Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

[thejackal]

Somebody call this bitch a motherfucking Wahhhhhhhhmbulance already! All these fat cunts, every single one, is so hung up on how they once suffered because they existed on three grapes a day for two weeks and both of their lungs collapsed as a result. So now they are triggered with anyone telling them to eat less. There are trillions of books at the library, and online, and on Amazon that can teach you how to eat healthily. Or shit, I dunno, see a therapist. I never hear a single one of these fat cunts state they are getting help for their eating disorders. Only, woe is me, I HAVE an eating disorder. Then fix it you fucking Idiot. Jesus Fucking Christ on a Cracker!!!

secretly they know their parents were correct. one of the strange, oh as they would say -- maps -- of SJW culture with being fat is the rejection of adults being good authority figures and it plays out in the "mom put me on a diet I'm anorexic as an 8th grader at 170lbs" shit.

Part of it is also probably the pop culture of the early and mid aughts being all about ana and stick thin culture -- TBF to the fat fucks.

BUT, Corissa's dumbass mentioned her doc said "it's not like you have to be a model or anything". wow! what a terrible, horrifically mean thing to say to a person 300lbs overweight that puts herself out on IG all day long.

Heaven forbid the doctor was trying a moment of fucking ironic levity.

 

[rocknrollmartian]

I finally got around to watching all of the IG stories that thejackal kindly put up, and it's just...wtf. Imagine Tweedledum and Tweedle-they waddling into your exam room--a literal 1000 pounds between two people--to request tips for "movement" and heart/respiratory health and then flipping out when you say calorie counting is the only viable option or path to improvement for any of their concerns. I actually feel sorry for MDs these days and fear we're going to lose sorely needed medical professionals to this nonsense.

 

[MetalParakeet]

Sorry if someone has already pointed this out, but I haven't seen it in the recent pages so I'll do it again.

First, I've got a bit of psych experience. Only a bachelor degree, but I've worked in mental health. Yada yada.

Anorexia, at least how it was defined when I was getting my degree, was defined not only by a low body weight but by one that resulted in the absence of a period.

I graduated just before/around the time the newer version of the DSM came out, and I know they were discussing changing that definition but only because it made it hard to diagnose males with anorexia.

Second thing, eating disorders are typically not comorbid.

As in, you don't really get diagnosed with anorexia AND bulimia. You may have a binge purge subtype of anorexia, you may have a restrictive form of bulimia but you're not both. A rather brash psych professor once described it as "you have bulimia until you get skinny enough to upgrade to anorexia."

Thirdly, most have neither anorexia or bulimia. There are several other eating disorders, such as EDNOS, which are significantly more common. I never see people claiming those ones, and I imagine it's because they're not as "sexy" or "dramatic" as anorexia and bulimia.
You never hear the Hollywood storyline about the beautifully misunderstood girl who needs to be saved from the horrors of...EDNOS.

 

[Spastic Colon]

Well, tbf, I do think there is some truth to the idea that obese patients sometimes fail to get diagnosed because doctors assume the issue is the weight. But, doctors are trained to consider the odds and go for the most obvious cause first. If you are morbidly obese, the odds are pretty high that your problem is weight related. And if you fail to do anything to reduce your weight and take that part of the equation out of consideration -- then the doctor isn't likely to look at anything else because he hasn't been proven wrong and insurance doesn't just let them run every test out there until they find something. Unless there are new symptoms pointing in a different direction, he will likely just keep telling you to lose weight and chalk up the ongoing nature of the problem to patient non-compliance.

If you really think you are sick, the best thing you can do is to start losing the weight and force the doctor to consider another diagnosis. If the doctor is right, losing weight will improve your health and you'll feel better. If you are correct that it isn't your weight, well, you'll still be healthier because you lost weight but now your doctor might re-evaluate and figure out what the problem really is. Losing weight is just a win-win in that situation.

Likely, though, they are just looking for an excuse to be fat. They don't want to change and they want something that they can throw in everyone else's face and say, "I have XYZ and the doctor says it is impossible for me to lose weight -- so you can't judge me anymore". And they get pissed doctors won't go along with it.

 

[dopedodo]

Anorexia, at least how it was defined when I was getting my degree, was defined not only by a low body weight but by one that resulted in the absence of a period.

I graduated just before/around the time the newer version of the DSM came out, and I know they were discussing changing that definition but only because it made it hard to diagnose males with anorexia.

At the time I was diagnosed with it, the period stuff had been scrubbed but I remember it did involve loss of at least 20% of one's body weight within x-amount of time, plus restrictive eating patterns or purging continuing for some months or more. I can't remember the details exactly but I do remember the absence of a period didn't come into it.

 

[gay frogs]

I wonder if she’s crying because deep down, she knows the doctor is right and she’s waddling toward an early grave?

 

[rocknrollmartian]

Well, tbf, I do think there is some truth to the idea that obese patients sometimes fail to get diagnosed because doctors assume the issue is the weight.

Oh, of course, but in the context of the Corissa/J saga, that's not the case. These two want to revel in being fat gluttons without any consequences or concessions, and that's not reality. Normal people who are a bit out of shape but otherwise healthy don't tend to worry about walking the minimal distance from their hotel room to the hotel pool. They don't need heart function tests (and Corissa said hers were fine) or serious guidance about modest exercise (while hawking yoga clothes on IG and insisting that they are "very active," no less). Nothing adds up here imo.

I found an old "thin" picture of Corissa on IG. She's definitely still fat in it:


And here's Food Psych Christy Harrison smiling while enabling two dying women in person:

 

[dopedodo]

I wonder if she’s crying because deep down, she knows the doctor is right and she’s waddling toward an early grave?

I would wager this is it. She doesn't want to be told she's making the wrong decisions for her health, she doesn't want someone to pull back the curtain and the big reveal is YOU ARE KILLING YOURSELF. She's 100% invested in body-positivity and fat activism and she knows if she wants to get healthier she'll have to risk being ostracised by the communities she's so embedded in.

 

[thejackal]

Oh, of course, but in the context of the Corissa/J saga, that's not the case. These two want to revel in being fat gluttons without any consequences or concessions, and that's not reality. Normal people who are a bit out of shape but otherwise healthy don't tend to worry about walking the minimal distance from their hotel room to the hotel pool. They don't need heart function tests (and Corissa said hers were fine) or serious guidance about modest exercise (while hawking yoga clothes on IG and insisting that they are "very active," no less). Nothing adds up here imo.

I found an old "thin" picture of Corissa on IG. She's definitely still fat in it:
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And here's Food Psych Christy Harrison smiling while enabling two dying women in person:
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the thin, white, conventionally pretty "yoga" ally profiting off the fat girls' insecurity is the best.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Sorry if someone has already pointed this out, but I haven't seen it in the recent pages so I'll do it again.

First, I've got a bit of psych experience. Only a bachelor degree, but I've worked in mental health. Yada yada.

Anorexia, at least how it was defined when I was getting my degree, was defined not only by a low body weight but by one that resulted in the absence of a period.

I graduated just before/around the time the newer version of the DSM came out, and I know they were discussing changing that definition but only because it made it hard to diagnose males with anorexia.

Second thing, eating disorders are typically not comorbid.

As in, you don't really get diagnosed with anorexia AND bulimia. You may have a binge purge subtype of anorexia, you may have a restrictive form of bulimia but you're not both. A rather brash psych professor once described it as "you have bulimia until you get skinny enough to upgrade to anorexia."

Thirdly, most have neither anorexia or bulimia. There are several other eating disorders, such as EDNOS, which are significantly more common. I never see people claiming those ones, and I imagine it's because they're not as "sexy" or "dramatic" as anorexia and bulimia.
You never hear the Hollywood storyline about the beautifully misunderstood girl who needs to be saved from the horrors of...EDNOS.

They have completely revamped most of the DSM-V to be spectrum based.
Interestingly, Binge Eating Disorder specifically has a rule out for Obesity.
Since a lot of discussion comes up about the disorders heres the new criteria under spoiler:

Spoiler: Rumination Disorder

A. Repeated regurgitation of food over a period of at least 1 month. Regurgitated food may be re-chewed, re-swallowed, or spit out.

B. The repeated regurgitation is not attributable to an associated gastrointestinal or other medical condition (e.g., gastroesophageal reflux, pyloric stenosis).

C. The eating disturbance does not occur exclusively during the course of anorexia nervosa, bulimia nervosa, binge-eating disorder, or avoidant/restrictive food intake disorder.

D. If the symptoms occur in the context of another mental disorder (e.g., intellectual disability [Intellectual developmental disorder] or another neurodevelopmental disorder), they are sufficiently severe to warrant additional clinical attention.

Spoiler: Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder

A. An eating or feeding disturbance (e.g., apparent lack of interest in eating or food; avoidance based on the sensory characteristics of food; concern about aversive consequences of eating) as manifested by persistent failure to meet appropriate nutritional and/or energy needs associated with one (or more) of the following:
1. Significant weight loss (or failure to achieve expected weight gain or faltering growth in children).
2. Significant nutritional deficiency.
3. Dependence on enteral feeding or oral nutritional supplements.
4. Marked interference with psychosocial functioning.

B. The disturbance is not better explained by lack of available food or by an associated culturally sanctioned practice.

C. The eating disturbance does not occur exclusively during the course of anorexia nervosa or bulimia nervosa, and there is no evidence of a disturbance in the way in which one’s body weight or shape is experienced.

D. The eating disturbance is not attributable to a concurrent medical condition or not better explained by another mental disorder. When the eating disturbance occurs in the context of another condition or disorder, the severity of the eating disturbance exceeds
that routinely associated with the condition or disorder and warrants additional clinical attention.

Spoiler: Anorexia Nervosa

A. Restriction of energy intake relative to requirements, leading to a significantly low body weight in the context of age, sex, developmental trajectory, and physical health. Significantly low weight is defined as a weight that is less than minimally normal or, for
children and adolescents, less than that minimally expected.

B. Intense fear of gaining weight or of becoming fat, or persistent behavior that interferes with weight gain, even though at a significantly low weight.

C. Disturbance in the way in which one’s body weight or shape is experienced, undue influence of body weight or shape on self-evaluation, or persistent lack of recognition of the seriousness of the current low body weight.

Specify whether:

Restricting type:
During the last 3 months, the individual has not engaged in recurrent episodes of binge eating or purging behavior (i.e., self-induced vomiting or the misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or enemas). This subtype describes presentations in which weight loss is accomplished primarily through dieting, fasting, and/or excessive exercise.

Binge-eating/purging type:
During the last 3 months, the individual has engaged in recurrent episodes of binge eating or purging behavior (i.e., self-induced
vomiting or the misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or enemas).

Specify current severity:

The minimum level of severity is based, for adults, on current body mass index (BMI) (see below) or, for children and adolescents, on BMI percentile. The ranges below are derived from World Health Organization categories for thinness in adults; for children and adolescents, corresponding BMI percentiles should be used. The level of severity may be increased to reflect clinical symptoms, the degree of functional disability, and the need for supervision.

Mild: BMI >17kg/m2
Moderate: BM116-16.99 kg/m2
Severe: BM115-15.99 kg/m2
Extreme: BMI < 15 kg/m2

Subtypes:

Most individuals with the binge-eating/purging type of anorexia nervosa who binge eat also purge through self-induced vomiting or the misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or enemas. Some individuals with this subtype of anorexia nervosa do not binge eat but do regularly
purge after the consumption of small amounts of food. Crossover between the subtypes over the course of the disorder is not uncommon; therefore, subtype description should be used to describe current symptoms rather than longitudinal course.

Rule Outs:

Bulimia Nervosa.
Individuals with bulimia nervosa exhibit recurrent episodes of binge eating, engage in inappropriate behavior to avoid weight gain (e.g., self-induced vomiting), and are overly concerned with body shape and weight. However, unlike individuals with anorexia nervosa, binge-eating/purging type, individuals with bulimia nervosa maintain body weight at or above a minimally normal level.

Avoidant/restrictive food intake disorder.
Individuals with this disorder may exhibit significant weight loss or significant nutritional deficiency, but they do not have a fear of
gaining weight or of becoming fat, nor do they have a disturbance in the way they experience their body shape and weight.

Spoiler: Bulimia Nervosa

A. Recurrent episodes of binge eating. An episode of binge eating is characterized by both of the following:
1. Eating, in a discrete period of time (e.g., within any 2-hour period), an amount of food that is definitely larger than what most individuals would eat in a similar period of time under similar circumstances.
2. A sense of lack of control over eating during the episode (e.g., a feeling that one cannot stop eating or control what or how much one is eating).

B. Recurrent inappropriate compensatory behaviors in order to prevent weight gain, such as self-induced vomiting; misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or other medications; fasting; or excessive exercise.

C. The binge eating and inappropriate compensatory behaviors both occur, on average, at least once a week for 3 months.

D. Self-evaluation is unduly influenced by body shape and weight.

E. The disturbance does not occur exclusively during episodes of anorexia nervosa.

Specify current severity:

The minimum level of severity is based on the frequency of inappropriate compensatory behaviors (see below). The level of severity may be increased to reflect other symptoms and the degree of functional disability.

Mild: An average of 1-3 episodes of inappropriate compensatory behaviors per week.
Moderate: An average of 4-7 episodes of inappropriate compensatory behaviors per week.
Severe: An average of 8-13 episodes of inappropriate compensatory behaviors per week.
Extreme: An average of 14 or more episodes of inappropriate compensatory behaviors per week.

Rule Out:

Anorexia nervosa, binge-eating/purging type.
Individuals whose binge-eating behavior occurs only during episodes of anorexia nervosa are given the diagnosis anorexia nervosa,
binge-eating/purging type, and should not be given the additional diagnosis of bulimia nervosa. For individuals with an initial diagnosis of anorexia nervosa who binge and purge but whose presentation no longer meets the full criteria for anorexia nervosa,
binge-eating/purging type (e.g., when weight is normal), a diagnosis of bulimia nervosa should be given only when all criteria for bulimia nervosa have been met for at least 3 months.

Binge-eating disorder.
Some individuals binge eat but do not engage in regular inappropriate compensatory behaviors. In these cases, the diagnosis of binge-eating disorder should be considered.

Borderline personality disorder.
Binge-eating behavior is included in the impulsive behavior criterion that is part of the definition of borderline personality disorder. If the criteria for both borderline personality disorder and bulimia nervosa are met, both diagnoses should be given.

Spoiler: Binge-Eating Disorder

A. Recurrent episodes of binge eating. An episode of binge eating is characterized by both of the following:
1. Eating, in a discrete period of time (e.g., within any 2-hour period), an amount of food that is definitely larger than what most people would eat in a similar period of time under similar circumstances.
2. A sense of lack of control over eating during the episode (e.g., a feeling that one cannot stop eating or control what or how much one is eating).

B. The binge-eating episodes are associated with three (or more) of the following:
1. Eating much more rapidly than normal.
2. Eating until feeling uncomfortably full.
3. Eating large amounts of food when not feeling physically hungry.
4. Eating alone because of feeling embarrassed by how much one is eating.
5. Feeling disgusted with oneself, depressed, or very guilty afterward.

C. Marked distress regarding binge eating is present.

D. The binge eating occurs, on average, at least once a week for 3 months.

E. The binge eating is not associated with the recurrent use of inappropriate compensatory behavior as in bulimia nervosa and does not occur exclusively during the course of bulimia nervosa or anorexia nervosa.

Specify current severity:

The minimum level of severity is based on the frequency of episodes of binge eating (see below). The level of severity may be increased to reflect other symptoms and the degree of functional disability.

Mild: 1-3 binge-eating episodes per week.
Moderate: 4-7 binge-eating episodes per week.
Severe: 8-13 binge-eating episodes per week.
Extreme: 14 or more binge-eating episodes per week.

Rule Out:

Bulimia nervosa.
Binge-eating disorder has recurrent binge eating in common with bulimia nervosa but differs from the latter disorder in some fundamental respects. In terms of clinical presentation, the recurrent inappropriate compensatory behavior (e.g., purging, driven exercise) seen in bulimia nervosa is absent in binge-eating disorder. Unlike individuals with bulimia nervosa, individuals with binge-eating disorder typically do not show marked or sustained dietary restriction designed to influence body weight and shape between binge-eating episodes. They may, however, report frequent attempts at dieting. Binge-eating disorder also differs from bulimia nervosa in terms of response to treatment. Rates of improvement are consistently higher among individuals with binge-eating disorder than among those with bulimia nervosa.

Obesity.
Binge-eating disorder is associated with overweight and obesity but has several key features that are distinct from obesity. First, levels of overvaluation of body weight and shape are higher in obese individuals with the disorder than in those without the disorder. Second, rates of psychiatric comorbidity are significantly higher among obese individuals with the disorder compared with those without the disorder. Third, the long-term successful outcome of evidence-based psychological treatments for bingeeating disorder can be contrasted with the absence of effective long-term treatments for obesity.

Borderline personality disorder.
Binge eating is included in the impulsive behavior criterion that is part of the definition of borderline personality disorder. If the full criteria for both disorders are met, both diagnoses should be given.

Spoiler: Other Specified Feeding or Eating Disorder

This category applies to presentations in which symptoms characteristic of a feeding and eating disorder that cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning predominate but do not meet the full criteria for any of the disorders in the feeding and eating disorders diagnostic class. The other specified feeding or eating disorder category is used in situations in which the clinician chooses to communicate the specific reason that the presentation does not meet the criteria for any specific feeding and eating disorder. This is done by recording “other specified feeding or eating disorder” followed by the specific reason (e.g., “bulimia nervosa of low frequency”). Examples of presentations that can be specified using the “other specified” designation include the following:

1. Atypical anorexia nervosa:
All of the criteria for anorexia nervosa are met, except that despite significant weight loss, the individual’s weight is within or above the normal range.

2. Bulimia nervosa (of low frequency and/or limited duration):
All of the criteria for bulimia nervosa are met, except that the binge eating and inappropriate compensatory behaviors occur, on average, less than once a week and/or for less than 3 months.

3. Binge-eating disorder (of low frequency and/or limited duration):
All of the criteria for binge-eating disorder are met, except that the binge eating occurs, on average, less than once a week and/or for less than 3 months.

4. Purging disorder:
Recurrent purging behavior to influence weight or shape (e.g., selfinduced vomiting: misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or other medications) in the absence of binge eating.

5. Night eating syndrome:
Recurrent episodes of night eating, as manifested by eating after awakening from sleep or by excessive food consumption after the evening meal. There Is awareness and recall of the eating. The night eating is not better explained by external influences such as changes in the individual’s sleep-wake cycle or by local social norms. The night eating causes significant distress and/or impairment in functioning. The disordered pattern of eating is not better explained by binge-eating disorder or another mental disorder, including substance use, and is not attributable to another medical disorder or to an effect of medication.

Spoiler: Unspecified Feeding or Eating Disorder

This category applies to presentations in which symptoms characteristic of a feeding and eating disorder that cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning predominate but do not meet the full criteria for any of the disorders in the feeding and eating disorders diagnostic class. The unspecified feeding and eating disorder category is used in situations in which the clinician chooses not to specify the reason that the criteria are not met for a specific feeding and eating disorder, and includes presentations in which there is insufficient information to make a more specific diagnosis (e.g., in emergency room settings).

 

[Haesindang Park]

I would wager this is it. She doesn't want to be told she's making the wrong decisions for her health, she doesn't want someone to pull back the curtain and the big reveal is YOU ARE KILLING YOURSELF. She's 100% invested in body-positivity and fat activism and she knows if she wants to get healthier she'll have to risk being ostracised by the communities she's so embedded in.

Not only that but imagine the hell that hospital workers have to deal with when it comes to young fat bloated corpses. They keep saying "My body, my choice!" and "My body and choices do not affect you!" but don't understand what they're talking about.

 

[Ogg66]

Not only that but imagine the hell that hospital workers have to deal with when it comes to young fat bloated corpses. They keep saying "My body, my choice!" and "My body and choices do not affect you!" but don't understand what they're talking about.

Well apart from hospitals having to spend a fortune on equipment to deal with these beasts, such as special beds, trollies and hoists that cost a multitude of the normal stuff, there are issues with requiring more man power, when they have to bring out the bariatric ambulance due to the weight involved two crews have to be in attendance. There are I have been told an increase in days off due to damaged backs etc (Hospital Occupational Health manager). That is due to the difficulty in doing safe lifts and slides. So when these self-centred arseholes say they cause no effect well its horse shit they cost a fortune and cause a lot of people physical damage. The Funniest one I heard though was an extreme obese woman was too big to use some scanner, and they took her to the local zoo's veterinary hospital to use that one, I bet it was not even embarrassed.

 

[Taraxacum]

They keep saying "My body, my choice!" and "My body and choices do not affect you!" but don't understand what they're talking about.

I know this isn't what you were getting at, but on a related topic can I just say, there's nothing wrong with wanting to lose weight for someone else? I mean I liked having a beard and my SO knew that, but she confided that she hated facial hair, so now I shave. Could I have said, "well it's my body and you don't get to tell me what to do with my body!" I mean yeah I could have, but then I'd have been giant asshole. My point is Someone's motivation to lose weight shouldn't result in more or less shaming.

 

[Tesshollidaysflupaknees]

I would wager this is it. She doesn't want to be told she's making the wrong decisions for her health, she doesn't want someone to pull back the curtain and the big reveal is YOU ARE KILLING YOURSELF. She's 100% invested in body-positivity and fat activism and she knows if she wants to get healthier she'll have to risk being ostracised by the communities she's so embedded in.

Corissa knows deep down that she has a problem. The thing with any kind of addict is that, you can't help them until they want to help themselves. Recovery is hard work and I don't think Corrissa cares enough about her life to recover. On top of that, Jay and her family enable her. Corrisa talked about only going to the Doctors now with her sister, because the Doctor won't take her and Jay seriously. Of course the Doctor won't take them seriously. Anyone can see that these two are enabling each other to an early grave. So much of Corrisa's life is built around her being fat. She has a Twitter/Instagram about being fat. She makes YouTube videos about how great it is to be fat. She also sells T-shirts that are encouraging obesity with slogans like, "Fat Bitch" and "Fat Daddy" on them. Her personality is the, "cool fat bitch bully." She is a shell of a person.

 

[clusterfuckk]

I feel bad for her poor dog. She's going to give him a heat stroke. And the way she picks him up is just odd. Anna is a big bitch and she totes that dog around like it's totally normal to pickup your not-a-lap-dog and carry it places.

And the 2nd vid is nightmare fuel those with an aversion to clowns in particular might avoid it.

Because my biggest priority when my dog is possibly suffering from heat stroke; is to whip out my camera and capture it all, instead of waddling my fat ass over to get the dog some water, or a cool place to lay down.

 

[thejackal]

Because my biggest priority when my dog is possibly suffering from heat stroke; is to whip out my camera and capture it all, instead of waddling my fat ass over to get the dog some water, or a cool place to lay down.

Her poor dog is just a prop for her life since she has few if any real friends to put in her IG stories. She shoots most of her stuff from a tripod solo which is sorta sad for an "influencer".

 

[Your_Fairy_Wish_Prince]

I kind of get a bit of a beard vibe, especially as Gloria probably doesn't expect much of a sex life and at least opens up the opportunity for US citizenship in the future (it's nice to have options).

Or maybe I just can't wrap my head around a decent-looking guy actively pursuing and choosing this:

Its really sad that you can eat your way into looking like you have Down syndrome

 

[Binge_n_purrrg]

Her poor dog is just a prop for her life since she has few if any real friends to put in her IG stories. She shoots most of her stuff from a tripod solo which is sorta sad for an "influencer".

That would be fine, but why drag the poor animal on flights and shit? I’m sure a box of Twinkies would calm Anna’s fat ass for a two hour flight just fine.

 

[Haesindang Park]

Well apart from hospitals having to spend a fortune on equipment to deal with these beasts, such as special beds, trollies and hoists that cost a multitude of the normal stuff, there are issues with requiring more man power, when they have to bring out the bariatric ambulance due to the weight involved two crews have to be in attendance. There are I have been told an increase in days off due to damaged backs etc (Hospital Occupational Health manager). That is due to the difficulty in doing safe lifts and slides. So when these self-centred arseholes say they cause no effect well its horse shit they cost a fortune and cause a lot of people physical damage. The Funniest one I heard though was an extreme obese woman was too big to use some scanner, and they took her to the local zoo's veterinary hospital to use that one, I bet it was not even embarrassed.

Where I live, we have hospitals and clinics with open MRI to deal with the ridiculous numbers of obeast patients.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Where I live, we have hospitals and clinics with open MRI to deal with the ridiculous numbers of obeast patients.

Open MRI where I'm at is more a luxury if a really big one needed an MRI in the local hospitals around here they'd be SOL it has the old skinny fully enclosed ones that cant even pipe in music or anything.