Once Upon A Time In Hollywood - The 9th film from Quentin Tarantino

Because I have nothing else better to do with my time:

Panel 1: LMAO FOOT FETISH
Panel 2: Scene-setting? Sharon Who?
Panel 3: How dare a character have flaws.
Panel 4: A fight that's stopped at a tie with them at equal footing = white supremacy.
Panel 5: Tex who?
Panel 6: How dare a FUCKING WHITE MALE act in self-defense against someone trying to kill him.
Panel 7: I'll give the artist credit for being the first Tumblrina to say "CRITICS BAD".
 
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The only one I'll give them is Bruce Lee. His characterization was odd and seemed to be a caricature of his film appearances rather than his actual personality.

That said, I don't think he was marginalized, and given the alternative history ending you can pretty much write it off as not needing to be a real representation of the real person anyway.
 
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iRON-mAn said:
The only one I'll give them is Bruce Lee. His characterization was odd and seemed to be a caricature of his film appearances rather than his actual personality.
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My read on Bruce Lee was that he was there to juxtapose Brad Pitt and Margo Robbie's characters by showing how they react differently to his "instruction."

The problem with the "yellow man bad" analysis--like the rest of this chick's analysis--is that its all surface level. It assumes that when the movie portrays something a certain way its also advocating for that portrayal. Take for example the scene where Brad Pitt is beating the shit out of that girl. Its presented as his hero moment, but it also makes you feel uncomfortable because its unnecessarily brutal. Did the cartoonist ever consider, even for a moment, that its presented that way for a reason? That toying with your emotions/expectations was one of the central gimmicks of the fucking film?
 
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Stab You in the Back said:
My read on Bruce Lee was that he was there to juxtapose Brad Pitt and Margo Robbie's characters by showing how they react differently to his "instruction."

The problem with the "yellow man bad" analysis--like the rest of this chick's analysis--is that its all surface level. It assumes that when the movie portrays something a certain way its also advocating for that portrayal. Take for example the scene where Brad Pitt is beating the shit out of that girl. Its presented as his hero moment, but it also makes you feel uncomfortable because its unnecessarily brutal. Did the cartoonist ever consider, even for a moment, that its presented that way for a reason? That toying with your emotions/expectations was one of the central gimmicks of the fucking film?
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Eh, I didn't consider that beating to be unnecessarily brutal. It was cartoon-ish so I was laughing the whole way through it rather than feeling uncomfortable. Parts of it felt very 'Kill Bill'. But regardless whether you consider it silly or brutal, I agree that Tarantino did it that way for a reason. Tarantino is such a genuine auteur that I doubt there's anything in this film that wasn't done for a specific purpose.

That said, it is interesting that Tarantino didn't consult with Lee's family on the characterization. I'm not talking about asking permission to use him the way he did, because I think Tarantino would have told the story he wanted regardless how anyone felt. But we know for a fact that he reached out to Tate's family, and let Polanski see the script, but never contacted Lee's family at any point. Now, I don't think he was intentionally doing that because he knew they'd be mad, I doubt he cared that much. But it does show a level of respect that he didn't extend to Lee, for whatever reason.

Ultimately, the Lee scene exists to explain why Cliff wasn't Rick's stuntman that day so that he could take his little roadtrip to the Manson family ranch and it served its purpose.
 
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Commander X said:
While I'm not a fan of Tarantino, I almost want to become one out of spite over the number of people trying to go all TARANTINO IS CANCELLED lately. Like so.

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Won't someone please think of the Manson girls whose only crime was not being respectful of the Hollywood old guard.
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Some things never change.
 
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Oscar Wildean said:
I saw the movie a while back. I liked it and enjoyed it. It was fun. The violence was actually tame in this one. I didn't realize how long it was going to be but I didn't get bored. And I love the soundtrack.


Hell yeah.
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I wish we could hear more soundtracks like this one.

And with "alternate history" theme, I wonder who'll have the guts to do a movie where Mark Chapman killed Yoko Ono instead of John Lennon? :story:
 
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I wish we could hear more soundtracks like this one.

And with "alternate history" theme, I wonder who'll have the guts to do a movie where Mark Chapman killed Yoko Ono instead of John Lennon? :story:
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The entire soundtrack is on Youtube. I love the oldies music mixed in with the DJ and the radio ads. It reminds me of the Reservoir Dogs soundtrack.
 
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Super-Chevy454 said:
I wish we could hear more soundtracks like this one.

And with "alternate history" theme, I wonder who'll have the guts to do a movie where Mark Chapman killed Yoko Ono instead of John Lennon? :story:
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iirc mark was gunning after john and david bowie
i would love a what if of "what if mark killed bowie instead of john"
 
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Alternative history needs to be more of a thing in movies. What-if stories or AUs have always proven to be popular and it offers so many possibilities to see how much different the future would be if certain things happened/didn't happen. I'm really surprised that Hollywood doesn't take advantage of these kinds of stories more often.
 
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Just saw it and honestly, I'm let down. I was already apprehensive about seeing Tarantino attempt to recreate a real life violent murder
but the end is still a gratuitous murder fantasy, just towards more "acceptable targets". Killing Hitler worked great as a twist, this didn't.

I think the older I get the less patience I have for Tarantino.
 
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I went into the movie not reading any reviews and with no expectations. I left appreciating the small details like the bus stop benches or the TV that the episode of Mannix was playing on, or station call letters were much more important in that era.

Since I'm a fan of 60's TV shows (especially westerns), I really enjoyed that aspect of the movie. I would love to see him direct some episodes of Cannon.

It wasn't an especially memorable movie to me other than DiCaprio's acting in the saloon scene and the tension buildup at Spahn's Ranch, but it made for pleasant viewing. I am glad that I saw it on a movie screen. If I saw it on a TV screen, I feel it would lose a lot.
 
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I loved this film, it will not make my top 10 but I thought it was an enjoyable piece of cinema, and I think Quentin is good at that. I think a lot of the things I would have said have already been covered already.

A lot of people don't like Quentin Tarantino because they want something to be offended about. They act like only boring white guys like his movies whilst everyone else is so woke that they see right through his shit.The other 'haters' are autistic film buffs who don't like the fact he is a good mainstream director, they can't accept he makes good films that the normies enjoy so they critique him so they can talk about some cruddy foreign film from the 1930s instead.
 
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Just finished watching it. Damn good movie, with less campiness and more serious tone. The dark humor scenes were greatly appreciated. I also agree with many of the assessments posted here, it definitely feels like Tarantino uses allegory as a main storytelling device to show many flaws in Hollywood and how, in a way, the movie takes place in an era that was "the beginning of the end".
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Armond White, of all critics, has written a rather positive review of OUATIH, considering he's criticized Tarantino before, and does so in this review. White has some reservations about the film and closes his review with the following statement:

Once Upon a Time gets at Hollywood’s seamy underbelly in ways I never expected. It is easily Tarantino’s best film, but we still suffer his fundamental problem of poisoned nostalgia.
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I agree with this as well. My only quirk is that the soundtrack, while cool and all, was too overbearing for my taste. Other than that, it was great.
Commander X said:
While I'm not a fan of Tarantino, I almost want to become one out of spite over the number of people trying to go all TARANTINO IS CANCELLED lately. Like so.

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Won't someone please think of the Manson girls whose only crime was not being respectful of the Hollywood old guard.
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So now I see why the hate boner against this movie, they can fuck right off. The pitbull fucking up the hippies was hilarious.
 
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