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[Garm]

We also may not get any results of the mediation til they stand before the judge and say whether they settled.

 

[I can't imagine]

Chupp's rulling affects what? There's going to be an appeal either way. Who gets the best situation for appeal based on who Chupp Sides with.

Most likely scenarios would be:

1. Everything is dismissed. Vic has to appeal on all claims, and pretty much everything gets ruled for a second time.

2. Part of it is dismissed. One or more defendants remaining files an appeal, Vic files a cross-appeal, and pretty much everything gets ruled for a second time.

There is a slim chance that nothing gets dismissed, but that would have the same result as 2. Potentially, if everything is dismissed, Vic might choose to not appeal, though I don't know how likely that actually is.

Beyond that, the more claims that remain, the less #LawTwitter will brag about how awesomely right they are, which might be annoying but doesn't really affect the results in any practical way.

 

[ThonyTheThaigirl]

I think that is why Ron wanted to go on MBA's show. He was going to spin the mediation.



Is Ben Lamoreux associated with Rooster Teeth? He has Camp Camp as his banner. I'm half tempted to break my promise due to his douchebaggery.

Unless Nintendo Enthusiast has ties to RT then no, I wouldn't say so. I bet the dude would be incredibly easy to dox, honestly. He lives like 20 miles from me lmao

 

[Superman93]

Nick should stop sperging out on twitter. You don't have to engage in every uneducated stupid take some random retard says.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

The suffering of lawtwitter sustains me.

 

[Garm]

Unless Nintendo Enthusiast has ties to RT then no, I wouldn't say so. I bet the dude would be incredibly easy to dox, honestly. He lives like 20 miles from me lmao

Hmmm.

Nick should stop sperging out on twitter. You don't have to engage in every uneducated stupid take some random exceptional individual says.

They're going after his families trust fund again. And getting pretty stupid about it.

There really isn't a good way to fight misinformation on Twitter.

 

[In Heaven]

From what I can tell, we'll only hear of what went on during mediation if no one agreed to an NDA prior to the beginning of the mediation. Unless they decided on an NDA before starting the mediations, we'll likely hear on it from Nick via Ty or Ty himself as a guest on Nick's stream in the event that there's no agreements. Anything we hear would come after Chupp's judgements so no one could argue that it wasn't a good faith mediation.

No, there won't be any transcript of it.

My guess is that we'll probably hear general stuff at most. "Vic did well," "Ron sat there and cried the whole time," "Jamie flashed the mediator and traumatized him with her saggy tits," "Funi's rep tried to slit their wrists"... stuff like that.

 

[Stoneheart]

The idea is that the person Chupp handpicked as the mediator might talk to Chupp about the parties behavior under the table and that may sway the outcome a little of his judgement hence why the parties should stay on their best behaviour till judgement.

can they get the mediator to talk infront of a jury? that would maybe come in handy later.

 

[HighwayStar]

Hmmm.



They're going after his families trust fund again. And getting pretty stupid about it.

There really isn't a good way to fight misinformation on Twitter.

I really wish Nick would just ignore those idiots, but at the same time the last thing I’d want to be accused of is violating trust funds, so I can understand why he would be so hostile towards them.

Is this guy for real? Motherfucker, how is Nick supposed to know what went on in mediation if it’s confidential, there’s no transcript and Nick’s in freaking Hawaii? God, these people are so stupid.

 

[ThonyTheThaigirl]

Hmmm.



They're going after his families trust fund again. And getting pretty stupid about it.

There really isn't a good way to fight misinformation on Twitter.

Well, not sure if he lives at this address now, but he at least grew up there, as corroborated by his brother's facebook pics.

Address

Both him and his brother look and seem equally spergy. I have roughly zero doxxing skills, so this is about as much as I've got lol. All I know is I've seen this dumb faggot running his mouth for months and months now and he's one of the most insufferable motherfuckers I've seen. Don't know why, but there's just something about him.

 

[AnOminous]

can they get the mediator to talk infront of a jury? that would maybe come in handy later.

No it's all completely inadmissible. Why would people mediate if it could all just be used against them?

I mean they won't anyway but nobody would if any offer of compromise could just be exploited.

 

[Allanon]

The only way we're learning about the mediation is if the defense can't keep their mouths shut. Nick already confirmed, I think on a Twitch stream, that if the defense talks, Ty talks. Which means we'll probably learn what happens fairly soon, because the defense has a physical disability that prevents them from not talking. It's just a matter of how long they can stay quiet.

 

[Super Smelly Vagina]

I will repeat myself but...
If Michelle was on board from the begining, Monica wouldn't have said that she "acted like nothing happened" during the phone call with her after the alledged room incident. If Monica said such a thing, that's because she didn't know, when she made up that story, on which side Michelle would be. Michelle is just using all this to smear Vic.

Michelle would basically have to say, "I was well aware that Vic attempted to rape my friend Monica but I continued to live with him for another ten years and even got engaged to him. I was never at all bothered by this attempted rape, up until twelve years after the incident took place and after my engagement to Vic ended." That whole premise is full of holes.

That's why Monica almost always said that "nobody knew." It's much easier to say that a person "didn't know" rather than claiming that they knew about something as horrific as a rape happening but mysteriously failing to say or do anything about it and acting as if nothing had happened. Just look how the Stan Dahlin thing backfired on her.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

At this point, the only thing besides mediation that interests me is what Vic is think of the situation at this point. We already know about what the tard whores are thinking, since they can't shut their mouths, but holy shit props to Vic for being quiet. It just makes me wonder where his mind is in all this.

Does he still want to be nice?
Has he finally decided to go scorched earth?
Is he just sick of this?

 

[SpiralStars]

Most likely scenarios would be:

1. Everything is dismissed. Vic has to appeal on all claims, and pretty much everything gets ruled for a second time.

2. Part of it is dismissed. One or more defendants remaining files an appeal, Vic files a cross-appeal, and pretty much everything gets ruled for a second time.

There is a slim chance that nothing gets dismissed, but that would have the same result as 2. Potentially, if everything is dismissed, Vic might choose to not appeal, though I don't know how likely that actually is.

Beyond that, the more claims that remain, the less #LawTwitter will brag about how awesomely right they are, which might be annoying but doesn't really affect the results in any practical way.

I'm more asking is Vic's fight to appeal harder than KV's fight? I'm wondering if that will be a factor in Chupp's ruling. Not saying he would, but If he's cya'ing himself he'll give the appeal to the side with the hardest fight. If he is concerned about who can afford it, he may tailor to that. He'll let Jamie & Moronica Walk, might favor Vic wrt Funimation.

The other course is if the mediation might be to figure out who will settle if it does go to appeal. He may give Vic the leg up if he thinks Vic will settle regardless and this puts a strain on the KV side to settle. Basically, he may guage who is the most willing to settle and screw the other side. They idea is they may not settle now but they may settle by the time appeal starts, making the appeal moot.

They may not be able to agree now. But of the two Vic would come to the table willing and KV never would without being forced. If he can crush KV's pretense of a win and then have them face a long drawn out appeal, they may relent.

The idea is that the person Chupp handpicked as the mediator might talk to Chupp about the parties behavior under the table and that may sway the outcome a little of his judgement hence why the parties should stay on their best behaviour till judgement.

Now I'm just a lay person and don't know if discovery can be conducted during appeals for TCPA but if they can and should all three parties remain, Monica, Ron and Funimation's information becomes accessible and I'm certain that Ron and Monica playing discovery games will near immediately bite them in the ass.

Otherwise, appeals happen and the less parties that escape, the less work Ty has to immediately conduct on said appeals.

I'm pretty sure discovery is stayed for the duration of the appeal, unfortunately for Vic.

 

[Mister Y]

Michelle would basically have to say, "I was well aware that Vic attempted to rape my friend Monica but I continued to live with him for another ten years and even got engaged to him. I was never at all bothered by this attempted rape, up until twelve years after the incident took place and after my engagement to Vic ended." That whole premise is full of holes.

That's what everyone in this story does tho (pretend "I was assaulted but I acted like nothing happened because I was affraid").
Why wouldn't Michelle do the exact same thing that Monica, Jamie, the Yost twins, and the others already all do?

Monica, right know, is saying that she knew Vic was a rapist and a pedophile during a decade, yet never said anything to her dear friend Michelle.
Why do you think they would suddently be smarter about that very one detail?

Monica claim that Vic assaulted her, that she then went back to his room, had a phonecall with Michelle, and then spend a decade being friendly with Vic, and you think they thought about how pretending to be crying over the phone wouldn't add up?

PS: There are quite a lot of options between "acting like nothing happened" and "saying to Michelle that she was almost raped" like... "I was crying over the phone, but didn't tell her why" and then, Michelle would have put a nice statement in her affidavit about how Monica seemed very shocked on the phone.

Just look how the Stan Dahlin thing backfired on her.

That bit was stupid. You're saying that she didn't lie about Michelle because it could backfire like it did with Stan... which is a lie from the very same story.

 

[Duke-Diggler]

It really sucks that Chupp chooses to throw shit out without even taking a look at the evidence. But if Vic does choose to appeal, he has more fight within himself than people seem to let on.

And as for nick, he really needs to stop sperging at fucktards. They're not going to be convinced either way, so the only remedy is to just make fun of them.

 

[Garm]

I really wish Nick would just ignore those idiots, but at the same time the last thing I’d want to be accused of is violating trust funds, so I can understand why he would be so hostile towards them.
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Is this guy for real? Motherfucker, how is Nick supposed to know what went on in mediation if it’s confidential, there’s no transcript and Nick’s in freaking Hawaii? God, these people are so stupid.

Nick is supposedly Vic's lawyer. Also supposedly gets paid by Ty. Unfortunately there isn't anything to be done about these idiots.

Well, not sure if he lives at this address now, but he at least grew up there, as corroborated by his brother's facebook pics.

Address

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Both him and his brother look and seem equally spergy. I have roughly zero doxxing skills, so this is about as much as I've got lol. All I know is I've seen this dumb faggot running his mouth for months and months now and he's one of the most insufferable motherfuckers I've seen. Don't know why, but there's just something about him.

Thank you for taking up the crusade good internet person. I sadly cannot do much with the resources at hand.

And yes, he is insufferable. All these jackasses are insufferable.

Michelle would basically have to say, "I was well aware that Vic attempted to rape my friend Monica but I continued to live with him for another ten years and even got engaged to him. I was never at all bothered by this attempted rape, up until twelve years after the incident took place and after my engagement to Vic ended." That whole premise is full of holes.

That's why Monica almost always said that "nobody knew." It's much easier to say that a person "didn't know" rather than claiming that they knew about something as horrific as a rape happening but mysteriously failing to say or do anything about it and acting as if nothing had happened. Just look how the Stan Dahlin thing backfired on her.

Some sped tried to argue with me that victims of sexual assault have either repressed memories or some kind of changes in the brain that makes them pliant to their assailant.

I doubt Monica had Stockholm Syndrome or whatever.

At this point, the only thing besides mediation that interests me is what Vic is think of the situation at this point. We already know about what the tard whores are thinking, since they can't shut their mouths, but holy shit props to Vic for being quiet. It just makes me wonder where his mind is in all this.

Does he still want to be nice?
Has he finally decided to go scorched earth?
Is he just sick of this?

I think Vic is in for the long haul.

Scorched Earth is hard to do when you have to get around a TCPA motion.

 

[BrandedEagle]

It really sucks that Chupp chooses to throw shit out without even taking a look at the evidence. But if Vic does choose to appeal, he has more fight within himself than people seem to let on.

And as for nick, he really needs to stop sperging at fucktards. They're not going to be convinced either way, so the only remedy is to just make fun of them.

thats.... what he does.

are you daft or something?

 

[Spectre_06]

Now I'm just a lay person and don't know if discovery can be conducted during appeals for TCPA but if they can and should all three parties remain, Monica, Ron and Funimation's information becomes accessible and I'm certain that Ron and Monica playing discovery games will near immediately bite them in the ass.

It can't. Appeals will stay discovery on TCPA because the same rules technically apply. However, since MoRon have one day to comply with the previous discovery, Ty can decide to compel it even if they file their appeal on Tuesday, because they have failed to comply in any case, and it can mean sanctions. At least that's my reading of the rules concerning TCPA and discovery.

Nick should stop sperging out on twitter. You don't have to engage in every uneducated stupid take some random exceptional individual says.

I think he's been bored in Hawaii.

can they get the mediator to talk infront of a jury? that would maybe come in handy later.

No. Mediation is considered privileged. It's why technically judges shouldn't know what was said or by whom in mediation and they can't use the mediation as a weapon for either party against the other.

The only way we're learning about the mediation is if the defense can't keep their mouths shut. Nick already confirmed, I think on a Twitch stream, that if the defense talks, Ty talks. Which means we'll probably learn what happens fairly soon, because the defense has a physical disability that prevents them from not talking. It's just a matter of how long they can stay quiet.

If Shane or Douchette get even an iota correct on what was talked about in mediation and pass it off as fact--and both are known liars with Douchette being a literal paid shill/agent for MoRon--then I expect Ty will spill the beans simply because Ron in particular has a habit of talking about this shit to them.

Does he still want to be nice?
Has he finally decided to go scorched earth?
Is he just sick of this?

Vic's too nice. He's a good Christian man, so I wouldn't be surprised if he still wants to hurt Monica and Jaime very little but hit FUNimation the most. That being said, every person has their breaking point and I think he's close to it. Letting your rage fester and bottling it up is something you should never do, which is why when pshrinks see passive-aggressive individuals they try to coach them on finding a release, usually by talking to the people who are causing said rage to build up.