "Operation Wetback". Require e-verify, restrict public services to citizens, beef up border security, make deportation an administrative matter like most countries do, and crack down on NGO's busing illegals here. The problem would be 99% solved in a matter of months.



White people tanning aren't considered nonwhite. Obama isn't considered white. You and I both know what white is. Police use racial descriptions to find suspects for a reason. With just a glance you can tell what race people are most of the time. America was a white ethnostate from 1790 to 1965. Rare, unclear cases of who was white wasn't a big challenge.



Black people weren't considered citizens until the 14th Amendment was passed (Illegally and at gunpoint). Dredd Scott explicitly denied both freed and enslaved blacks from being citizens:


I was wrong about the 1917 thing. It was 1924:




Most countries aren't predominantly East Asian or White. So they're failing.

America is worse now than it was several decades ago. Our military is being harmed by political correctness and diversity. Our wages are stagnant as cost of living soars thanks in part to immigrants flooding the labor pool and driving up housing prices.

Look at California. Whites are now a minority there. It's becoming like a 3rd World country. Diseases are spreading. Police are very corrupt. Cost of living is soaring and the divide between rich and poor is massive. The entire country will look like California in the next couple of decades.



If Hart-Seller wasn't passed and we would still be predominantly white. We wouldn't have anywhere near as many problems as we do now thanks to "diversity".



The concept of an Italian ethnic group predated the state of Italy by decades. They didn't evolve into Italians. They evolved from Latins to Italians.



Ok.



The Welsh, English, Scottish, etc. already have a large degree of autonomy within their own nations. Plus they're not as different from each other as the average white person is from the average black person. So it's possible that they could stay within the UK. Scotland may seek independence again though.



In addition, approximately every nation that doesn't act like the Sentinalese have accepted immigrants. You talk about your ideas like they are common wisdom, but in fact they directly break with the tradition of the past 2000+ years.


Classical Liberalism wasn't explicitly against Nationalism. The Founding Fathers were Nationalists. The addition of Civic Nationalism to the official Classical Liberal canon occurred in the Mid 1900's. The Classical Liberals of Enlightenment weren't like the Neoliberals today. They lived in an era where women weren't given equal rights, homosexuality was criminalized, and pornography was illegal. Neoliberals today would unanimously and fervently defend all of those ideas. But Classical Liberals didn't. Modern day "Classical Liberals" are best described as "Neoliberals" similar to how there is a distinction between oldschool "Classical Marxists" and SJW "neo-Marxists" of today.



Read my text above about California.

China has been supermajority Han Chinese throughout its history. Chinese who have lived in other countries are considered "Overseas Chinese". But a white American born and raised there is not considered Chinese. China also bans movies for featuring Asian-NonAsian relationships. China today and historically is an implicit ethnostate. Chinese identity is tied to Biological Nationalism. Terms like African-Chinese and Latino-Chinese make no sense unless the person is biracial.

India is very ethnically diverse, but not really all that racially diverse. But even with that amount of diversity there has been problems. There have been many ethnic conflicts and India has a highly federalized system that often times is hard to function. I could only imagine the nightmare of having Desi, Blacks, and Latinos thrown into India.

The Ottomans were Turks who conquered other ethnic groups and keep them in line with brutal force and bribery with slaves/treasure from conquests. They had ethnic problems from the beginning. But as the borders stayed stagnant and the Ottoman Empire declined these ethnic differences could no longer be suppressed. The Young Turks attempted a multicultural project called "neo-Ottomanism". Serb? Greek? Arab? Turk? It didn't matter - you could still be an Ottoman. It failed. People had no interest in this form of Civic Nationalism. The country suffered massive war and genocide until ethnic borders and mass ethnic migrations finally brought peace. I hope we don't have to suffer as much as they did to learn that multi-ethnic empires inevitably collapse.

Full Roman citizenship was restricted to Italians until the 3rd Century AD. Germans immigrating en masse to Italy was a big reason why Western Rome collapsed.

The English have been highly ethnically homogeneous until the 1960's unless you count the other nations they subjugated by force. England was mostly filled with English and smaller groups of other white nations. Massive demographic changes only started around the 1990's and continue to be a big problem to this day. The crime rate is skyrocketing. The black/brown occupied parts of London are as dangerous as the black/brown parts of the US. The UK will be at our current crime rate in a matter of decades due to diversity.

Babylon had massive ethnic problems that it had to solve with brutal force. I wouldn't use them as an example. They committed mass ethnic cleansing to stay in power. Then they were conquered thanks to a ethnic alliance of Greeks which failed to hold a multicultural empire together.

Nationalism isn't about being the Sentinalese. It's about defining your country based on blood and soil. You can have foreign diplomats, businesspeople, and even small settled minorities as long as a single nation is a supermajority in population and has most of the political power. That's how most stable countries are. The only exception are Empires which have to use bribery and force to keep the different nations in check. But once the grain (Or welfare) runs out and the Empire is no longer militarily strong then it breaks apart and descends into violence. America is a soft Empire that contains multiple nations within it. As whites soon become a minority and the economy falters we will Balkanize. I prefer peaceful separation. But too many Baby Boomers still think this country is still that supermajority white country they grew up with. Too many people live in predominantly white neighborhoods. They're delusional, but with demographics changing they won't stay that way for long. With the economy declining they won't continue to be comfortable. TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK - BOOM.
Okay, so at this point I'm just going to move up a level here:
If you want to debate these sorts of things, go to DT. Otherwise, this thread's going to get shit up, and regardless of your opinion about Vox being based, it's a bad idea to try and shield your hero by shitting up his thread. That just paints a big fat target on your back.
EDIT: Also: you do realize in that Ben Franklin quote up there that he thought that only landed Anglos were white, right? Germans, Scots, Swedes, and poor people were all seen as "swarthy" by him.
 
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It worked from 1790 to 1965
Yeah.... I think there was a little unpleasantness that occurred around the 1860s....

And that demonstrates how skewed the rest of your post is. If you want details, start the thread.

Meanwhile Vox has to turn what could be legit criticism into more Jew sperging.
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I like that someone comes here trying to claim that white people are superior, when this whole forum crystallized around an autistic Anglo who's always been pretty worthless.
 
Meanwhile Vox has to turn what could be legit criticism into more Jew sperging.
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Vox never used the word "Jew" in the article. The term "Trotskyite" and "Neoclown" was used. Jennifer Rubin and the NeverTrump/Stop Trump movement from the right are overwhelmingly Neoconservatives. The Neocon movement was founded by Trotskyites who were mad at the USSR since the Soviets kicked removed them from power. I don't get how "Jew sperging" and "conspiracy theory" are taken as some kind of argument here.

Yeah.... I think there was a little unpleasantness that occurred around the 1860s....

Which was caused by diversity. We should never have imported large numbers of racial others to make a small number of gentry wealthy. Nationalism would've prevented that.

Regardless America still became a superpower a couple of generations later. You can do that when you have a 85-90% ethnic supermajority.

I like that someone comes here trying to claim that white people are superior, when this whole forum crystallized around an autistic Anglo who's always been pretty worthless.

I never said white people were superior and you know that. You're acting like an "SJW" He's not worthless just because you have a hateboner for him.

EDIT: Also: you do realize in that Ben Franklin quote up there that he thought that only landed Anglos were white, right? Germans, Scots, Swedes, and poor people were all seen as "swarthy" by him.

Then he's even more "Alt-Right" than the Alt-Right then, not a Civic Nationalist.
 
Vox never used the word "Jew" in the article. The term "Trotskyite" and "Neoclown" was used. Jennifer Rubin and the NeverTrump/Stop Trump movement from the right are overwhelmingly Neoconservatives. The Neocon movement was founded by Trotskyites who were mad at the USSR since the Soviets kicked removed them from power. I don't get how "Jew sperging" and "conspiracy theory" are taken as some kind of argument here.



Which was caused by diversity. We should never have imported large numbers of racial others to make a small number of gentry wealthy. Nationalism would've prevented that.

Regardless America still became a superpower a couple of generations later. You can do that when you have a 85-90% ethnic supermajority.



I never said white people were superior and you know that. You're acting like an "SJW" He's not worthless just because you have a hateboner for him.



Then he's even more "Alt-Right" than the Alt-Right then, not a Civic Nationalist.
Shut up, nigger. This isn't the thread.
 
I never said white people were superior and you know that.

If Hart-Seller wasn't passed and we would still be predominantly white. We wouldn't have anywhere near as many problems as we do now thanks to "diversity".

But you're autistic, so maybe nuance isn't your long suit.

He's not worthless just because you have a hateboner for him.

I'm going to guess if I say "Christian Weston Chandler", you're going to be all like, "Who's that?"

Seriously, are you another lolcow apologist who believes Kiwi Farms was founded to mock your idol and yours only?
 
Vox never used the word "Jew" in the article. The term "Trotskyite" and "Neoclown" was used. Jennifer Rubin and the NeverTrump/Stop Trump movement from the right are overwhelmingly Neoconservatives. The Neocon movement was founded by Trotskyites who were mad at the USSR since the Soviets kicked removed them from power. I don't get how "Jew sperging" and "conspiracy theory" are taken as some kind of argument here.

Then why bring up Ben Shapiro who is too young to be a neocon under your definition? Why bring up those 3 particular commentators and not any of the many others? (Jonathan V. Last certainly bugs me plenty)

Which was caused by diversity. We should never have imported large numbers of racial others to make a small number of gentry wealthy. Nationalism would've prevented that.

No you dense meatbag, here were your quotes:
It worked from 1790 to 1965​
This is just the beginning of our unraveling. Paper Nationalism has failed.​

I won't even use sarcasm this time since you're apparently incapable of grasping it: You're saying the nation has failed today, while claiming it "worked" during a period which includes a civil war. Under what sane definition is a nation that is literally shooting itself more "working" than a nation that is just screaming at itself on twitter?

Regardless America still became a superpower a couple of generations later. You can do that when you have a 85-90% ethnic supermajority.

Oh, you mean the time period AFTER 1924 (and the 14th & 15th amendments) when you claim everything went wrong?

Also notice that the civil war happened during a period when America was even less diverse than during the superpower phase because they hadn't even begun having the mass immigration of other Europeans at the time save the Irish around that time. Or that the world wars tore Europe apart when its immigration rates were negligible.

People don't just drive to the border and hop over. They need jobs, public services, and welfare on the other side. We could get rid of virtually all illegal migrants right now if our leaders weren't corrupt. Eisenhower was able to deport 1 million illegals with "Operation Wetback". Require e-verify, restrict public services to citizens, beef up border security, make deportation an administrative matter like most countries do, and crack down on NGO's busing illegals here. The problem would be 99% solved in a matter of months.

Also just wanted to point out here: many would actually agree with you on this (I do) but you do the cause no favor by playing to the media stereotype of nationalism equaling racism.
 
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