I want to know what the fuck Holden thinks "Seducing" is. As far as I can tell, it's a guy who can do shit he (Holden) can't.
A guy has money/job? Seduction.
A guy praises a girl? Seduction.
A guy works out/has muscles? Seduction.
A guy can talk to girls? Seduction.
A guy has a house? Seduction.
A guy gives a girl a present? Seduction.
To Holden, seduction is anything that a guy can use to get a girl to be with him; and while that could be true, I don't think Holden realizes that people want more out of a relationship than sex. I asked him already if he'd be willing to have a virgin bride who never wanted to have sex with him... he said no. When asked why he said, "you're stupid if you have to ask that" which to ME means he wouldn't want her cuz they wouldn't have sex.
If my future husband came to me and said "Hun, I don't want to have sex anymore. It's not that I don't love you, I really do, I just don't like it because blahblahblah." If I loved him, I'd try to work it out. Sex isn't a deal breaker for me. Don't get me wrong, I'd want it... but it's not like NOT having sex is going to make me love that person any less. Who knows, maybe it would make us a stronger couple because instead of hours of sex we'd be talking and sharing interests.
Holden on the other hand "No sex, no relationship" while also saying "all you guys do is think/talk about sex!!!!"