Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

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Except the tweets she made during the time she was at Alec's place she showed that she was absolutely "happy" and portrayed the entire thing as two love birds. They were posted up then taken down after @Absolved Mediocrity contacted the RCMP.

She could easily say she was pretending to be happy because Alec was reading her twitter.

A court case is the best thing that would happen to her since Gamergate. She could write another whole book about it, and people might buy it this time.
 
She could easily say she was pretending to be happy because Alec was reading her twitter.

A court case is the best thing that would happen to her since Gamergate. She could write another whole book about it, and people might buy it this time.

She could and it would be perjury since Alec was party to that conversation. Then there is the matter of all the witnesses at the house that saw everything go down as reported further back in the thread.
 
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I don't know if I'm late for the party for this. Remember that Kymberlie Harris woman who posted a review on Zoe Quinn's book and later was edited out and turns out to be her mother? I was browsing the white pages. I don't know if it's a match or not, but it suspiciously looks like one. And Chelsea's middle name starts with a 'E'.
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I didn't see this posted already, so if it has, too bad.

Walking White Human Penis Cory Doctorow chimes in on the beauty of grave dancing
/ CORY DOCTOROW / 9:33 AM FRI SEP 6, 2019

Gaming's #MeToo moment: male fragility versus women's fundamental rights




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The latest turn in the Gamergate sage: Zoe Quinn (previously) outed their former partner, game dev Alec Holowka as a sexual and emotional abuser, which prompted others to come forward with their own stories of abuse at Holowka's hands, which led to Howalka being kicked out of his Night in the Woods game project -- and shortly thereafter, Howalka committed suicide.

Though Howalka made a point of telling people not to blame Quinn or the other women who came forward for his death, the shitty men of Gamergate -- who already consider Quinn to be the living embodiment of the antichrist -- launched a campaign of terror and harassment so extreme that Quinn has resigned from Twitter.
Central to Gamergate's indictment of Quinn is that she should have given more considerations to Howalka's emotional health before coming forward to reveal the ways he'd abused her.
Laurie Penny (previously) reaffirms her status as a national treasure in herWired op-ed on the matter, pointing out the asymmetry of this concern for male fragility, and how it never extends to an equivalent concern for the much more severe emotional, physical and economic toll born by women who survive the abuse doled out by these broken men.
And the men are broken: toxic masculinity is a thing. Hurt people hurt people. Trauma, not contagion, is the source of radicalization. Any solution to sexism and misogyny will involve helping men as well as women, because men, not women, are the primary reservoirs of misogyny.
Penny's trademark is empathy without sympathy: understanding the forces that lead to people doing terrible things without letting people off the hook for their terrible choices. She's in perfect form in this essay.
Here’s a thought: What if people started thinking about the effect on victims’ mental health before they make the decision to abuse, bully, and rape? Women in games—like women in entertainment, politics, journalism, and every other industry that has been shaken by #MeToo allegations—have learned not to speak about our exhaustion, our pain and trauma. We have learned to come across as carefully neutral, as endlessly reasonable, to hide the depression, the fear, the anxiety. For every man whose behavior has been excused because of his mental health problems, there are countless women and queer people whose mental health problems have been weaponized against them, to dismiss what they say. The risk that male violence poses to women’s mental health—women who have been harassed or assaulted are far more likely to be diagnosed with anxiety, depression, and post-traumatic stress disorder, and up to 13 percent of rape victims attempt suicide—is not considered worthy of comment.
This is what happens within industries where men have most of the power and seniority—and, crucially, it is also how male power perpetuates. Women quietly drop out of professions and workplaces where they are routinely hurt, demeaned, and isolated. The damage is borne in private by the victims themselves, and by networks of women doing the emotional deep-cleaning so that men don’t have to be confronted with the damage they’ve done.
Gaming's #MeToo Moment and the Tyranny of Male Fragility [Laurie Penny/Wired]
(Image: Molly Crabapple)

Anyone want to accuse Cory of being a molester? Maybe a Pedophile? He seems like he needs that kind of "grounding".
 
Hi all, long time lurker just decided to join up to reply to this,
@Absolved Mediocrity ,I just wanted to check that you know/remember that Kyle Pulver is one of the original 5 guys that Zoe was cheating on Eron with?. As you didn't mention it as far as i'm aware but i'm still catching up on the last few days.

Now for some speculation: If Kyle was living with Alec, maybe there was already something going on between Zoe and Kyle which could be a possible factor in Zoe and Alecs arguments and be one of the reasons Zoe was lying to Alec a lot at the time.

He wasn't one of the original 5 guys.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190907045807/https:/twitter.com/eron_gj/status/525059403326566400
 
And if people want to respect the dead, realize 3 things that Alec would never want to happen from this situation:

1. Gamergate 2
2. People not believing other women because of ZQ
3. Putting someone he believed needs serious mental help in prison.

Whether or not people agree with those beliefs...I feel like they should be stated.

Women don't go to jail for this stuff in Canada anyway. The legal system is very stacked against dudes, which is
why it's more messed up they did not go to the police. There's no limit and it's on the defendant to prove he didn't do it.

I'm not sure, but I think this is the most retarded thing I've ever read on the internet. I'm old enough to remember usenet, though, so it would take a while to check.

Rule of law is a thing.
Due process is a thing.
Presumption of innocence is a thing.

Do you not understand how these work?

Edit: More to the point, Do you not understand why they need to exist?
 
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I'm not sure, but I think this is the most exceptional thing I've ever read on the internet. I'm old enough to remember usenet, though, so it would take a while to check.

Rule of law is a thing.
Due process is a thing.
Presumption of innocence is a thing.

Do you not understand how these work?

Except in the absolute rarest situations, if someone kills themselves, that's on them, not anyone else. Even in places with specific laws against encouraging suicide, you have to be very explicitly and directly encouraging it, and for anything other than that, like manslaughter, you practically have to have been there with the pills in your hand feeding them to the victim.

That case where someone's girlfriend basically pushed them over the edge on the phone while they were actively in the act of committing suicide is a rare exception.
 
All the ways that Zoe chooses to represent herself strike me as visual warnings not to associate with her. The hair dye, the tattooes, piercings, 'alternative' iconography and visual symbols in general. Not to mention the many names she goes by as seen in the title of this thread. It is as if each of these new names sprouted out of necessity to avoid the soiled reputation of its predecessor. In general I have not seen so many obvious warning signals associated with a single person. Zoe may be the most toxic public figure of our era.
All of this shit, including the names, are very normie and basic shit. She's pretty much the chic who cosplay as Harley Quinn and thinks she's the only one.

The best and only thing we can do is call her Chelsea, that's the one thing she likely doesn't want to be.
 
I don't know if I'm late for the party for this. Remember that Kymberlie Harris woman who posted a review on Zoe Quinn's book and later was edited out and turns out to be her mother? I was browsing the white pages. I don't know if it's a match or not, but it suspiciously looks like one. And Chelsea's middle name starts with a 'E'.
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Most likely but I wouldn't harass her mum. Looking through it looks like it checks out with other information like the bike shop Chelsea is listed as living at if you look her up through that name.
 
lol, literally everyone I asked about Zoe's own abuse - CON, etc - have blocked me. I also appear to have made it onto the grabblygopher block list as a result.

#BelieveVictimsButNotIfTheyrePoliticallyInconvenient
It's a rule with them. You can never ask for them to clarify anything because they automatically think you're a gamergater after that. You are not allowed to question them.
 
Except in the absolute rarest situations, if someone kills themselves, that's on them, not anyone else. Even in places with specific laws against encouraging suicide, you have to be very explicitly and directly encouraging it, and for anything other than that, like manslaughter, you practically have to have been there with the pills in your hand feeding them to the victim.

That case where someone's girlfriend basically pushed them over the edge on the phone while they were actively in the act of committing suicide is a rare exception.

Oh, I'm not saying this was illegal and punishable. I expect everyone to walk away from this (Well, not Alec, because he's dead, but everyone else).

But taking away a mentally ill and suicidal person's only reason to live is a shitty thing to do. It would be nice if this was investigated and Chelsea, Scott and Bethany all got a good verbal telling off because maybe - just maybe - they won't do it again, and/or the next target will hang on and kick back.

Sigh. I can but dream.
 
Most likely but I wouldn't harass her mum. Looking through it looks like it checks out with other information like the bike shop Chelsea is listed as living at if you look her up through that name.
Oh I won't. The Kiwi Farm rules clearly says no troll attacks. I do feel sorry for her mom though, for being stabbed in the back by her own out-of-control child like Chelsea/Locke/Zoe.
 
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I'm not sure, but I think this is the most exceptional thing I've ever read on the internet. I'm old enough to remember usenet, though, so it would take a while to check.

Rule of law is a thing.
Due process is a thing.
Presumption of innocence is a thing.

Do you not understand how these work?

Edit: More to the point, Do you not understand why they need to exist?


Yes I do understand those things...I also understand Canada has unfortunately gone out of its way to completely destroy those things.

It sucks but I'm pointing out:

A. What he would want, nothing to do with legal stuff. I disagree with that, because I don't know how else she's going to stop.

B. She has no excuse in Canada not to bring it to the police due to newer laws that throw out presumption of innocence and hand
over the defendants evidence to the contrary to the prosecution before the trial so the alleged victim can prepare a response before
cross examination, ruining the upperhand a defendants legal team has to catch them in a lie.

I don't agree with the new laws but they're there and it goes to her motives for doing what she did instead of going to Canadian Courts.

Driving an "Alleged abuser" to suicide wouldn't necessarily lead to the punishment of a woman here even if her allegations aren't proven, again nothing to do with my beliefs or understanding.
 
Yes I do understand those things...I also understand Canada has unfortunately gone out of its way to completely destroy those things.

It sucks but I'm pointing out:

A. What he would want, nothing to do with legal stuff. I disagree with that, because I don't know how else she's going to stop.

B. She has no excuse in Canada not to bring it to the police due to newer laws that throw out presumption of innocence and hand
over the defendants evidence to the contrary to the prosecution before the trial so the alleged victim can prepare a response before
cross examination, ruining the upperhand a defendants legal team has to catch them in a lie.

I don't agree with the new laws but they're there and it goes to her motives for doing what she did instead of going to Canadian Courts.

Driving an "Alleged abuser" to suicide wouldn't necessarily lead to the punishment of a woman here even if her allegations aren't proven, again nothing to do with my beliefs or understanding.

Existing laws are... Imperfect. Compare Alvin Kennard to Brock Turner.
But we strive to make to them better, not chuck the whole lot out:
If we do that, it's down to "Who has the most twitter followers?" or "Who has the biggest stick?"
And when "The girl with the most twitter followers" meets "The boy with the biggest stick"...

...She's gonna regret not having enforced laws.
 
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She could easily say she was pretending to be happy because Alec was reading her twitter.

A court case is the best thing that would happen to her since Gamergate. She could write another whole book about it, and people might buy it this time.
Shed get a chunk of money from brainwashed idiots for sure but the wider crowd who see the posts telling her to kill herself, drop some sympathy, and then tune out, wouldn't buy it and they're the main way she defends herself
 
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