Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Allanon said:
I'm so sick of these fake rape stats. 2% of false accusations, 95% of guilty rapists go free, 10% of rapists serve time, 1 in 4 women are assaulted, what EVER. It's all made up, it's all literally impossible to track, based off of lies, twisted polling, and the assumption that if at any time a woman (not a man) ever feels slightly uncomfortable about something even if she looks back at it 95 years later she must have been legitimately raped, and anything less than decades of prison time for the person she arbitrarily points the finger at is a horrible failure of the justice system. Not one single other form of crime ever in the history of the universe falls under those rules. It's pure insanity to take it at face value and say 'yeah, that makes sense!'
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Well, you know what they say:
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ChodeMonkey said:
You either die a doxxer or live long enough to become a cow. Shortround can burn in hell with all the other self important exceptional individuals that serve their purpose and don't know when to stop.
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WTF happened to Shortround? Did he go homeless from buying domains?
 
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Reverend said:
Crazy is taking her home to mom, introducing her to your friends, saying "You know, I can change this one, she's amazing and a keeper. Nothing else matters."

All those thoughts are crazy and every redhead I've ever met is crazy. Tis why Vic was seduced by her, maybe that's where he learned his mind raping ways..from a soulless succubi ginger.
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Ah, you are speaking of red heads. I've dealt more with "trailer park princesses" and alcoholics. Carry on good sir.

quickthrowaway said:
I had the same opinion for Gunn as I do now for the idiots at Funimation. They made their own beds. Gunn was all too happy to see Roseanne fired by Disney over a tweet. And when that same culture he helped to spread comes back to bite him in the ass, I'm supposed to feel sorry. Nah, fuck him.

It was however funny that people ever thought they were gonna keep him fired. If he ever was at all.
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I think companies are learning they can just do a press release and then go about their business.
 
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ShaggyDawg said:
But again, weren't their names supposed to be redacted? Or does it not apply to affidavits?
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I'm pretty god damn sure that anonymous affidavits are not permissible.
Immaculate Ape said:
The Great Chimpening is already happening on Law Twit
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Ty has already demonstrated he is capable of memes and elementary shitposting.
Now he's graduated to basic trolling.
 
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WhimsicalTrolli said:
funileaks won the normies to be sympathetic to the iswv cause or just sees the hypocrisy. This is great, they wanted the case be public they got twitter top trending public. Since super and the game is finished i don't see toei pulling the plug on funi yet, maybe when super is getting dubbed again I could see some rehirings.
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I don't know how many of the normies even know it's Vic-related or even know who Vic is.

The only real importance is Toei knows how many people know and that they've been humiliated in front of a huge audience by their paid underlings.
 
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Eyeshield said:
The weird thing is they're particularly engaged about this... FSE is making a LOT of casual tweets as if they're already set for it. I wonder if it's just bravado or they're actually backing it up?

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This is either high levels of trolling or its actually true
Son of Sparda 84 said:
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That may be yet to come buddy. Sabat has some skellys in his wardrobe.

Jub-Jub said:
Remember how Soye stated in his deposition that if anybody was calling him a paedo or rapist he would ignore it? When he was called a wife beater and people had document proof, he didn't ignore it... he went straight to the source and tried to tell his side of the sob story.


I went back and found it for you. I had the wrong twin.
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Was that after the incident in the affidavit?

TheLastJoestar said:
If i recall correctly, Chris himself owns the Okatron 5000 Studio where he'd be free to record that and have it as a private thing he could share with friends. Hence why every voice involved in that "skit" was his own. It's not exactly an abuse of an IP when you have professional recording equipment at home and something Leaks. It wasn't released for anything. At best it's for personal use.

Ever use a Sound Booth? That happens a lot. And it was adlibbed from the sound of things. A single scenario adlibbed to the end, and Chris swaps between voices on the fly... believe it or not, shit like that is used as practice. warmup fodder or something he recorded to pass the time that was supposed to remain a joke for just him and maybe another engineer. Par the course for this industry.
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I agree with the main point that it's antithetical to the company "look" that they want to push forward, But I wholeheartedly disagree that the same studio that dubbed Dance in the Vampire Bund and many other bordeline hentai shows would have the same views on what is and isn't "workplace sexual harassment." Which Makes the Vic thing seem all the stupider. Monica and Jamie play Panty and Stocking, 2 sluts who talk about fucking all the time. Chris in that show plays Garterbelt, a Black priest who wants to molest little children. This is different than your average Joe sallary-man kind of thing. But some stupid G-rated joke about a Jellybean is enough to try and get Vic to Kill himself? Thats what I find most outrageous. So "Jelly bean" that's horrible but Sonny Straight shouting in Krillin's voice "KA ME HA ME HA! BITCHES!!" at conventions is just dandy? ehhh no.

I am saying, above all, THAT is what you want to go after. Not actors screwing around in the voice booth (It happens in Japan too, Mayumi Tanaka famously replaced Akemi Okamura's Scripts so she screams Climate CHINPO [penis] instead of Tempo.) Voice actors are not as "professional" as you'd be lead to believe. We're all just children with a microphone, and that doesn't change no matter where you are. I bet you'll find things like that in other voice reels found in the Japanese Audio companies. If somebody were ballsy enough to leak them.

And Above all i hold steadfast that if this becomes ISWV's sticking point all those fun little interations at conventions will be nuked by overhead. And I don't think anybody wants that. this is the farms, It doesnt matter at the end of the day to this site, but ISWV are people who tout themselves as convention-going anime fans. Do they really want the whole experience to be extremely sanitized? And free of any actual human interaction?



Now it's time for an age old question. if you clone yourself and fuck it, is it gay or masturbation?
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Whoever leaked it worked at Funimation and had access to it. It stops being home made when the company who owns the ip has it
Plank said:
Yes.

I was thinking one major thing this glorious clusterfuck of a day was missing was a concise as possible Vic Mignogna Harassment Campaign In A Nutshell summary for the massive number of people who have heard nothing but the disgusting SJW activist media narrative.

Like what is the absolutely minimalist summary/timeline actively updated in a thread for people to read in a minute or so:

* Vic doesn't want to sign Han Leia's gay porn
* Sabat/Rial/etc first attempt to get Vic removed from his major Dragon Ball role fails
* Vic gets setup to be a director by Funimation
* Vic moves to Texas
* Han Leia starts the twitter attack on Vic because she mistakes Rials former pedophile boyfriend for Vic
* Marguz starts the twitter harassment hashtag
* Rial and others jump on the twitter harassment campaign against Vic with the Jellybean and other stories
* Funimation/Sony do their sham 'investigation' that is really based upon the acts of Rials ex-boyfriend
* Funimation makes their tweets implying they fired Vic because of that investigation
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* Kara Edwards makes her idiotic attempt at jumping on the Vic harassment campaign. Here are the videos showing she is unambiguously lying.

etc.

My list is a fucking mess and certainly wildly inaccurate but I would have loved to see people linking this type of Vic Mignogna Harassment Campaing In A Nutshell all over the place today. Scumbags like Jennifer Lynn Hunt are tough to quickly summarize since they are an endless stream of ever-changing lies, but I have seen many people today suddenly become enthusiastic Vic supporters once it is broken down for them and they realize this is all coming from a small click of Texas scumbag voice actors and a few lunatic online activists.

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I'll add that this is one area I believe Nick has really done a poor job making his content accessible to a wider audience. I have spent tens of hours following this sicking attack on Vic and everything makes sense to me now but for the millions of people who haven't done so the 'creepy guy has huge numbers of women complaining about him and he has apologized and admitted such and such acts' narrative is so easy to latch onto.

Nick was doing a good job outlining something similar last night and I hope he starts giving a real quick summary at the start of his shows so more people can grasp the big picture and not be faced with having some three hour stream where some new key evidence against the group of scumbag voice actors comes out but without the broader context of why it matters.
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Im actually starting to wonder if the Nya.nko account is a Funimation plant. And "someone" suggested that Hanleia and Marzgurl retweet it.
 
Plank said:
I'll add that this is one area I believe Nick has really done a poor job making his content accessible to a wider audience. I have spent tens of hours following this sicking attack on Vic and everything makes sense to me now but for the millions of people who haven't done so the 'creepy guy has huge numbers of women complaining about him and he has apologized and admitted such and such acts' narrative is so easy to latch onto.
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That is not Nick’s purpose. He is not there to give a quick “glossing” over of the facts of the case for people just getting into it.
That is the other youtubers job. Take Nick’s livestream and make a 10 minute hottake.

You don’t go to Nick for a quickie. You go for an all night session.
 
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ChodeMonkey said:
You either die a doxxer or live long enough to become a cow. Shortround can burn in hell with all the other self important exceptional individuals that serve their purpose and don't know when to stop.
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Wait what happened to Shortround?
 
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vic deserved to be cancelled but funimation voice actors deserve not to be cancelled.
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How does one hate and deride cancel culture while non-ironically actively participating in it? 'Cancel culture strikes again' 'VIC BALOGNA BECAUSE HE'S CANCELLED'.

The fujos are just happy their VAs recorded gay porn, clearly.
 
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DragoonSierra said:
Was that after the incident in the affidavit?
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Like i mentioned in a post above that one, it's before. 2012 love tweet, 2013 meet, 2015 Anime blues con and 'the horror'. I'd put money on the communications between Vic and the twins often having flirty undertones.

Interestingly looking back at the thread people were looking at colossal con 2014 and assuming that was the twins event. Anybody remember if the dates have changed for the Yost twins?
 
Laundui_or_douchette? said:
That is not Nick’s purpose. He is not there to give a quick “glossing” over of the facts of the case for people just getting into it.
That is the other youtubers job. Take Nick’s livestream and make a 10 minute hottake.

You don’t go to Nick for a quickie. You go for an all night session.
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The only thing I can see that pisses them off is that Nick was a nobody and his show was obscure as fuck, and with this case, he’s a minor celebrity on YouTube. They’re throwing a tantrum because they don’t have a Nick of their own doing streams every week. The closest they have is Greg.
Hotfartz :) said:
Wait what happened to Shortround?
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Early on, Short Round tried his hand at making merch (mainly patches) for trolling and general support purposes. Then somebody called #BelieveBulma tried doing the same thing for Kick Vic. Some said it was Short Round playing both sides because capitalism and then it got crazy. One of the more incomprehensible arcs looking back.
Allanon said:
How does one hate and deride cancel culture while non-ironically actively participating in it? 'Cancel culture strikes again' 'VIC BALOGNA BECAUSE HE'S CANCELLED'.

The fujos are just happy their VAs recorded gay porn, clearly.
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Aside from Goku/Vegeta, is there really that much fujoshi bait in DBZ?
 
Chudbacca said:
They're either incredibly fucking stupid or incredibly dishonest or both.

Some of the shit they said was funny. Sabat is pretty talented. Most everyone pointing out these recordings aren't offended, they see a double standard.

These idiots...these absolute idiots...really think that people are trying to compare Vic "totally raping someone" to "Sabat played a character who raped someone." No, you fucking liar morons. Wrong. It shouldn't need explaining. You don't deserve to have it explained to you if you can't already see why it matters.

Can't win with these people. They're too set in their ways. They can't admit defeat in any damn way. They're exceptional individuals.
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Probably both. We know they're invested in doubling-down. And we know that gay jokes aren't inherently bad.

The problem is both. Pure social justice and pure intolerance don't mix, and everybody knows it. See also; "trans exclusionary radical feminists." Who are sadly the most rational of their particular bunch.
GeneralMint said:
Im not so sure about that anymore. Sounds like more people in the industry are coming around with the new details. He may just get himself a spot with a different company after all.
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Assuming Vic is "done" or "fired" because of Funimation is assuming Funimation has a worthwhile future. He's the first rat off the ship, and the last rat will envy him. Not that anything else is new.
AnOminous said:
Did he get everyone's consent for that first? Did he ask the possibly gay sound engineers and other people about this before exposing them to faggot faggot fucking fag shit? Or are those people just subhuman plebs?

I wonder who was mad enough at this batch of absolute cunts to rat them out.

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Are you actually assuming there's only one?

HEH HEH HEH. Get fucked, Funi. Your witch hunt will turn on you quickly if you become the hunted.
 
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So I'm dying of laughter right now (been a bit busy). Do you know why at least a 100 of us were telling you to settle, Funi? This right here was the exact reason. You morons all waited around expecting nothing to happen and now you're trending on a can of worms that can never be closed. Ever. If I were any of you, I'd do everything I could to cover your own ass because this is exactly what happened to Vic and I'm certain someone wouldn't be afraid to cut ties "For PR reasons." Congradufuckin'lations on setting this up for yourselves. As for me, I'm pretty sure I had a general idea what these people were like so no surprise from me. I don't really care so long as Vic gets proven that this whole mess is hogwash because he doesn't deserve to be in this mess.

I'm just looking at IGN and oh my god the hypocrisy is too damn high. "Oh it was from 20 years ago so it doesn't count." Yet James Gunn lost his job over a tweet he made years ago. Or all the other random tweets that get people fired from a job. Seems like it's focused more on Funimation and not so much Vic mentions which funny thing if people find out they keep pedofiles or questionable people around (Vic not being innocent might be worse for them at this point). I kind of want to see Funi burn so I'll take this minor burn for the time being. Oh boy what a great day it is.
 
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Is there a clip of the part of the deposition (or a time stamp of it in a larger video) where Vic "agrees" to hair pulling? (I.e. where he doesn't actually do that, but the transcript misrepresents it.)
I would be extremely grateful if someone could help me find it.
 
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