Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[mooserangerofthenorth]

Central lines are always measured pre placement, and XRayed post placement. It seems the hospital is making a lot of "mistakes".

 

[Ms.bojangles]

Thanks for the explanation, and yes, i was giving her too much credit! But I assure you that you could probably get the same results using a cheap or free image editor. I looked at her thumbnails and thought that she was selling more than just setting adjustments, and i am dumb for that. I figured there were custom filters and maybe brushes or font sets because her thumbnails look like the special template sets you can buy for presentations and graphic design/branding. I almost felt bad for questioning her wrist issue again!

Alright guys. I've spent a long time (5 minutes on a free app) to make this awesome Halloween preset. This week only charging $15!! Let me know if you want it. Also I might be dying from some unknown cause so any money spent is going to a good cause just so you're aware.

 

[Dr. Celery MD]

Despite wanting to be the sickest little princess in the hospital she's already more productive than most of the beasts in the fat acceptance thread.

It's a low bar, but still.

Ah yes, setting the bar so low even they can step over it.

 

[Spooniest spoon]

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Alright guys. I've spent a long time (5 minutes on a free app) to make this awesome Halloween preset. This week only charging $15!! Let me know if you want it. Also I might be dying from some unknown cause so any money spent is going to a good cause just so you're aware.

Tardcum - The preset

My new theory for the endless drama is she's just bored out of her mind sat in hospital all day. E-begging and sickstagramming only kills so much time.

 

[Cold Waffle]

SJ Posted a video of her adventures in wasting taxpayers' money and travelers' time.

Abstract: A 34-year-old woman meets up with a friend in an airport for a flight to New York City. While riding her unnecessary wheelchair onto the plane, she somehow destroys her unnecessary IV line. She films the entire endeavor and makes a point to show the blood on her hands. Instead of pulling the line, applying pressure, and throwing a bandaid over it, she uses alcohol pads over the broken end. Upon landing, EMTs meet her at the gate. She asks them to give her a new IV and she lives happily ever after. Complains about her IV pump and line and being hungry in her hotel room. Should she go to a NY hospital to get it fixed? She is not sure. Fin.

 

[IBrokeBob]

Has Kelly Gant (and daughter) ever been on anyones radar for mbp ?

Mother is charge with murder of 'sick' 7-year-old daughter

Kelly Gant, 41, was arrested Friday for the 2017 death of her daughter Olivia, 7, at a hotel in the Denver area. She claimed Olivia suffered from illnesses but doctor's were skeptical.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Mother who raised $22k on GoFundMe for 'terminally ill' daughter's bucket list is arrested for the 7-year-old's murder after police became suspicious when she claimed her other child had cancer

• Kelly Gant, 41, was arrested over the 2017 death of her daughter Olivia, 7
• Olivia's body was exhumed in 2018 after police became suspicious about her death when Gant claimed another daughter had cancer
• Gant claimed Olivia suffered from multiple illnesses, some terminal, and withdrew her medical care leading up to her death
• An indictment claimed Gant argued that the humane thing to do was to stop care and allow her daughter to die because her quality of life was so poor
• But several of Olivia's doctors didn't believe her medical issues were terminal and doubted her diagnoses
• Gant is accused of persuading a doctor to initiate a 'Do Not Resuscitate' order
• At the time, Olivia's cause of death was determined as intestinal failure, but her body was exhumed and a forensic pathologist found no evidence of it
• There was also no evidence of any other illnesses she was claimed to have
• Gant has been charged with defrauding the Medicaid system of more than $538,000 and ripping off the Make-a-Wish Foundation and several charities
• Gant is charged with two counts first-degree murder and one count of child abuse for diagnosing another one of her daughter's with cancer
• Gant denied any wrongdoing during questioning but mentioned the psychological disorder Munchausen syndrome by proxy

 

[LahLahBlackSheep]

Has Kelly Gant (and daughter) ever been on anyones radar for mbp ?

That is fucking horrific. Wow...anytime these munchies say 'doctors don't give tubes if you don't need them' I think of cases like this.

I wish they'd said what the little girl DID die of. But I guess they probably can't figure it out this late after she's been gone?

 

[IBrokeBob]

That is fucking horrific. Wow...anytime these munchies say 'doctors don't give tubes if you don't need them' I think of cases like this.

I wish they'd said what the little girl DID die of. But I guess they probably can't figure it out this late after she's been gone?

Kelly Gants is also known as Kelly Renee Turner

Mother of girl who died after long illness indicted on murder, theft, fraud and child abuse allegations

Olivia Gant's story played out on TV as she checked items off her "bucket list" before succumbing at age 7.

www.9news.com

From the link above:
"Although the indictment does not make clear the specific cause of Olivia’s death, it notes that Turner withdrew medical care and nourishment in the girl’s final weeks...

But the indictment paints a much more sinister picture: Multiple doctors who didn’t believe Olivia was terminally ill battling a mother who was so persuasive that she convinced one of the physicians to sign a “do not resuscitate” order and ultimately withdrew all of her daughter’s medical care – including what is known as Total Parenteral Nutrition, which provided nourishment through an intravenous line.

At the time, according to the indictment, Turner argued that Olivia was so sick, and her quality of life so poor, that the humane thing to do was to stop medical care and allow her to die.

Olivia died a few weeks later, on Aug. 20, 2017.
One of her multiple physicians, Dr. Robert Kramer, told investigators he was stunned by the turn of events.

“Dr. Kramer said that (Olivia) was not a terminal patient and was ‘shocked’ when he heard that Turner withdrew all medical care and (Olivia) passed away,” according to the affidavit.
Turner denied any wrongdoing when she was questioned by investigators from the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office."

 

[Punkinsplice]

I dont like this . I want to ridicule idiots who mess themselves up! This woman is a monster and the poor kid is dead.

 

[ZapThePickle]

Central lines are always measured pre placement, and XRayed post placement. It seems the hospital is making a lot of "mistakes".

*cough cough* tampering

Pic lines are damn scary! She is barking up the wrong tree pulling on that thing!

They need to keep her strapped down...hope that happens next

"I wAs HeLd AgAiNsT mY wIlL"

 

[ADHD]

Two day's after Olivia's death, Gant posted: 'August 20th, 2017 will be a day of utter JOY for me. Ive seen all the numerous posts on facebook of everyone saddened and heartbroken over the loss of sweet livi and all day I have wondered why?

'I couldnt help it, I took a picture at 736pm and she took her last breath at 740pm. There were tears but only for a moment...The Dr was called, other workers to let them know she had passed. Within about 30 minutes staff members were showing up to hug us, love us, cry but mostly tell of how she touched them.'

"I can't imagine why people were sad when my daughter died, it was one of the happiest days of my life!"

I sure do hope all the inmates wherever she ends up know exactly what she did to end up there.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

SJ Posted a video of her adventures in wasting taxpayers' money and travelers' time.

Abstract: A 34-year-old woman meets up with a friend in an airport for a flight to New York City. While riding her unnecessary wheelchair onto the plane, she somehow destroys her unnecessary IV line. She films the entire endeavor and makes a point to show the blood on her hands. Instead of pulling the line, applying pressure, and throwing a bandaid over it, she uses alcohol pads over the broken end. Upon landing, EMTs meet her at the gate. She asks them to give her a new IV and she lives happily ever after. Complains about her IV pump and line and being hungry in her hotel room. Should she go to a NY hospital to get it fixed? She is not sure. Fin.

Is this the second time in the last 2 weeks she's bled in a plane or two vlogs about the same drama?

 

[Cold Waffle]

Is this the second time in the last 2 weeks she's bled in a plane or two vlogs about the same drama?

The first incident was when she held up an entire plane because she didn't just tell the flight attendants that her toob is an IV for saline (she kept saying "medication"). They thought it was an oxygen cannula, which would need clearance or something. Maybe because of pressure? She held up the entire plane because of it.

This time, the EMT squad showed up because she was being so OTT. Why anyone would keep a broken peripheral line in them on an airplane is beyond me. It's a cesspool of bacteria. She could have just taken it out and bought a couple bottles of Pedialyte at one of the 500 Duane Reade corner shops in New York. Same thing, but with zero infection risk and zero waste of tax dollars and time. Her profound lack of self-awareness makes her my favorite idiot.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

All the bracing going on in munchieland is disturbing in itself. Any brace a doctor or PT prescribes comes with specific instructions on how to wear it and the safe maximum hours per day for wear. If you buy them from Amazon without expert input, you can actually ( as Maxie has stated) fuck yourself up pretty well. Maybe this is the intention?

This will change based on whether their is injury or instability. BUT there is a general rule of thumb for static bracing in EDS. A static brace, which does not allow movement of a particular joint or joints, like a neck brace, should only be worn a maximum of 2-4 hours daily. In EDS, it is only to provide a respite for overtaxed muscles when a patient lacks the appropriate tension in ligaments and tendons which would normally prevent the overtaxed muscles. This helps limit spasms but does not prevent range of motion or tightening of muscles that can cause more serious issue.

Any static bracing beyond that should be ONLY used in an EDS patient as part of a pre-op regimen where joint stabilization surgery will soon be performed, when not using the brace could cause serious harm. An example of this would be someone with spondylolisthesis in the neck that has reached grade 3 or 4 and surgery has been scheduled.

As of right now, the only bracing that would and should be considered within an EDS patient are dynamic braces that allow somewhat normal joint movement of the major joints but allow limits in the flexion and extension and provide lateral joint stability. And these should only be used in a joint with history of instability and pain.

 

[Poop Shoot]

This will change based on whether their is injury or instability. BUT there is a general rule of thumb for static bracing in EDS. A static brace, which does not allow movement of a particular joint or joints, like a neck brace, should only be worn a maximum of 2-4 hours daily. In EDS, it is only to provide a respite for overtaxed muscles when a patient lacks the appropriate tension in ligaments and tendons which would normally prevent the overtaxed muscles. This helps limit spasms but does not prevent range of motion or tightening of muscles that can cause more serious issue.

Any static bracing beyond that should be ONLY used in an EDS patient as part of a pre-op regimen where joint stabilization surgery will soon be performed, when not using the brace could cause serious harm. An example of this would be someone with spondylolisthesis in the neck that has reached grade 3 or 4 and surgery has been scheduled.

As of right now, the only bracing that would and should be considered within an EDS patient are dynamic braces that allow somewhat normal joint movement of the major joints but allow limits in the flexion and extension and provide lateral joint stability. And these should only be used in a joint with history of instability and pain.

I love the idea of these idiot's pretend neck issues actually turning into real neck issues.

I hope they sneeze and tear something.

 

[Punkinsplice]

This will change based on whether their is injury or instability. BUT there is a general rule of thumb for static bracing in EDS. A static brace, which does not allow movement of a particular joint or joints, like a neck brace, should only be worn a maximum of 2-4 hours daily. In EDS, it is only to provide a respite for overtaxed muscles when a patient lacks the appropriate tension in ligaments and tendons which would normally prevent the overtaxed muscles. This helps limit spasms but does not prevent range of motion or tightening of muscles that can cause more serious issue.

Any static bracing beyond that should be ONLY used in an EDS patient as part of a pre-op regimen where joint stabilization surgery will soon be performed, when not using the brace could cause serious harm. An example of this would be someone with spondylolisthesis in the neck that has reached grade 3 or 4 and surgery has been scheduled.

As of right now, the only bracing that would and should be considered within an EDS patient are dynamic braces that allow somewhat normal joint movement of the major joints but allow limits in the flexion and extension and provide lateral joint stability. And these should only be used in a joint with history of instability and pain.

Since you seem to have expertise in the subject, have you seen or heard of the oval 8 finger braces? I keep seeing people who claim to have EDS wear them. I thought they were used more for straightening fingers deformed by RA or nerve entrapment. Do they do anything for hypermobile fingers?

 

[large_farva]

Sarah-Jean, defining "over the top" for us.

43 seconds of cutesy music dubbed over a video of her chair being loaded on the plane. This just made me laugh. It's like she's in love with her 'costume' chair.

 

[Spewnie]

Since you seem to have expertise in the subject, have you seen or heard of the oval 8 finger braces? I keep seeing people who claim to have EDS wear them. I thought they were used more for straightening fingers deformed by RA or nerve entrapment. Do they do anything for hypermobile fingers?

They can help with swan-neck deformities, which is the main reason for anyone with hypermobility to wear them, but most munchies pile them on, almost definitely to their detriment.

 

[medicaidmunch]

Since you seem to have expertise in the subject, have you seen or heard of the oval 8 finger braces? I keep seeing people who claim to have EDS wear them. I thought they were used more for straightening fingers deformed by RA or nerve entrapment. Do they do anything for hypermobile fingers?

ring splints do legitimately work for people with EDS and stop fingers from hyperextending. the issue is that a bunch of people just order them from etsy (yeah they sell them on there) instead of getting measured properly by an OT and ordering from an actual company after being told by a doctor that they really need to wear them. so you’re probably seeing the equivalent of costume jewelry.

 

[Vanilla Donut]

Kelly Gants is also known as Kelly Renee Turner

Mother of girl who died after long illness indicted on murder, theft, fraud and child abuse allegations

Olivia Gant's story played out on TV as she checked items off her "bucket list" before succumbing at age 7.

www.9news.com

From the link above:
"Although the indictment does not make clear the specific cause of Olivia’s death, it notes that Turner withdrew medical care and nourishment in the girl’s final weeks...

But the indictment paints a much more sinister picture: Multiple doctors who didn’t believe Olivia was terminally ill battling a mother who was so persuasive that she convinced one of the physicians to sign a “do not resuscitate” order and ultimately withdrew all of her daughter’s medical care – including what is known as Total Parenteral Nutrition, which provided nourishment through an intravenous line.

At the time, according to the indictment, Turner argued that Olivia was so sick, and her quality of life so poor, that the humane thing to do was to stop medical care and allow her to die.

Olivia died a few weeks later, on Aug. 20, 2017.
One of her multiple physicians, Dr. Robert Kramer, told investigators he was stunned by the turn of events.

“Dr. Kramer said that (Olivia) was not a terminal patient and was ‘shocked’ when he heard that Turner withdrew all medical care and (Olivia) passed away,” according to the affidavit.
Turner denied any wrongdoing when she was questioned by investigators from the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office."

Jesus, how the fuck do you convince a doctor to starve your own child to death? I’m not sure if I’d be more horrified at the little girl knowing she could eat and drink but was denied anything or if she’d long been convinced that she “wasn’t allowed” to have anything by her mother so didn’t bother asking. Starving to death is damn painful, especially once the electrolyte deficiencies kick in, so I hope she at least had good palliative care in her last days. Sounds like her whole life was made to be fairly shit regardless, hopefully she could enjoy some small moments despite being doped up to her eyeballs with epilepsy medication.

I’m just gonna keep laughing at these dumb fucks who play with their central lines and toobs to give themselves sepsis while thinking that their doctors don’t know to distract myself from those horrifying thoughts.