Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[Imperial Agent]

You're not discussing anything. You've been running around in circles over the notary stuff for hours. We still have yet to have all relevant info.

I say she's "fueling the opposition" as I agreed with the sentiment of another poster. Obviously this isn't the courtroom, neither is Twitter or Nick's streams. But those all go back to the idea that Vic's rep is being fought for outside of the courtroom as well.

And my main point is that if she is so concerned about the supposed fraud that everyone is sperging about then she should be telling this to Vic who she has a direct line for and whose livelihood this actually depends on. Like I hope she's feeding the feeders here and telling Vic her worries.

Not sure what you consider "running around in circles" but we learned the Notary was at issue, saw the e-mails from both side regarding it, reviewed applicable Notary expectations, and learned that Ty likely did falsify the Notary as alleged.

If discovering new information, breaking it down, and speculating about it's impact for case and relevant parties is "running in circles" I'm not sure what you're expecting to get from a public forum.

And yeah, everyone is well aware of Vic's situation, there are allegations on both sides, if you want a hugbox there are plenty of places to find them. This isn't an exclusively pro-Vic or pro-Vic's attorney of record thread. If we don't discuss things frankly and openly, there's no point as all the feedback would be neutered beyond use.

 

[Duke-Diggler]

Yeah. The sloppiness of the filing is indicative of it being rushed. This feels like a "too busy to handle everything" situation.

Over the last month, Ty has mentioned around 3-4 cases he's been on, plus he's been in court a few days. That alone is enough to fill the 30-odd days he had between the agreements and Aug 31st, before you add in anything else like traveling to cons.

I get the feeling that in a normal case the leeway each side gets to file and re-file, to supplement or correct your pleading, means that these kind of rushed documents don't matter too much. SOP could be to evolve the suit multiple times without anyone throwing a fit. Things like not having Marchi's tweets until yesterday's revised petition are legally fine, as long as they're added before the ruling. So Ty is probably used to that pace and the "extra time" the e-file system grants.

But in this case, we have two groups of autists (KF and LawTwitter) scrutinizing everything, plus a raging one-lunged lawyer who's shown he will jump at any technicality to try and cause trouble. BHBH should have tightened up their game. Not just to look good, but to avoid stupid-yet-proper filings like today's which will muddy the waters of their legal argument.

Like Nick said, you need to keep the judge on point to remind them the proper use of the TCPA, and getting bogged down in a fight over notary fraud (of all the fucking things) is an unforced error.

Do you think Ty will have sanctions being put on him by Chupp if that's the case? As much as I don't want that smug cuck lightyear to dance around in victory, I can see that Ty had made a very big mistake in the filings.

What else may happen. I may be a naiive optimist, but I do hope Chupp could at least accept the retraction of the affidavits.

 

[MagicalHopStep]

I've been wondering this for a while, but why is this thread HERE, and not in the Weeb Wars section? O_o

 

[quickthrowaway]

I'm afraid you've misunderstood my post if that's the conclusion you've come to.
I spoke with Vic about the unsworn declaration I made. We then realised that we had received conflicting stories from Ty about its inclusion in the filing.

You've misunderstood my post as well. And I'll apologize on my part as I meant to type "if you're just posting here". I asked if you had told Vic about the recent notary stuff people are talking about, i.e. not your specific communication with Ty but the idea that he might have committed fraud with the other affidavits.

As for everyone else. I'll refer back to my post that I never told EriMin to not post here. She and everyone else is allowed to talk about as much you want. My specific criticism were specifically meant for her and this is why I specifically quoted her. Just like you think that what you're discussing is warranted, I also have the ability to criticize that many are going in circles till more info drops. But that and my qualms with her are separate issues.

 

[lolwatagain]

The really stupid thing about this is that you don't need to notarize any affidavits. You just need to write:

"I declare (or certify, verify, or state) under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America/the State of Texas that the foregoing is true and correct. Executed on (date).
(Signature)”.

I have yet to encounter any affidavits that have been notarized in practice. Everyone from solo practitioners to large firms just has the signatory sign under penalty of perjury. And they're rarely wet signed too.

 

[fat ugly sped]

It's possible that Judge Chupp won't strike anything at all. And he will simply evaluate the main stages, as they are laid out by BHBH.
Again, it's too early for KickVic to celebrate, because I don't know in which universe their affidavits will stand, and the plaintiff's affidavits will be striken. And if they don't, their chances suck.
If Judge Chupp struck everything both for the plaintiff and for the defendants, then the defendants could breathe more freely and maybe open a small bottle of champagne.

That's definitely possible. Remember, judges hate getting their rulings appealed. So, if Judge Chupp has a very strong suspicion that he'll rule for the plaintiffs at TCPA, what's the least appeal-able way to do so? Let the defendants get away with procedural bullshittery that lets the plaintiff appeal, then make the plaintiff's appeal moot by ruling for them on the merits anyhow.

 

[BlehFail.451]

You've misunderstood my post as well. And I'll apologize on my part as I meant to type "if you're just posting here". I asked if you had told Vic about the recent notary stuff people are talking about, i.e. not your specific communication with Ty but the idea that he might have committed fraud with the other affidavits.

As for everyone else. I'll refer back to my post that I never told EriMin to not post here. She and everyone else is allowed to talk about as much you want. My specific criticism were specifically meant for her and this is why I specifically quoted her. Just like you think that what you're discussing is warranted, I also have the ability to criticize that many are going in circles till more info drops. But that and my qualms with her are separate issues.

I don't think she commented on the supposed fraud or whatever at all. She was merely bringing up another potential inconsistency she stumbled across. As in they were 2 unrelated instances.

 

[EriMin]

You've misunderstood my post as well. And I'll apologize on my part as I meant to type "if you're just posting here". I asked if you had told Vic about the recent notary stuff people are talking about, i.e. not your specific communication with Ty but the idea that he might have committed fraud with the other affidavits.

As for everyone else. I'll refer back to my post that I never told EriMin to not post here. She and everyone else is allowed to talk about as much you want. My specific criticism were specifically meant for her and this is why I specifically quoted her. Just like you think that what you're discussing is warranted, I also have the ability to criticize that many are going in circles till more info drops. But that and my qualms with her are separate issues.

Thank you for the clarification, it helped.
To answer your question, no I do not talk to Vic about the case unless he initiates the conversation. He is under an insane amount of pressure and the last thing I want to do is add to that burden. I also believe that Svetlana is the one in charge of keeping him up to date on relevant information about the case. I imagine if she feels he needs to know then she will tell him.

 

[Legioneer]

You've misunderstood my post as well. And I'll apologize on my part as I meant to type "if you're just posting here". I asked if you had told Vic about the recent notary stuff people are talking about, i.e. not your specific communication with Ty but the idea that he might have committed fraud with the other affidavits.

As for everyone else. I'll refer back to my post that I never told EriMin to not post here. She and everyone else is allowed to talk about as much you want. My specific criticism were specifically meant for her and this is why I specifically quoted her. Just like you think that what you're discussing is warranted, I also have the ability to criticize that many are going in circles till more info drops. But that and my qualms with her are separate issues.

I think it's safe for us to close this case and get back to Vic's case.

In this small case, everyone misunderstood everyone. And the point was that Erica, unlike most people here, has a very high power level. I think everyone understands each other now and we can go back to the main topic.

 

[EriMin]

I think it's safe for us to close this case and get back to Vic's case.

In this small case, everyone misunderstood everyone. And the point was that Erica, unlike most people here, has a very high power level. I think everyone understands each other now and we can go back to the main topic.

>.> sorry to derail again but what does "has a very high power level" mean? I've seen it posted at the bottom of all the pages but I'm still a bit unclear about it.

 

[Adach_Ame]

I've been wondering this for a while, but why is this thread HERE, and not in the Weeb Wars section? O_o

This is where ALL the OFFICIAL Docs are posted and talked about. For better organization

>.> sorry to derail again but what does "has a very high power level" mean? I've seen it posted at the bottom of all the pages but I'm still a bit unclear about it.

In short, do not try to power play your position no matter your belief. At the end of the day, kiwi farmers, we laugh at people who do that. It's mainly branching slightly into the lolcows that are laughed at. Try stay more or less modest in that regard, and I think you will do fine here.

 

[ES 195]

>.> sorry to derail again but what does "has a very high power level" mean? I've seen it posted at the bottom of all the pages but I'm still a bit unclear about it.

It just means revealing a lot about yourself or bragging that you know a lot on a subject.
I don't think you have to worry too much since we're expecting you to "powerlevel" about the goings-on.

 

[Imperial Agent]

>.> sorry to derail again but what does "has a very high power level" mean? I've seen it posted at the bottom of all the pages but I'm still a bit unclear about it.

He's using it in a different sense that the webpage disclaimers do.

Power leveling is when you disclose personal information, especially information that could be used to dox you, in an attempt to gain points. Like: "I know because my dad works for Nintendo."

I think he was just getting at your general status in relation to Vic and case relevance.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

I've been wondering this for a while, but why is this thread HERE, and not in the Weeb Wars section? O_o

Because this is where court cases are discussed.

 

[Duke-Diggler]

Yeah, this is a bridge too far for me to take on good faith.

It’s either an integrity issue (doesn’t take the Notary Oath of Office seriously, if y’all don’t care about that more power to you, but I personally care if my lawyers takes their oaths seriously) or a competency issue (somehow didn’t understand the straight forward Notary rules?) or both.

Did he lose the case? No. Does it still matter? It does to me, and very well could matter to the judge.

I’ve given Ty and Co. the benefit of the doubt on everything up until this point, this definitely will leave me wary in the future.

What do you suppose would be going down in the hearings? I may be naiive in hoping that at least Chupp accepts the retraction of the affidavits, hopeful still that he would even accept an amended one. But if the mistake warrants a fraud, then Ty may be treading really dangerous waters. I knew this won't be a cakewalk, and I kinda expected ty to make a mistake, but that seems to be a large mistake.

Will it also affect TCPA's and have TY sanctioned? As much as I don't want these smug fuckers on twitter dance around with that idea, a lot of people on the farms do support this outcome.

 

[EriMin]

In short, do not try to power play your position no matter your position. At the end of the day, kiwi farmers, we laugh at people who do that. It's mainly branching slightly into the lolcows that are laughed at.

Ahh, ok. I see what you mean. Well then, I redact my statement about being closer to this story than most people and simply submit the irregularity of the communication between Vic, Ty, and I.

Sorry, I didn't realize that I was infringing on a rule.

 

[Adach_Ame]

Ahh, ok. I see what you mean. Well then, I redact my statement about being closer to this story than most people and simply submit the irregularity of the communication between Vic, Ty, and I.

Sorry, I didn't realize that I was I fringing on a rule.

It's cool. Just try to stay modest in that regard, and I believe you will be pretty fine around here keeping that in mind. But you don't have to be too hard on yourself. You are NO WHERE near the hilarity of the chair abuser in that. Just pointing it out for future references, to keep in mind.

 

[Laundui_or_douchette?]

Because this is where court cases are discussed.

Have they seen the Weeb Wars thread? There is 10 pages dedicated to some obscure Anime from the 90’s, and nothing of relevance was lost in there.

 

[Garm]

This is where ALL the OFFICIAL Docs are posted and talked about. For better organization

It is slightly annoying to try to get to the Weeb Wars board from Lolcow & Lolcow LLP.

I suppose there is an easier way that the veteran Kiwi's navigate between the two boards.

You guys have a system. Stick to your system.

 

[10SorrowfulObject]

I'm not sure how you can think Vic's case is totally dead on the merits, he arguably has Ron/Monica pretty dead to rights on the TI claim.

TI with Existing Contract: I don't see the existing contracts specifically listed.
TI with Prospective Relations: There's no underlying tort that I still see viable. Vic hasn't came up with anything that's close to clear and specific evidence that Ron or Monica knew the allegations were false. That'd be something like "Yeah, I knew they were false and I said them anyway" (That's not the standard required to survive TCPA dismissal, but that's ultimately what Vic will need to provide)