Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

Soviras said:
Funimation doesn't really have that many options, their money isn't their own.
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A lawsuit alone is hardly that expensive. Even if you sue for years, the cost is unlikely to be greater than $1 million.
It seems to me that closing Funimation is more expensive. How much is there, 166 million dollars in capitalization?
Firing everyone without explanation is not the perfect solution either.

In the situation, if there was only a lawsuit and no fuss on the Internet, there would be only two options in my opinion. Either to sue to the end, or to fire all the employees involved, to carry out the maximum cleaning of the ranks in combination with a public apology and by doing so saving the company itself (a legal entity).
Both options are problematic and not so cheap. The more scandals and hype there are in the media, the more weight will be given to the second option (mass dismissals and maximum disclosure).

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Forgot the third option. Offer money to Vic without disclosing the details of the agreement. But I don't think Vic would agree to that.
 
I know they blocked off most of the day for this hearing, but does anyone know the exact time the hearing starts tomorrow?
 
solidcloud said:
Would Funimation be more likely to settle, or appeal if they happen to lose their TCPA case?
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Depends on the terms, but they would definitely have talks about settlement if they lost tcpa. The appeal would be costly and likely not worth it for them, they don't have the money for litigation and further bad press on this.
 
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This wasn't posted here yet but I find it interesting. Monica sorta confirmed the "casting couch" story. Not sure how this will help vic but I guess it makes Huck's statements look a bit more credible.
 

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murdered meat bag said:
yeah but if vic wins, we can always point to vic and say " look it only took 1 person to get the ball rolling to ruin a man's life" "corporate investigations are worhtless if we cant see them." etc whenever the next zoe quinn accuses someone.
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You actually think they *did* an investigation?

But yeah, I think if Vic wins, it would *hopefully* have an effect on the decisions that a company makes when dealing with this kind of situation, but if it's all behind closed doors...

The biggest question I have is if Vic would be able to resume his voice acting normally, or if it would be kind of weird.
 
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It doesn’t matter if Vic wins. They have already been exposed as such. Sabat’s Funimation Casting Couch is now a thing. It is now out in the public air how horrible a place Funi is. From Colleen Klinkenbeards description of her first job being edited into porn by Sabat, to Huber and Ayers admissions as to the climate, to the infamous audio leaks showing what they do at work. RonRon is now publicly known as a violent serial wife beater and complete psychotic. All the skeletons in their closets have been daylighted.
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ALL?

hahahahahhahahaha

Not even close. This is the surface level shit that they haven't tried to hide. The skeletons? Those are still coming.
 
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Do they have to wait for trial to force the investigation out? How come Funimation or Jamie weren't deposed, or provide anything in discovery? I feel like the results of the investigation would be pretty important to build the case against them.
 
Sheryl Nome said:
The whole point of asking for a million dollars in damages is that he will not be able to resume that normal, no matter what.
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Oh yeah, I know that his relationship with Funimation is completely ruined, but I'm not sure if he could get any more work at other places (not necessarily anime related), without it being super weird.
 
Vecr said:
Oh yeah, I know that his relationship with Funimation is completely ruined, but I'm not sure if he could get any more work at other places (not necessarily anime related), without it being super weird.
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Funimation as far as i can tell was his MAIN gig in the industry so with them gone he inevitably has less than before
 
Legioneer said:
A lawsuit alone is hardly that expensive. Even if you sue for years, the cost is unlikely to be greater than $1 million.
It seems to me that closing Funimation is more expensive. How much is there, 166 million dollars in capitalization?
Firing everyone without explanation is not the perfect solution either.

In the situation, if there was only a lawsuit and no fuss on the Internet, there would be only two options in my opinion. Either to sue to the end, or to fire all the employees involved, to carry out the maximum cleaning of the ranks in combination with a public apology and by doing so saving the company itself (a legal entity).
Both options are problematic and not so cheap. The more scandals and hype there are in the media, the more weight will be given to the second option (mass dismissals and maximum disclosure).

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Forgot the third option. Offer money to Vic without disclosing the details of the agreement. But I don't think Vic would agree to that.
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A little addition. I'm not saying that if Funimation wins TCPA, they're not quietly shutting down further relationships with certain people in their own interest. They will almost certainly do so.
But it will no longer be directly relevant to the case.

So it's only about how Sony can take Vic's side in the court and conduct a thorough investigation of the whole mess in Funimation. And by doing this, Sony can really save itself a lot of money and even earn a lot of PR points. They bought the company recently, they did not know what was going on there.

Sony employees are only involved with what happened to Vic and did not participate in Sabat's casting couch and other scams. For such cooperation and the opportunity to participate in future projects, Vic will naturally forgive Sony all the money they owe him ))
 
CuntBusterMan55 said:
This wasn't posted here yet but I find it interesting. Monica sorta confirmed the "casting couch" story. Not sure how this will help vic but I guess it makes Huck's statements look a bit more credible.
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I wouldn't trust that screenshot. Monica's a big fat fucking idiot, but even big fat fucking idiots aren't that fucking idiotic.

solidcloud said:
Do they have to wait for trial to force the investigation out? How come Funimation or Jamie weren't deposed, or provide anything in discovery? I feel like the results of the investigation would be pretty important to build the case against them.
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They all were playing bullshit discovery games. They refused to respond to discovery, bullshitted what they did respond with, and then filed the TCPA which is like a big ol' pause button on the trial. We have upwards of another month before we can get back to them refusing to respond to discovery and playing bullshit discovery games.
 
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Legioneer said:
A lawsuit alone is hardly that expensive. Even if you sue for years, the cost is unlikely to be greater than $1 million.
It seems to me that closing Funimation is more expensive. How much is there, 166 million dollars in capitalization?
Firing everyone without explanation is not the perfect solution either.
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Closing the company is actually dirt cheap. Sony can just move all assets to themselves or a different subsidiary and keep fulfilling the same contracts without the extra costs and risks that Funimation brings. They already have their own studios, the only reason they went for Funimation at all were the assets and contracts. Also don't forget, the costs of a lawsuit aren't just the direct costs. Lost hours, lost reputation, lost revenue and lost contracts tend to be common extra costs. If Toei were to cancel their contract with Funimation because of the leaked info that wouldn't have seen the light of day without the lawsuit, how much do you think that costs them in lost revenue and reputation? When bad things come out during a lawsuit, especially for a company, the costs are extremely high.
 
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Soviras said:
Closing the company is actually dirt cheap. Sony can just move all assets to themselves or a different subsidiary and keep fulfilling the same contracts without the extra costs and risks that Funimation brings. They already have their own studios, the only reason they went for Funimation at all were the assets and contracts. Also don't forget, the costs of a lawsuit aren't just the direct costs. Lost hours, lost reputation, lost revenue and lost contracts tend to be common extra costs. If Toei were to cancel their contract with Funimation because of the leaked info that wouldn't have seen the light of day without the lawsuit, how much do you think that costs them in lost revenue and reputation? When bad things come out during a lawsuit, especially for a company, the costs are extremely high.
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Still, you have to admit, this isn' t enough. If they really want to save money, it's highly desirable for them to get the fans back into the one group.
As practice has shown, gathering them around Monica, Chris, and Jamie doesn't work. They can now guess that gathering them around Vic, cleaning his reputation and taking him back might be a much better idea. They have every opportunity to do so.
They just need to cooperate with the court as much as possible. Provide the court with all the relevant internal chats of the company etc. In the end, they won't even get lawsuits from Sabat, Jamie, Monica and others. And they won't get a furious attack from the fans. If they fire them all even without any explanation and the reasons come out in the court records.

I know it's very optimistic. But Kiwi can hope!
 
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Vecr said:
You actually think they *did* an investigation?

But yeah, I think if Vic wins, it would *hopefully* have an effect on the decisions that a company makes when dealing with this kind of situation, but if it's all behind closed doors..
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oh i dont believe they did any investigating.

but they said they did and the bereve all women crowd repeats it.

now when i say "funimation lied about investigating vic, why wouldnt the night in the woods company lie also?"
 
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