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I'm just waiting for the point where Corey is just walking poison to the industry and gets barred.
Dramacow Coraline Ada Ehmke / Corey Dale Ehmke - tl;dr Rules for thee but not for me
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I fully support this license. It nicely flags all software written by histrionic morons who are likely to cause you nothing but trouble if you ever touch their shitty code. No company in their right mind would touch anything with this clause in the license agreement. No individual either.
I did like the "underprivileged" get out clause. Gotta be able to bash white men on their blogs without fear of retribution.
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I was skimming through this thread and I saw this. Horrifying rates through the roof. Also, I'm pretty sure Anita sarkeesian and her two orbiters had this exact thing going on. It got pretty famous when someone made more accurate depictions.
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That reminds me of a FOSS tool I came across maybe a decade ago which had a license which said that it couldn't be used by people and agencies associated with Israel because of the oppression of Palestinians or something like that.
On the one hand, I think people should be able to dictate the rules under which your software may be used, no matter how dumb those rules may be, but on the other hand, I doubt your average FOSS hacker has the resources to file suit against the Mossad or wahtever, and if you can't practically enforce those rules via civil court, then what's the point? Oh, woke points, right. I forgot.
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Protest licenses like this are considered the same as other licenses with usage clauses according to the FSF. To them it was no different than a license that straight up disallows commercial use/distribution, requires sending all modified versions to the original developer, or prohibited inclusion on a free software CD-ROM. Hell there's even a page on the FSF's site that shits on a protest license made by the cDc years ago with noble intentions.
People like Corey don't give a shit about FOSS, they only give a shit about being a woke activist somewhere. They're the types of people who release code under the GPL then shit themselves when you redistribute compiled development builds or fork it.
One old /g/ or /tech/ conspiracy theory I remember reading once said that diversity in tech is really just a push to justify hiring cheap Indian h1b labor since they are considered diverse too. Companies usually get blasted for replacing talent with H1Bs as they force their talented workers to train their cheap outsourced replacements, but with dangerhairs they can genuinely make the excuse that "nobody we hired from colleges in America was good enough for us and all the greybeards are old and dying". Plus they can't get sued by h1b workers, if they quit they have to go back. Troons on the other hand will tear your company down over the most minor shit.
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Inexperienced developers who don't do proper license review can cause problems especially at young companies at exit- a good audit for IPO or acquisition should review all the external libraries used in the software stack to ensure it's all true FOSS. Depending on how fucked up the license is, it could make a business unsellable since non-FOSS licenses often mean "you don't really own it". People who put shitty non-FOSS licenses into previously FOSS projects are often doing it intentionally to hurt the tech industry (while calling themselves techno-anarchists or some shit).
Rei is shit
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"Consider the GPS software that tells you how to get to a restaurant; it’s also used to direct military drones to their targets. "
No its not you dumb fake bitch
No its not you dumb fake bitch
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they both use electricity to power their computers, YA BURNT"Consider the GPS software that tells you how to get to a restaurant; it’s also used to direct military drones to their targets. "
No its not you dumb fake bitch
This is more or less a meaningful request (not a demand, mind you), politely expressed too. Ready dev builds with the authors contact details are likely to cause non-developers use the software, run into issues and create quite some pain in the arse for the developer.
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Its weird that slapping a legal document that follows the open source standard onto some code has become a bit of a trend.
You'd think that people would pick a license that they would agree on, but so many of these people really couldn't give much of a shit as to what it means, all so they can claim to be a part of a community.
But now that they have come to terms with the fact that they disagree with the license that they chose in the first place, they want a license that allows them to restrict who can use it, and since that isn't considered open source which means "I wont be a part of this special community that I want to have a stranglehold on", then I assume that they would want to change the definition.
You would think, realistically that if a person wanted to make a ton of money from every business using their software, and wanted complete control on who uses it, that you'd go for a proprietary license.
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You know how the fact that nobody reads license agreements has become somewhat of a tech meme? The same thing applies to the FOSS community. Before dangerhairs were creating protest licenses, big corporations that were hostile to open source (or who were dragged into it) would create open source licenses with plenty of clauses restricting the use of said code. There's also the fact that they don't realize FOSS licenses give others the right to fork it or use it in places they might not approve of it. Not even Larry Ellison could shut down open source projects after the Sun buyout, they were just forked instead.
When troons don't realize that FOSS doesn't give them total control they have a meltdown. They make protest licenses with clauses, not being around for the time when companies like MS made licenses with no commercial use clauses. Then when they get rebuffed by the FSF and OSI, open source is a problem and must be replaced with their own restricted version of it. They're only interested in the FOSS movement so they can clout chase while LARPing as activists, and also get some free development help on the side as well.
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Fuck it, just go ahead and expand the H-1B program as much as necessary to get these fuckers out.
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Well as long as anyone in regards to H-1B doesn't have a strong social media presence or a foothold in any related community when it comes to discussions in open source, then it probably wouldn't affect any of these people who simply want everyone to bend over for them.
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Corey has been angry that the OSI won't cave to his demands.
As open source is problematic because ICE uses it, it has to go and be replaced with a new definition. ICE used FOSS software and therefore nobody should be able to use FOSS licenses without clauses.
He linked to this Twitter thread on his license site.
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There aren't too many orbiters of Corey replying but this is a notable one:
What's interesting is who he works for. He works at MasterCard, a credit card processor known for financial censorship and having a human rights committee.
As open source is problematic because ICE uses it, it has to go and be replaced with a new definition. ICE used FOSS software and therefore nobody should be able to use FOSS licenses without clauses.
He linked to this Twitter thread on his license site.
The Hippocratic License: An Ethical Open Source License
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There aren't too many orbiters of Corey replying but this is a notable one:
What's interesting is who he works for. He works at MasterCard, a credit card processor known for financial censorship and having a human rights committee.
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Corey has been angry that the OSI won't cave to his demands.
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As open source is problematic because ICE uses it, it has to go and be replaced with a new definition. ICE used FOSS software and therefore nobody should be able to use FOSS licenses without clauses.
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He linked to this Twitter thread on his license site.
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The Hippocratic License: An Ethical Open Source License
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There aren't too many orbiters of Corey replying but this is a notable one:
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What's interesting is who he works for. He works at MasterCard, a credit card processor known for financial censorship and having a human rights committee.
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Man, Corey is really showing off his pro-corporatist attitude directly these days. Corporations aren't the bad guys, it's the government!
lol what a naive faggot, go kys
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It's telling that she can't just license her code with her new pet license, announce it to the world, and be done with it. She has to go to some other organization that she has decided is significant and change a crucial part of the way they work and have worked for years to match her goals.
That's a pattern we've seen before, isn't it?
That Soren guy is right, though. At the end of the day, if ICE uses your code anyway, what can you do about it? Are you going to take a well-funded branch of the federal government (and one that I presume already has a lot of lawyers) to court and win? Even if you did, do you think they'd stop? Per capita, I'm sure government employees are the nation's most prolific lawbreakers.
If you don't like what ICE does, it would be more effective to use your talents (if you have any) to write software which contravenes what they do. I don't know, build campaign web sites for pro-open-borders candidates or write an app which helps immigrants find sanctuary cities and apply for gibs or whatnot.
That's a pattern we've seen before, isn't it?
That Soren guy is right, though. At the end of the day, if ICE uses your code anyway, what can you do about it? Are you going to take a well-funded branch of the federal government (and one that I presume already has a lot of lawyers) to court and win? Even if you did, do you think they'd stop? Per capita, I'm sure government employees are the nation's most prolific lawbreakers.
If you don't like what ICE does, it would be more effective to use your talents (if you have any) to write software which contravenes what they do. I don't know, build campaign web sites for pro-open-borders candidates or write an app which helps immigrants find sanctuary cities and apply for gibs or whatnot.
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Nothing. ICE and the federal government in general, including the military, could quite simply ignore your restrictions and use it anyway. If you objected, you could file a claim in the Court of Federal Claims for financial compensation, if applicable, but you could not obtain an injunction against them doing it.
So this troon can go fuck himself.
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"We don’t want our tech to be used to commit atrocities."
There's a very good chance if some code is being used by people committing really awful shit like war crimes, massacres and such that they probably aren't the type of people that would follow a legal document.
I could point out North Korea with their operating system based off of Fedora, there is a very good chance that they're distributing modified software but the GPL doesn't stop them.
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Red Hat's CEO should fly to North Korea and personally shoot Kim Jong Un.