Articles & Happening Meta Discussion

Articles & Happenings is the third attempt at a news board on the Kiwi Farms. It is a cursed place. Every moderator who has been assigned here has resigned within a year. During 2016, the political crossfire was so bad it spread to different boards and culminated in me banning American news discussion entirely for several months. It has been deleted in its entirety twice. There is no actual discussion here, it's people posting garbage. It leans much further right than the rest of the site and doesn't particularly conduct discussion because dissenting opinions are dogpiled by a thousand memelords posting shit they read on /pol/ without any critical analysis.

The only rules that can be enforced are empirical ones with boolean violation answers. New threads must cite a real source directly and must use the headline of the article as a thread title without any editorializing. Articles must be archived in some way and must link to the original article. Replies that are one word or a reaction images are automatic one-month bans from the board.

I'm creating this now because it seems like this place is here to stay and is one of the largest areas of the entire site. I might as well throw in bare minimum effort to improve it. I don't even try to find mods for here because they will quit, without exception. I've added new prefixes ("Business" and "Crime") just now.

Discuss.


New threads should be made like this.

 

[An Ghost]

I like A&H and use it as my to-go news aggregator.

The best thing about A&H is live updates. Any time there is a big event I love seeing people scour twitter or 4chan or whatever and posting findings here in real time.

I’ve been negative so far but the board is a good thing. It’s the 9 to 5 posters who blow.

I've been negrated twice now in this thread, now I'm getting dogpiled. Where are all the pol kiddies to negrate my detractors away and dogpile them?
I have never been to pol and saying black people aren't more likely to steal is hardly a pol talking point.

Maybe you guys just immediately dismiss anything that doesn't agree with you 100 percent. As you just lumped me in with pol due to ????.

This is such school yard bully play the victim bull. I’ve seen your posts and I know you’re exactly the problem people have with this board. Nobody who posts 20 times a day has anything actual to say.

 

[Freedom Fries]

The /pol/ is coming from inside the house

Have you people ever actually been to /pol/? I'm starting to seriously doubt most people claiming A&H is like /pol/ ever have.

 

[Barnard]

The problem isn't "lefties are outnumbered", it's "reasonable political opinions on either side of the aisle are outnumbered by autistic /pol/tards who shriek and throw their own feces when confronted with opinions such as 'I do not believe that genocide is good', 'I believe black people deserve the same rights as white people', or 'I think that there are ways besides violent revolution to deal with our current political issues'."

I would also appreciate some examples, because we seem to have radically different experiences. Aside from obvious jokes, people dreaming about genocide, racial purges, civil wars and such garbage show up occasionally and are summarily given dumb and autistic ratings, and that's the whole story. Like so:

Maybe these sort of people post more often in massive megathreads which I generally don't read because they tend to be massive clusterfucks on many levels, so I might be missing out on some top class stupidity. Please show me.

Of course the board is overall very heavily right- or Republican-leaning and you're likely to trigger people by talking about welfare or protecting the environment or whatnot, but that's not the same thing.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Lol this is just not true. Those idiots mostly exist after discussion has ended, otherwise they're told to fuck off from both sides. But why not just quote some examples?

Regarding a six-year old being arrested for having a fit, seventh post:

Feral nigger, dumped on Mee-Maw and given a diversity voucher to a charter school, chimps out to the point where the school has the call the police. Police try to scare her straight by doing a fake processing as Mee-Maw wakes up from her afternoon wine nap. Release lil' niglet back into her custody without a hearing.

Mee-Maw goes to the media "She dindu nuffin. She has sleep apnea. She wanna be a musician."

All of you fall for it.

In a thread about the SAS neutralizing an ISIS terrorist op, third post:

5 terrorists in 7 seconds. At that rate it will take them less than 5 minutes to clear all the Remainer and commie trash out of parliament.

And, in fulfillment of the Rule of Three, JohnDoe's big-brain take on a rape victim going public about her experience:

He got the sentence he received (which included lifetime registration as a sex offender, which is worse than five or ten years behind bars IMO) because that's what the sentencing guidelines were for the crimes for which he was convicted, in addition to the recommendations of the state parole department, within the restrictions also set by California's overcrowded prison system.

Furthermore, Judge Persky was well known for being a bleeding heart idealistic liberal, loathe to pass heavy sentences on first time offenders. This had nothing to do with improper conduct, as the state bar and professional organizations can attest.

He was recalled from his position following a strong propaganda campaign by this grifter's adopted aunt, a former Berkeley professor and advocate for campus justice reforms like allowing anonymous accusations decided in secret by a gender studies tribunal to expell male students. She used her ties to the Clinton campaign and California elites to round up a few million dollars by grifting on real rape victims to finance the recall.

As stated upthread, this has nothing to do with actual rape victims, it is only a narrative being used to undermine the foundations of Justice in this country. The progressive stack cannot be incorporated into our courts, and our system cannot be held to the present of woke Twitter mobs. It must be fair to all people, and steadfast in the face of mob rule.

So what you're saying is that we need a "nigger" sticker? Honestly though I do agree that threads would get clogged with one word answers if stuff like agree and disagree were removed. If people are so obsessed with their reactions, maybe a better path would be for A&H ratings not to count toward people's super important made-up online score.


None of the things you mentioned are contentious at all in A&H. 90% if that stuff disagreeing is obviously a joke which is in many ways meant to poke fun at takes like that and/or people saying it because they can't say it elsewhere (at least elsewhere where people aren't actually the scary neon-nazis some people wrongly believe to inhabit this sub). I think a lot of people complaining about a right wing circle jerk and being "dogpiled" should just use r/politics if they can't take a couple "downvotes." You will find what you're looking for there, and I don't think this site has the set-up to match that type of forum anyway.

If you consistently "joke" about holding radical political opinions, defend those position when people disagree, and only say you were joking when called out, others are going to doubt the sincerity of your jokes.

 

[It's HK-47]

Most people with leftist opinions have been run off or just don’t want to deal with the constant neg ratings anymore.

I'm incredibly Left-leaning and I've never had a problem in here. I'm mistaken for someone with a heavy Right-leaning bias all the time, but that's largely because I spend so much time railing on the DNC, because the current DNC isn't the one that I remember voting for and I absolutely hate what the party's turned into. A well-funded military, border enforcement, deportation of illegals and limited regulation/small government used to be Left-leaning opinions or in the very least bipartisan ones, and now all of those will get you labeled as a Mega Hitler. My politics never changed, the modern Left changed.

I'm still a tree-hugging Liberal who wants to see more things done to curb pollution and to see green energy technology grow by leaps and bounds, but I also understand that the technology just isn't there yet to make it a viable solution to the entire country's energy requirements. The issue that other Left-leaning people have when they come into A&H and have a bad experience is that they take things way too personally and they aren't good at presenting their arguments. From a lefty to a lefty: You are a bit of a bleeding heart.

That's not inherently a bad thing at all, but it does mean that there are a lot of appeals to emotion and arguments framed around emotion. A&H doesn't generally care for that and prefers sourced arguments or arguments that aren't laden with "I don't like X because it makes me feel bad." The culture of this board just doesn't trend in that direction, much the same way that the culture of other boards will change drastically from thread-to-thread. What "flies" in the Hamber board won't work in CWC's, which won't work in Phil's, which won't work in Hulkamania, etc. Every board has a different "culture" and A&H's is primarily unemotional text-walls and political shitposting.

The Christchurch thread was an absolute shit-show, but that was also a massive, internationally-recognized incident and an historical precedent that caused an enormous amount of strife and also drew KF into the spotlight when Null defied the New Zealand government. That pulled in a ton of edge-posters, but they barely did anything more than register for an account, post "muslims aren't human lol" and then leave. The people who shat up the Christchurch thread the most aren't people who stuck around.

Sure, there's loads of pointless replies and "haha niggers" posts in A&H and jokes that ran out their welcome 50 pages ago, but that's literally any thread on the entire Farms. Go look at Boogie's thread or Amber's subforum for example. You still see "Boogie is fat and I would not have sex with him." or "Hamber show us your LAYYRRGGS" on every single page. You just gotta' do the same thing here that you do in those boards: Just keep scrolling, they're not worth reading or getting upset about.

 

[HeyYou]

If you consistently "joke" about holding radical political opinions, defend those position when people disagree, and only say you were joking when called out, others are going to doubt the sincerity of your jokes.

The posts you listed got a fair number of dumb and autistic ratings.

 

[Barnard]

The posts you listed got a fair number of dumb and autistic ratings.

Yeah, that's the key observation here. They're examples meant to prove the existence of some sort of Nazi circlejerk here, but instead they're highly controversial at best, and universally bashed at worst. They don't prove anything, other than maybe the fact that the majority of users giving ratings don't appreciate exceptional opinions or obvious bait.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Most people with leftist opinions have been run off or just don’t want to deal with the constant neg ratings anymore.

Can you people stop complaining over negative ratings? It's truly unreal that so many in here care so much about them.

Honestly, it's as if some Kiwi Farmers really do care about their reaction scores, or actually get their feelings hurt if they get negative ratings.

Nobody who posts 20 times a day has anything actual to say.

That seems like a very hasty generalization, honestly. I'm sure that there are many even more prolific posters that are generally well-informed.

Regarding a six-year old being arrested for having a fit, seventh post:


In a thread about the SAS neutralizing an ISIS terrorist op, third post:


And, in fulfillment of the Rule of Three, JohnDoe's big-brain take on a rape victim going public about her experience:




If you consistently "joke" about holding radical political opinions, defend those position when people disagree, and only say you were joking when called out, others are going to doubt the sincerity of your jokes.

The first and third post in this citation sequence were heavily downvoted, which certainly doesn't imply some consensus agreement with them. The second one, about the SAS, was clearly an off-the-cuff joke that you didn't like for whatever reason.

What is it with the people that complain about A&H and this seeming persecution complex they seem to have concerning it?

 

[Absolutego]

That seems like a very hasty generalization, honestly. I'm sure that there are many even more prolific posters that are generally well-informed.

No, the 9-5 posters who clutter every thread with the same hot takes are 100% the problem with this place. One Boomer lurking here 24/7 and farming easy reaction scores across multiple accounts turns every thread into an awful circlejerk, and then when someone posts a comment mildly outside the Overton Window here they get spammed with varying flavors of "haha get rekt libtard" and move on elsewhere.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

The first and third post in this citation sequence were heavily downvoted, which certainly doesn't imply some consensus agreement with them.

Among the general population of Farms posters; if you look at the ratio, you'll see there's a fair number of people who are upvoting them, which suggests that the issue is a bit more than just one or two people. I'd say there's a distinct cadre of posters that objectively shit up A&H (which others here are calling the 9-5 posters). I will fully yield, however, that this cadre probably isn't the majority: that was a case of me making a hasty generalization, and I apologize.

 

[Sm0kINHaZefEEliNBlaZEd]

Well Null, you wanted engagement and debate between people with different views, and here is the result. Seventeen plus pages of sperging and derailment, and nothing gained... In all seriousness, I'm struggling to think of a place on the web that isn't like this. Whenever you combine politics and the internet it either devolves into mass sperging or it becomes a giant hugbox. And that's not a function of "insert current year", that's the way it's been since at least the early 2000's, when I was posting on totse and other, now defunct, forums.

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

No, the 9-5 posters who clutter every thread with the same hot takes are 100% the problem with this place. One Boomer lurking here 24/7 and farming easy reaction scores across multiple accounts turns every thread into an awful circlejerk, and then when someone posts a comment mildly outside the Overton Window here they get spammed with varying flavors of "haha get rekt libtard" and move on elsewhere.

Get rekt libtard.

 

[Freedom Fries]

No, the 9-5 posters who clutter every thread with the same hot takes are 100% the problem with this place. One Boomer lurking here 24/7 and farming easy reaction scores across multiple accounts turns every thread into an awful circlejerk, and then when someone posts a comment mildly outside the Overton Window here they get spammed with varying flavors of "haha get rekt libtard" and move on elsewhere.

Do you honestly believe anyone cares enough about stickers to make sock accounts to get them? If you have evidence of anyone doing something that pathetic, please point them out so we can all point and laugh.

 

[Absolutego]

Do you honestly believe anyone cares enough about stickers to make sock accounts to get them? If you have evidence of anyone doing something that pathetic please point them out so we can all point and laugh.

I phrased that poorly, I wasn't referring to sock accounts so much as the fact that Corbin Dallas Multipass keeps re-regging after multiple bans. Him and a few other Boomers that joined the Farms during the Kavanaugh hearing are the biggest contributors to the current circlejerk, by my estimation. It was when we had to make a dedicated AOC thread and it was subsequently filled with Facebook tier Boomer memes that I realized we had a problem.

 

[Prof. Loco]

Not surprised there's mods, how else are you going to get threads moved to other areas and merge double posters?

 

[Nobunaga]

Most people with leftist opinions have been run off or just don’t want to deal with the constant neg ratings anymore.

If you seriously consider and im gonna say it again FUCKING IMAGINARY POINTS important you are better off in shitholes like plebbit or killing yourself because its pathetic

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

No, the 9-5 posters who clutter every thread with the same hot takes are 100% the problem with this place. One Boomer lurking here 24/7 and farming easy reaction scores across multiple accounts turns every thread into an awful circlejerk, and then when someone posts a comment mildly outside the Overton Window here they get spammed with varying flavors of "haha get rekt libtard" and move on elsewhere.

I'm sure you can provide an example of this, very easily in fact.

Y'know, since A&H is such a right-wing hugbox.

I phrased that poorly, I wasn't referring to sock accounts so much as the fact that Corbin Dallas Multipass keeps re-regging after multiple bans. Him and a few other Boomers that joined the Farms during the Kavanaugh hearing are the biggest contributors to the current circlejerk, by my estimation. It was when we had to make a dedicated AOC thread and it was subsequently filled with Facebook tier Boomer memes that I realized we had a problem.

Again, I'm sure you can provide just one example of "Facebook tier Boomer memes".

 

[X Prime]

If you seriously consider and im gonna say it again FUCKING IMAGINARY POINTS important you are better off in shitholes like plebbit or killing yourself because its pathetic

I maintain that anyone bitching consistently about how people use stickers, except maybe pointing and laughing at someone being assblasted enough to dig through ancient posts to negrate as if that means anything, should be banned from the rating system.

They are obviously too invested in it.

 

[Dynastier]

Regarding a six-year old being arrested for having a fit, seventh post:


In a thread about the SAS neutralizing an ISIS terrorist op, third post:


And, in fulfillment of the Rule of Three, JohnDoe's big-brain take on a rape victim going public about her experience:




If you consistently "joke" about holding radical political opinions, defend those position when people disagree, and only say you were joking when called out, others are going to doubt the sincerity of your jokes.

I am willing to bet those comments were downvoted or ignored though. And some of this is just "i don't like their opinions."

But I'm part of the problem so I guess I am not fit to discuss it. I'm sure if you kick everyone out of this conversation eventually it'll agree with you. Apparently I'm a schoolyard bully now somehow...

 

[Freedom Fries]

I phrased that poorly, I wasn't referring to sock accounts so much as the fact that Corbin Dallas Multipass keeps re-regging after multiple bans. Him and a few other Boomers that joined the Farms during the Kavanaugh hearing are the biggest contributors to the current circlejerk, by my estimation. It was when we had to make a dedicated AOC thread and it was subsequently filled with Facebook tier Boomer memes that I realized we had a problem.

I think CDM is hilarious and this place wouldn't be very fun at all without his and others like him occasionally having a tism fit. Try pointing and laughing instead of being mad