Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

And if people want to respect the dead, realize 3 things that Alec would never want to happen from this situation:

1. Gamergate 2
2. People not believing other women because of ZQ
3. Putting someone he believed needs serious mental help in prison.

Whether or not people agree with those beliefs...I feel like they should be stated.

Women don't go to jail for this stuff in Canada anyway. The legal system is very stacked against dudes, which is
why it's more messed up they did not go to the police. There's no limit and it's on the defendant to prove he didn't do it.

Ya know what I know Alec definately would want? People speaking for his death to tell others how to act and what to do!

Alec also wanted you to donate to my new kickstarter project. Also Alec wanted you to help pay off my student loans. Alec also wanted you to get me a nintendo switch. Alec also wanted you all to support the work of Christine Weston Chandler and make sure Sonichu becomes the #1 comic in the world
 
I didn't see this posted already, so if it has, too bad.

Walking White Human Penis Cory Doctorow chimes in on the beauty of grave dancing


Anyone want to accuse Cory of being a molester? Maybe a Pedophile? He seems like he needs that kind of "grounding".


I like they way they actually fucked up the narrative because they implictly accept he killed himself because of her actions and they don't give a fuck because women have it worse. The Articles mentions lauries Penny's trademark is empathy without sympathy which is approapriate because empathy without sympathy is about as use as a car without wheels and it's pretty clear Laurie doesnt give a single shit at least 50% of the human race.


Keep up the good work lads, you'll bury Quinn in no time! Maybe write an article about all the people affected by his suicide are losers or somesuch. Put a big picture of the parents at their sons funderal with a caption about how his deadbeat parents should be at Quinns house providing emotional support of somesuch.
 
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I like they way they actually fucked up the narrative because they implictly accept he killed himself because of her actions and they don't give a fuck because women have it worse. The Articles mentions lauries Penny's trademark is empathy without sympathy which is approapriate because empathy without sympathy is about as use as a car without wheels and it's pretty clear Laurie doesnt give a single shit at least 50% of the human race.


Keep up the good work lads, you'll bury Quinn in no time! Maybe write an article about all the people affected by his suicide are losers or somesuch. Put a big picture of the parents at their sons funderal with a caption about how his deadbeat parents should be at Quinns house providing emotional support of somesuch.
Zoe's strength was never the more out and out loons, it was always outlets that have enough of a veneer that the average consumer bought into their narrative rather than look deep enough past the rougher comments to debunk it. These idiots think their insanity in broad daylight with no window dressing is palatable to joe and jane shmo

Any attempts to say her tweets during the relationship period are evidence of anything can be countered by stating Zoe lied which is backed up by the far stronger evidence of Zoe Quinn being Zoe Quinn.
Then she'd have to explain why she was at so many irl networking and party events when she was supposedly cowering isolated in an apartment like Rapunzel. Not to say Zoe will be convicted in fucking Cuckanda but I think it'll at least be a minor head ache and a decent amount of baggage for future prospects
 
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So this is very similar to the Yaniv situation in many respects. I have to say I really do sympathize with the RCMP
with the ways Canada has become a liberal minefield ,
(one step in the wrong place and BOOOM it's lawsuit and HRC Tribunal or worse.)
My point is, thst RCMP is therefore buried in "stacks and stacks of cyber paperwork" and hence, things move very slowly in situations like these.
For instance the Jonathan Yaniv thing would have blown sky high and that pedo dude would have been decimated in a matter of weeks if this happened here in America out in public like he's been.
Sadly though, the actual GOOD folks up there are being made to sit and wait as the wheels of justice go about 3 miles an hour.......

It works out on another level though, and that is that they are obliged to take everything brought to them seriously.
And in this case they made me feel very vindicated in my bipolar last few days of capturing shit.
Which is why I went directly to them, hoping that they wouldn't blow me off.
They didn't.

The person that communicated with me said that the concern is that they need something TANGIBLY demonstrating that Chelsea was not in any distress during her time with Alec and that if it can be demonstrably proven that she wasn't trapped up there or isolated from her colleagues as she states BUT, that also we need evidence showing that she intentionally pushed him over the edge, which is where we hit the speed bumps..

Once they have combed through the 53 screen grabs for their own profile of her (YES they have one, confirmed) then I will add them ALL back here.
I/They don't want US or, mainly, any lurkers disrupting justice by letting her get in front of the story and training herself into memorized responses as to why she projected a completely different image online than the one she now claims.

First of all, this makes sense, If I were being held in an emotional trap, I myself would most likely project an image of "I'm Ok you're OK" if I HAD A FUCKING GUN TO MY HEAD......

Tl;DR
She didn't.

I was told not to worry too much about the screen grabs that I already posted and left up, those URL's especially because we have it documented and I can just jump back here and grab the URL's when needed.

SO for now, ALLEGEDLY I am just letting them continue to rifle through the "Hellish Torture" area of her timeline.

wink emoji.....
 
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She was posting from her iPhone so why didn't she just call 991/112 if she truly felt trapped/isolated/held against her will/abused? All those Twitter posts show she was using a phone to post to Twitter. Or she could have texted someone in the US for help.

I don't think the RCMP are taking it seriously tbh.
They probably won't because a lack of understanding over the whole thing and the fact that they really don't care.
 
And if people want to respect the dead, realize 3 things that Alec would never want to happen from this situation:

1. Gamergate 2
2. People not believing other women because of ZQ
3. Putting someone he believed needs serious mental help in prison.

Whether or not people agree with those beliefs...I feel like they should be stated.

Women don't go to jail for this stuff in Canada anyway. The legal system is very stacked against dudes, which is
why it's more messed up they did not go to the police. There's no limit and it's on the defendant to prove he didn't do it.
You know what's the main problem with "Alec didn't want this, Alec didn't want that"? Alec is fucking dead and this is probably what he really didn't want, like he didn't want to see his life destroyed by a fucking tweet.

On the other note, I know I'm late with my opinion on Zoe, but fuck it. Sam Hyde, who has been blacklisted by this all around cucked industry, put what I feel in the best way possible.
 
Ya know what I know Alec definately would want? People speaking for his death to tell others how to act and what to do!

Alec also wanted you to donate to my new kickstarter project. Also Alec wanted you to help pay off my student loans. Alec also wanted you to get me a nintendo switch. Alec also wanted you all to support the work of Christine Weston Chandler and make sure Sonichu becomes the #1 comic in the world

Sorry, I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do or not to do. Part of the reason why this happened is because a whole lot of people decided that defending womenfolk as a whole
was more important than what one woman was doing to many people. I just felt the need to state what he would want/not want based on what I know out of respect and I worded it rather shitty. I disagree with the whole "let it go on like this because ZQ is the epitome of womanhood and we have to protect it" because that's how we got here. People would rather see men keep getting tortured by a snake than admit they hung their hat on said snake.


You know what's the main problem with "Alec didn't want this, Alec didn't want that"? Alec is fucking dead and this is probably what he really didn't want, like he didn't want to see his life destroyed by a fucking tweet.

On the other note, I know I'm late with my opinion on Zoe, but fuck it. Sam Hyde, who has been blacklisted by this all around cucked industry, put what I feel in the best way possible.

I agree but It showcases the mentality a lot of those guys have and why there could be more of them down the line. I don't know what the right way is to get that to stop.
 
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Here I was thinking she faded into irrelevancy, she’s like herpes, she won’t go away.

Edit: also if what was said about her is true, this wouldn’t be the first timeshe killed someone, directly or indirectly.
She was fading thats why the Alec crusade began in the first place, Landis and Notch told her to fuck off so she had to go lower in her sacrificial cash cow list
 
The best and only thing we can do is call her Chelsea, that's the one thing she likely doesn't want to be.

I never understood what the deal is with trashy little drama-junkie sluts and giving themselves fake names for no fucking reason.

"You can call me Astrid Mesmer."

Your name is Bridgette you silly cocksheath, and you live in a trailer with your weird-smelling grandma that doesn't talk, you have dog turds on the kitchen floor, and your father gave me a Hank Williams Zippo lighter for some clean piss when he met with his parole officer. The only thing I'm calling is my health care provider after I polish off a bottle of MD 2020, cum in you, and vomit into your panties while they're around your ankles.

I mean, hypothetically. I'd never do such a thing, as I am a fine upstanding Christian lad with only the finest taste in ladies of negotiable virtue.

I find it humorous that these folks don't realize that CHUD was a series of low budget horror flicks. CHUD stands for Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller, so I laugh when I see them call people chuds. :lit:
Bud the CHUD was a gift to mankind

 
Anything with Garrett Graham is a gift to mankind.

Salutations from the other side!

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Calm down, that's nothing. All she has to do is spout some line about Stockholm syndrome or some shit and she was actually terrified the whole time, he made her write those happy posts, etc, etc, and nobody will touch her. After all, he's dead, so he can't exactly give a different account of the situation.
sad but true.she can always con Her way out of anything now
 
It's good that the authorities have Chelsea's Hell Week(s) on record now. Understand there's nothing they can do with it, but any paper trail left is a good thing. The whole thing is tragic and unnecessary. Nothing pisses people off more than perceived injustice. Especially with the horror of watching it happen real time.

Admittedly, it's real-life drama shit like this that gets people off and I'll admit it's memorizing in same way as being informed about Kevin Hart's crash by TMZ's comment section. However, some important work is being done with documenting the anatomy of a Cancelling or Zeroing via social media. It was really a brilliant idea to jump back to the time of her alleged imprisonment and torture. To see it with her own words was something important.

I'm a forum guy, so I don't use Twatter. I've never seen her in video or irl, so she really pops through in her writing. This bitch is first and foremost extremely addicted to pumping emotions on social media, especially with people she perceives as victims. She's an emotional vampire in that sense, seeking out somebody to leech some feels off of for her pleasure.

After seeing her Twatter on full display, Chelsea is getting too much credit. She's not some deep sociopath or psychopath. She's just an emotional vampire and whore who's addicted to social media. Game industry has a lot of crossover with intersectional nerd/geek culture. The indie autists are a mess and easy prey. Her Twatter is the digital version of her vag that she uses like a venus fly trap to catch losers. That's as deep as it goes.💁‍♂️
 
Being a gay leaf myself, I'm not confident anything will happen with this, these are the same people who are okay with you being fined 10k for misgendering an insane pervert.

What I hate about this whole ordeal since day one is it empowers the one group who should never ever be empowered: crazy sluts. We are living in a Crazy Slut world now. Free abortions or your own birth was a rape and you owe money.
 
Canada's legal system is a god damned joke almost everyone knows it. Letters to Zachary? That guy who had his head cut off on a bus? The former ended the way it did because the judge was a complete fucking moron and after she had the blood of a dead baby on her hands all she could say was "no comment". The latter I'm pretty sure is seeing the literal fucking butcher released on furlough because he's "doing better". Look at how hard they bungled these cases. Zoe killed a dude and she's probably going free. That's what actually happened but she has a lumpy, rainbow-haired, non-binary following who won't ever question and will gladly astro-turf anyone or anything that goes against the narrative and Canada is cucked to hell and back.
 
I don't usually leave the LTG thread, but this recent ZQ situation has been in the back of my head since it was reported.
To start, I do not care about the #metoo movement, however I am all for those that have been abused getting legal help, as well as offenders facing deserved prosecution.

It is immensely upsetting that this situation could even go unpunished for multiple reasons.
There are systems set up for this exact thing for a reason. The ONLY reason to take this to Twitter is for attention.
It is so sickening to see that when given a platform, society will happily sidestep the judiciary process and become a lynch mob; and all of it will be excused because public opinion will already be swayed by a one sided narrative.
And despite whether Holowka committed these crimes or not, he was a human being that was born, learned, and struggled just like anybody else. He deserved a trial and he deserved the right to defend himself.
The fact that he killed himself should be considered a tremendous loss, not just for his family, but for his potential victims. If it does turn out that he was guilty, they will never get to see justice for the crimes that he committed. And to add insult to injury; the narrative now gets to be controlled by this professional victim.

I sincerely pray that tomorrow will be a better day for everyone, because at the end of the day nobody won.
An industry lost a creator, a family lost a son, and a con artist became a murderer.
 
You can't 'cancel' Quinn. She's too much of a 'sacred cow' for that to ever be a thing. The people surrounding her will close ranks around an avowed pedophile to not concede an inch to 'those filthy GooberGrubbers', and will deny any and ALL accusations of abuse or exploitation made against her.

What you CAN do, however, is make working with her an active liability. Her Patreon is decimated, therefore she can't use it as a main source of income, and she has zero merit as a developer, therefore talent alone won't save her ass. The CON fiasco is the silver bullet. No sane company outside of her clique, from a PR perspective, would defend someone who knowingly exploited abuse survivors and minority individuals.
 
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