Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Allanon said:
If you get off on forcing women to have sex with you with your power, looks are likely second to the power you enjoy. Also, Monica used to be cuter,
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I think ugly, creepy guys like Harvey Weinstein or Chris Sabat actually enjoy degrading women by forcing them to have sex with someone they find repulsive.
 
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Rondo Richter Belmont said:
Neil “God I wanna snuggle.” Kaplan is indeed on the Broken Staircase List like Niosi, Todd, and Vic are on that piece of shit list~ Even if you found his accusations scoff-worthy, it was pretty goddamn funny watching the fucker go from “IMMA LIE ON VIC AND BOAST ABOUT HOW I ALWAYS HATED HIM, THIS IS MY TRUTH!” to “B-B-BUH THIS IZ A MISUNDERSTANDING, GIMME A BIT TO EXPLAIN MYSELF!” before he slunk away like the feckless maggot he was / is / shall always be from this mess in record time.

You can thank Soye for that.
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I meant Niosi's accusations. I hadn't heard of Neil's, but to be fair I usually couldn't care less about most voice actors, so I don't actively go looking for dirt. Vic and Niosi's accusations were just so loud that I came across them by chance.

AnOminous said:
I think ugly, creepy guys like Harvey Weinstein or Chris Sabat actually enjoy degrading women by forcing them to have sex with someone they find repulsive.
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That's probably true. It likely runs along similar lines as the 'pervy old men' fetish in porn.
 
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TelBranora said:
I have some personal issues relating to groups similar to this where a friend I hadn't spoken to in a long time, ask for help because they are trapped in some nightmare Orwellian friend group clique where the wrong post online when you wake up can DESTROY EVERYTHING. Of course, with the power of social media, they all project cute imagery of them all being happy together playing video games and taking selfies various places. I'm sure they would project that if you met them as an outsider in person too.
It turned out that the two most influential people in that group (there was about 10 members, plus a handful of orbiters) had some really horrible and bizarre skeletons in the closet, fueled by general hatred and perversion.
Not going to expound any more than I need to because I'm not going to blab about things my friend told me privately or powerlevel. It's just an interesting example that comes to my mind quickly about cursed social interaction.
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Your friend managed to get out though, right?
 
Allanon said:
I meant Niosi's accusations. I hadn't heard of Neil's, but to be fair I usually couldn't care less about most voice actors, so I don't actively go looking for dirt. Vic and Niosi's accusations were just so loud that I came across them by chance.



That's probably true. It likely runs along similar lines as the 'pervy old men' fetish in porn.
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Ahh, my mistake I thought you meant Neil and I apologize for the autism.

As for Niosi, last time I checked he did admit some of it was true and apologized for his actions;him being let go from FE:Three Houses was more of the NDA being violated, which is why Christina Vee had been replaced by Tara Platt as Edelgard because she fucked up like Niosi.
 
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Legioneer said:
The simple answer is because they're all incompetent. That is, they do not know what professionalism and business ethics are. This is confirmed by the affidavits of Chuck Huber and Vic. There is a small clique around Sabat and Real in the company. But Chris Sabat feels so comfortable and has been able to accumulate such influence, because it is a general principle of the company. See "Den of Poison," "Kafka Nightmare," and "Orwellian Slave Factory."
In other words, it is described as follows: there is no such thing as "company interests", there are only interests of certain groups and the struggle for influence. Game of thrones ) The company is nothing more than a tool.
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Honestly that's the most hilarious thing about this whole situation, funimation's sheer inability to have any form of self-reflection. The whole reason no one was willing to believe anything regarding Vic's HR investigation was the fact no-one can point to a time funimation didn't fuck-up. Hell, Sony bought them for over 150 million dollars, and they couldn't even improve their company with that big of an investment, they just kept doing the same shit.
 
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WarJams said:
Women who enjoy Rumiko Takahashi works are a little red flag to me. Men who enjoy it are a MAJOR red flag.
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HTTP Error 404 said:
Waid actually can't use the TCPA. His fucking around ran the clock out on it as of ~30 hours ago, from what I understand.

And Nick heavily hinted on Twitter that Lady Rackets said he could go, so ... he's apparently going to be there on Friday.
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Wait, what? He was doing jurisdiction so long he lost that option? What the fuck? lol. So if he loses jurisdiction, that was all for fucking nothing. I'm not a lawyer, but that seems like a terrible fucking legal strategy. Fuck around just long enough, drop it, TCPA him to try and bleed him. But now he can't even do that. Oh well.
 
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P5Fever said:
I can PROUDLY say that while I am autistic and love Inuyasha, even my autism has standards. And I’d Minecraft myself before ever even touching anything furry.
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Oh, I know. It's not a cause or a symptom, just a common pattern. Steven Universe OCs, that however is a big fuckin' red flag.

Secret Asshole said:
Wait, what? He was doing jurisdiction so long he lost that option? What the fuck? lol. So if he loses jurisdiction, that was all for fucking nothing. I'm not a lawyer, but that seems like a terrible fucking legal strategy. Fuck around just long enough, drop it, TCPA him to try and bleed him. But now he can't even do that. Oh well.
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IANAL but it looks like they played stupid games and may have won stupid prizes.
 
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P5Fever said:
I can PROUDLY say that while I am autistic and love Inuyasha, even my autism has standards. And I’d Minecraft myself before ever even touching anything furry.
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Most people draw the furry line past nekomimi or whatever it is they're called anyway. I thought both genders tended to like Rumiko's work, though. Inuyasha is a romance isekai with a ton of action, and Ranma 1/2 is an action romcom. As are her other notable works. I've never heard any negative fandom inferences from them, aside from a few toxic ship wars.
 
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Hallstein995 said:
I'm going to need the context of this full thread before I way in, but by God does she sound like Trump. Every single one of her tweets come across as delusional and egocentric.
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Some people can be very easily short circuited by establishing something like a loyal liberal reddit account, and then accuse their SJW post history of being too much like Trump. It only works a few times before they band together for backup as they do, and establish what is wrong with you and why your comments should therefore be disregarded or mocked from now on.
A respectful and logical PM discussion is probably the best way to get through to the average social justice warrior if one was inclined to do so, except most of them are too full of fear to talk on their own in unfamiliar territory with a person who says things they don't have an accepted memorized response too.
In person that translates as a blank stare, and it has a lot of fear underneath it while they think of a way to feel comfortably numb and safe again. Unless that person is so well trained, or such a prideful soldier high off their own opinions that it immediately manifests as anger.

People in western society seem very deeply fearful in general right now. I almost cried when Vic was repeating how people are terrified... to reach out and touch another human, and how human contact is important and all that.

Personally I believe pure love cannot exist in someone's mind at the same time as fear. So it could be the lack of love that started it, but who knows.

All I know for sure is that twitter really hurts to read and that I'm not sure if Marchi or Ron "Do you know who my fiancee is!!??" Toye is more egocentric.
 
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FluffyTet said:
Oh, I know. It's not a cause or a symptom, just a common pattern. Steven Universe OCs, that however is a big fuckin' red flag.
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Honestly the idea of SJWs loving anything made by Rumiko Takahashi is hilarious considering how insanely politically incorrect her stuff is. She is very proud of sexualizing her female characters to the most ridiculous degrees it’s downright comical...also she loves perverts, and in Inuyasha the only major gay character was a villain who was a homicidal maniac.

She’s also an absolute sped and I love her for it.

Then again 99.9999 % of anime is politically incorrect to the West and yet these people cling to it for some reason.
 
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Title is a bit clickbait, but it makes you think. These are subjects that probably would have been censored under normal circumstances at the Reddit hugbox. Makes ignorant old me wonder if there's actually a legal explanation for this.

Secret Asshole said:
I enjoy the art style a lot, which is extremely varied compared to Western animation, which outside of the 1980s, has generally stuck to a very crude, bland, non-detailed style. Also most Western animation only falls into 2 groups: Children and Adult Comedy. There's really not much choice there.

So I say I'm a fan because I've loved it since Record of Lodoss War, Project Ako, Macross, Ghost in the Shell, Akira (I must have seen this when I was like fucking 10), Vampire Hunter D....etc. I could never gel with American voices. They were also so fucking bad, they didn't really seem to treat it seriously. Way different from Japanese voice actors. I mean when I was a kid, I had to hunt VHS tapes in stores and rental places for anything. There was literally nothing back then to guide you on what was good. Also good luck on trying to collect a whole series. That was a bitch.

She thinks its good because she's delusional. She's being reinforced by Twitter and by people who only agree with her. There's nothing outside of her bubble. Reality doesn't care about 'her truth'. In reality, I wouldn't be surprised if she was dead in the industry. Nobody wants a toxic cunt running around telling stories 20 years later. She doesn't have anybody. The only people she has are the very few sycophants who will forget her name when the case is over, and her inner circle who will likely never work in dubbing again after the Funi scandal.

Our camp grows because we can see the situation for ourselves. I mean, isn't it obvious? Just think about the case, logically:

1) Vic was unknown nearly to everyone on this forum, even those who watched Anime. I love me my Jojo, and I had no idea he was in it. Even if you listen to dubs, I highly doubt you can name the voice actor unless you're really hardcore about the character and that's a fraction. Nobody is going to know this guy except if he works local and the Starbucks barista recognizes him as the guy who 'makes Chinese cartoons'. Its not possible to view him as a celebrity. As a celebrity compared to normies? Sure. A celebrity among normies? Fuck no. Not even one among anime fans. Don't care what the court rules, no fucking way he's a public figure.

2) These 'traumatizing' allegations are decades old. The only evidence we have of them is a contradictory statement by the 'victim' and not a single, solitary police report, not any written disciplinary action, nothing. These traumatizing allegations just so happened to coincide with Vic possibly landing a directing job and the biggest opening for an anime, ever, in the US.

3) If he's attended cons with hundreds of people, why are there conflicting affidavits? If he is so sexually aggressive, why is there not one police report? I've known cases where men were sexually agressive and that shit got reported, constantly. These people had records. Not Vic. There's not a single, solitary picture in this age of a recording device on every living being, on every building and in every hallway? Not possible. The most autistic among us would have long since dug up any dirt and if he was what they say, we would have torn his spaghetti nigger ass to pieces. For fun, of course. Nothing like a little chaos for us Kiwis. We'd probably (God help us) hand that shit over to Lemoine. But here's the thing. We haven't. found. a. thing. Nothing. Nothing but vague rumors on a gossip forum. Nothing, but accusations with no proof. Why is there nothing? The truth is because there's nothing there. Vic is a handsome man. Most people weren't traumatized. Maybe uncomfortable. But making someone uncomfortable is not sexual assault, not in the eyes of the courts or public opinion of the sane.

4) Funimation has revealed itself to be an unprofessional organization run by hypocrites and a possible rapist. Its CEO lets its employees do whatever they want and has very little interest in equitable treatment. One of their own runs a casting couch. For all their complaints of harassment, they've run extremely inappropriate skits with IP they do not own. Vic got fired for a jellybean, trying to have a threesome with no one who ever reported him and allegedly pulling hair in a lobby a decade ago. Now we have affidavits sexual jokes, sexual relationships and all sorts of inappropriate behavior was common. Why was Vic singled out? Why wasn't any other male implicated if this was common?

The results don't add up to Vic doing anything worse than any of the others did. The answer is extremely, extremely simple. Vic is a good-looking man. He has the wrong politics. He has the wrong religion. He doesn't keep the right friends. He didn't kiss Sabat's ring, made a lot of money, and was in danger of threatening Sabat's hold on the studio with a director position. So there was a monetary danger. There was jealousy. And they just did not fucking like him. So he had to go.

They stabbed him in the back and thought he wouldn't resist. He did. Now its all falling apart. Their reputations are in shambles, their company is in shambles, they are most likely suffering financially. Vic can lose right now. He can lose the case this very second. It no longer matters. Ty can sleep easy knowing he fulfilled his promise to Vic's mom.

Vic, in every respect, has already won. The people who destroyed him have been exposed. Their company will never, ever be the same. Its been revealed that they're abusers themselves, disrespectful of properties they don't own. Their word has been shown to be worth absolutely nothing and no one will ever trust them again in business. His support base has grown exponentially. Theirs, if they ever had one, will move on and forget they ever existed in a few months, moving on to the next outrage of the week to get their dopamine high from.

In my mind, the war is over. The result is decided. There's only the matter now of how big of a victory it will be.



People who say: "ONLY THE TRUE FANS SUPPORT ME" are losing. Its because they no longer have any sort of majority and are in the minority and are desperate to cling to any support they have. If you have mobs of people supporting you, you don't need to say it. You can see it. The reason why she's saying it, is that she doesn't see it because its not there. And she's doing anything she can to get any more people over to her side.
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Wait, I have an extremely stupid question. Vic is Italian right? Because "spaghetti nigger" as you put it. Apologies for useless autism.

It's hard for me to be callous currently due to situationally depressing circumstances, so as a mostly casual observer of this topic, I really wanted to emphasize that this kind of stuff legitimately keeps me optimistic about humanity. Been observing lately that some of the exceptional autistic people here are quite honestly some of the most overly empathetic people I'm aware of and not specifically friends with. For all the inconsistency in life that nobody really deserves to put up with, there are people who even if they don't say they truly care, they in fact go above and beyond to promote human understanding. As someone who grew up with autism, you could say it's an inspiration or uplifting in a way given there's a stereotype that such people are emotionally impaired.

Or I'm just delusional and simply happy that this specific case of hypocrisy has autistic people who stubbornly hate it not being pointed out. Carry on either way.
 
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Wait, what? He was doing jurisdiction so long he lost that option? What the fuck? lol. So if he loses jurisdiction, that was all for fucking nothing. I'm not a lawyer, but that seems like a terrible fucking legal strategy. Fuck around just long enough, drop it, TCPA him to try and bleed him. But now he can't even do that. Oh well.
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They had the jurisdiction fight twice. It was sent to a magistrate, the magistrate needed a few things, boom new jurisdiction fight.

Waid is screwed when the jurisdiction stuff is finished.
 
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