Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[AStupidMonkey]

...Should I be ashamed that I spent ages trying to figure out who the fuck she was cosplaying as?

A victim. She was cosplaying as a victim.

 

[Bender]

A victim. She was cosplaying as a victim.

But is is cosplaying if she truly believes she is a victim?

 

[Mister Y]

She literally said this

There is a wide range of interpretation in what "berating" might mean here.
If it's "you should have done this differently" in regard to his legal strategy, it's not necessarily ill intended.
I stand by my words, you can't tell for sure that he was "talking shit" to Vic.

Also, separate the emotions from the informations, otherwise you're no better than KV.
Svetlana's feelings about Chuck during that event should not be used as evidence of his intends.
You basically did a "he hurt her feelings, therefore he is bad", sounds familiar?

 

[HighwayStar]

Jinnie (the Anime Milwaukee affiant) is talking about Vic here, the lawsuit and rumor panels. Despite some dumb shit, this stood out.

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Looks like someone Vic has been talking to, whom he regards as a trustworthy friend, has been leaking private matters to people who aren't friendly with Vic, namely Jinnie here. I'm genuinely sorry for this, as if Vic doesn't have enough trust issues already.

I would take all this with a grain of salt. First of all, what exactly does she mean by "quest"? A quest for what? For revenge? To clear his name? To ruin lives? To save lives? To put a company out of business? To save a company and put the real bad guys out of business? To buy an even gayer pair of pants?

As far as seeing himself as a victim and disassociating himself from the grind, well, duh, the guy had his career maliciously destroyed by parasites like you and you have yet to show any proof of the "grind" he committed it. Either she made this whole thing up or someone did tell her something, but she massaged it to suit her agenda (which happens a lot in the wonderful world of KickVic).

I may have an idea on who
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I really don't know how following a fat loser like her instantly makes him a prime suspect. Granted, it does look a little devious, especially with fatso's tweet and if what @Svetlana says is true about him berating Vic during the TCPA, but this ignores a few things. For one, he could've been following her since the beginning, before this firestorm even began (notice that she created her account in 2009, not 2019). Not to mention, Huber has recently started this idea of following back fans who followed him. Also, I went twitter surfing and of all the people he's been following, Jamie Marchi, Chris Sabat, Sean Schemmel, Sharon Grigsby, Dallas Morning News, Mike Dumpster, Dominique Shit and T. Bag Doofus are not among them (Monica Rial blocked me, but I can't imagine Huber following her if he's not even following Sabat).

@Svetlana Might be good to pass this on to Vic. Ask him who he talked to recently who could also be friends with Jinnie. Might be best to cease communication with that person...or maybe ask them why they thought it'd be a good idea to leak private stuff to other parties.

I'm not even involved here and I am developing trust issues

I know a lot of people at Kiwi Farms are very anxious about this and I know the website has a very strict policy of "powerleveling", but I have a little secret to tell everybody on Kiwi Farms that may interest you and why you should take everything on Twitter with a grain of salt.

Bottom line, Vic has more friends in the voice acting community than a lot of people think.

How do I know? I emailed him last week around this time and asked him if he had any voice actors supporting him, and he responded in his own words:

"Yes, they're actually many voice actors who have reached out to me and expressed their support and encouragement. I don't blame them for not coming out publicly. I wouldn't wish this garbage on anyone."

 

[Duke-Diggler]

I would take all this with a grain of salt. First of all, what exactly does she mean by "quest"? A quest for what? For revenge? To clear his name? To ruin lives? To save lives? To put a company out of business? To save a company and put the real bad guys out of business? To buy an even gayer pair of pants?

As far as seeing himself as a victim and disassociating himself from the grind, well, duh, the guy had his career maliciously destroyed by parasites like you and you have yet to show any proof of the "grind" he committed it. Either she made this whole thing up or someone did tell her something, but she massaged it to suit her agenda (which happens a lot in the wonderful world of KickVic).



I really don't know how following a fat loser like her instantly makes him a prime suspect. Granted, it does look a little devious, especially with fatso's tweet and if what @Svetlana says is true about him berating Vic during the TCPA, but this ignores a few things. For one, he could've been following her since the beginning, before this firestorm even began (notice that she created her account in 2009, not 2019). Not to mention, Huber has recently started this idea of following back fans who followed him. Also, I went twitter surfing and of all the people he's been following, Jamie Marchi, Chris Sabat, Sean Schemmel, Sharon Grigsby, Dallas Morning News, Mike Dumpster, Dominique Shit and T. Bag Doofus are not among them (Monica Rial blocked me, but I can't imagine Huber following her if he's not even following Sabat).



I know a lot of people at Kiwi Farms are very anxious about this and I know the website has a very strict policy of "powerleveling", but I have a little secret to tell everybody on Kiwi Farms that may interest you and why you should take everything on Twitter with a grain of salt.

Bottom line, Vic has more friends in the voice acting community than a lot of people think.

How do I know? I emailed him last week around this time and asked him if he had any voice actors supporting him, and he responded in his own words:

"Yes, they're actually many voice actors who have reached out to me and expressed their support and encouragement. I don't blame them for not coming out publicly. I wouldn't wish this garbage on anyone."

No one wants to come forward if the career in question is THIS corrupt.

 

[TheClappening]

Bottom line, Vic has more friends in the voice acting community than a lot of people think.

How do I know? I emailed him last week around this time and asked him if he had any voice actors supporting him, and he responded in his own words:

"Yes, they're actually many voice actors who have reached out to me and expressed their support and encouragement. I don't blame them for not coming out publicly. I wouldn't wish this garbage on anyone."

This lines up with what Nick has said a few times.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Correction, the shota-loving, big tit-monster Lucoa talks about the patriarchy, not gamergate. Why haven't more Japanese studios been made aware of this shit over the past 5 years and how their source material is being co-opted for political agenda? My guess is they just don't know about it, and it's taken this Vic shit and "my son's a fag" Goku to open some of their eyes back in nip land.

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Because the people that would tell them are the same bilingual people doing this shit to the shows (and games, and comics, and coming soon, the novels) in the first place.

 

[General Gunther]

https://twitter.com/UnderdogBT/status/1185653291360903168

https://archive.fo/1aeM5

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

Emosh put it on Youtube if you want higher quality footage.

 

[quickthrowaway]

How do I know? I emailed him last week around this time and asked him if he had any voice actors supporting him, and he responded in his own words:

"Yes, they're actually many voice actors who have reached out to me and expressed their support and encouragement. I don't blame them for not coming out publicly. I wouldn't wish this garbage on anyone."

Emphasis my own. Your quote from Vic doesn't disprove that any one of these "friends" could be talking shit privately.

Look, you seem to at least have good intentions, but you continuing to do damage control for these va's is making you look naive at best and idiotic at worst. This whole debacle has shown that all these so called friends and colleagues are nothing more than snakes. It's good to be skeptical of Twitter nobodies, but one should also be skeptical of fully trusting anyone near the Texas clique. All of these dub actors need to show themselves to be trustworthy cause they have all collectively lost anyone's blind trust a long time ago.

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Except people like the guy who rewrote the Prison School dub was bragging about changing it and pushing his agenda on Twitter. All these no talent hacks are untrustworthy.

https://archive.fo/rbpDP

 

[Random Internet Person]

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Emphasis my own. Your quote from Vic doesn't disprove that any one of these "friends" could be talking shit privately.

Look, you seem to at least have good intentions, but you continuing to do damage control for these va's is making you look naive at best and idiotic at worst. This whole debacle has shown that all these so called friends and colleagues are nothing more than snakes. It's good to be skeptical of Twitter nobodies, but one should also be skeptical of fully trusting anyone near the Texas clique. All of these dub actors need to show themselves to be trustworthy cause they have all collectively lost anyone's blind trust a long time ago.


Except people like the guy who rewrote the Prison School dub was bragging about changing it and pushing his agenda on Twitter. All these no talent hacks are untrustworthy.

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I'm willing to bet that these were the same people that bitched about Uranus and Neptune's relationship being changed back in the day. I'm wondering if they hate us for not liking left wing things THEIR way, much less trying to stop their leftist utopia from happening.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

Emphasis my own. Your quote from Vic doesn't disprove that any one of these "friends" could be talking shit privately.

Look, you seem to at least have good intentions, but you continuing to do damage control for these va's is making you look naive at best and idiotic at worst. This whole debacle has shown that all these so called friends and colleagues are nothing more than snakes. It's good to be skeptical of Twitter nobodies, but one should also be skeptical of fully trusting anyone near the Texas clique. All of these dub actors need to show themselves to be trustworthy cause they have all collectively lost anyone's blind trust a long time ago.

I, for one, demand he start open-carrying and twitter DMing the lol-cows. HEAR hear!

(Hm... come to think of it... that join date...)

(Nah. Couldn't be...)

 

[HighwayStar]

Emphasis my own. Your quote from Vic doesn't disprove that anyone of these "friends" could be talking shit privately.

Look, you seem to at least have good intentions, but you continuing to do damage control for these va's is making you look naive at best and idiotic at worst. This whole debacle has shown that all these so called friends and colleagues are nothing more than snakes. It's good to be skeptical of Twitter nobodies, but one should also be skeptical of fully trusting anyone near the Texas clique. All of these dub actors need to show themselves to be trustworthy cause they have all collectively lost anyone's blind trust a long time ago.


Except people like the guy who rewrote the Prison School dub was bragging about changing it and pushing his agenda on Twitter. All these no talent hacks are untrustworthy.

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I understand what you’re saying and I agree with you on a couple of points, but I’m not doing damage control: I’m being realistic. It’s true that they’re a lot of assholes in Funimation and they did deserve to lose a fan’s trust, but at the same time, you seem to imply that everyone who doesn’t publicly support Vic is either treacherous or a corporate zombie, which I vehemently disagree with.

The reason some of these people haven’t shown to be “trustworthy” in public is because they want to go to work and go home with a paycheck. They don’t want to lose their jobs for one man, even if that man is their friend. It really sucks, but in the corporate environment, it’s about making money and trying to survival, and that’s the reality.

In the case of Vic, it’s even more complex because he is still considered persona non grata in the industry, so much that tagging him could get you fired. He’s also suing the company and two of its employees, and some of his friends also happen to work in that company. Why on Earth would anyone risk losing their job to support someone in a lawsuit against your employer, even if that former employee is your friend?

Quickthroaway, you are absolutely right that we should be skeptical about many of the Texas VA’s and if it turns out that some of these people Vic says are secretly supportive are in fact scumbags and they were never his friends, then shame on me, I take back everything I said. But at the same time, we shouldn’t just jump to conclusions immediately. That email may not “disprove” that Vic’s friends are talking shit privately, but those happy clips of some of the Funimation VA’s promoting their shows may not disprove that they are supporting Vic privately either.

That is the opposite of damage control.

 

[FadeIntoObsurity]

Jinnie (the Anime Milwaukee affiant) is talking about Vic here, the lawsuit and rumor panels. Despite some dumb shit, this stood out.

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Looks like someone Vic has been talking to, whom he regards as a trustworthy friend, has been leaking private matters to people who aren't friendly with Vic, namely Jinnie here. I'm genuinely sorry for this, as if Vic doesn't have enough trust issues already.

@Svetlana Might be good to pass this on to Vic. Ask him who he talked to recently who could also be friends with Jinnie. Might be best to cease communication with that person...or maybe ask them why they thought it'd be a good idea to leak private stuff to other parties.

I'm not even involved here and I am developing trust issues

If they'd listen to Vic's side of the story, of course he's the victim. He's been attacked on social media for months. I'm not sure what this disassociation thing is all about. He genuinely didn't know he was making people uncomfortable.

Of course it is just as baffling to me to see Monica and company continue appear as though they are genuinely victims. If you only listen to their side then of course they seem like victims. But if you listen to Vic's side and weigh everything out... It all leans in Vic's favor. You just need a rational person to listen to him though.

Also, I wouldn't doubt Vic has more support from VAs than we think. Maybe most support is from the CA VAs, but let's not forget that there have been VAs giving info to Nick behind the scenes. We still don't know who sides with Vic that would make Monica cry if she found out. The TX VAs don't have much choice but to remain quiet since the clique they are up against holds more power in the company than Vic ever had.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Decided to upload the vid in the off-chance Skye's orbiters swarm UnrealNetwork's channel to get the video taken down for blowing her fat ass out of the water.
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@mindlessobserver This is something that must be in the OP.

 

[quickthrowaway]

I understand what you’re saying and I agree with you on a couple of points, but I’m not doing damage control: I’m being realistic. It’s true that they’re a lot of assholes in Funimation and they did deserve to lose a fan’s trust, but at the same time, you seem to imply that everyone who doesn’t publicly support Vic is either treacherous or a corporate zombie, which I vehemently disagree with.

The reason some of these people haven’t shown to be “trustworthy” in public is because they want to go to work and go home with a paycheck. They don’t want to lose their jobs for one man, even if that man is their friend. It really sucks, but in the corporate environment, it’s about making money and trying to survival, and that’s the reality.

In the case of Vic, it’s even more complex because he is still considered persona non grata in the industry, so much that tagging him could get you fired. He’s also suing the company and two of its employees, and some of his friends also happen to work in that company. Why on Earth would anyone risk losing their job to support someone in a lawsuit against your employer, even if that former employee is your friend?

If it turns out that some of these people Vic says are secretly supportive are in fact scumbags and they were never his friends, then shame on me, I take back everything I said. But right now, we shouldn’t just jump to conclusions immediately. That email may not “disprove” that Vic’s friends are talking shit privately, but those happy clips of some of the Funimation VA’s promoting their shows may not disprove that they are supporting Vic privately either.

That is the opposite of damage control.

My problem is that in spite of evidence for it, you seem to think it's more likely that tons of people are secretly supporting Vic. When that has as much likelihood and evidence as them talking shit behind him.

You also blatantly contradict yourself when you say you disagree with these people being "corporate zombies" and then go on to say that they gotta play ball in a corporate environment to make money and survive.

You are bending over backwards to defend these people when you shouldn't have to. If these Vic allies are so supportive then merely speculating and presuming most people in the Texas dub scene are against Vic should be no problem

 

[Yuusha-sama]

Hallo everyone!
@damian left a gift for us!

Happy Birthday Ryumoau!
This post is his Birthday present from the Farms.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/iswv-community-thread.60652/page-16#post-5484564

 

[HighwayStar]

My problem is that in spite of evidence for it, you seem to think it's more likely that tons of people are secretly supporting Vic. When that has as much likelihood and evidence as them talking shit behind him.

You also blatantly contradict yourself when you say you disagree with these people being "corporate zombies" and then go on to say that they gotta play ball in a corporate environment to make money and survive.

You are bending over backwards to defend these people when you shouldn't have to. If these Vic allies are so supportive then merely speculating and presuming most people in the Texas dub scene are against Vic should be no problem

It’s not that I’m being a defender; I’m just trying to look at things from various angles since it’s easy to make assumptions.

But you’re right that we should be skeptical. The world is not as black and white as it seems. I also agree with you about that contradictory statement I made. That was a brain fart on my part and I’m glad you admonished me for it.

By the way, thank you for a very civilized response. I know you’ve disagreed with me in the past, but I really appreciate this.

 

[TheClappening]

Crosspost from the Monica thread

In Marchi's thread I noted she has a lead role this season (Ristarte from Cautious Hero).

Looks like Monica Rial might have one, too. I don't know how significant her character is, but she's sharing space with all around asshole Chris Rager and fellow KamehaCon breacher Sarah Wiedenheft.

https://twitter.com/FUNimation/status/1185631756810108928?s=20

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[Son of Sparda 84]

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