Morgane Oger / Ronan Oger - defunded a rape crisis shelter, JY frenemy, sues ppl for misgendering, stalks meghan murphy, EX vp of new dem party that lost 3+ elections


I love watching this slug sliming around trying to cope with Yaniv completely wrecking his shitty narrative.

Remember that shit when people said self-identifying troons would abuse it to harass real women? That shit that you said would never happen that just happened?

You're not going to get everyone to forget it by slithering around like a snake.
 

That pressure Oger is feeling is the Sword of damocles hanging over his head, placed there by his own hand.

He has to defend Yaniv - to denounce him, is to to agree with TERFs that their holy mantra of TWAW is open to abuse by people with nefarious agendas.

But by defending Yaniv, he is risking the ire of the rest of the TWAW community because they, by their usual twisted logic, have decided that Yaniv (like Karen White, Jacinta Brooks, etc.) has ‘gamed the system’, and is not truetrans.
The community is desperate to denounce Yaniv because now all the TURFs are rightly reeee’ing ‘told you!‘ and it’s making the normies take notice.

And of course, if the community can withdraw your membership at any time, Oger is now on thin ice. Best place for him.
 
"vile circus" - Yeah, that definitely had nothing to do with Yaniv, Morgane. That despicable Devyn Cousineau who lined your pockets forgot her manners and JCCF wrung 16 complaints out of poor little Jessica and then tweeted about them incessantly and tried to intimidate respondents into settling and tweeted some more and threatened to kill herself over and over and lied during the hearings and pulled her crazy mother in to babble and lie and tried to get attendees thrown out and tweeted some more and said she had two strokes right there and threatened people with pepper spray and smirked over the Christmas prezzie that was going to be presented and tweeted some more and...

Edit: Muh readings was wrong.
 
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Ugh and Morganes latest tweet is using this ruling to back up her stance on the the Rape Crisis Shelter:

It also says, and this is important, that when there is no material difference in the skills and work that is done, for example waxing an arm or providing shelter, a refusal to provide service would be a breach or the code.

Failing to see the consent/boundary issue that she is trying to bully through.
lol I guess he couldn't resist trying to make the HRT rulings "the law!!!!11" again
:story: :story: :story: :story: Is oger is saying Yaniv should file human rights complaints against the people that made a "vile circus" of their original suit? It sure fucking seems like it! Is there anything the tribunal can't solve?

Where the fuck did this nerd get the idea that he should be in politics? Bringing up the yaniv case after it has been concluded, in order to defend yaniv, is such a bad move that it didn't occur to me as a possibility. Oger is mad that a virtuous trans woman of color didn't file those waxing lawsuits & win (so he could tell everyone that the law in canada says his penis is biologically female).
 
You'll never guess who Yaniv hurt the most .... Morgane Oger and other professional-victim troon grifters, of course. It must be true if it's in the Toronto Star.

Morgane Oger, a Vancouver trans-rights activist, said she received a torrent of hate online from people who lumped her in with trans woman Jessica Yaniv, whose controversial waxing case was dismissed by B.C.'s human rights tribunal this week.

“Meanwhile, trans people have virtually no legal protections against online hate... People harassed me over Yaniv’s behaviour just because I am also transgender.
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VANCOUVER—In recent months, Morgane Oger has received a torrent of online hate — more than typical — lumping her in with trans woman Jessica Yaniv, whose controversial waxing case was dismissed by B.C.’s human rights tribunal this week.

Social media users accused the transgender rights advocate of being part of a “cult” of transgender “scam artists” along with Yaniv, and viciously attacked Oger’s physical appearance.

The flood of negativity around Jessica Yaniv’s case has saddened veteran Vancouver trans rights activists.

None of the people who commented for this story were involved in the court case, but all noted spikes in online hate against trans people since the Yaniv case came to public attention.

Yaniv had filed a complaint with the human rights tribunal against seven women and companies in the Vancouver area that refused to wax the hair from her male genitals, while others wouldn’t wax her arms or legs. She demanded a total of $500,000 in costs.

On Tuesday, the tribunal ruled that Yaniv tried to use the complaint as a “weapon to extort or bully another person” into a financial settlement and ordered that she pay $6,000 to those she accused.

Tribunal member Devyn Cousineau said Yaniv had a pattern of filing human rights complaints that target small businesses for personal financial gain and to punish certain ethnic groups that she perceives as hostile to the rights of LGBTQ people.

Now, Oger and other advocates worry the ruling could embolden transphobia, while the public loses sight of how marginalized the community still is in Vancouver.

“I think some people will misunderstand and say the ruling means they’re allowed to discriminate,” Oger said.

Morgane Oger, a Vancouver trans-rights activist, said she received a torrent of hate online from people who lumped her in with trans woman Jessica Yaniv, whose controversial waxing case was dismissed by B.C.'s human rights tribunal this week.

“Meanwhile, trans people have virtually no legal protections against online hate... People harassed me over Yaniv’s behaviour just because I am also transgender.”

The flood of negativity has saddened veteran Vancouver trans rights activist Tami Starlight, who says that people are quick to attack trans people as a group.

“The (waxing case) has been massively negative. Things have gotten worse all of a sudden,” Starlight said, noting an uptick she’s observed in transphobic remarks, including public speeches from far-right figures who espouse hateful beliefs.

Anytime there’s a marginalized group, there’s a tendency to lump everybody together, said Simon Fraser University sociologist Ann Travers.

“This happens to people of colour, too. They’re not allowed to be imperfect. It’s an expectation that you have to be absolutely perfect because inclusion is riding on your shoulders. That’s unbelievably unfair.

“How oppression works is when you reduce people to a commonality,” Travers told Star Vancouver.

Cousineau had said evidence presented at a tribunal hearing shows there is a difference in waxing different types of genitals and because it’s an intimate procedure, service providers must agree to provide the service.

Yaniv could not be reached for comment.

Vancouver lawyer Pat Shannon thinks it was unnecessary for the tribunal to discuss genitalia in detail, since establishing that Yaniv acted in bad faith would have been enough to dismiss her complaint.

“For a lot of trans people, genitals are not a big part of whether they think they’re a man or a woman and for it to be a crux of the decision — it’s unsettling,” said Shannon, who is non-binary.

Vancouver lawyer Pat Shannon warned the B.C. human rights tribunal's ruling on the Yaniv complaint could pave the way for future court cases that might draw a line between trans people who have had gender reassignment surgery and those who have not.

Vancouver lawyer Pat Shannon warned the B.C. human rights tribunal's ruling on the Yaniv complaint could pave the way for future court cases that might draw a line between trans people who have had gender reassignment surgery and those who have not.

Shannon warned the decision could pave the way for future court cases that might draw a line between trans people who have had gender reassignment surgery and those who have not.

Trans advocates in the city are now working to organize public education events to highlight urgent human rights issues faced by their community. Several events will take place next month around the Transgender Day of Remembrance on November 20.

Every year, on average, 500 Canadian youth aged 10-24 die by suicide, according to Statistics Canada.

LGBTQ youth are generally four times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers, according to the Massachusetts Department of Education.

Travers says support for trans Canadians needs to start with adults avoiding imposing restrictive messages about gender on all children and youth. This would combat marginalization of sexual minorities and allow children and youth room to learn that gender “isn’t about genitals.”

On a positive note, Shannon says there are more and more pro-bono legal services in Vancouver available to help LGBTQ people, such as helping people to change their legal names.

Meanwhile, in more socially conservative parts of Canada, the existence of support services like gay-straight alliances at schools are subject to heated debate among politicians.
 
You'll never guess who Yaniv hurt the most .... Morgane Oger and other professional-victim troon grifters, of course. It must be true if it's in the Toronto Star.


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VANCOUVER—In recent months, Morgane Oger has received a torrent of online hate — more than typical — lumping her in with trans woman Jessica Yaniv, whose controversial waxing case was dismissed by B.C.’s human rights tribunal this week.

Social media users accused the transgender rights advocate of being part of a “cult” of transgender “scam artists” along with Yaniv, and viciously attacked Oger’s physical appearance.

The flood of negativity around Jessica Yaniv’s case has saddened veteran Vancouver trans rights activists.

None of the people who commented for this story were involved in the court case, but all noted spikes in online hate against trans people since the Yaniv case came to public attention.

Yaniv had filed a complaint with the human rights tribunal against seven women and companies in the Vancouver area that refused to wax the hair from her male genitals, while others wouldn’t wax her arms or legs. She demanded a total of $500,000 in costs.

On Tuesday, the tribunal ruled that Yaniv tried to use the complaint as a “weapon to extort or bully another person” into a financial settlement and ordered that she pay $6,000 to those she accused.

Tribunal member Devyn Cousineau said Yaniv had a pattern of filing human rights complaints that target small businesses for personal financial gain and to punish certain ethnic groups that she perceives as hostile to the rights of LGBTQ people.

Now, Oger and other advocates worry the ruling could embolden transphobia, while the public loses sight of how marginalized the community still is in Vancouver.

“I think some people will misunderstand and say the ruling means they’re allowed to discriminate,” Oger said.

Morgane Oger, a Vancouver trans-rights activist, said she received a torrent of hate online from people who lumped her in with trans woman Jessica Yaniv, whose controversial waxing case was dismissed by B.C.'s human rights tribunal this week.

“Meanwhile, trans people have virtually no legal protections against online hate... People harassed me over Yaniv’s behaviour just because I am also transgender.”

The flood of negativity has saddened veteran Vancouver trans rights activist Tami Starlight, who says that people are quick to attack trans people as a group.

“The (waxing case) has been massively negative. Things have gotten worse all of a sudden,” Starlight said, noting an uptick she’s observed in transphobic remarks, including public speeches from far-right figures who espouse hateful beliefs.

Anytime there’s a marginalized group, there’s a tendency to lump everybody together, said Simon Fraser University sociologist Ann Travers.

“This happens to people of colour, too. They’re not allowed to be imperfect. It’s an expectation that you have to be absolutely perfect because inclusion is riding on your shoulders. That’s unbelievably unfair.

“How oppression works is when you reduce people to a commonality,” Travers told Star Vancouver.

Cousineau had said evidence presented at a tribunal hearing shows there is a difference in waxing different types of genitals and because it’s an intimate procedure, service providers must agree to provide the service.

Yaniv could not be reached for comment.

Vancouver lawyer Pat Shannon thinks it was unnecessary for the tribunal to discuss genitalia in detail, since establishing that Yaniv acted in bad faith would have been enough to dismiss her complaint.

“For a lot of trans people, genitals are not a big part of whether they think they’re a man or a woman and for it to be a crux of the decision — it’s unsettling,” said Shannon, who is non-binary.

Vancouver lawyer Pat Shannon warned the B.C. human rights tribunal's ruling on the Yaniv complaint could pave the way for future court cases that might draw a line between trans people who have had gender reassignment surgery and those who have not.

Vancouver lawyer Pat Shannon warned the B.C. human rights tribunal's ruling on the Yaniv complaint could pave the way for future court cases that might draw a line between trans people who have had gender reassignment surgery and those who have not.

Shannon warned the decision could pave the way for future court cases that might draw a line between trans people who have had gender reassignment surgery and those who have not.

Trans advocates in the city are now working to organize public education events to highlight urgent human rights issues faced by their community. Several events will take place next month around the Transgender Day of Remembrance on November 20.

Every year, on average, 500 Canadian youth aged 10-24 die by suicide, according to Statistics Canada.

LGBTQ youth are generally four times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers, according to the Massachusetts Department of Education.

Travers says support for trans Canadians needs to start with adults avoiding imposing restrictive messages about gender on all children and youth. This would combat marginalization of sexual minorities and allow children and youth room to learn that gender “isn’t about genitals.”

On a positive note, Shannon says there are more and more pro-bono legal services in Vancouver available to help LGBTQ people, such as helping people to change their legal names.

Meanwhile, in more socially conservative parts of Canada, the existence of support services like gay-straight alliances at schools are subject to heated debate among politicians.

More tranny tears, crying that it's somehow terrible that they were viciously persecuted just because they backed a racist child molester who tried to use the courts to rape poor immigrant women.

They're so totally innocent, they did nothing wrong.
 
The one that kills me is the non binary person who said that it was a shame that they focused on the genitals so much in making this decision. Did this person not know that the entire case was about refusing to wax male genitals? The news shouldn't even quote somebody that stupid for an article. How can you have an opinion about a case when you don't even know the facts of it?
 
You'll never guess who Yaniv hurt the most .... Morgane Oger and other professional-victim troon grifters, of course. It must be true if it's in the Toronto Star.


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VANCOUVER—In recent months, Morgane Oger has received a torrent of online hate — more than typical — lumping her in with trans woman Jessica Yaniv, whose controversial waxing case was dismissed by B.C.’s human rights tribunal this week.

Social media users accused the transgender rights advocate of being part of a “cult” of transgender “scam artists” along with Yaniv, and viciously attacked Oger’s physical appearance.

The flood of negativity around Jessica Yaniv’s case has saddened veteran Vancouver trans rights activists.

None of the people who commented for this story were involved in the court case, but all noted spikes in online hate against trans people since the Yaniv case came to public attention.

Yaniv had filed a complaint with the human rights tribunal against seven women and companies in the Vancouver area that refused to wax the hair from her male genitals, while others wouldn’t wax her arms or legs. She demanded a total of $500,000 in costs.

On Tuesday, the tribunal ruled that Yaniv tried to use the complaint as a “weapon to extort or bully another person” into a financial settlement and ordered that she pay $6,000 to those she accused.

Tribunal member Devyn Cousineau said Yaniv had a pattern of filing human rights complaints that target small businesses for personal financial gain and to punish certain ethnic groups that she perceives as hostile to the rights of LGBTQ people.

Now, Oger and other advocates worry the ruling could embolden transphobia, while the public loses sight of how marginalized the community still is in Vancouver.

“I think some people will misunderstand and say the ruling means they’re allowed to discriminate,” Oger said.

Morgane Oger, a Vancouver trans-rights activist, said she received a torrent of hate online from people who lumped her in with trans woman Jessica Yaniv, whose controversial waxing case was dismissed by B.C.'s human rights tribunal this week.

“Meanwhile, trans people have virtually no legal protections against online hate... People harassed me over Yaniv’s behaviour just because I am also transgender.”

The flood of negativity has saddened veteran Vancouver trans rights activist Tami Starlight, who says that people are quick to attack trans people as a group.

“The (waxing case) has been massively negative. Things have gotten worse all of a sudden,” Starlight said, noting an uptick she’s observed in transphobic remarks, including public speeches from far-right figures who espouse hateful beliefs.

Anytime there’s a marginalized group, there’s a tendency to lump everybody together, said Simon Fraser University sociologist Ann Travers.

“This happens to people of colour, too. They’re not allowed to be imperfect. It’s an expectation that you have to be absolutely perfect because inclusion is riding on your shoulders. That’s unbelievably unfair.

“How oppression works is when you reduce people to a commonality,” Travers told Star Vancouver.

Cousineau had said evidence presented at a tribunal hearing shows there is a difference in waxing different types of genitals and because it’s an intimate procedure, service providers must agree to provide the service.

Yaniv could not be reached for comment.

Vancouver lawyer Pat Shannon thinks it was unnecessary for the tribunal to discuss genitalia in detail, since establishing that Yaniv acted in bad faith would have been enough to dismiss her complaint.

“For a lot of trans people, genitals are not a big part of whether they think they’re a man or a woman and for it to be a crux of the decision — it’s unsettling,” said Shannon, who is non-binary.

Vancouver lawyer Pat Shannon warned the B.C. human rights tribunal's ruling on the Yaniv complaint could pave the way for future court cases that might draw a line between trans people who have had gender reassignment surgery and those who have not.

Vancouver lawyer Pat Shannon warned the B.C. human rights tribunal's ruling on the Yaniv complaint could pave the way for future court cases that might draw a line between trans people who have had gender reassignment surgery and those who have not.

Shannon warned the decision could pave the way for future court cases that might draw a line between trans people who have had gender reassignment surgery and those who have not.

Trans advocates in the city are now working to organize public education events to highlight urgent human rights issues faced by their community. Several events will take place next month around the Transgender Day of Remembrance on November 20.

Every year, on average, 500 Canadian youth aged 10-24 die by suicide, according to Statistics Canada.

LGBTQ youth are generally four times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers, according to the Massachusetts Department of Education.

Travers says support for trans Canadians needs to start with adults avoiding imposing restrictive messages about gender on all children and youth. This would combat marginalization of sexual minorities and allow children and youth room to learn that gender “isn’t about genitals.”

On a positive note, Shannon says there are more and more pro-bono legal services in Vancouver available to help LGBTQ people, such as helping people to change their legal names.

Meanwhile, in more socially conservative parts of Canada, the existence of support services like gay-straight alliances at schools are subject to heated debate among politicians.
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And trying to do so is taking a page right out of the Nazi handbook: Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth. I hope that works out as well for the troons as it did the Nazis.
Interestingly, you will find that when Mr. Hitler and Mr. Goebbels were discussing the 'big lie', they were referring to the tactics of their opponents (who included, notably, the modern inventors of transgenderism). One would hope Yaniv's potential victims will continue to be more successful in refuting the emotional propaganda of self-actualization with the cold logic of science.

It's been bugging me for awhile who Ogre reminds me of - he looks like Jeff Goldblum in drag.
There's a certain resemblance there, but that's a rather mean thing to say about Mr. Goldblum, isn't it?
 
Where the fuck did this nerd get the idea that he should be in politics? Bringing up the yaniv case after it has been concluded, in order to defend yaniv, is such a bad move that it didn't occur to me as a possibility. Oger is mad that a virtuous trans woman of color didn't file those waxing lawsuits & win (so he could tell everyone that the law in canada says his penis is biologically female).

I think Oger realises, that at the moment the only way the public will give him any attention, is when he talks about Yaniv.
 
I think Oger realises, that at the moment the only way the public will give him any attention, is when he talks about Yaniv.

Good observation. If true, it also explains why he keeps tweeting and talking to the media about Yaniv when one would think it would be smarter to let the uproar against Yaniv die a natural death. Oger is using the public's interest in the Yaniv case to try to sneak in some of his preferred spin. He is insisting people "hunted down" Yaniv because they hate him for being trans, when of course people hate Yaniv because he is a degenerate pedophile who has been snapping photos of himself in women's restrooms and changing rooms, and stalking teen girls online with all kinds of sick talk about period blood and inserting tampons and using pads to cum into.

Not to mention people hate Yaniv because he is gaming Canada's self identification law, which declares Yaniv legally a woman as long as he self-identifies as a woman. This is likely the reality Oger is trying to deflect the public away from. Oger wants this law to stand and the public to remain largely clueless regarding how dangerously and easily exploitable it is. If the mentally ill idiot fool that is Jonathan Yaniv can exploit the self identification law and get away with it to an extent, a smarter, saner, craftier criminal could successfully exploit the law to the max. But Oger doesn't want the public to realize that's possible and probably right around the corner, so he is deflecting with cries of poor troons suffering hatred from the vile mob.

Morgane Oger insists the JCCF is responsible for the recent HRT "vile circus," but when anyone hears the words "vile circus" they immediately think of Yaniv, not the JCCF, who came to the rescue of those poor immigrant women Yaniv unfairly and deliberately targeted.
 
Good observation. If true, it also explains why he keeps tweeting and talking to the media about Yaniv when one would think it would be smarter to let the uproar against Yaniv die a natural death. Oger is using the public's interest in the Yaniv case to try to sneak in some of his preferred spin. He is insisting people "hunted down" Yaniv because they hate him for being trans, when of course people hate Yaniv because he is a degenerate pedophile who has been snapping photos of himself in women's restrooms and changing rooms, and stalking teen girls online with all kinds of sick talk about period blood and inserting tampons and using pads to cum into.

Not to mention people hate Yaniv because he is gaming Canada's self identification law, which declares Yaniv legally a woman as long as he self-identifies as a woman. This is likely the reality Oger is trying to deflect the public away from. Oger wants this law to stand and the public to remain largely clueless regarding how dangerously and easily exploitable it is. If the mentally ill idiot fool that is Jonathan Yaniv can exploit the self identification law and get away with it to an extent, a smarter, saner, craftier criminal could successfully exploit the law to the max. But Oger doesn't want the public to realize that's possible and probably right around the corner, so he is deflecting with cries of poor troons suffering hatred from the vile mob.

Morgane Oger insists the JCCF is responsible for the recent HRT "vile circus," but when anyone hears the words "vile circus" they immediately think of Yaniv, not the JCCF, who came to the rescue of those poor immigrant women Yaniv unfairly and deliberately targeted.
Yaniv and Oger two cheeks of the same arse.
 
He is insisting people "hunted down" Yaniv because they hate him for being trans, when of course people hate Yaniv because he is a degenerate pedophile who has been snapping photos of himself in women's restrooms and changing rooms, and stalking teen girls online with all kinds of sick talk about period blood and inserting tampons and using pads to cum into.

The only reason anyone even knows who this freak is outside his neighborhood is he incessantly jumps up and down screaming for attention, like troons do. If he'd just scooted around town being an ugly freak child molester, nobody would have noticed him outside his own neighborhood and maybe the cops.
 
Heads up, I am mad on the internet.
I want to know about if Morgane Ogre has ever actually read the laws re: unfair discrimination she keeps threatening other people with.

Unfair discrimination relates to things like being denied access to housing, services (thank fuck not the services JY was after), employment, joining associations etc on the basis of gender identity.

Crimes are promoting genocide, promoting hatred. For the life of me I cannot see how misgendering could fall under either of those, even though to be 100% fair there are instances where doing that could be dickish.

As for lying and saying she was one of the first to speak out against JY, it takes a lot of balls (harhar) to do that when all the proof she defended the shit out of her is all here and on her Twitter.

Anyway, TL;DR: Morgane Over irritates the literal crap out of me.
 
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