Militant Vegans - MEAT IS MURDER, YOU BLOODMOUTHS

key word, "ex-friend". Vegans are so insufferable that anyone who isn't as crazy as they are distance themselves from the walking dumpster fire. The people to feel sorry for are the families of these vegans though, because they're stuck with them. Any fun that happens at any family gathering comes to a screeching halt the second they show up.
 
I remember I had an ex friend online who was a wild and wacky vegan. We had a small group chat where we all shared what we were gonna eat for lunch or dinner. Person went insane when some people mentioned that they were gonna eat chicken or a burger. Person went. "How could you eat an innocent animal?! Can't you guys eat a peanut-butter sandwich?"

Most Vegans I read upon ignore that people have food allergies.
A fucking peanut butter sandwich. For dinner. Not only are they vegan, they have an asinine and childish idea of what counts as food. Yeah, lemme just sit around the dinner table with a peanut butter sandwich on wonderbread like white trash.
 
key word, "ex-friend". Vegans are so insufferable that anyone who isn't as crazy as they are distance themselves from the walking dumpster fire. The people to feel sorry for are the families of these vegans though, because they're stuck with them. Any fun that happens at any family gathering comes to a screeching halt the second they show up.
At one point I considered becoming a vegetarian or vegan because I don't eat a lot of meat anyway and for the health benefits. Then I met the insufferable cunts so far up their own ass they can do their own dental work that make up vegetarian and vegan groups and decided I'd rather die early.
 
Vegans Have Every Right to Demand a Clean Grill for Their Impossible Whoppers
They should do it loudly and proudly.
By EVAN URQUHART
SEPT 10, 20195:49 PM

The Burger King king holding a bunch of carrots.

Photo illustration by Slate. Photos by Burger King and Ljupco/iStock/Getty Images Plus.

In our dystopian fast food culture and its cycle of worker exploitation and environmental decay, there is a new burning question for our times: Is it wrong to ask employees at Burger King to clean the grill before placing a vegan’s Impossible Whopper in reach of its flames?
Vegetarians and vegans began to express alarm at eating a patty tainted by meat residue almost as soon the new burgers arrived at Burger King nationwide this summer. The potential for contamination has been repeatedly mentioned in news coverage, including in Today and CNBC. One potential solution involved using a broiler, away from fat-stained beef grills. But to get the best taste, respondents on vegan forums and Facebook groups have suggested asking employees to clean the grill before fulfilling their order and to cook it that way instead.

Au contraire, countered some vegan activists. A couple of weeks ago, Seitanosaurus, a vegan blogger, implored her fellows to please, for the sake of solidarity, stop asking Burger King employees to clean the grill, in a post that has been widely shared and discussed in these same circles (see the discussion on the Facebook group for The Bearded Vegans podcast). The argument contained these points:
A worker could be fired for taking the time to clean a grill, because fast food restaurants time their employees on every order. It is an offense to the dignity of Burger King employees to ask them to clean the grill for you. Working at Burger King is hard enough already without adding superfluous grill cleanings. The reputation of vegans will suffer if vegans go around making unreasonable requests, such as asking for a clean grill.

Is this correct? What are a vegan’s responsibilities here? This entire debate will inevitably inspire eye-rolls from many people, and I understand the instinct. But it goes to the heart of the quandary, and opportunity, Impossible burgers represent.

In some ways, this might seem like a moot question. So you believe it’s ethically wrong to eat meat, as most vegans do. Is it really equally wrong to inadvertently eat a bit of meat residue from a previous customer’s meaty Whopper that has attached itself to your vegan patty? There are no additional animals harmed if the residue is left to accrue than if it’s cleansed, so by that measure, the act of consuming microscopic particles of meat would be ethically nullified.

But even if you accept that premise (and many vegan and vegetarians wouldn’t), there’s still reason not to keep quiet. If eating animals is ethically wrong, then the 5 percent of Americans who are vegetarians have a lot of work to do in convincing the 95 percent of us who tear into the flesh of beasts with our teeth for sustenance. In that context, it is no virtue to be a well-behaved vegetarian who avoids drawing attention to himself. Alerting others, including Burger King employees and people waiting nearby, to one’s abstention from carnivorous pursuits could serve as a small act of consciousness-raising. Vegans can decide for themselves whether avoiding meat residue is an important part of their practice, but it doesn’t seem wise to avoid this issue for the sake of tactical civility.

What to do, then, at Burger King, when a worker is in the crosshairs of your struggle? This does seem to be a widespread issue. Even at my local Burger King in a rural California town where agriculture is the primary industry, a girl I recently met at the counter told me she was asked for a grill cleaning to prevent protein contamination in Impossible Whoppers “all the time.” This young employee also suggested that this particular store’s grill could not be cleaned without substantial disassembly but that an uncontaminated Whopper could be cooked in the broiler, far from any meat. I proceeded to order an Impossible Burger with just a slight feeling of embarrassment at having passed, briefly, for a finicky vegan whose lips must not touch meat. (I can, at least, report that the taste of the Impossible patty was … quite good. After announcing to my companion that I’d only have a bite or two—just to see what it was like—I soon found I’d been seduced into polishing off the entire thing.)

In the screenshotted examples the vegan blogger provided, vegans often treated Burger King employees rudely, refusing to accept the broiler-substitute solution instead of a flame grill and insisting on watching as the grill was cleaned, then crowing about it online. I must stipulate that treating others rudely is wrong, and no desire for patty purity, however intense, counteracts that. But my own request for a freshly cleaned grill was polite, even downright demure. Was this, too, dehumanizing, unreasonable, and wrong? Well, probably, in a way: Burger King employees work hard in unstable conditions and aren’t paid anything close to the sort of decent, living wage all workers deserve. By participating in the system at all, I was validating it, in some small way, and this was wrong, granted. But … was it more wrong than any other attempt to Have It My Way? I have concluded that it was not. If a vegan is disgusted by animal residue, or if she feels she is doing her small part to spread an ethical truth by bringing public attention to her order, these are at least as valid concerns as another customer’s desire to hold the pickles or add an extra slice of tomato. In at least one restaurant I now know that the grill cannot properly be cleaned, but who’s to say that, in time, the weight of repeated requests for a clean grill might not add up, encouraging franchises to dedicate some untainted cooking real estate to the purpose?

In an email exchange, I spoke with the vegan blogger, Seitanosaurus, about solidarity and what it looks like to stand with the workers at your local burger joint. “The biggest thing people can do is fight for $15 an hour, unions, Medicare for All, etc.,” she wrote. But she said smaller acts of solidarity are an important step. “First, you need to see people as people. Then you can see them as also deserving of the things you have because of class privilege. I think that not asking someone to clean the grill, for most people, is a really big start, because most people are asking in a rush or asking to watch it be cleaned. To begin to step back from that is the beginning of solidarity.”

I can’t agree with her entirely, for reasons I’ve outlined here. Vegetarians are a deep minority—5 percent, according to the Gallup poll I linked above. That’s larger than the number of transgender Americans, a group to which I proudly belong, who are requesting changes in the medical system, changes to state IDs, changes in the use of language, and changes to the TSA screening process, just to name a few. Vegetarians’ relatively few numbers are no reason they shouldn’t be accommodated within a restaurant that recently began serving a patty intended primarily for them. In every dirty grill, these people see the promise of a cleaner, kinder, more ethical, meatless future. This is their dream, and I say let them dream.

I bring you what is possibly the most braindead thing written in the already morally bankrupt clickbait wasteland that is Slate.

Crossover potential: for absolutely no reason whatsoever, the writer mentions they are a troon, and if troons get to demand bathrooms, vegans therefore get to demand grill cleanings.
 
British Vegans Attack a Rabbit Farm in Spain, Get Their Shit Pushed In

This story was hysterical. These idiots break into a farm, start stealing shit, and are shocked, shocked that the farmers are pissed off.



Don't steal from the Spanish version of rednecks.
There seems to be a lot of insane shit involving vegans in Spain.

There was this bimbo who made her pet fennec fox go vegan, the poor thing ended up looking sickly and emaciated:
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Or how about this clown world greatest hits crossover: An 'anti-speciesist, transfeminist, vegan' collective running an animal sanctuary where they separate their chickens by gender to keep the roosters from 'raping' the hens: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...parate-chickens-cockerels-hens-not-raped.html
Vegan activists separate chickens from cockerels on Spanish farm 'so the hens aren't raped' because they do not give 'consent' in video released by 'anti-specist, transfeminist' group
  • Almas Veganas (Vegan Souls) from Girona, Spain, identify as anti-speciesist, transfeminist and libertarian
  • The activists said they based the video on the concept of consent for the hens
  • They smashed the eggs because they said they belonged to the chickens
  • The video was viewed on Twitter 570,000 times with users asking 'is this a joke?'
By RYAN FAHEY FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 11:14 EDT, 3 September 2019 | UPDATED: 16:05 EDT, 3 September 2019
This is the moment two vegan activists separate chickens from cockerels because they 'don't want the hens to be raped'.
The video was released by the Spanish vegan group Almas Veganas (Vegan Souls), based in Girona in the north-eastern Spanish region of Catalonia.
They published the video on Twitter where it has been viewed 570,000 times.
On their Twitter page, the activists describe themselves as 'anti-speciesist' and 'transfeminist.'

Anti-speciesists believe that judging types of animals as different to each other, or humans, is wrong.
They also believe that humans favour and treat some species better, like dogs, which we shouldn't do.

Transfeminism is created by and aimed at transgender women and says that the freedom of trans women is coupled with the liberation of all women.
It also says that any individual should be able to express and define themselves in whichever way they choose without fear of retaliation.
In the footage, the two activists can be seen smashing eggs on the ground because 'they belong to the hens.'

The vegans then reveal that 'we separated the cocks because we don't want the hens to get raped.'
In another video, the activists said that they based their decision on 'the notion of consent.'
The vegans add: 'The hens do not want to be mounted and always try to escape. They are sometimes seriously injured by the cocks' claws as well.'
They also say the hens 'are genetically modified to make them lay more eggs' and they want to 'prevent them from reproducing.'

'Either you are vegan or you help to finance animal slavery. Eating animals is fascist,' they added.

According to reports, the vegan group has recently appeared on several Spanish television shows including the popular talk show 'Todo Es Una Mentira' ('Everything Is A Lie') where they believed they were 'ridiculed' by the presenter.
The footage prompted comments on social media such as 'is this a joke?,' 'there is no room for more morons' and 'you have to be frigging crazy.'
They said afterwards: 'We knew they would make fun of us, but we wanted to use the platform to spread our message anyway.'

The troons in question look exactly like you'd expect them to:
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Sorry if this is old but I just stumbled on this post. Some guy was inquiring on a mathematics board how likely it was that he would get 11 roasters from 12 eggs. Then some crazy vegan posted this:

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It’s obvious she was just replying to pontificate and strut her moral superiority. She also brushed off the mathematical angle altogether.... on a math forum. :story:

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I’m no expert on chicken husbandry, so please correct me if I’m wrong, but chicks can only be sexed at a few days old, right? If we could sex them as eggs, wouldn’t the poultry industry already be doing that?
 
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I’m no expert on chicken husbandry, so please correct me if I’m wrong, but chicks can only be sexed at a few days old, right? If we could sex them as eggs, wouldn’t the poultry industry already be doing that?
Allegedly. A friend from work bought baby chickens from a supposedly reputable hatchery, wanting hens for eggs. About two thirds were roosters. He killed them once they were adults and used them to feed his dog as they were not exactly meaty.
 
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key word, "ex-friend". Vegans are so insufferable that anyone who isn't as crazy as they are distance themselves from the walking dumpster fire. The people to feel sorry for are the families of these vegans though, because they're stuck with them. Any fun that happens at any family gathering comes to a screeching halt the second they show up.
christian vegans are the worst in my opinion because the mental gymnastics they come up with to try and tell people that god demanded everyone to be vegan is outstanding, some of them even believe that animals that eat meat are the creations of satan.
 
Christian vegans are the worst in my opinion because the mental gymnastics they come up with to try and tell people that god demanded everyone to be vegan is outstanding, some of them even believe that animals that eat meat are the creations of satan.

"Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' " (Matt 15:10-11)​
 
Vegans Have Every Right to Demand a Clean Grill for Their Impossible Whoppers
They should do it loudly and proudly.
By EVAN URQUHART
SEPT 10, 20195:49 PM

The Burger King king holding a bunch of carrots.

Photo illustration by Slate. Photos by Burger King and Ljupco/iStock/Getty Images Plus.

In our dystopian fast food culture and its cycle of worker exploitation and environmental decay, there is a new burning question for our times: Is it wrong to ask employees at Burger King to clean the grill before placing a vegan’s Impossible Whopper in reach of its flames?
Vegetarians and vegans began to express alarm at eating a patty tainted by meat residue almost as soon the new burgers arrived at Burger King nationwide this summer. The potential for contamination has been repeatedly mentioned in news coverage, including in Today and CNBC. One potential solution involved using a broiler, away from fat-stained beef grills. But to get the best taste, respondents on vegan forums and Facebook groups have suggested asking employees to clean the grill before fulfilling their order and to cook it that way instead.

Au contraire, countered some vegan activists. A couple of weeks ago, Seitanosaurus, a vegan blogger, implored her fellows to please, for the sake of solidarity, stop asking Burger King employees to clean the grill, in a post that has been widely shared and discussed in these same circles (see the discussion on the Facebook group for The Bearded Vegans podcast). The argument contained these points:
A worker could be fired for taking the time to clean a grill, because fast food restaurants time their employees on every order. It is an offense to the dignity of Burger King employees to ask them to clean the grill for you. Working at Burger King is hard enough already without adding superfluous grill cleanings. The reputation of vegans will suffer if vegans go around making unreasonable requests, such as asking for a clean grill.

Is this correct? What are a vegan’s responsibilities here? This entire debate will inevitably inspire eye-rolls from many people, and I understand the instinct. But it goes to the heart of the quandary, and opportunity, Impossible burgers represent.

In some ways, this might seem like a moot question. So you believe it’s ethically wrong to eat meat, as most vegans do. Is it really equally wrong to inadvertently eat a bit of meat residue from a previous customer’s meaty Whopper that has attached itself to your vegan patty? There are no additional animals harmed if the residue is left to accrue than if it’s cleansed, so by that measure, the act of consuming microscopic particles of meat would be ethically nullified.

But even if you accept that premise (and many vegan and vegetarians wouldn’t), there’s still reason not to keep quiet. If eating animals is ethically wrong, then the 5 percent of Americans who are vegetarians have a lot of work to do in convincing the 95 percent of us who tear into the flesh of beasts with our teeth for sustenance. In that context, it is no virtue to be a well-behaved vegetarian who avoids drawing attention to himself. Alerting others, including Burger King employees and people waiting nearby, to one’s abstention from carnivorous pursuits could serve as a small act of consciousness-raising. Vegans can decide for themselves whether avoiding meat residue is an important part of their practice, but it doesn’t seem wise to avoid this issue for the sake of tactical civility.

What to do, then, at Burger King, when a worker is in the crosshairs of your struggle? This does seem to be a widespread issue. Even at my local Burger King in a rural California town where agriculture is the primary industry, a girl I recently met at the counter told me she was asked for a grill cleaning to prevent protein contamination in Impossible Whoppers “all the time.” This young employee also suggested that this particular store’s grill could not be cleaned without substantial disassembly but that an uncontaminated Whopper could be cooked in the broiler, far from any meat. I proceeded to order an Impossible Burger with just a slight feeling of embarrassment at having passed, briefly, for a finicky vegan whose lips must not touch meat. (I can, at least, report that the taste of the Impossible patty was … quite good. After announcing to my companion that I’d only have a bite or two—just to see what it was like—I soon found I’d been seduced into polishing off the entire thing.)

In the screenshotted examples the vegan blogger provided, vegans often treated Burger King employees rudely, refusing to accept the broiler-substitute solution instead of a flame grill and insisting on watching as the grill was cleaned, then crowing about it online. I must stipulate that treating others rudely is wrong, and no desire for patty purity, however intense, counteracts that. But my own request for a freshly cleaned grill was polite, even downright demure. Was this, too, dehumanizing, unreasonable, and wrong? Well, probably, in a way: Burger King employees work hard in unstable conditions and aren’t paid anything close to the sort of decent, living wage all workers deserve. By participating in the system at all, I was validating it, in some small way, and this was wrong, granted. But … was it more wrong than any other attempt to Have It My Way? I have concluded that it was not. If a vegan is disgusted by animal residue, or if she feels she is doing her small part to spread an ethical truth by bringing public attention to her order, these are at least as valid concerns as another customer’s desire to hold the pickles or add an extra slice of tomato. In at least one restaurant I now know that the grill cannot properly be cleaned, but who’s to say that, in time, the weight of repeated requests for a clean grill might not add up, encouraging franchises to dedicate some untainted cooking real estate to the purpose?

In an email exchange, I spoke with the vegan blogger, Seitanosaurus, about solidarity and what it looks like to stand with the workers at your local burger joint. “The biggest thing people can do is fight for $15 an hour, unions, Medicare for All, etc.,” she wrote. But she said smaller acts of solidarity are an important step. “First, you need to see people as people. Then you can see them as also deserving of the things you have because of class privilege. I think that not asking someone to clean the grill, for most people, is a really big start, because most people are asking in a rush or asking to watch it be cleaned. To begin to step back from that is the beginning of solidarity.”

I can’t agree with her entirely, for reasons I’ve outlined here. Vegetarians are a deep minority—5 percent, according to the Gallup poll I linked above. That’s larger than the number of transgender Americans, a group to which I proudly belong, who are requesting changes in the medical system, changes to state IDs, changes in the use of language, and changes to the TSA screening process, just to name a few. Vegetarians’ relatively few numbers are no reason they shouldn’t be accommodated within a restaurant that recently began serving a patty intended primarily for them. In every dirty grill, these people see the promise of a cleaner, kinder, more ethical, meatless future. This is their dream, and I say let them dream.

I bring you what is possibly the most braindead thing written in the already morally bankrupt clickbait wasteland that is Slate.

Crossover potential: for absolutely no reason whatsoever, the writer mentions they are a troon, and if troons get to demand bathrooms, vegans therefore get to demand grill cleanings.

It doesn't seem like that much of a hassle to clean a grillor use a separate one for veggie patties tho tbh.
 
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For once, I do kind of think the vegans have a point. If Burger King aren’t fully committed to the vegan thing, including ensuring cross-contamination doesn’t occur, then the Impossible Whopper is just meaningless corporate virtue signalling.

That being said, the poor sod you just forced to clean a grill is not the policy maker, so don’t be an asshole. Writing to BK would be a more direct, less ambiguous way to get your message across.
 
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