Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[Super-Chevy454]

If the court rule in favor of Funimation. It'll be a pyrrhic victory for them now then the cat is out of the bag and it'll hard to put it back in the bag.

 

[1234567890abc]

Stop trolling the NewFags

He wasn't trolling. He was serious

 

[Iron Hamster]

HeroHei seems honestly exceptional in his live streams. He repeats what he half-remembers from Nick and can't grapple sentences longer than 10 words. The other day he had to grab some water, introduced that he was going to be standing up and get some, and said he hated "dead air" so he was going to count out loud as he was doing it. He proceeded to spill water, because walking and counting was one function too complicated for this simpleton.

Yeah, Half his vids are talking about a subject and the other half is repeating the first half. I had to stop watching.

 

[AnOminous]

It also left entire arguments by defendants completely unopposed, which will likely fuck Vic up if he needs to appeal (which he will, the filing is utterly terrible, don't let KickVic's autism make you think they're telling lies).

Which ones? Note: he doesn't have to go chasing off into the weeds on every offhand argument made by the defense, he just has to establish a prima facie case on each element.

Also you only waive something on appeal if it's an argument you didn't make. You don't waive a counter argument because someone else merely mentioned some argument and you didn't address it at a time in the case when it wasn't even relevant.

For it even to matter on appeal, you'd have to lose based on that specific argument anyway.

Also, you 'knowledge' is wrong because Vic was asked about Chris Sabat during his deposition.

It doesn't really matter whether Sabat was previously mentioned, but the deposition isn't a "filing," or at least it wasn't until Vic filed all the depositions. However, the defense did include, for who knows what reason, a post from PULL listing Sabat as a supporter of kickvic.

So guys can someone who isn't completely ignorant at law explain to me if Ty beards motion to strike is good or bad?

What's there to be good or bad? Aside from some mostly generic statements of admissibility rules, it's a list of exhibits and the claimed reason they're inadmissible. A judge is either going to agree or not, just as he would at trial for an objection, isn't going to be interested in much in the way of argument, and you won't be able to appeal until after the trial, if at all.

Either the judge agrees it's inadmissible hearsay or he doesn't.

Any argument in there will then be as to the weight and not admissibility of the evidence. Quite often, the judge will admit evidence he knows is garbage and then completely disregard it. That way, there's no appeal possible for denying its admission.

Apparently there are contradictory statements.

There are contradictory arguments, I believe. It's called pleading in the alternative and is pretty routine.

The problem here is that it fucks with their narrative, if this guy is responsible for Vic's tarnished reputation, then why isn't he sued along with them?

That's irrelevant. It has absolutely nothing to do with a prima facie case.

It would only be relevant in the event the defense loses entirely at trial and then, it would only reduce the level of their own liability.

And of course in the event that Sabat doesn't end up sued when the affidavit, for some reason, introduces evidence that would support every element of defamation against Sabat himself. I wonder why. Must be just some dumb thing hick Texas lawyers do.

(Plus by invoking rumors from 20 years ago, they're also playing into the defense's hands and admitted that Vic is libel-proof).

That's easily the dumbest and most dead in the water defense argument there is. It can safely be ignored or dismissed in a couple sentences. The libel-proof defendant doctrine is nonsense.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

HeroHei seems honestly exceptional in his live streams. He repeats what he half-remembers from Nick and can't grapple sentences longer than 10 words. The other day he had to grab some water, introduced that he was going to be standing up and get some, and said he hated "dead air" so he was going to count out loud as he was doing it. He proceeded to spill water, because walking and counting was one function too complicated for this simpleton.

I laughed real loud at this, that's fucking hilarious. I haven't bothered with the ISWV orbiters because they all seem dumb but was thinking of trying HH since he seems kinda cute but that sounds too retarded to bother with

 

[AnOminous]

#LawTwitter are exceptional about dumb shit like typos and filing delays potentially getting Ty in trouble (at best he gets a talking-to on most of those tbh), but they don't seem to be talking too much shit when it comes to the big issues of the case, mainly being that Vic has to prove some things to get past this anti-SLAPP stage of the case (things like not being a public figure, and him botching the deposition etc), and based on what I read just now, he's probably gonna have to plan for an inevitable loss.

He doesn't have to "prove" anything. He just has to produce the smallest amount of evidence that could conceivably establish it. So if he has to establish that the defamatory statements were false, Vic simply saying they are and that he didn't do these things is sufficient.

 

[CausticMinory]

I still find it massively appropriate that both Vic and chuck voiced their respective characters in the anime canon after a long absence of their characters, one last time before they both left Funimation. Vic unintentionally with the broly movie, and chuck with the ToP.

It's also really appropriate in the ways their characters were portrayed. Vic was seen as a monster by some but turned out was a nice guy in the end. And chuck was the MVP that won it all in the end of it all, after coming out of nowhere after many long years

Life imitates art funny that way.

 

[CuntBusterMan55]

So what y'all think? What are Vic's chances of winning this whole thing? I personally think it's around 60%. I wanna see what everyone else thinks.

 

[Spectre_06]

Hey dude as someone who works in legal services, why do you think Greg is twisting the narrative so hard? And how dumb are the kickvic crowd?

Because MoRon is literally paying him to be their spokesman.

 

[SiccDicc]

So what y'all think? What are Vic's chances of winning this whole thing? I personally think it's around 60%. I wanna see what everyone else thinks.

With judges everything is up in the air. There is no percentage or chance, one moment they could seem favorable and the next they could blindside you.

 

[Imperial Agent]

The problem here is that it fucks with their narrative, if this guy is responsible for Vic's tarnished reputation, then why isn't he sued along with them?

(Plus by invoking rumors from 20 years ago, they're also playing into the defense's hands and admitted that Vic is libel-proof).

That's not how any of this works...

You have no obligation to sue every person who harms your reputation.

If you think 20 year old rumors make you libel-proof, you don't know what libel proof is.

 

[soft kitty]

So what y'all think? What are Vic's chances of winning this whole thing? I personally think it's around 60%. I wanna see what everyone else thinks.

This is getting good. And it's only just beginning. Vic is going to win. Not a question in my mind. I could go into why, but If you've been following everything from the beginning, it's pretty obvious. And I know, yes, even Nick says it's foolish to say one way or the other, and I understand that, but I just don't see any way Vic doesn't outright win or they end up settling, given everything that's happened so far, and from what I've seen.

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

but I just don't see any way Vic doesn't outright win or they end up settling, given everything that's happened so far, and from what I've seen.

Exceptionalism always wins out over common sense. While it may seem reasonable for them to settle at this point to save them further embarrassment, they're not going to let themselves get sunset without doing as much damage to Vic and any other person sympathetic to Vic as possible, as shown by every filing they've submitted being a shitty hit piece.

 

[ES 195]

Are you asking people to tell you what you want to hear, or what actually happened?

What actually happened is that the filing was awful and the discord tard was right.
Ty's submission was utterly unreadable to the point where I got a headache, I can tell you that because I've been reading almost all of the filings so far. It literally read like a last-minute homework submission.

#LawTwitter are exceptional about dumb shit like typos and filing delays potentially getting Ty in trouble (at best he gets a talking-to on most of those tbh), but they don't seem to be talking too much shit when it comes to the big issues of the case, mainly being that Vic has to prove some things to get past this anti-SLAPP stage of the case (things like not being a public figure, and him botching the deposition etc), and based on what I read just now, he's probably gonna have to plan for an inevitable loss.

This is the problem that occurs when you write your briefs and spend a ton of time live on air to please stream regulars instead of diligently working on shit for your client and putting %200 into it.

At least when Dynastia comes in to start shit he raises some good points. This bait is limper than Lemoine's diseased cock.

 

[Legioneer]

So what y'all think? What are Vic's chances of winning this whole thing? I personally think it's around 60%. I wanna see what everyone else thinks.

I think they're going to win a lawsuit by 80%, but if they don't, they're going to win an appeal by 80%.
So the overall probability of winning is 96%.

It's all about case law. Nobody needs such a precedent. And Vic's lawyers are working well enough so that the case could not be dismissed on formal grounds.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

They just played out the defendants like a bunch of cats with a laser pointer.
A huge tribute must be paid to the BHBH. Nick Rekieta is very clever, but here you can see a huge amount of experience.

I think Lemoine already has a lot less desire to joke about the "master of strategies". Because this is a strategy played at the God level.

Got to remember, BHBH works differently from the law firms you see on TV, and it seems how they work somewhat in real life.

You go to a law firm, they assign a lawyer to you, and that dude and a paralegal pretty much deal with your case for you. They may ask other lawyers for help and assistance for ideas-bouncing, but generally you get your lawyer type and he deals with the stuff himself as his assigned case.

You go to BHBH and you're basically hiring the entire fucking firm. Sure, you got a lead on the case but the entire firm pitches in on various meetings, considerations and random white boards which can be scribbled on by any member of the firm. They no doubt hold war councils where all their lawyers sit in and discuss what the best strategy is.

This means, in terms of simple experience in years, you're hiring 100+ years of experience versus the MoRon's combined 30.

EDIT: Should also chip in, that Ty is impressed by Nick's ability to predict. He's coming up with similar, solid strategies they've no doubt considered at their war councils. Meaning Podunk Lawyer in the middle of nowhere, Minnesota is on the same level as a room full of ruthless lawyers and a dude from MENSA.

 

[Zaragoza]

Reading the TCPA, holy shit Chris Sabat is a total piece of shit.

 

[Freedom Fries]

EDIT: Should also chip in, that Ty is impressed by Nick's ability to predict. He's coming up with similar, solid strategies they've no doubt considered at their war councils. Meaning Podunk Lawyer in the middle of nowhere, Minnesota is on the same level as a room full of ruthless lawyers and a dude from MENSA.

It's a lot easier to spitball and predict when that's all you have to do rather than actually draft of back stuff up with legal precedent. Not truing tot anything away from Nick, but it's sorta apples and apple pie here

 

[Garm]

With judges everything is up in the air. There is no percentage or chance, one moment they could seem favorable and the next they could blindside you.

Or if he ate some bad chili.

 

[Nihil Jung]

So what y'all think? What are Vic's chances of winning this whole thing? I personally think it's around 60%. I wanna see what everyone else thinks.

Thinking 100% ONE of the TCPAs getting shut down, and after that who knows, 80%?

When I had heard Ty's latest filing was almost 1200 pages I had kinda thought they were tackling the constitutionality of the TCPA full stop, writing a treatise attacking it outright, something they may have had on hand as a matter of principle. Regardless, they have proven sensible and seem to get more and more evidence and support each day, whereas the defendants *should* be shedding any reasoning person with their mounting hypocrisy.

You cannot stress enough that while represented as a single unit MoRonica's unwed status doesn't grant them any safety or benifit at all, when it comes to being represented by one law firm. Short of settling, one of them will have to shoulder responsibility over the other, and if Ron is as violent and ragefilled as Texas thinks, it paints a bleak situation for Monica even if she is the one that gets off easier (in court).

I also assume the judge will hand their asses to them over their discovery abuse and going back on the "wanting it all out there" despite promising the judge that that wouldn't happen. It's gonna be an interesting day in court!

Its 100% better for the defendants that they didnt bring Nick in for deposition. The twitter spats and shenanigans are one thing, to bring the drama infront of a judge...what the fuck were they thinking even posturing about that??