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Welp, it has happened - Vic's gonna appeal. Now I'll keep to my word and finally donate to the GFM putting my wallet where my mouth is and all that.

Hmm, how much should I throw into this...

EDIT: And done. I think I wrote a suitable comment saying what I wanted to say without overthinking it too much.
EDIT2: Let's be less exceptional and actually add the comment, dipshit. Way to ruin the mood.
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You fucking madlad.
 
I wonder if Greggy is saying what he's saying knowing it's false as fuck thinking he's intimidating Ty with his superlolyer powers.

That, and trying to incite KV outrage to keep him relevant.
 
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Don't they have to wait for Chupp to award legal fees + sanctions? I'm still half expecting Chupp to award the exact value of the GFM as Sanctions or somesuch. What happens if Chupp waits 20 days past the finding to award fees?

There's no deadline for sanctions.

I wonder if Greggy is saying what he's saying knowing it's false as fuck thinking he's intimidating Ty with his superlolyer powers.

I'm sure he'd be thrilled if Ty for some reason pays attention to his sperging and misses a deadline instead of just ignoring him like anyone but lolcow watchers does.
 
In very slight defense of Douchette, he did predict all causes dismissed on TCPA. He must feel very smart right now.

He was right but for the wrong reason. Gloating just makes him look like a douchebag.

Also people can look into his claim of "Vic will have to put up lawyer costs before appeals." If he was wrong about that (which he was) his credibility is about to take a hit. And probably a lot more hits.


Don't they have to wait for Chupp to award legal fees + sanctions? I'm still half expecting Chupp to award the exact value of the GFM as Sanctions or somesuch. What happens if Chupp waits 20 days past the finding to award fees?

I think it was explained that an appeal can be filed before sanctions.
 
There's no deadline for sanctions.

So we're right back to my original worry, right? The appeals can't go forward until the legal fees (and sanctions?) are filed, but the appeals must be filed before 20 days are up. So is there anything keeping Chupp from just fucking about and not handling fees until it's past 20 days?

I know it sounds stupid but at this point I wouldn't trust Chupp to handle a sharp pencil, yet alone a legal case. If there's a way for this to be Chupped up, he'll find it.
 
Now forgive me if I'm having a case of the dumb, but can the court of appeals find enough merit in the plaintiff's filings and documents to move the case past TCPA? Considering they've had to deal with Chupp on many occasions now and how badly he botched that hearing it would be interesting to see how they go about making sure Chupp isn't a complete mong the 2nd time around.
 
Now forgive me if I'm having a case of the dumb, but can the court of appeals find enough merit in the plaintiff's filings and documents to move the case past TCPA? Considering they've had to deal with Chupp on many occasions now and how badly he botched that hearing it would be interesting to see how they go about making sure Chupp isn't a complete mong the 2nd time around.

Not only can the appelate court do what you're asking, it's part of their job. For all intents and purposes, this is a "do-over" of the ruling. Basically, they'll take the testimony and court records and determine how the law actually applies to the situation, and offer a new ruling. The new ruling on the TCPA will be sent back to Chupp, unless, y'know, they rule to dismiss all counts too.

What Chupp does from there is anyone's guess, but yes, the court of appeals can move it past TCPA.
 
Now forgive me if I'm having a case of the dumb, but can the court of appeals find enough merit in the plaintiff's filings and documents to move the case past TCPA? Considering they've had to deal with Chupp on many occasions now and how badly he botched that hearing it would be interesting to see how they go about making sure Chupp isn't a complete mong the 2nd time around.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if it's a Court of Appeals, then shouldn't that decision be made by an appellate judge instead of Chupp?

Not only can the appelate court do what you're asking, it's part of their job. For all intents and purposes, this is a "do-over" of the ruling. Basically, they'll take the testimony and court records and determine how the law actually applies to the situation, and offer a new ruling. The new ruling on the TCPA will be sent back to Chupp, unless, y'know, they rule to dismiss all counts too.

What Chupp does from there is anyone's guess, but yes, the court of appeals can move it past TCPA.

That's what I'm thinking. IIRC, most appellate courts have to deal with convicted criminals trying to appeal their original sentences, although there probably is a separate appellate court for civil lawsuits.

Either way, most of the time if the court of appeals upholds the original ruling, it's because the appeal brings nothing of substance. With all that got uncovered even before Chupp's ruling, I doubt the court of appeals will just automatically re-affirm Chupp's ruling. They'll definitely be looking at the case more closely regardless of their decision, especially if Chupp is as lazy and prone to appeals as he's rumored to be.
 
Not only can the appelate court do what you're asking, it's part of their job. For all intents and purposes, this is a "do-over" of the ruling. Basically, they'll take the testimony and court records and determine how the law actually applies to the situation, and offer a new ruling. The new ruling on the TCPA will be sent back to Chupp, unless, y'know, they rule to dismiss all counts too.

What Chupp does from there is anyone's guess, but yes, the court of appeals can move it past TCPA.
Ah, so the appeals court can come in with the belt and drag the defendants home or tell Vic to get fucked? My gut is pulling for the former.
 
Ah, so the appeals court can come in with the belt and drag the defendants home or tell Vic to get fucked? My gut is pulling for the former.
And if the latter happens well there's always the option to appeal further. And if that doesn't pan out we can just stockpile MG42's and reenact Jin-Roh
 
So we're right back to my original worry, right? The appeals can't go forward until the legal fees (and sanctions?) are filed, but the appeals must be filed before 20 days are up. So is there anything keeping Chupp from just fucking about and not handling fees until it's past 20 days?

I know it sounds stupid but at this point I wouldn't trust Chupp to handle a sharp pencil, yet alone a legal case. If there's a way for this to be Chupped up, he'll find it.

It's possible the deadline for appeal starts ticking with the final judgment and not the order granting the TCPA motion. The effect of filing early is nothing, though. It just is treated as having been filed on the appropriate date but after whatever event makes the matter ripe for appeal (such as the entry of final judgment).
 
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i dont even care if vic ultimately win or lose but god i want him to atleast win TCPA appeal just so ppl can spam Marchi with #Stillsued.

And they take the financial hit for the lawsuits. So at the very least slagging on someone because you didn't want them to get a director job over you cost them thousands of dollars.
 
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I'm feeling moderately optimistic about appeals. Before the TCPA hearing, I was definitely getting too emotionally involved and treating the case as a slam dunk. I'm glad that Vic is appealing though, wasn't so sure about that anymore. I'll try to remain a little more neutral now. But I wish Vic and @Svetlana the absolute best for the future. And, as exceptional as it may sound, I'll keep praying for Vic.
 
reminder that monica didnt just say vic tried to rape her, that she believes ALL the stories about vic because it happened to HER. Its not monica story that started it all but she came in with her story to also "confirm" all the other rumours. This is even worse than just claiming vic raped her, shes claiming not only did he attempt to rape her but he also did everything else that was being thrown around at the time.
A reminder that spreading random sourceless rumours is also actual malice as per certain case law which I have to look up to remember.
 
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