Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

While we're at it (I was travelling for work this weekend, hence having to catch up on news), fancy some Halloween shopping?

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You too can scare your neighbours shitless with the Gemmy Industries Yard Inflatables Yoda with Pumpkin for the low, low price of 30 USD (inflatabe is about three feet tall). Doesn't this thing look exactly like Yoda?
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Dress your little princess as Leia for trick-or-treating (something about this child model feels off though, is it the nose maybe?)

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Animal cruelty is fun and pet costumes are cute, so why not combine the best of both worlds? While you have one mutt running around as Princess Leia, have the other be forcibly dressed up as Wicket the Ewok.

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NOVELTY BAGS - IT'S A PUG, ISN'T IT CUTE? FUR FUR AWAY HAHAHAHAH #laughs #funny #dogsofinstagram

tl;dr Star Wars really is a Facebook mom brand now.

But fair play to the Rat ; its Parks department did come up with a nifty candy corn-inspired droid figure for the overpriced stores in Galaxy's Edge;
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I've never had candy corn - is that shit good?
Candy corn is pretty shit imo
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In other news, this is a comment I capped.
 
While we're at it (I was travelling for work this weekend, hence having to catch up on news), fancy some Halloween shopping?

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You too can scare your neighbours shitless with the Gemmy Industries Yard Inflatables Yoda with Pumpkin for the low, low price of 30 USD (inflatabe is about three feet tall). Doesn't this thing look exactly like Yoda?
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Dress your little princess as Leia for trick-or-treating (something about this child model feels off though, is it the nose maybe?)

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Animal cruelty is fun and pet costumes are cute, so why not combine the best of both worlds? While you have one mutt running around as Princess Leia, have the other be forcibly dressed up as Wicket the Ewok.

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NOVELTY BAGS - IT'S A PUG, ISN'T IT CUTE? FUR FUR AWAY HAHAHAHAH #laughs #funny #dogsofinstagram

tl;dr Star Wars really is a Facebook mom brand now.

But fair play to the Rat ; its Parks department did come up with a nifty candy corn-inspired droid figure for the overpriced stores in Galaxy's Edge;
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I've never had candy corn - is that shit good?
Candy corn is something you're either meh on, or have a deep and abiding loathing of. I'm on the meh side. If there's a candy dish with some in it, I'll take some, but that's enough for a year.
 
I can't believe these haven't been posted yet; Lucasfilm's latest attempt to exploit the pre-school market is a series of shorts called Star Wars Rollout.

All your favourite characters like Rey, Janitor, and.... uh... anyway, all your faves reimagined as spheres! Let the toddlers in your family be amazed by how far the 30 cent animation budget has been stretched for this latest high quality offering from a galaxy far, far away (from its heyday);

Yeah. I posted about that piece of shit last month and its another clear sign of Disney tightening Lucasfilm's budget while Females of Destiny and Galaxy of Adventures remain in production limbo.

But fair play to the Rat ; its Parks department did come up with a nifty candy corn-inspired droid figure for the overpriced stores in Galaxy's Edge;
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I've never had candy corn - is that shit good?
I remember those little fucks. They're not new. They're from 2018's SW Halloween event at Disney. They're the BOO-series droids. The candy corn one, according to Disney canon (yes these fuckers have their own fucking place in Disney canon), is called R4-BOO18 working at Cloud City creating candy corn plants for Lando (seriously...), and the other is called R2-BOO which is yellow yoda's personal droid and like its owner its a legendary space pirate too... somehow. There's a third ghostly R3-BOO17 droid that, according to Disney, belongs to Darth Maul and worked for his witchy sisters during the Clone Wars and helped to make magic brew... Disney really wants you to buy these shits while claiming they belong to famous people they don't give a shit about while pulling some made up importance out of their ass.
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As for actual candy corn, its fine I guess. Not something I like eating in large quantities. 3 or 4 is the limit before it becomes stale.
 
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I'm not surprised Kiri Hart is an idiot and that she held some responsibility over the decline of SW, but something about WDW Pro doesn't sit right with me. He's like the Bad Robot/Lucasfilm employee on Reddit last month who told everyone about the drama going on but at the same time trying to save face for JJ Dindunuffin. WDW Pro feels similar to that except he's going all "Kennedy and JJ dindunuffin! They just had the wrong people! Kiri and Johnson were to blame! Not them! KK is trying to salvage what's left because of mean old Kiri". Everyone at Lucasfilm are equally responsible, and as we learned from info about Iger and Iger himself via his autobiography, he was probably just as responsible, if not more so, for the fall of SW. Itchybacca is just respoting what he knows and what comes to light and that's good, but WDW Pro sounds like he/she is just trying to save face for JJ and Kennedy, which seems like something that too many Lucasfilm people are doing. Even Matt Martin claimed there was no bigger plan and JJ is not one for making "big well planned out" stories like WDW Pro claims. And the sudden and forced revelation that Ackbar has a son as of a few days ago is just one of countless pieces of proof that Disney-Lucasfilm had no idea what they were doing from the get-go aside from making something that would make quick bucks and do cheap fan pandering by making a remake of the OT.

Also can't have plucky heroes using Grit to defeat a near impossible foe.

I mean god forbid we teach "Children" (who this is supposed to be for LOL) a good moral value



My issue with R1 is....SW did this plot in video games multiple times (and better), every TTRPG of star wars did this, and we had novelizations.

There wasnt a new and compelling retelling of how the rebels got the death star plans [which in and of itself isnt interesting]
Same. Yet they're trying to backtrack that shit now by re-releasing the Jedi Knight 2 game on Switch and putting the development of the mexican Kyle Katarn show into question.
 
What will happen to Leia? And I still hope Zori lives and we see what's under her damn helmet.

Did they ever talk about how or why they wasted Phasma?
 
What will happen to Leia? And I still hope Zori lives and we see what's under her damn helmet.

Did they ever talk about how or why they wasted Phasma?
Most rumors imply that Leia dies at some point near the end of the film or she's the only OT survivor and gives everyone her approval near the end.

I already posted Zorry's bio before which said she is human and she looks just like her actress due to contract reasons. Same as Phasma. Nothing special. Just a Boba Fett copy. Any rumors about her being Rey's mother or Mara Jade have been debunked by her actress and Oscar Isaac who confirmed Zorry is just Poe's ex-gf.
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Phasma was never meant to be anything to begin with. She wasn't even added into the movie until it was almost complete because KK saw concept art of a silver trooper and wanted it in the film and she wanted it to be female, hence why Phasma did nothing except bark orders for a bit and get thrown into the trash.
 
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Here’s the cringe Mary Sue farted out of their vagina that @GeneralFriendliness brought up.



The lack of self awareness is appalling.

The Mary Sue represents everything I hate about modern culture.

Times like this the AM quote from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream comes to mind.

“HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.”
 
The Mary Sue represents everything I hate about modern culture.

Times like this the AM quote from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream comes to mind.

William Shatner summed them up best:

"The Mary Sue is a feminist site where (at least at one point) had all the women working for free but the head of the site: a male- was the only one being paid. The hypocrisy of it all was absolutely hysterical. If anything they are one of the reasons misandry exists."
 
I can't believe these haven't been posted yet; Lucasfilm's latest attempt to exploit the pre-school market is a series of shorts called Star Wars Rollout.

All your favourite characters like Rey, Janitor, and.... uh... anyway, all your faves reimagined as spheres! Let the toddlers in your family be amazed by how far the 30 cent animation budget has been stretched for this latest high quality offering from a galaxy far, far away (from its heyday);


Star Wars has been reimagined as a transhumanist setting where millennia in the future humans brains are emulated within compact robotic bodies. This is actually a very interesting direction for the franchise to take.
 
Also can't have plucky heroes using Grit to defeat a near impossible foe.

don't forget that foes like they're depicted now would never be able to achieve that level of power in the first place. it really is a "who's the bigger tard" competition (including the viewer).

My issue with R1 is....SW did this plot in video games multiple times (and better), every TTRPG of star wars did this, and we had novelizations.

There wasnt a new and compelling retelling of how the rebels got the death star plans [which in and of itself isnt interesting]

all non canon tho ;^)
in the end it's all based on a single line in ANH anyway. it might not be interesting in itself but it's possible to spin a fun and entertaining story around it and establish great new characters while still being loosely connected to the skywalker saga (without being chock full of skywalkers), just like they did in the old EU, so I don't see it that much of a flaw.
least we got nice space fights out of it, and I enjoyed the whole "everybody is just different shades of grey" which the nuwars completely lack.

They blew up the Enterprise, after all.

enterprise getting rebuild/improved over time is established tho. the falcon in itself is more unique since it's a freighter in that certain configuration (there's some lore bits floating around that it's design is very modular) flown by han+chewie. get ready for "falcon 2.0" or "billenium sparhawk" (tarded name intended).

The Mary Sue represents everything I hate about modern culture.

Times like this the AM quote from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream comes to mind.

reminds me of
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eerily applicable to star wars too.
 
he was under scrutiny from day one since he never wanted to work on it in the first place. hard to sabotage something when your work gets triple-checked and you're under constant surveillance. also means you have only limited access to the outside (far lass then the average in the empire I wager) so they literally could tell him anything to make him budge. sure, he could string himself up, but that takes will and again, constant surveillance. how many scientists or engineers do you know that have that kind of guts?
necking yourself will also take away every chance you have to sabotage it in the first place.

I still call horseshit - the 'weakness' is so nitpicky it might as well have not been there. It took force-assisted aim to pull it off.

I think a better plot would have been he says he sabotaged the plans, and then diet-Tarkin lets him know just as he dies that he was aware of his attempts to sabotage the design and they've already been edited out. It makes diet-Tarkin a more formidable opponent and a bigger asshole. After this, our demoralized band decides to steal the plans anyway because A) what else are you going to do against a planet killer and B) there has to be a weakness anyway.
Hell, you have Pilot Sijjad do more than just hang around by having him suggest it, in roughly the same way nickpickers have, about it being nearly certain something else is fucked up in a project that large.

I know that "steal the death star plans" has been done to death, but I also really don't care: I'm a sucker for 'Heist' plots and it makes sense that there would be more than one attempt to get the plans, especially given the fact the Rebellion didn't know the Deathstar existed until they had said plans; they knew 'something' was taking a lot of imperial resources. So it seems plausible to me that investigations into what's going on would lead to multiple copies of the plans being in different places, and multiple attempts to procure them, not realizing its all one thing.

my assumption is the reshots fucked with that, cut lot of stuff and added shit to make it more marketable. after a certain point they act like-semi lovers or at least comrades, but the moment that makes it happen it is never shown. least they took a note from pacific rim and don't have them kiss at the end (maybe it was cut)
donnie yen was great, tho my suspicion is he was added to attract a certain big market in asia. just fucking shit up with a stick felt more "jedi" and force powered than anything combined in both nuwars episodes (and to an extend even prequels which were way over-choreographed imo). should've given him a bigger role and actual make him a blind jedi.

tbh the cast of RO gets a lot of shit when for me actually worked better this way. sure they were underdeveloped, but I rather have new (side) characters than seeing the same 5 people over and over in a fucking galaxy. and with underdeveloped you have enough space to fill with headcanon or lore (until they get blown up, but still). they also managed to not make them one-dimensional trope characters only ticking off checkboxes.
would unironically love to see the original cut when it was more like a war movie.

vader was only good in the last scene, the fishing for a new meme quote with krennic was completely pointless and felt tacked on af. why they wanted to have have leia in the battle itself is anyone's guess, a single line about it being a transmission or picking it up elsewhere would've been sufficed. so much for story group I guess.

I generally like the cast. I don't need detailed life stories, but they were too shallow. I've seen enough film to know that at the beginning, when Jose Bond stabs the guy and leaves him, the viewer is expected to extrapolate that into him being a remorseless killer focused solely on completing his mission no matter the cost to ensure the Rebellion succeeds, so when he deviates from that and doesn't ventilate Galen, we're to really get a sense of weight that he's finally having hope and that maybe he doesn't have to kill everyone. But while I knew that's the reaction I was supposed to have, I didn't actually have it because they didn't show me enough to actually sense that's his character. He knifes one dude, and fails to snipe Jyn's father, and that's all we get to see of Jose Bond's character.

Jyn was a bit of a mess, but she was at least an understandable and mostly sympathetic mess. Her speeches were shit but mercifully short. I didn't hate her, and she wasn't an unending spouting fount of "THE FORCE IS FEMALE!"

I liked Blind Priest mostly. He was a little annoying at times, but he was decent character, and Wacky Guy/Straight Man is used everywhere because its very easy to make work. I think, as you said, it would have been better that he was blind jedi who survived the purge - maybe an academy drop out or something. I also appreciated that it was (principally) new characters, even if they killed them all off (arguably especially because they killed them all off). But Blind guy & body guard felt pretty tacked on, and again the movie was already really crowded with characters. Like you could pull them from the film, and not really miss anything, and have more time to develop the other four characters.

I think we can all agree though the best character hands down was K2-S0.



Its hard to know what got fucked with on the reshoots. You can guess, but we'll never know.

100% agree the visit on Vader's castle was pointless - see my point about the film jumping around too much. Why take the time to go to Vaders castle? Diet-Tarkin could have been choked out on the bridge of CGI-Tarkin's ship.


I've never had candy corn - is it any good?

Take wax. Mix in sugar. Eat it. You now have had Candy Corn.

Also a disturbing number of other confections.
 
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Yeah. I posted about that piece of shit last month and its another clear sign of Disney tightening Lucasfilm's budget while Females of Destiny and Galaxy of Adventures remain in production limbo.


I remember those little fucks. They're not new. They're from 2018's SW Halloween event at Disney. They're the BOO-series droids. The candy corn one, according to Disney canon (yes these fuckers have their own fucking place in Disney canon), is called R4-BOO18 working at Cloud City creating candy corn plants for Lando (seriously...), and the other is called R2-BOO which is yellow yoda's personal droid and like its owner its a legendary space pirate too... somehow. There's a third ghostly R3-BOO17 droid that, according to Disney, belongs to Darth Maul and worked for his witchy sisters during the Clone Wars and helped to make magic brew... Disney really wants you to buy these shits while claiming they belong to famous people they don't give a shit about while pulling some made up importance out of their ass.
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As for actual candy corn, its fine I guess. Not something I like eating in large quantities. 3 or 4 is the limit before it becomes stale.

Is it wrong that I actually dig those three droid designs purely for aesthetic reasons?

Also, I love Candy Corn. Maybe it's just the texture over flavor for me but I can never get enough.
 
I can't believe these haven't been posted yet; Lucasfilm's latest attempt to exploit the pre-school market is a series of shorts called Star Wars Rollout.

All your favourite characters like Rey, Janitor, and.... uh... anyway, all your faves reimagined as spheres!
I think I saw something about this on social media just before @GeneralFriendliness posted and confirmed my observations that 'Rollout appears to be another example of unimpressive rubbish that is either targeted to young kids, something that further infantilizes the franchise, or both. I suppose it's possible the concept could work somehow; with Disney's track record however, I don't think they will be the ones to make it work -- especially with Resistance barely lucky to get a second season before having the plug pulled.

get ready for "falcon 2.0" or "billenium sparhawk" (tarded name intended).
Or the "Centennial Condor" to further downgrade and deemphasize everything associated with the OT.

I've never had candy corn - is it any good?
TBH, it's largely multi-colored sugar. It's tolerable in small amounts, but beyond that is meh and can result in a bit of a sugar high/rush. Also, candy corn in the US tends to have Yellow Artificial Coloring #5 in it, so those sensitive to that would want to avoid this confection.
 
When they first announced this, I already knew it was shit. Watching it, I have to say, it's way... waaaay worse than I thought.
The question that I am wondering about is why is everyone a BB-8-like spinnything? Are they that fond of that design? It sorta works for the robot, but for every other character it's so colossally fucking stupid and pointless. But then you watch this and the (in lack of a better term) """plot""", and there is no point to it. Rey finds shiny thing, baddies steal thing, treat Rey like shit and she finds more shiny things. Sooooo... is there a point to this story, a moral? Is there anything this has to say?
No. It's just things moving and making grunty noises and that's about it.
I take it you only saw the one posted here then, because there are two more videos to the "story". Not everything Star Wars needs to be a trilogy Disney.

On Chapter 2 Rey finds a flower in the place she found the other shiny objects, takes it with her for some reason and gives it water so it won't wilt, but the bad guys find and follow her with a worm-like giant vacuum machine. It ends with them almost capturing Rey because the machine is sucking in her bag with shiny stuff! Oh no! How will she get away?!

But for all it's massive shortcomings, it gave us something completely new, something hitherto unseen in the movies!
Rey is actually struggling and doesn't beat the badguys effortlessly. In fact, she doesn't beat them at all.
Well, it's still just a 2 minute issue, since she ends up being better off very quickly anyway, but I'll take whatever I can get...
Oh, sweet summer child...

Chapter 3 starts with Rey being saved by coincidence of a big, round object appearing and getting the machine stuck for a while. (What? You thought Rey would need to do something to save herself? :optimistic:)
Bad guys chase her a little longer and corner her at the end of the destroyed spaceship, at which point she jumps on top their machine and throws the shiny stuff to the cliff so the bad guys fall trying to catch them. After that victory she finds a garden full of the same flower she found previously, plants it there and notices a little string on the floor that upon being pulled reveals a part of the spaceship just filled with the shiny stuff.
 
even more annoying (at least for me, since they were my favorite race) is that this shit effectively cockblocks other togruta, let alone females to ever appear in canon. and even if they do too many tards will immediately think it's ashoka. it's also another proof that overusing a character inevitably ruins it completely and retroactively.
Shit like this is what led me to believe that they axed Shaak Ti on purpose for the show. She was a popular jedi and she appeared in a large number of Clone Wars media before Filoni Wars, yet Ahsoka comes on the scene and Shaak Ti is never seen or mentioned until much later on where she's reduced to the role of clone instructor. Togrutas as a whole haven't appeared in anything post-Disney outside of novels which makes me further suspect that its for Ahsoka's sake. Filoni wants her in everything. Its already implied that she'll be appearing in the Mandalorian. That combined with rumors that she'll be in IX indicate that Filoni will want her in everything from now on.

all non canon tho ;^)
Best not pull that card when considering what actually qualifies as canon under Disney now.
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Honestly, "canon" has become such a meaningless term that its only purpose now seems to serve as a label to tell "nerds" what to buy from the market-approved list instead of being a seal of proper narrative continuation. Its obvious Disney's going to retcon their own "canon" in about 5 or more years to rekindle interest since even one of the story group members had confirmed half a year ago that their canon as it currently stands is just no longer sustainable for them (if anyone remembers on which page I posted the link, please remind me). It doesn't help that Disney canon was in the gutter right from the beginning. As for RO, yeah it follows a similar theme to those EU stories in that it explores what happened before ANH, but that's where most of the similarities end other than the blatant Jan Ors and Kyle Katarn knockoffs, and in the end it suffers from a lack of substance and a lot of uninteresting characters who receive no development and are just superficially designed to appeal to movie-going demographics who really don't expect much from their characters outside of action scenes and "cool lines" (you don't even need a deep or emotional backstory to develop them, although Ghostse already explained it better) while just shoving a lot of nostalgia in your face to make up for the lack of interesting world building. This guy puts it into more words and proper detail than I do (then again so does Ghostse):
If you have the time, I suggest you give it a watch. In end, the movie might've been better off as the war movie that it originally was before Kennedy's meddling since it was still an infinitely better movie than TFA but it would've been better off not being a prequel to ANH and (as I've said before ITT) as a solo war film detailing one of the many countless heroic stories within the galaxy. On a semi-related note, the Vader scene would've been far more impacting if it had been on a different ship and without the castle scene, like make him show up on a ship of Jedha survivors to hunt down one of the surviving main characters on it and with no hint of Vader's arrival being given beforehand.

Anyway, Mass Effect is the most appropriate description of the state of Star Wars as well as the fall of Game of Thrones, Star Trek and so much other shit ruined in the Current Year.

And back on the topic of the story group and canon...
I decided to look up more info on WDW Pro and he claims that its not just Kiri Hart who got replaced, but the entirety of the Lucasfilm story group as they knew it between 2014-2018 no longer exists, and some interpret this as a full disbandment, which would explain why Disney canon is messier than usual lately, but that still doesn't explain why Pablo Hidalgo and Matt Martin are still actively serving as shitty Canon maintainers and officiators while Resistance is still restricted to Hart and Kennedy's ideological roots to its core. If the story group really is disbanded, Hidalgo and Martin shouldn't even be talking about this kind of shit anymore, which they still are. So I'm having some doubts about WDW Pro. The Kiri Hart thing is partially legit though as she did go from Story Group head to Consultant, but I'd rather wait for more dirt to come out on this from multiple sources.

Or the "Centennial Condor" to further downgrade and deemphasize everything associated with the OT.
A clip or picture was shown at SW Celebration or something that showed Finn and Poe relaxing in their new ship. Some claim this might be their new personal ship and the one that will replace the Falcon.
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The clip itself was shown to prove that the characters would actually be friends now to silence criticism of the characters and their lack of closeness despite barely interacting with one another in these films. Which is one of the reasons why they're going all out with this Journey to IX shit with a tie-in in the Marvel comics that shows the "deep friendship" between Finn, Poe, Rose and Rey.

Is it wrong that I actually dig those three droid designs purely for aesthetic reasons?

Also, I love Candy Corn. Maybe it's just the texture over flavor for me but I can never get enough.
I don't mind the design of the candy corn and ghostly one. I just find that their back stories are a bit too forced, but otherwise I could believe the candy corn design droid as a believable thing that would be present on Bespin. Yellow Yoda's personal droid just looks horribly gaudy to me though.
 
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So I recently found my old graphic novels that were done by Lucasfilm for a few of the EU arcs. There's a lot of things that immediately jumped out at me as I did: The fact that the artwork in it is fucking gorgeous, that it actually expands the universe in an interesting way, that all the characterization is spot-on, and so on, but one thing that immediately stands out - and about one series in particular - is that it basically is what a competent version of the Disney trilogy would have been: The Dark Empire trilogy. While the arc itself has some issues, it does a lot right and a number of ideas from it are lifted wholesale, to the point where you can make a credible argument that the original intent was, before Disney Disney'd all over it, was to adapt it, which honestly would have made a much better movie.

If you can bogart the original graphic novel series someplace, I'd recommend doing so; it looks fucking fantastic, and it's worth looking at for some genuinely solid ideas - and quite a few dodgy ones (something even the author admits). But it's kind of amazing just how much of this is either openly referenced or flat-out ripped off:

* A resurgent empire under new leadership (Dark Empire did this way better, as it's set immediately after the Thrawn trilogy)
* A new superweapon that's basically completely safe from conventional retaliation because it's deep in enemy territory (The Galaxy Gun vs Starkiller Base).
* Luke is missing and turns up in a very unexpected way (he gets captured in Dark Empire, only to seemingly appear later working for the Empire)
* A character gets an ancient Lightsaber from an unexpected ally (Leia gets a it from an ancient Jedi woman named Vima-da-Boda)
* Palpatine's alive (clones in Dark Empire, and it's implied he's revived himself this way many times)
* A former ally now working for the Empire (Luke in Dark Empire, but there's some interesting twists here)

It's kind of amazing, because this goes on for pages. It really makes one wonder what could have been.
 
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