Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

[Jack Awful]

If this is old news, then I apologize; just woke up.

Alec fucking knew this was going to happen, to the point that he was doing DBT along with his medication to prepare.

Prediction of the future:

https://i.imgur.com/J75QRXo.jpg

Talking shit about Zoë as far back as 2013:

https://i.imgur.com/7wejyhb.png

https://i.imgur.com/l3M7TY5.png

In Canada, what she has done is classified (at the bare minimum) as manslaughter. At the most, she could be tried for second-degree murder, if they can prove there was an intent to kill.

• Manslaughter in Canada carries no minimum sentence unless a gun is used (which it wasn't in this case), and the maximum sentence is life.
• Second-Degree Murder in Canada carries a minimum sentence of life in prison, with no parole for 10 years. The maximum sentence is life in prison, with no parole for 25 years.

LOCK THIS CUNT UP!
(press x to doubt anything ever happening because this is Canada we're talking about)

Good luck finding someone to argue against Zoe on his behalf.
Not even his sister wants to defend him.

 

[CatharticShitHead]

Didn't see it mentioned in the thread and couldn't find anywhere else to post (gamergatehq getting unlocked when?) , Leigh Alexander tried to get on the gaymin me2 train but her target just threatened to sue and she immediately deleted the whole accusation and only got picked up by one literal who site, the article and a google cache [http://archive.fo/j14D1] are the only evidence that shit ever happened. Shit we barely even know what exactly he did besides being abusive. (though to be honest if the accusation was that he made his girlfriends wait around doing mindless shit for no reason then I'd believe that shit full stop)


Shoulda picked a weak(er?) beta like Zoe did.

Spoiler: Dabbin on that hoe

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Good on him. It's funny because I played his game too, where you have to manipulate others. He already knows the game. He's prepared for that #me2 shit

 

[NAPtime]

No, I guarantee Zoe has friends that work for patreon, or at least contacts in the company that will keep her account up.

I had a feeling I'd heard she had contacts there, but thought the accountants might have overridden the virtue signalling face. If a mainstream article gets written about it, it would probably hurt, even if Patreon is too big to fall from it. (Assuming an article portraying her in a negative light can ever be written and not immediately retracted.)

You're forgetting that Patreon is extremely biased when it comes to political persons of interest.

At the end of the day Patreon is a company, taking action to mitigate risk is nothing out of the ordinary. It's just the point at which cutting their ties with her is less damaging than letting her stay.

Hope springs eternal.

 

[Clop]

Didn't see it mentioned in the thread and couldn't find anywhere else to post (gamergatehq getting unlocked when?) , Leigh Alexander tried to get on the gaymin me2 train but her target just threatened to sue and she immediately deleted the whole accusation and only got picked up by one literal who site, the article and a google cache [http://archive.fo/j14D1] are the only evidence that shit ever happened. Shit we barely even know what exactly he did besides being abusive. (though to be honest if the accusation was that he made his girlfriends wait around doing mindless shit for no reason then I'd believe that shit full stop)


Shoulda picked a weak(er?) beta like Zoe did.

Spoiler: Dabbin on that hoe

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"I have spoken with multiple credible women and other colleagues about his abusive behavior"

CALL THE FUCKING POLICE, YOU FUCKING INCOMPETENT CUNTS

 

[Bloody bunny]

"I have spoken with multiple credible women and other colleagues about his abusive behavior"

CALL THE FUCKING POLICE, YOU FUCKING INCOMPETENT CUNTS

No they take oppressive things like credibility into account you racist fuck

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Zoe likely manipulated alec which likely exasperated his mental issues and led alec to abuse her.neither of them are in the right that's how messy relationship usually go.

LMAO of course. It's the abuse victims fault. Sure, idiot.

Let's shit on all abusive victims because hurr durr Zoe Quinn evil.

 

[Bad Headspace]

The bar for that would be very high and it would be for something along the lines of Tortuous interference, and if I'm not mistaken the family would have to be willing to sue and they would have to prove that they intended for him to kill himself and knew their actions would lead to suicide..... Oh, and have to sue internationally cause guy was Canadian and Zoe is American.

So it ain't gonna happen. You'd need bottomless pits of money and have to find a literal conspiracy with the explicit intent of having him kill himself and even then the case would most likely lose because the collusion was most likely women playing oppression Olympics together then telling each other to come out than a well calculated plot.

Do you honestly wanna see her in jail cause some idiot an heroed? Don't get me wrong, it's sad that he an heroed and her should of called 1-800-Dominos for help with his depression, but if he was that fucked up and ran with that indie crowd some one else in those circles would of got him.

Zoe also doesn't say anything that seems untrue. She never accuses him of rape and weasles how in retrospect because someone she knew rode the #MeToo train, TECHNICALLY her shitty relationship is abuse which is technically sexual abuse because they were sexual which is pretty much rape.

This guy is doing more damage to Zoe by killing himself then he ever would of staying alive continuing to do all the programming work for a bunch of hipster indie faggots and saying "but guys I didn't do it" ever would of. I get why people are emotional and it seems the guy is talented and all, but he chose to kill himself and he chose to hang with shitty exceptional people.

Do you honestly wanna see her in jail cause some idiot an heroed?
Not really. Just overall I dislike her. GamerGate was a prototype for the internet censorship escalation after all.

 

[Dr. Tran]

gamergatehq getting unlocked when?

This 100%, Gamergate HQ was my favorite place to shitpost in before the site went down.

 

[GooglePuppet]

I actually do believe her allegations were, let's call it, "based on a true story". You need to understand one thing about people like Quinn, they don't simply fabricate shit; they weaponize truth, or distort real events to suit themselves. Sure, you can call the act of distortion or weaponization "lying", and it certainly is, but don't mistake it for being completely untruthful because weaponized truth, and half-truth, is far more powerful. Worse, people like Quinn may even believe their own lies, because they're likely to distort their memories, or perception of events, to fit the lie rather than the other way around.

It's pretty common for people with personality disorders -- borderline, bipolar, antisocial -- to end up into kink and BDSM. Especially for the fact a ton of people incorrectly, and dangerously, romanticize kink as a form of therapy to replace professional help. There are a lot of in-roads to it, whether they're trying to self-treat, avoid seeking help or strengthen denial, were talked into it by an abusive partner or trying to internalize and process past trauma, distort self-image or indulge distorted self-image, or as a coping mechanism for trauma-inflicted sexual issues. It's all very complex and interconnected with repetition compulsion and revictimization, too complex for me to be fully equipped to discuss it at length or be willing to do so in a single forum post, but it is what it is.

The problem is, people with untreated personality disorders practicing kink are live hand grenades. Sooner or later it's going off, there ain't a damn thing you can do about it except either jump on it to avoid collateral damage or duck and cover to avoid shrapnel. So you have the bipolar or borderline chick who likes to be hogtied, clamped, spanked until she bleeds, choked, and throat fucked until she pukes all over herself or whatever, great. So what happens when this chick has an episode, gets filled with revulsion for what she not just consented to but probably asked for in the first place, and rationalizes no, that can't be her, she wasn't in the right headspace and never would have consented to that, so clearly it has to be rape!?

And what happens when that chick is surrounded by a hugbox who coddles her, indulges her every whim, and enables her episodes without a single person around to reality check?

That's all before you factor in the fact someone like Quinn is radioactively manipulative and narcissistic, who has clearly learned how to weaponize her own issues for personal gain. Simply practicing kink has horrendous optics, let alone post-#MeToo, let alone within degenerate and double standard-ridden social justice and soy culture. But I have my own thoughts on that of which I have personal experience, that I'll discuss at another time.

I have no doubt the events Quinn described actually happened. I also believe they were almost certainly consensual, if not negotiated, something Quinn either omitted or rationalized out of memory to best-fit her self-perception. In other words, "true enough" to stick when strategically deployed for maximum personal gain.

This is exactly what I think happened. In GamerGate she took advantage of a few a-logs to spin a whole narrative that the entire fucking media industry fell for.

There are pictures of her practicing BDSM online, and considering that Alec had at least one personality disorder, BDSM was probably what originally drew them together. They could both get as kinky as they desired, without judgment or shame, in some weird perceived form of sexual-psychotherapy.

Then Zoë felt like trash (maybe because Alec was making progress and she wasn't), and twisted everything onto him, which is why he felt so betrayed.

It could also explain why Alec was a furfag. He felt like he had no control, due to the nature of his disorder/s, and tried to gain control by "going wild" or some shit.

Good luck finding someone to argue against Zoe on his behalf.
Not even his sister wants to defend him.

Literally read the bottom of my first post dude

 

[FuckingWhiteMale]

As a survivor of abuse, I see this ending one of four ways.

1. Quinn's abusive towards the wrong person, they hulk out and beat the absolute shit out of her/kill her outright.
2. Quinn continues to exploit emotionally vulnerable people, and slowly loses her connections as more and more people wake up to what she's like as a person.
3. Someone with a functioning brain outwits her and brings her down on something like domestic abuse charges.
4. She continues to exploit emotionally vulnerable people from here until she loses all relevancy.

Because that's what Quinn is, at the heart of all this mess. An abusive individual who preys on the emotionally vulnerable.

 

[Rekkington]

LMAO of course. It's the abuse victims fault. Sure, idiot.

Let's shit on all abusive victims because hurr durr Zoe Quinn evil.

Yeah why would a woman ever lie about sex?
Reminder that Kavanaugh got accused by 3 women and 2 of them literally withdrew their claims cause it was proven they were lying and we all just decided to stop talking about that.

 

[Kansha]

WuWu finally chimes in, bitches about law enforcement and makes it about mass shootings for some reason:

Grifters gonna grift.

 

[Clop]

WuWu finally chimes in, bitches about law enforcement and makes it about mass shootings for some reason:

Spoiler: "There is a terrible situation in the game industry that is attracting Gamergaters like flies..."

https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1168510203718971392 (archive.li, WayBack Machine)

Spoiler: Reaction to Brianna Wu's tweets

Maybe it'd be easier to prosecute if the Twitter mob actually told the police anything instead of sentencing everyone in the court of public opinion?

Fucking NAH.

 

[CatharticShitHead]

At the end of the day Patreon is a company, taking action to mitigate risk is nothing out of the ordinary. It's just the point at which cutting their ties with her is less damaging than letting her stay.

Hope springs eternal.

As sad as it is for me to say, Alec's death isn't that big. It's not going to just ruin Zoe's life like an uno reverse card.

What would ruin her life is her saying she lied.

But if she did, she won't admit it. And if she didn't, well we'll never truly know because A) Zoe's a proven liar and B) Alec is dead.

 

[Lemmingwise]

It would also show a fundamental misunderstanding on Saarkesian's part, of what her role in a production like that would be.

Large multi national companies will pay well, to have activist groups give them the mark of approval. eg look at where groups like the NAACP, SPLC, ADL etc get their corporate funding from. If she had set up feminist frequency in the right way, she could have sat back and let the corporate shekels flow in. All she would have had to do was cosy up to the right people, and issue a few press releases saying how the companies were woke AF.

Saarkesian at one stage had the financial resources to staff feminist frequency with people that could have engaged comfortably with large companies, media and corporate relations are genuine skills and you can't just get an unpaid activist intern to do it for you.

I get shit in other threads, for pointing out that woke commentators like Lindsay Ellis, Contrapoints, Dan Olsen etc are actually serious intellects, capable of understanding the subjects they're producing content on. Saarkesian however has an obvious lack of curiosity in what she's talking about, she would just rehash Mcintosh's opinons, and then when she split with him would recycle other peoples commentary without any real level of understanding.

Also she ignored the allegations made against her regarding her fundraising. She probably believed because mainstream media wasn't reporting on them she was safe, and the tard bucks were still rolling in at the time. However anyone in public relations would have told her that if there are allegations like that out there where the public can find them, then the public also need to be easily able to find a convincing denial. (I think there's actually a term for it in the PR world)

I dunno man, Sarkeesian got a lot of corporate funding through highly paid speaking engagements and nearly got some of her stuff into common core, requiring basicly every US student to do excercises related to her work. If that had gone through, all it would have required was writing a textbook and she'd be set for life.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

Every so often in the thread someone should post the picture below so everyone can realize that THIS is the abusive monster who was physically maneuvering a woman the size of Zoe around the house via a six-pack grip.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Every so often in the thread someone should post this picture so everyone can realize that THIS is the abusive monster who was physically maneuvering a woman the size of Zoe around the house via a six-pack grip.

Ewww

 

[George Cuckzunian]

If this is old news, then I apologize; just woke up.

Alec fucking knew this was going to happen, to the point that he was doing DBT along with his medication to prepare.

Prediction of the future:

https://i.imgur.com/J75QRXo.jpg

Talking shit about Zoë as far back as 2013:

https://i.imgur.com/7wejyhb.png

https://i.imgur.com/l3M7TY5.png

In Canada, what she has done is classified (at the bare minimum) as manslaughter. At the most, she could be tried for second-degree murder, if they can prove there was an intent to kill.

• Manslaughter in Canada carries no minimum sentence unless a gun is used (which it wasn't in this case), and the maximum sentence is life.
• Second-Degree Murder in Canada carries a minimum sentence of life in prison, with no parole for 10 years. The maximum sentence is life in prison, with no parole for 25 years.

LOCK THIS CUNT UP!
(press x to doubt anything ever happening because this is Canada we're talking about)

I wanna be not so serious about this. I really do. Even if you legit are seething angry begging for justice, mocking the situation being absurd that Zoe is the REAL victim here is more effective and lulzy for all than raging and spilling spaghetti.

I wanna level with you for a minute.I'm no lawyer, but I've jerked off to a few on TV so basically I am qualified to comment.

1. Zoe is an American under American law. Alec is a Canadian. Canadian law is not going to supersede US law.
2. Unless you have a situation like the case where the guy who killed himself because his GF straight up was texting him and coercing him directly to do it even after he tries to stop.
3. Manslaughter and Second Degree murder are seriously optimistic. Manslaughter is if you accidently run someone down with your car and kill someone without the intent to. Second degree murder is when you kill someone without planning it out but with the intent to do it. The bar for proving intent is high. In a case like this, you'd need hacked DMs that this was a carefully planned and coordinated effort to ruin this guy together, and even then you'd have a better shot nailing them on one of the laws about them going after his employment or libel if you have that and that is a longshot to get because the plaintiff is kinda dead.
4, You also have to prove that Zoe was making it all up and none of it happened. Even if she is exaggerating for victim bux, she's covered under the 1st amendment.

But okay, lets say some how you get conclusive evidence that Zoe and co legit planned this out for the purpose of getting this guy to kill himself knowing that due to his mental issues and poor family relationship he'd KYS

- Unless Alec was married, the only people who can legally press the charges would be the family. Given how the sister is reacting how do you think that's gonna go. I'm shocked they aren't preemptively trying to give Zoe a settlement for Alec embarrassing her with his suicide.
- It's an international case. Unless you can get the criminal system to act (most likely you won't), you'd have to go civil. Zoe doesn't really have money to go after and even if she did the amount of money it would take to get and international civil suit to happen would be massive. It would make the Kick Vic warchest look like a joke.

Personally, I'd rather see people mock this self centered whore rather than seriously rage or drag her through the criminal system. I personally feel being a shit bag online should not be a crime even if it leads to someone killing themselves. It also opens a bag of worms if this becomes serious law. What if one of the indie devs who people say has blood on their hands kills them self? Should the angry people who talked shit to them be held liable?

That said, if you are still seething and raging on the internet isn't enough for you there are other realistic options, but honestly they are kinda gay and you are the same type of person they are for doing it:

- Report her to patreon for knowingly coercing a mentally ill person into suicide with the stuff from him saying in 2016 he felt people were trying to get him to kill himself and in 2013 calling Zoe a pathalogical liar. (This is like crying to the teacher because someone is being too mean, but you have an argument of her breaking TOS not that there is a suicide. Unlikely to do anything but you know Zoe will sperg about it and blame gamergate so it could be funny)
- Figure out and learn how to report her to Canadian imigration so she's denied entry into the country. Given how gay and lame Canada has been lately there is a chance they would not want her in their country over this incident and previous behavior/scams. Honestly this is still a bitch move in my opinion but outrage mobs over this crap got Roosh V banned from England, it'd probably work in Canada.
- Cry to payment processors, web domain hosts, Events she's speaking at, etc. Basically look at anything that ever happened to Null and do it to Zoe with a rage blinded mob. However, to be effective you pretty much gotta have no life and have no self respect.

Basically be a cry baby bitch like Zoe and you'll get SOMEWHERE.

I get the anger. I get the rage. But at the end of the day Alec chose to end things rather than fight it and even if you got what you wanted what change do you think it will make. Reminding people of this every day and spreading the word is more effective than crying to the teacher and demanding the punish the mean person for you.

 

[UY 690]

Might add That Creepy Reading to another list of incel slayer kill count thanks to Zoe Quinn.

This will piss off the horror community for sure.

 

[bbfx]

I actually do believe her allegations were, let's call it, "based on a true story".

I agree with you completely.
You covered the sexual part really well, but I also think that the rest of her allegations (about him being a shitty boyfriend) were somewhat true: I think that Alec was, to some degree, abusive. Everything I've read on him online in these days make him sound like he was in a really bad place at the time of their relationship (which was almost 10 years ago, I believe) and it's not hard to believe he lashed out on her and was a cunt.
I don't think he sexually assaulted her, and probably they just had the bad kind of BDSM you described (mostly due to the fact that both of them were emotionally unstable). I don't think he was physically abusive either. But it's not hard to believe that, on occasion, he was a bad boyfriend. I think he was a bit of an asshole, like many mentally ill people are when they're younger.

But this will haunt her. I can't say if she'll actually feel remorseful for the loss of a persons life but I can guarantee she'll second-guess every bit of pity-baiting she'll be tempted to engage in in the future. There will be no woe-is-me post that can't be answered with "At least you're still alive".

This is really true, too. Her only way to be relevant is to claim she is the perpetual victim of all rape and abuse, and now she can't do it anymore. She has nothing else to contribute to this world, so she'll slowly become irrelevant.