حلال Connor Bible - Everyone's Favorite Molly Ringwald loving, adoption hating, aspiring writer and bellybutton fucker

[The Knife]

Well, I honestly want to write fiction because I enjoy reading it. I feel like I have some stories to tell, and we all do. If you insist that I should give up writing, what do you suggest?

Read outside your genre. Take a writing course at school. Take some upper-level English. Read things that were written in the past five years. Find yourself some books about outlining and structuring. And for god's sake, when someone gives you advice, consider it. Don't go to the extremes of "you want me to stop writing altogether" and "you want me to dumb down my work and write garbage."

 

[Zvantastika]

That doesn't answer my question. If I'm not cut out to be a writer, despite how much I want to, what should I be? A janitor?

No, being a janitor requires following directions accurately and without question.

 

[Bugaboo]

Molly Ringworm calls it like it is.

 

[Pine Tar]

That doesn't answer my question. If I'm not cut out to be a writer, despite how much I want to, what should I be? A janitor?

Don't knock being a janitor. I was one for two and a half years. It sucked, but I got my own place out of it.

 

[Dilligaff]

Has he actually written anything yet? I mean since the thread started. Also, you can't know if you're not cut out to be a writer until you put some effort into it and lear- oh wait, sorry, just repeating what's been said a millions times before.

 

[Ti-99/4A]

what should I be? A janitor?

There's no shame in that. It's honest work that needs to be done by someone.
You'll get a work out at least. Digging ditches is also good honest strenuous labor.

Edit: You're already good at digging yourself into a hole figuratively.

 

[Connor Bible]

@The Knife :

As much as I would like my future writings to be commercially successful, I want to have some standards. Stories aren't all about spectacle and entertainment, y'know.

 

[Foulmouth]

@The Knife :

As much as I would like my future writings to be commercially successful, I want to have some standards. Story's aren't all about spectacle and entertainment, y'know.

Do you even think before you type shit like that ? Maybe you should give it a try.

 

[silentprincess]

Connor, everyone here has tried to help you as best as they can. Yet you feel the need to ignore them and continue to whine, which is just sad and pathetic to do. I don't mean to sound harsh, but now it is becoming beyond a joke, and I think you like the attention you get when you do whine.

Please stop, I don't want to go full blown Holden mad on you, but reading through this thread, it is making me start to get frustrated and annoyed with you to the point where I do.

I've even given you writing tips and you outright ignored them.

If you are that concerned about your writing, take a writing class and do something constructive.

 

[Dalish]

@The Knife :

As much as I would like my future writings to be commercially successful, I want to have some standards. Story's aren't all about spectacle and entertainment, y'know.

Then don't write. Commercially successful works don't equal drivel: Orwell, Huxley, King, Eliot... the list goes on. How do you plan on writing if you have no money to get published or find an agent?

Also: You can't even spell 'stories'.

 

[The Knife]

@The Knife :

As much as I would like my future writings to be commercially successful, I want to have some standards. Stories aren't all about spectacle and entertainment, y'know.

I AM NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL SUCCESS. I AM TALKING ABOUT WORKING ON YOUR CRAFT. AS IT STANDS NOW, COMMERCIAL SUCCESS IS A PROBLEM YOU WILL NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

 

[The Knife's Husbando]

There's no shame in that. It's honest work that needs to be done by someone.
You'll get a work out at least. Digging ditches is also good honest strenuous labor.

Not to mention it'll help you avoid internet drama- like the shitstorm you're currently in- and give you money to move away from your (as you admitted) bothersome home situation you're currently in , and give you enough free time to work on you craft unimpeded.

Hell, the entire time I was trying to get my smithy off the ground I was shoveling pizza into an oven at a local Sbarros'. Did I like it? Hell no. But it gave me the money I needed to get along in both the mundane world, and the leisure time & room to further my craft.

 

[The Knife's Husbando]

I AM NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL SUCCESS. I AM TALKING ABOUT WORKING ON YOUR CRAFT. AS IT STANDS NOW, COMMERCIAL SUCCESS IS A PROBLEM YOU WILL NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

(Shortens The Knife's leash)

 

[BALLZ-BROKEN]

Read outside your genre. Take a writing course at school. Take some upper-level English. Read things that were written in the past five years. Find yourself some books about outlining and structuring. And for god's sake, when someone gives you advice, consider it. Don't go to the extremes of "you want me to stop writing altogether" and "you want me to dumb down my work and write garbage."

You don't have to be ashamed to eat instant oatmeal. You know, the easy serve packets with de-hyraded fruit and little seeds in it. I ate that shit all the time. But then, I switched to the "Old-Fashioned" oats that stores sell in the big cardboard tube. That won't impress the lifters and the hipsters that cry for "steel ground" oats, but I don't care. Oatmeal is oatmeal.

 

[The Knife's Husbando]

You don't have to be ashamed to eat instant oatmeal. You know, the easy serve packets with de-hyraded fruit and little seeds in it. I ate that shit all the time. But then, I switched to the "Old-Fashioned" oats that stores sell in the big cardboard tube. That won't impress the lifters and the hipsters that cry for "steel ground" oats, but I don't care. Oatmeal is oatmeal.

I'm a grits man myself. Shrimp n' grits is a breakfast of the gods. Oatmeal in any form is like eating wet cardboard to me.

 

[Cosmos]

Connor, I still feel as though you haven't addressed your past (and possibly present?) misogyny. Frankly, you said some very offensive and downright wrong things about women. Why do you think we're all soulless sluts and whores and idiots and gold diggers? What did we ever do to you? There are over three billion women in the world, or half of the human species' entire population. Each and every woman has her own experiences, thoughts, opinions, feelings, likes and dislikes, interests, hopes and dreams... everything that makes a person a person. What gives you the right to insult and degrade so many people, especially considering how the female gender has suffered so much thanks to misogyny (forced marriage, rape, genital mutilation, forced abortion, being treated as second-class citizens or slaves, assault, abuse, honor killings, female infanticide, sexual slavery, human trafficking, bride burning....)?

I just think it's really fucked up for someone to hate women for being women in this day and age.

 

[Connor Bible]

Then don't write. Commercially successful works don't equal drivel: Orwell, Huxley, King, Eliot... the list goes on.

You do know some of the greats didn't even achieve success until they were already six feet under, right?

 

[Foulmouth]

You do know some of the greats didn't even achieve success until they were already six feet under, right?

Yes, but they had talent before they died. You don't.

 

[Ti-99/4A]

What did we ever do to you?

Like most misogynists, it's likely what you Haven't done for such a nice guy like Connor.

 

[Abby]

Connor, I still feel as though you haven't addressed your past (and possibly present?) misogyny. Frankly, you said some very offensive and downright wrong things about women. Why do you think we're all soulless sluts and whores and idiots and gold diggers? What did we ever do to you? There are over three billion women in the world, or half of the human species' entire population. Each and every woman has her own experiences, thoughts, opinions, feelings, likes and dislikes, interests, hopes and dreams... everything that makes a person a person. What gives you the right to insult and degrade so many people, especially considering how the female gender has suffered so much thanks to misogyny (forced marriage, rape, genital mutilation, forced abortion, being treated as second-class citizens or slaves, assault, abuse, honor killings, female infanticide, sexual slavery, human trafficking, bride burning....)?

I just think it's really fucked up for someone to hate women for being women in this day and age.

And why make a woman the main character of your book when you've held these beliefs? Write what you know, and you don't know women.