Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Creep3r]

So it looks like we may finally have the name of the forest/Resistance planet in IX based on Monopoly's newest SW game. Its called "Rian Kloss"...

For real? Only reason I'm not skeptical about this bullshit is that every other planet mentioned on the board game is a location from the films rather than the DisneyEU and what we can make out from the cap is that Rian Kloss has a bunch of the same old Rebel equipment that Disney keeps recycling for the not-Rebel scenes in their films.

So if the Resistance planet in IX ain't Batuu/Galaxy's Edge... What the fuck was the point of that park? You mean to tell me its not even a location in IX? Just what the fuck were they thinking?

As for the subject of Harry Potter, I found the first book/film to be pretty enjoyable. The second was okay. The rest were just meh, terrible, predictable and/or poorly structured while failing to properly set up the world. I guess the appeal of the first book and maybe the second were that they were sort of like a wizard-y version of the Hardy Boys or Tintin, with mysteries to solve and things to learn around every corner, but then the mystery element is completely lost as the answer to every mystery is "Voldemort did it" while more focus is put on poorly scripted action. Didn't take long for Rowling to write herself into a featureless corner.

Are Porgs still a thing? Seems I haven't heard anything about them since Ep 8 was shat out

From what I understand, Han the Porg will be in the movie to some small extent since one of the "Journey to IX" comics is about the Porg becoming nu-Chewie's official partner and beloved by everyone.

Anyway, the new SW IX Golden Book came out today, with the shitty Golden Books usually having spoilers to the main films like that Wreck it Ralph 2 book which spoiled that film's ending and key plot points, so I'm going to scout around for any spoilers from it that might get posted, as well as for any new info on Exogol.

Edit:

Sad news fellas

Diahann Carroll, best known as the waifu/cyberfleshlight Chewbacca's senile father, passed away today

Let us think back to that beautiful epoch...that happy and innocent age when people were naive enough to think *this* was the worst thing to ever happen to star wars...

Good night sweet cyber-th0t. May sprays of wookie jizz lull you to your sleep...

Its as if a thousand horny wookiees and twi'leks were suddenly silenced... Seriously though, RIP you digital angel. May you be remembered for your talent as well as your activism and charity in helping cancer victims.

Double Edit:
Sweet fuck. "SW cooking supplies for the nerdy ladies like Miss Kennedy! Teehee!" ... Can Disney-Lucasfilm make it any more blatant that they're trying to turn SW into a lifestyle brand while showing just how out of touch they are with the rest of the world?

This is just Spaceballs-tier merch. It wouldn't honestly be so damn corny if they didn't show this off with "epic music", as if buying this shit somehow makes you a badass.

 

[Tour of Italy]

Double Edit:
Sweet fuck. SW cooking supplies... Can Disney-Lucasfilm make it any more blatant that they're trying to turn SW into a lifestyle brand?

I remember seeing the BB-8 branded oranges around the time VII came out. That was the moment I realized that hey, maybe Disney is not going to be a very good steward of this property.

EDIT:
These are not the actions of a company that cares about creative vision.

 

[Antipathy]

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I remember seeing the BB-8 branded oranges around the time VII came out. That was the moment I realized that hey, maybe Disney is not going to be a very good steward of this property.

EDIT:
These are not the actions of a company that cares about creative vision.
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I remember seeing that sort of shit shortly after TLJ, and I intentionally went around it to buy the not branded version.

 

[Creep3r]

Did some scouting. Looks like nobody has yet posted anything on the Empire Magazine or the new Golden Book shit.

However, someone did post one page from the golden book which confirms one of the leaks, the one about the Knights of Ren being on not-Tatooine 2/Pasaana, which further lends credence to one of them being the "Sith assassin" who kills the informant with a sith dagger. Maybe Matt Smith's character? Then again, the Entertainment magazine had them on the desert planet set so this may not count entirely. But since they're in the middle of Burning Man, its safe to say that them crashing the party is legit.

Also a bunch of trading cards came out for the Knights of Ren but none of them are given names yet, they're just individually called "Knight of Ren".

I also have some spoilers.

This is Ackbar's replacement in IX which was leaked in the original costume leak from a few months back that showed crazy frog for the first time. I'll say the same thing I said then, he looks disgusting and they gave him a disgusting human skin-tone like every other nu-alien in Disney Wars. Some at the time had doubts and said it was only a placeholder color due to the colormap on his chest, but it looks like this really is his final color...

What is it with Disney making ugly versions of old aliens and giving them human skin tones? It makes the fucker look like a weird penis. Also a new IX novel was released yesterday which I didn't even hear about until now. Such brilliant marketing. Anyway, the book mentions a character called Aftab Ackbar... If this new shitty Ackbar replacement is indeed Ackbar's relative, than this may confirm the other shitty leak from months back about Ackbar's newphew being his replacement. Do they have like backup Ackbars for every time a new one dies to fill the exact same niche and roll? Did they put any thought into this at all? Chances are this dumb fucker won't do anything in the film and will just give some instructions before fading into the background with no explanation as to who he is, since JJ and Lucasfilm will probably expect us to read a book about him. Or worse, they'll just do a repeat of ROTJ's space fight and have him say "THIS IS A RUSE!". As if JJ's shit couldn't feel more like a knockoff than it already did.

Also another old rumor/leak is confirmed in that Wedge is officially in IX...

Just go all out with these memberberries why doncha while forsaking any originality and familiarity where it does count, like familiar aliens. The technology is exactly the fucking same as it was 30 years ago with the only change being usage of crappier droids but all familiar aliens have disappeared. And for some reason according to Galaxy's Edge and these films, there's only two handfuls of inhabited planets now. So is the Disney EU just a load of bunk, especially since the only thing from it to get referenced in these shitty films is the Adventures of Space Aladdin which only had like 4 or so planets plus Tatooine? Also I can only wonder how they plan to rape Wedge in this one. Maybe just kill him off for cheap dramatic effect.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

Disney Star Wars is like borderline retarded ape boyfriend fucking his smaller girlfriend(fans)..

He, without any awareness, aggresively girates into her. Meanwhile, she is blurting out "stop you're hurting me."

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Also another old rumor/leak is confirmed in that Wedge is officially in IX...
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He dodged getting ganked by Kylo in the first few minutes of TFA so how long is he going to last here?

 

[Tour of Italy]

Did some scouting. Looks like nobody has yet posted anything on the Empire Magazine or the new Golden Book shit.

However, someone did post one page from the golden book which confirms one of the leaks, the one about the Knights of Ren being on not-Tatooine 2/Pasaana, which further lends credence to one of them being the "Sith assassin" who kills the informant with a sith dagger. Maybe Matt Smith's character? Then again, the Entertainment magazine had them on the desert planet set so this may not count entirely. But since they're in the middle of Burning Man, its safe to say that them crashing the party is legit.
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Also a bunch of trading cards came out for the Knights of Ren but none of them are given names yet, they're just individually called "Knight of Ren".

I also have some spoilers.

This is Ackbar's replacement in IX which was leaked in the original costume leak from a few months back that showed crazy frog for the first time. I'll say the same thing I said then, he looks disgusting and they game him a disgusting human skin-tone like every other nu-alien in Disney Wars. Some at the time had doubts and said it was only a placeholder color due to the colormap on his chest, but it looks like this really is his final color...
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What is it with Disney making ugly versions of old aliens and giving them human skin tones? It makes the fucker look like a weird penis. Also a new IX novel was released yesterday which I didn't even hear about until now. Such brilliant marketing. Anyway, the book mentions a character called Aftab Ackbar... If these new shitty Ackbar replacement is indeed Ackbar's relative, than this may confirm the other shitty leak from months back about Ackbar's newphew being his replacement. Do they have like backup Ackbars for every time a new one dies? Did they put any thought into this at all? Chances are this dumb fucker won't do anything in the film and will just give some instructions before fading into the background with no explanation as to who he is, since JJ and Lucasfilm will probably expect us to read a book about him.

Also another old rumor/leak is confirmed in that Wedge is officially in IX...
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Just go all out with these memberberries why doncha while forsaking any originality and familiarity where it does count, like familiar aliens. The technology is exactly the fucking same as it was 30 years ago with the only change being usage of crappier droids but all familiar aliens have disappeared. And for some reason according to Galaxy's Edge and these films, there's only two handfuls of inhabited planets now. So is the Disney EU just a load of bunk, especially since the only thing from it to get referenced in these shitty films is the Adventures of Space Aladdin which only had like 4 or so planets plus Tatooine? Also I can only wonder how they plan to rape Wedge in this one. Maybe just kill him off for cheap dramatic effect.

This is all just depressing. They really just don’t respect the average Star Wars fan. They think their attachment to the IP is just based on old familiar branding. I can’t blame them; people were so excited that the series was revived that they were packing rooms at Comicons, clapping and barking like seals at every familiar detail. Disney was exceptional to think that was as deep as it went. Their whole business model is just updating shit people already know, and in this case they can’t even manage to do it right.

Maybe I’m the exceptional one for wanting something more, or at least for expecting it. Everyone’s got an idealized version of Star Wars in their heads, it’s impossible to try something new and please everyone. But I’d take someone’s flawed vision over the property being treated and marketed like a product. And they’ve failed so completely at the fundamentals that all the branding bullshit feels especially idiotic and cynical.

The strength of Star War’s atmosphere has always been the story behind the story; the interesting events playing out in the background, and the idea that if you turned the camera a different direction, you’d capture something just as unique. My favorite details of the OT and even the prequels are the ones that hint at a living breathing world, and I think that’s a big part of what captivates people about the series. Instead, what we’re getting are the same surface level details and story beats chewed up and recycled without care or originality.

Sorry to rant, I just like Star Wars.

 

[Antipathy]

I've capped all of the relevant leaks and spoilers I could get my hands on, here's what I've got so far. These leaks should piece everything together, or at least give a close enough synopsis of the full plot.
I'm including the post from P709 just because I don't want it to get lost.

 

[BScCollateral]

... like trying to make Goebbels responsible for everything Hitler did all the way back to WWI and landscape paintings.

Hey, Chaplin's Great Dictator was a pretty good film.

 

[Safir]

When the original shows of He-Man and Ninja Turtles were made, they started with the toys, Mattel had a bunch of plastic action figures and ordered a show to advertise them . . . and the animation studio had to make a TV show around these designs and did such a great job, these blatant commercials have become beloved IPs.
Star Wars now tries to throw literally anything they can think of at the screen and they fail.
Say what you want about Ewoks and how they don't fit into SW, they were marketable as fuck.

The market for toys has changed. Before, they'd be making them for the kids to play with. Kids must want these characters and find them appropriate for the kind of stories they want to imagine. The morality guardians were actual censors, uninvolved with content creation. Now the toys and stories are made by censors and targeted at adult neotenic lifestyle "geeks" and influencers, because adults have more disposable income. But it turns out adults don't walk the walk, and they've lost the next generation of prospective fans. Thinking back to fountain pens, I wouldn't be buying rare Sailors today if Dad didn't give me a Wing Sung for my sixth birthday. Star Wars is finished.

And there's the sheer incompetence. Decades of consumer research taught us aliens come in bright colors and misshapen flesh is gross. Why all the dickheads? Lgbtbbqs want fuckable representation. The manbearpigs of nuwars aren't hot even by furry standards. "We have gay characters, they're ugly and gross, just like you!" On what planet is this a good sales pitch?

Ewoks are characters. You might not like their subplot, but small furry aliens fit into Star Wars no worse than a large furry alien. They're one metre high, of appropriate scale to interact with the other characters and go on adventures. They're proof human children are tall enough for Star Wars.
Porgs are food.

Anakin grew stronger over the course of the Prequels, exponentially so, but he had the justification of being trained by the Jedi for years. [Luke]... had the justification of being trained directly by Yoda, the fucking grandmaster of the Jedi order.

Rey has survived duels with multiple opponents who want her dead with no support or training whatsoever, and has grown even more and more powerful from her absurd starting point over the course of HOURS, having only a seriously out of character Luke give her no lessons whatsoever.

I don't think awesome training is a good defense against Suedom. Rey's background is certainly lazier and feeds into the "lel it's dumb action, no one cares, switch off your brain and consume" mentality. What really makes Luke a great character, and what is totally absent from Harry Potter or Korra, is this:

Luke clearly grew more powerful over the OT, but he survived his first (and possibly his second) duel with Vader since Vader wanted him alive anyway.

Even with all his personal and, uh, professional growth, being in the heart of the events by chance and by blood, he still remains something of an outsider thrust into bigger things. He's unlikely to beat Vader in a fight to the death and he definitely can't beat the Emperor. I don't think it's something children can appreciate, being inundated with epic tweeeests from the time mom's tit gets switched for a bottle and not particularly fond of retrospection. "He has to win! Yay, he won!" As an adult, reaching the top and realizing you're totally fucked is very relatable. Luke fights in a galaxy-wide war, but he's not near anywhere on the galactic scale himself. He can't squeeze really hard and shit out a force blast. Rey can. Korra can. Harry Potter can. And "squeeze really hard" is a particularly unsatisfying resolution when we're talking magic powers, because it has no frame of reference in the real world. Strength, endurance, brilliance, grace are all relatable. Magic isn't.

Rey was doomed as a character. Lacking imagination, nuwars writers fall victim to sequel inflation. For the nostalgia crowd, there's no wonder in discovering Force powers (or elemental powers in Korra) because everyone already knows what they are; lacking imagination, the writers want to fast forward past "the boring part". What about the kids, though? Is everyone in the writer's room child-free? Parents never tire of stories about their kids learning to read or walk or hack the school's network, can't the writers get into that mindset?

Suedom also hurts toys. A squad of stormtroopers is an appropriate threat for Luke and Han: the baddies lose, as they should, but a kid can tell a story about it. A kid can't afford a roomful of $700 Star Destroyers to be an appropriate threat for Rey. And if you can't tell Rey stories, you don't need Rey toys.

Joseph Campbell was a cisheterowhite Christian male. Checkmate, hater.

Joseph Campbell was one of many, many media theorists, who sadly went mainstream. Why not the ATU index, or Polti, or Propp? Now people on writing,stackexchange are asking questions like "can the villain win" and get "no! never! this is against the law!" as the top upvoted answer.

Oh jesus christ I thought I had expunged the Hunger Games from memory, but it's all rushing back now like a tsunami of shit. I fucking hated those books, just like Ender's Game.

These books ruined my first persistent online username, chosen when I was a kid in honor of this lady - and look, they ruined her actual name, too:

NO, I DIDN'T.

 

[Creep3r]

So according to this post on reddit which relates to the Bespin Bulletin...

r/StarWarsLeaks - Bespin Bulletin: TROS reshoots possibly happening at Bad Robot in Santa Monica

87 votes and 79 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

The reshoots are currently being done in Santa Monica by Bad Robot. Holy fuck... Seriously? The movie's only 2 months and 21 days away. This has Solo disaster written all over it.

This is all just depressing. They really just don’t respect the average Star Wars fan. They think their attachment to the IP is just based on old familiar branding. I can’t blame them; people were so excited that the series was revived that they were packing rooms at Comicons, clapping and barking like seals at every familiar detail. Disney was exceptional to think that was as deep as it went. Their whole business model is just updating shit people already know, and in this case they can’t even manage to do it right.

Maybe I’m the exceptional one for wanting something more, or at least for expecting it. Everyone’s got an idealized version of Star Wars in their heads, it’s impossible to try something new and please everyone. But I’d take someone’s flawed vision over the property being treated and marketed like a product. And they’ve failed so completely at the fundamentals that all the branding bullshit feels especially idiotic and cynical.

The strength of Star War’s atmosphere has always been the story behind the story; the interesting events playing out in the background, and the idea that if you turned the camera a different direction, you’d capture something just as unique. My favorite details of the OT and even the prequels are the ones that hint at a living breathing world, and I think that’s a big part of what captivates people about the series. Instead, what we’re getting are the same surface level details and story beats chewed up and recycled without care or originality.

Sorry to rant, I just like Star Wars.

You hit the nail on the head, bambino. All Disney has done is set up a hollow marketable husk that has set a disastrous precedent and one-note tone for SW that now has to be solely about "band of plucky/retarded teenagers blow up a giant superweapon every other fucking week over and over again" in order to sell coleslaw and that will be all there is to it... If any new movies ever get made in the far future, they will just repeat JJ's bullshit over and over again.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Suedom also hurts toys. A squad of stormtroopers is an appropriate threat for Luke and Han: the baddies lose, as they should, but a kid can tell a story about it. A kid can't afford a roomful of $700 Star Destroyers to be an appropriate threat for Rey. And if you can't tell Rey stories, you don't need Rey toys.

And if you arent playing Rey Stories with Rey toys no one will care about Rey (who is a kid) in 10 years or so

 

[Antipathy]

I don't think awesome training is a good defense against Suedom. Rey's background is certainly lazier and feeds into the "lel it's dumb action, no one cares, switch off your brain and consume" mentality. What really makes Luke a great character, and what is totally absent from Harry Potter or Korra, is this:

Even with all his personal and, uh, professional growth, being in the heart of the events by chance and by blood, he still remains something of an outsider thrust into bigger things. He's unlikely to beat Vader in a fight to the death and he definitely can't beat the Emperor. I don't think it's something children can appreciate, being inundated with epic tweeeests from the time mom's tit gets switched for a bottle and not particularly fond of retrospection. "He has to win! Yay, he won!" As an adult, reaching the top and realizing you're totally fucked is very relatable. Luke fights in a galaxy-wide war, but he's not near anywhere on the galactic scale himself. He can't squeeze really hard and shit out a force blast. Rey can. Korra can. Harry Potter can. And "squeeze really hard" is a particularly unsatisfying resolution when we're talking magic powers, because it has no frame of reference in the real world. Strength, endurance, brilliance, grace are all relatable. Magic isn't.

Rey was doomed as a character. Lacking imagination, nuwars writers fall victim to sequel inflation. For the nostalgia crowd, there's no wonder in discovering Force powers (or elemental powers in Korra) because everyone already knows what they are; lacking imagination, the writers want to fast forward past "the boring part". What about the kids, though? Is everyone in the writer's room child-free? Parents never tire of stories about their kids learning to read or walk or hack the school's network, can't the writers get into that mindset?

Suedom also hurts toys. A squad of stormtroopers is an appropriate threat for Luke and Han: the baddies lose, as they should, but a kid can tell a story about it. A kid can't afford a roomful of $700 Star Destroyers to be an appropriate threat for Rey. And if you can't tell Rey stories, you don't need Rey toys.

I misspoke and jumbled my thoughts a bit in that first comment, and accidentally mashed two points into one, but let me try and reexplain and break things down a bit more.

When I talked about Luke and Anakin training, I meant that in the context of "this is how they grew more powerful over the length of their trilogies" rather than "this is why they have power and it's okay". But other than that, I agree.

To get to your 'squeeze really hard' point, I think every adult has, at least at some point, gone through something, gained knowledge and really made themselves the best at something they could be... only to realize that they're still a long way away from the best, and that without even more time and experienced they're frankly fucked. It happened to me a lot of times, and that realization stings every single time it happens.

There's a limit to what a person can do, and after a while even trying really hard will fail you. The problem is that it seems that "squeeze really hard" is the ultimate solution in a lot of these works, which means that if the protagonist is ever in danger, they just have to squeeze, and things work for them. But that's not a good story. If the protagonist gives it their all and still fails, then a threat has been established and thus tension in the story is possible. In Star Wars, that happened multiple times. In the OT, Luke getting obliterated by Vader (who we realize/know was holding back the entire time when he drops the "I am your father" line/talks about converting Luke anyway.) Anakin in AoTC gave it his all fighting Dooku on Geonosis, even wielding two lightsabers and eating Force lightning to the face. It didn't matter and he was rather easily dispatched after a brief blade duel.

Rey has never encountered a situation where "trying harder" doesn't work. Her encounter with Snoke can be argued to be this, but since Kylo immediately intervened, the lesson we took away was not "Rey isn't infallible" but instead "If somehow Rey is threatened, her foes will act irrationally to save her."

There is no definitive upper limit to Rey's power and thus there is no plausible challenge to be thrown at her. You can't write a story about an omnipotent being overcoming adversity, the nature of omnipotence means that it is impossible for them to be stymied by a physical force. Rey can never be threatened by Kylo, or Snoke, or Palpatine, because she has never been established to be limited.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Rey has never encountered a situation where "trying harder" doesn't work. Her encounter with Snoke can be argued to be this, but since Kylo immediately intervened, the lesson we took away was not "Rey isn't infallible" but instead "If somehow Rey is threatened, her foes will act irrationally to save her."

She hasnt had a situation where she had to try

 

[Antipathy]

She hasnt had a situation where she had to try

She hasn't, but even if she does, it doesn't really matter. She'll just "try harder" and win.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

She hasn't, but even if she does, it doesn't really matter. She'll just "try harder" and win.

She has never been involved in any of the aspects of the "plot" requiring them to win

 

[Antipathy]

She has never been involved in any of the aspects of the "plot" requiring them to win

I just realized that:
Until Rey Sue picked up half a fucking mountain by herself in TLJ, she was never really involved with the Discount Rebellion. She just moved JJ-8 to the Falcon and flew it in a random direction, just fucking happening to get where she needed to be. She then did basically jack shit for the rest of the film, only slapping away Kylo in a display of Suedom before doing nothing as the JJ Star was blown up. In TLJ she's even more divorced from the real plot, doing basically nothing until she goes onto the Nu-Executor, where she has her Sue moment with Snoke and fights some guards. She then is told she was made by nobodies and then fucks off to only shoot down three TIE fighters at once on NuHoth. She then does jack shit.

Compare that to Luke who frequently was involved in the affairs of the actual Rebellion. Sure, he wasn't always with them, but he clearly joined aboard the Death Star and stayed with Han and Leia after meeting them all the way through ANH. In ESB, he goes off on his own and trains with Yoda for a time before again intervening and getting his shit kicked in by Vader. By the time of RotJ, he once again is on the frontlines on Endor.

I only capped the plots of EPIX, and I don't want to read that tripe, so I don't know how Rey Sue contributes to the Rebels 2.0 other than her grand Suepreme moment of obliterating an entire Sith fleet and Palpatine.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I just realized that:
Until Rey Sue picked up half a fucking mountain by herself in TLJ, she was never really involved with the Discount Rebellion.

She only mattered to Snoke as a way to find Skywalker which....well....he did fuckall with. So she doesnt even matter to the plans of the Villians.

Her force skyping with Kylo doesnt develop either character or develop Kylo's new role

>Office Space: "What is it, you say you do around here."

 

[ZMOT]

What is it with Disney making ugly versions of old aliens and giving them human skin tones? It makes the fucker look like a weird penis. Also a new IX novel was released yesterday which I didn't even hear about until now. Such brilliant marketing. Anyway, the book mentions a character called Aftab Ackbar... If this new shitty Ackbar replacement is indeed Ackbar's relative, than this may confirm the other shitty leak from months back about Ackbar's newphew being his replacement.

I'm surprised they actually gave him a name and not just "admiral", because supermemberberries.

also, funnily enough with giving most aliens human skintones a lot of them end up white (or white-ish). fucking bigots, we need more aliens of color!

Also another old rumor/leak is confirmed in that Wedge is officially in IX...

didn't the actor tell them to fuck off before TFA?

There is no definitive upper limit to Rey's power and thus there is no plausible challenge to be thrown at her. You can't write a story about an omnipotent being overcoming adversity, the nature of omnipotence means that it is impossible for them to be stymied by a physical force. Rey can never be threatened by Kylo, or Snoke, or Palpatine, because she has never been established to be limited.

same problem superman has basically. that's why writers tend to focus more on his character and give him situations where he can't just punch his way out of. nuwars issue is rey has none.
considering there is a constant light/dark-conflict it should be even easier to come with something, but that would require a modicum of talent.

I'm fucking thankful I never read Twilight otherwise I think I'd totally derail this, but the seeds of Rey Sue were there for a decade or more.

twilight are romance novels set in bumfuck washington, bella swan isn't singlehandedly overthrowing tyrants in a dystopian future. her only sue-power would be that suddenly two super-hunks are lusting after her nondescript-bland character. rest of the books she's practically a damsel in distress getting rescued constantly and wondering which hunk to bone. so average YA romance stuff. the books aren't even that bad, but pretty much what you would expect no idea why it blew up the way it did.

the only similarities to rey would be that kstew is equally unable to close her mouth while acting.

divergent might be more up your alley for some fun afternoon rage.

 

[Antipathy]

She only mattered to Snoke as a way to find Skywalker which....well....he did fuckall with. So she doesnt even matter to the plans of the Villians.

Her force skyping with Kylo doesnt develop either character or develop Kylo's new role

>Office Space: "What is it, you say you do around here."

It's amazing how powerful she is, and yet, despite this, she actually doesn't really matter. If Rey Sue was removed entirely from NuWars, the movies would all objectively be better not much would change plotwise. She just appears whenever the NuRebels are written into a corner, she solves the problem perfectly, and then vanishes from the film again.