Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Positron]

Why doesn't Jazz have a libido? Or rather, if he still had his penis, wouldn't he still have been able to feel some form of excitement from stimulation on it due to the Estrogen, as though it were like a clit? If not, how does a women have a libido? What makes it different biologically besides the configuration of the genitals? What chemicals are allowing them to feel excitement but not Jazz?

The brain needs to be wired up in a certain way to generate sexual urge and achieve orgasm. The chemical soup Jaron has taken for a decade prevented this.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

Enlarging a clit =/= growing a dick. One is cosmetic, and the other requires total genetic and molecular changes to happen. Not all changes are on the same level of intensity.

Jazz can't function sexually because he never went trough normal puberty & didn't have female puberty either because he is male ffs.

Agreed. I don't know how this is so hard to understand. His body, and especially his brain, were literally never given the chance to develop. By the time he was taken off it was too late for his body to do anything. The parts he had were beyond repair. He has been effectively frozen at whatever age he got the blockers forever. Some tuberous breasts aren't going to convince me otherwise. He acts like a little boy because he has been locked in at little boy. No amount of hormones will change that.

He's said that he's pansexual before. I don't buy it for a second. To have sexual attraction you have to have, ahem, sexual arousal. Sexual desire. He's been so catastrophically castrated that I'm positive he's been induced into an asexual being. But PR and Narc Mom don't like that message being broadcast, so they put out that "Jazz loves all human beings!" to make it seem like he's a "normal" kid with a normal libido. Guess they forgot that the show confirmed that Jazz can't even conceptualize what an orgasm would be like. Jazz has expressed frustration that boys think it'd be gay to date him, but I don't know if that's just him thinking that he has to be with a boy or if he wants a relationship but has no concept of what that entails because he became an eunuch at an early age.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

I just had a thought: what if Jazz didn't get a nose job because Jeanette was scared that, sans baboon honker, her son would be prettier than her?

 

[Spastic Colon]

I just had a thought: what if Jazz didn't get a nose job because Jeanette was scared that, sans baboon honker, her son would be prettier than her?

But he's still prettier than her ...

 

[Tasty Tatty]

What's even the discussion here?

Jazz could have never gone through female puberty because he's not a female. His body and brain work as a male body and a male brain. If you give him estrogen, he's gonna be a male with high estrogen levels, not a female.

Sexual development occurs during puberty. Jazz was given hormones that stunt puberty. The hormones and organs that are required to experience libido, he doesn't have them. Doesn't matter if he got a surgery that gave him a super-vagina, that's not how biology works. Libido isn't in the penis or in the vagina: libido is something that happens when your genitals and your brain work together. And he's being denied the proper hormones that make his brain experience libido because it needs MALE HORMONES for it.

Gonna use my analogy again: If I get eagle wings surgically attached to my back, that doesn't make me a bird, that doesn't allow me to fly.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Autism is a common feature of people who've really drunk the trans koolaid, and it shows in their approach to body parts and processes.

They can't think beyond their own mechanical analogies, so they think that human bodies are like computers where you can plug and play different components, the platform is all designed to run either the "male" or "female" solution, so just configure the components until you get the build you're most comfortable with.

So they see estrogen and testosterone as two different fuels, and act like their genitals and tiddies (you know, the parts surgeons have gotten experienced at hacking up) are the components that the fuel is working to run, as well as some nebulous personality stereotyping attributed to the transformative effect of this new fuel on the brain. They're categorically opposed to thinking about the impact of sex hormones as being anything other than allowing development of stereotypes. Hormones helping you mature and grow up? No, they just make you act like a bimbo or a manly man, anything else is TERF propaganda.

 

[rocknrollmartian]

It certainly doesn't help that there are self-serving "gender clinic" MDs spewing this bullshit:

"Dr. Deanna Adkins stated, 'From a medical perspective, the appropriate determinant of sex is gender identity.' Adkins is a professor at Duke University School of Medicine and the director of the Duke Center for Child and Adolescent Gender Care (which opened in 2015).

"Adkins argues that gender identity is not only the preferred basis for determining sex, but 'the only medically supported determinant of sex.' Every other method is bad science, she claims: 'It is counter to medical science to use chromosomes, hormones, internal reproductive organs, external genitalia, or secondary sex characteristics to override gender identity for purposes of classifying someone as male or female.'"

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Thousands of years of science, handwaved away by someone saying feelings override it because they said so.

 

[Spastic Colon]

It certainly doesn't help that there are self-serving "gender clinic" MDs spewing this bullshit:

"Dr. Deanna Adkins stated, 'From a medical perspective, the appropriate determinant of sex is gender identity.' Adkins is a professor at Duke University School of Medicine and the director of the Duke Center for Child and Adolescent Gender Care (which opened in 2015).

"Adkins argues that gender identity is not only the preferred basis for determining sex, but 'the only medically supported determinant of sex.' Every other method is bad science, she claims: 'It is counter to medical science to use chromosomes, hormones, internal reproductive organs, external genitalia, or secondary sex characteristics to override gender identity for purposes of classifying someone as male or female.'"

I lost every ounce of respect I had for Duke right there. What's next? Are they going to teach a course on Flat Earth?

 

[rocknrollmartian]

I lost every ounce of respect I had for Duke right there. What's next? Are they going to teach a course on Flat Earth?

I've watched a few very brief videos featuring Dr. Adkins. She seems spacey and not all there. I'm so glad she's destroying children's lives and validating Munchie by proxy parents with her toxic pseudoscience.

But you know, this is a real wakeup call for me. I'm now more skeptical of doctors and their agendas than ever.

 

[sperginity]

Again, wouldn't the estrogen make him go through female puberty? Wouldn't that mean at the very least he isn't prepubescent?

I must be autistic and missing something here

puberty is the process of developing reproductive capacity, as in fertility. that is what you are missing. There is only one hormonal pathway for each type of genitalia. Being given the wrong hormones for your biological sex is the opposite of puberty, because it stops a person from developing the capacity for reproduction, it is sterilization.

Anyway...

The James Younger case might get national scrutiny soon, people are outraged and it is trending on twitter, people are agitating for texas to ban puberty blocking for gender dysphoric people. I am sure jazz and his mom will have a lot to say about that shit if it gets on their radar, which will be hilarious since he has a botched franken vag and no sex drive.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

People just assume all doctors are good because they're educated.

Does anyone in their right mind believes a cosmetic surgery doctor is acting ethically when she or he accepts a person going through their fifth nose change just because they're paid to do so?

How is that only "gender" doctors act like this? Go ask another type of doctor and see how they tell you to fuck yourself.

 

[Spastic Colon]

People just assume all doctors are good because they're educated.

Does anyone in their right mind believes a cosmetic surgery doctor is acting ethically when she or he accepts a person going through their fifth nose change just because they're paid to do so?

How is that only "gender" doctors act like this? Go ask another type of doctor and see how they tell you to fuck yourself.

The fault for SRS lies completely on these medical professionals. Starting with psychiatrists who allowed gender dysphoria to be reclassified so it is no longer a mental illness. Then the whole self-ID thing being allowed and passing out hormones like candy to unstable and/or very young people and letting kids suppress puberty. Finally, experimenting on human patients to see if you could create genitals through surgical techniques. All of that only happened because a medical professional said "yes". And they all said "yes" because they feared being called "transphobic". If they had just done their jobs and followed the "do no harm" oath, none of this would be happening right now.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

The fault for SRS lies completely on these medical professionals. Starting with psychiatrists who allowed gender dysphoria to be reclassified so it is no longer a mental illness. Then the whole self-ID thing being allowed and passing out hormones like candy to unstable and/or very young people and letting kids suppress puberty. Finally, experimenting on human patients to see if you could create genitals through surgical techniques. All of that only happened because a medical professional said "yes". And they all said "yes" because they feared being called "transphobic". If they had just done their jobs and followed the "do no harm" oath, none of this would be happening right now.

Remember, Pfitzer wants to bring out a new drug for gout, they have to do through years of clinical trials and meet exacting standards before they even have a shot at being allowed to market.

Chopping up kids' genetalia? [Critical Drinker]Naah, it'll be fine.[/Critical Drinker]

 

[Tasty Tatty]

The fault for SRS lies completely on these medical professionals. Starting with psychiatrists who allowed gender dysphoria to be reclassified so it is no longer a mental illness. Then the whole self-ID thing being allowed and passing out hormones like candy to unstable and/or very young people and letting kids suppress puberty. Finally, experimenting on human patients to see if you could create genitals through surgical techniques. All of that only happened because a medical professional said "yes". And they all said "yes" because they feared being called "transphobic". If they had just done their jobs and followed the "do no harm" oath, none of this would be happening right now.

There is a lot to be blamed on psychiatry and psychology today too. Not just with the specific issue of transgenderism, but overall. Their approach to everything is "yes, just do that". They've made people believe that not having any boundaries is good and okay because "that's how I am".

"Hey, doctor, I feel the urge to sleep with a bunch of guys every day, consume cocaine, and dancing naked on my roof every night..."

"That's perfectly normal, sweetie, you just be yourself and the rest are haters!".

We've gone from "no, sex before marriage doesn't make you a whore" to "flaunting your vagina to the public is brave and stunning".

 

[GenociderSyo]

The fault for SRS lies completely on these medical professionals. Starting with psychiatrists who allowed gender dysphoria to be reclassified so it is no longer a mental illness. Then the whole self-ID thing being allowed and passing out hormones like candy to unstable and/or very young people and letting kids suppress puberty. Finally, experimenting on human patients to see if you could create genitals through surgical techniques. All of that only happened because a medical professional said "yes". And they all said "yes" because they feared being called "transphobic". If they had just done their jobs and followed the "do no harm" oath, none of this would be happening right now.

Gender Dysphoria is still a diagnosible mental illness. It's just that these news psychiatrists are ignoring that.

There is also a specifier for Post-Transition Gender Dysphoria.

The prevalence rates for true Gender Dysphoria are: 0.005% to 0.014% for females and 0.002% to 0.003% for males.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

It certainly doesn't help that there are self-serving "gender clinic" MDs spewing this bullshit:

"Dr. Deanna Adkins stated, 'From a medical perspective, the appropriate determinant of sex is gender identity.' Adkins is a professor at Duke University School of Medicine and the director of the Duke Center for Child and Adolescent Gender Care (which opened in 2015).

"Adkins argues that gender identity is not only the preferred basis for determining sex, but 'the only medically supported determinant of sex.' Every other method is bad science, she claims: 'It is counter to medical science to use chromosomes, hormones, internal reproductive organs, external genitalia, or secondary sex characteristics to override gender identity for purposes of classifying someone as male or female.'"

Since I can't give her a dumb rating I give it to you.

And I wish I could give a billion more. It's so fucking batshit insane. This woman belongs into an asylum and deserves to be slapped for spewing this inane troonshit.

 

[CheezzyMach]

The fault for SRS lies completely on these medical professionals. Starting with psychiatrists who allowed gender dysphoria to be reclassified so it is no longer a mental illness. Then the whole self-ID thing being allowed and passing out hormones like candy to unstable and/or very young people and letting kids suppress puberty. Finally, experimenting on human patients to see if you could create genitals through surgical techniques. All of that only happened because a medical professional said "yes". And they all said "yes" because they feared being called "transphobic". If they had just done their jobs and followed the "do no harm" oath, none of this would be happening right now.

Medical "professionals" have ALWAYS backed bad science when it's en vogue. Lobotomies are the go to example but there was also the repressed memories shit that went on in the 1990s.

If History repeats SRS will fall out of favor in the mid-late 2020s but won't be fully discredited for another decade or two.

 

[sperginity]

The James Younger case might get national scrutiny soon, people are outraged and it is trending on twitter, people are agitating for texas to ban puberty blocking for gender dysphoric people. I am sure jazz and his mom will have a lot to say about that shit if it gets on their radar, which will be hilarious since he has a botched franken vag and no sex drive.

lol this is exactly what is happening, state senators are writing a bill to block the kind of medicine jazz was subjected to & the governor is looking into the case. It got covered in the NY post, will probably be more of a national news story tomorrow when the judge officially hands down her ruling. Jeannette is going to feel the sting of national scrutiny. I wonder if TLC will care?

 

[Muttnik]

Even if the James Younger case opens the gateway for greater criticism and scrutiny on "trans children", I doubt Jazz and his PR team (aka Jeanette) will buckle and admit any harm in it. Any time any form of skepticism is lobbed at Jazz getting puberty blockers and hormones at such a young age, everything falls apart as Jazz or his mom will start shrieking about how vital this poison is and how Jazz needed it in order to embrace girlhood.