Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Antipathy]

Doomcock pointed it out in one of his current videos, she's obviously not swinging for Kylo's body, she's swinging for his lightsabre.
For all that broohaha during the filming of TLJ about her being such an amazing fighter that so quickly became capable with a sword, she really fucking sucks at fencing.
She can wave around a stick, but whatever the fuck it is she's doing doesn't look like she knows what the hell she's supposed to do.

It really blows my mind, it's a Star Wars trilogy and we have only seen like maybe 1 good lightsabre duel and... dunno... 1 halfway decent space battle... if even that.
We don't need them at a 5 minute interval, but ffs, TLJ has not a single Lightsabre duel and only one space battle (which sucked).


With streaming services splintering into smaller and smaller islands of licenses, this is all the more reason to go back to the old fashioned habit of just buying the DVDs you actually want to watch and not pay out the ass for 50 streaming services that all just carry fragmented libraries.

Seriously, as long as I physically own a copy of a movie, I don't have to deal with some asshole like Disney buying the rights to a movie I used to watch on Netflix and then having that movie get whisked away to another streaming platform once the license is bought by someone else.

Given how this process makes it all the more expensive to retain access to ever shrinking libraries, just going "Fuck this shit, I don't need a subscription to Netflix and get a free copy of Bird Box, when I can buy the DVDs of the movies I wanna see just like that."


That last part is what they did with Phasma and the fact I have to remind you of that shows how effective that worked, I guess.

also:

Sorry to say this, but both these ideas would just be a retread of Vader.


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I think making Kylo Ren a Vadr fanboy was almost a smart idea, but the way they handled it was bad.
Obviously, the better choice would have been to not have a poor man's Vader in the first place, but having discount Vader might have worked, still, even if they quickly show his face.

They could have made Kylo a character that makes the audience feel absolutely uneasy whenever he's on screen if they had made him unhinged and unpredictable in a way where you simply fear that he's about to do something really terrible at any moment. The moment he's captured a protagonist and just as much as talks with them, you should be on the edge of your seat, fearing that he's about to do something really fucked up.
Think Captain Vidal from Pan's Labyrinth, he's always calm and collected, but the way how he hurts and kills people with utter disregard is absolutely terrifying.

Problem is: how could that fit into an SW movie? Disney would never allow it. Still, even the "Darth Columbine"-approach could have worked if TLJ hadn't shit the bed and gave us Tweedle-Dip and Tweedle-Shit instead of expanding on Hux' and Kylo's rivalry. They could have given us way more nuanced and interesting villains, that actually know what they do and are lethally effective at it.

It's a Disney movie meant for soyboy-mouthbreathers and porg fanatics, so we don't get nuanced and interesting, we get Captain Planet-tier villains, that fail to intimidate anyone, since they are always treated as a joke. Seriously, is there just _one_ scene of Hux not being treated as a clown?

Fuck it, I can take that idea and the other one that @The handsome tard made, slap them together, and here's our new antagonist: A twisted, near bipolar double character, Ben Solo and Kylo Ren, and here's how it goes.
With the mask off, Solo is a weird, quiet, but ultimately heroic character working with Luke to control his power, although he seems to be lagging behind in a lot of ways. He's always mopey and wondering how things will go wrong.
When he's wearing the mask, he's Darth Terogatur. Torturer, murderer, and horrifying vigilante who uses the Dark side as a cudgel to kill and brutalize those who considers a threat to Galactic stability. We can even have the New Republic be large, no First Order needed. He roots out anything and everything he considers evil, and will butcher the innocent to punish the guilty.

Subtle hints to him being one and the same would be spread with his interactions with Luke, often wondering whether or not the horrible things "Terogatur" does are justified, and while Luke tells his nephew that there's good in everyone, his nephew will counter by saying something like "what of everyone on the Death Star? Was there good in them?" or "You never redeemed Palpatine," or something like that. This would leave Luke at an impasse, and flesh out both characters. Terogatur would say things along the lines of "The Galaxy will only obey when I make it" to the people hunting him, or "The ends justify the means."

At the end of the trilogy, he's either come to terms with the imperfection of humanity and renounced the Dark Side, realizing what he was becoming (possibly after looking at the remains of Vader/a lecturing from Ghost Vader/Ghost Anakin), or becoming a tragic antagonist who either kills himself in a twisted sense of justice, or die on the blade of someone trying to help.

The incompetence of Disney is astounding. We three autists on some message board just made a more compelling antagonist than they could, and they spent millions of dollars on their script. We charged nothing.

 

[Miller]

I'm only curious in the sense I want to see how the Rat would fuck up and demolish a series that already had some impressive piles of shit get made.

It will be like the Sequel Trilogy. People in the access media will rejoice at the idea of the Alien franchise taken away from Ridley Scott's hands then some (like Mike from RLM) will push for the new movies to be directed by Bloomkamp the one-trick pony.

Reminder, this was the main motive for the Fox buyout.
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I know. I just hope that Victoria Alonso becomes the new head of the MCU so she can finally rename the X-Men into "X-People". All the MCU fanboys (but anti-Disney) crying like Eric Butts about the X-Men "finally" in the MCU while ignoring that Disney now owns the entire FOX catalog.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

I know. I just hope that Victoria Alonso becomes the new head of the MCU so she can finally rename the X-Men into "X-People". All the MCU fanboys (but anti-Disney) crying like Eric Butts about the X-Men "finally" in the MCU while ignoring that Disney now owns the entire FOX catalog.

Eric Butts himself would be worshipping Rupert Murdoch right now for making this possible.

 

[Marissa Moira]

The Fox Properties being vaulted has more to do with them not knowing what to do yet. Alien is a property that Disney has wanted since Eisner was in charge, the franchise even had a segment on the Great Movie Ride. Avatar is another series they wanted from fox and had to get special rights to build the theme park in Animal Kingdom. But the main draw was X-Men since that's the big shit Marvel property.

Disney hasn't had time to properly make a plan for the future of the franchises, they're still in legal hell sorting the fox deal out. If you buy out a large company it takes a lo0ng long long ass time to sort everything out after the buyout is done. Right now they still can't make money off the deal, other people need to get paid before them. Disney has made deals with large studios before like MGM and did get fucked over in the past, so the buyout has to be treated with care or else they'll have to renegg stuff that they had already dumped money into to develop.

So yes it makes sense that they would forbid showings right now, the Fox stuff could go to D+ or they could go elsewhere. Nobody really knows yet and they probably have competing roadmaps on what would be most profitable.

 

[XYZpdq]

Alien is a property that Disney has wanted since Eisner was in charge, the franchise even had a segment on the Great Movie Ride.

I recall hearing that Alien Encounter was probably an Alien licensed attraction that they filed the serial numbers off of when the deal didn't go through cheap enough.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I recall hearing that Alien Encounter was probably an Alien licensed attraction that they filed the serial numbers off of when the deal didn't go through cheap enough.

Yeah that's true the Wayland W logo could originally be found in some prop engravings IIRC.

 

[Reverend]

Reminder, this was the main motive for the Fox buyout.
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I'll go with 80% of the Fox buyout was to get the xmen, the rest was to finally get Episode 4 back under one roof.

 

[The handsome tard]

Fuck it, I can take that idea and the other one that @The handsome tard made, slap them together, and here's our new antagonist: A twisted, near bipolar double character, Ben Solo and Kylo Ren, and here's how it goes.
With the mask off, Solo is a weird, quiet, but ultimately heroic character working with Luke to control his power, although he seems to be lagging behind in a lot of ways. He's always mopey and wondering how things will go wrong.
When he's wearing the mask, he's Darth Terogatur. Torturer, murderer, and horrifying vigilante who uses the Dark side as a cudgel to kill and brutalize those who considers a threat to Galactic stability. We can even have the New Republic be large, no First Order needed. He roots out anything and everything he considers evil, and will butcher the innocent to punish the guilty.

Subtle hints to him being one and the same would be spread with his interactions with Luke, often wondering whether or not the horrible things "Terogatur" does are justified, and while Luke tells his nephew that there's good in everyone, his nephew will counter by saying something like "what of everyone on the Death Star? Was there good in them?" or "You never redeemed Palpatine," or something like that. This would leave Luke at an impasse, and flesh out both characters. Terogatur would say things along the lines of "The Galaxy will only obey when I make it" to the people hunting him, or "The ends justify the means."

At the end of the trilogy, he's either come to terms with the imperfection of humanity and renounced the Dark Side, realizing what he was becoming (possibly after looking at the remains of Vader/a lecturing from Ghost Vader/Ghost Anakin), or becoming a tragic antagonist who either kills himself in a twisted sense of justice, or die on the blade of someone trying to help.

The incompetence of Disney is astounding. We three autists on some message board just made a more compelling antagonist than they could, and they spent millions of dollars on their script. We charged nothing.

Sounds like Ben Solo could have been like a Star Wars equivalent of Kira and the Punisher, he doesnt see the Dark Side as a good thing, simply a necessary evil but how long can you use it until it starts using you? How many bad things can be justified?

And the scary thing is that he isnt exactly wrong, things go get better with the undesirables being wiped out but at cost? Ben feels he is useless but Darth Terogatur doesnt.

Tho at this point, we are pretty much fanfiction-ing a better and borderline new character (and story) at this point.

Man, it makes me sad how two kiwi farm users can come up with something smarter and different (but still belonging) to the other 2 trilogies.

Edit: Hell, what if Rey was a girl he met and slowly fell in love with it, trusting her with his other identity and they become a couple...except Rey gets too much into her dark side and couldnt keep a balance, Ben tries to save her but she only truly loves the Darth side of him so now only Ben can stop her. In the end, Ben kills her without any other choice but learns the errors of his ways and truly puts an end to his darth persona.

 

[Ghostse]

IT SUBVERTED EXPECTATIONS!

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

Don't ask questions, just clap for new content.

 

[Dom Cruise]

He added soo much to the role, which I doubt Lucas directed or scripted. I love the derisiveness/dismissiveness he says "should I have?" to Han about not having heard of the Falcon, and how he looks sceptical when he looks around the cockpit. The pauses and faraway looks were probably a seasoned actor doing all he could to flesh out his character, and it worked!

And what's funny is wasn't he not that thrilled about being in the movie? And yet he still brought his A game, because that's just what a professional does.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

This is begging for Final Destination 3 to happen. I doubt Disney will be able to hide THAT many bodies...

Would they though? For all we know they could have been doing it for years. I mean their are the rumors that Disney supported the nazis

 

[Creep3r]

Fuck I hope this is true.

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Kevin Feige wanting Brie Larson as Ahsoka? I know so many right-leaning and anti-Brie Disney Wars people who still cling on to Disney Wars shit solely because of their waifu-fixation, but hopefully this will kill any remaining hope they had in this mess once they found out their shitty waifu will be played by Captain Ms. Brie Marvel. Imagine the absolute horror on their faces as they see Ahsoka's ghost in IX and its played by their most detested actress. And if true, this pretty much shoots down any hope people had in Feige of fixing the franchise which is honestly for the best at this point since (even if Feige weren't a koolaid-drinking motherfucker) Disney would just fuck it up again once they have peoples trust back.

There's just no hope for this mess and there's no hope of retconning this mess ever either without some outrage group getting mad that Carrie Fisher's last role has been sullied and trampled over by being retconned despite how they made her look like a cunt-tier Marry Poppins for the sake of glorifying a pink-haired wacko. What a fucked up timeline this is in almost every regard.

 

[verissimus]

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Is this true?

Goddang the emperor doesn't fuck around. He knows he can charge them up the ass.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Catching up on my weekly DSP fill and who shows up in Call of Duty?

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This is fucking pathetic lmao, is the game industry this bad that they can only find one - ugly as sin - actor to fill all their superfluous black lady roles?

Debra Wilson is a fucking national treasure. Her Oprah and Whitney impressions are iconic.
She's been in lots of games. She played Storm once, and was in Wolfenstein a few years ago.

I'm more curious why they thought the irl straight yet gay4pay ginger would be a good protagonist.

 

[Ghostse]

Fuck it, I can take that idea and the other one that @The handsome tard made, slap them together, and here's our new antagonist: A twisted, near bipolar double character, Ben Solo and Kylo Ren, and here's how it goes.
With the mask off, Solo is a weird, quiet, but ultimately heroic character working with Luke to control his power, although he seems to be lagging behind in a lot of ways. He's always mopey and wondering how things will go wrong.
When he's wearing the mask, he's Darth Terogatur. Torturer, murderer, and horrifying vigilante who uses the Dark side as a cudgel to kill and brutalize those who considers a threat to Galactic stability. We can even have the New Republic be large, no First Order needed. He roots out anything and everything he considers evil, and will butcher the innocent to punish the guilty.

Subtle hints to him being one and the same would be spread with his interactions with Luke, often wondering whether or not the horrible things "Terogatur" does are justified, and while Luke tells his nephew that there's good in everyone, his nephew will counter by saying something like "what of everyone on the Death Star? Was there good in them?" or "You never redeemed Palpatine," or something like that. This would leave Luke at an impasse, and flesh out both characters. Terogatur would say things along the lines of "The Galaxy will only obey when I make it" to the people hunting him, or "The ends justify the means."

At the end of the trilogy, he's either come to terms with the imperfection of humanity and renounced the Dark Side, realizing what he was becoming (possibly after looking at the remains of Vader/a lecturing from Ghost Vader/Ghost Anakin), or becoming a tragic antagonist who either kills himself in a twisted sense of justice, or die on the blade of someone trying to help.

The incompetence of Disney is astounding. We three autists on some message board just made a more compelling antagonist than they could, and they spent millions of dollars on their script. We charged nothing.

The issue with Soylo isn't that he's a vader fanboi, the problem is that he's a vader fanboy, they try to portray him as vader, and there is no Vader.

They should have copied off the OG drafts of ANH where Vader's role was two characters: A ruthless general and a scheming prince.

You could possibly compare Finn and Kylo - both the results of the FO trying to turn them into weapons. The person who was saying about making the mask more important for Kylo's personality would have been great. Without the mask you have Ben Solo, conflicted, unsure, questioning - talented but uncomfortable with both the level of his power and his control over it... with the mask, you have Kylo Ren, stone cold badass the avatar of Lawful Evil. Its amazing what you can do when you don't have to look at yourself in the mirror

I know Harrison wanted out of SW as soon as possible, but stay with me here.
Han doesn't show up until the very end of TFA - he's the only one who knows where Luke is, he's been delivering his supplies. He does it not just because they're best friends, but because he feels responsible for Luke's exile and the destruction of the order, since his son was the one who did it.

The big moment of TLJ is Ben Solo has been shown to be reasonable, even a little timid, contrasted with Kylo Ren who has the conscience and morality of a knife. Maybe in their battle in TFA Rey is getting her ass beat until she manages to damage or knock off his mask, and then he just seems shaken and unsure of himself. Through out TLJ, Rey seems to be working on Ben - refusing to talk to 'Kylo Ren', making him see the dangers of the Dark Side, showing there is another way, it doesn't have to be Jedi vs. Sith anymore.

And near the end of the film, Han finds his son, mask off - he tells him he's still his son, and its come to stop all this. Ben then hugs his father, and runs him through with the light saber: HOLY SHIT! WHAT THE FUCK? You did NOT see that coming with only 20 minutes before the end credits!
Ben doesn't need the mask to be Kylo anymore - he has fully embraced the Dark Side, there is no Ben, there is only Ultimate Badass Kylo Ren, and with Snoke gone, he's the one in charge of the FO, and he's making it clear he's not going to be playing Snoke's sith fuckfuck games - his only goal is total victory, the galaxy under FO control.
The only people who can stop him are on the run, in less than dozen ships.
Jesus christ, I absolutely HAVE to see the 3rd movie to see how this ends.

#butwhatifitwasgood

Goddang the emperor doesn't fuck around. He knows he can charge them up the ass.

I don't want this force lighting joke to go unnoticed.

 

[verissimus]

I can already see that meme of that Spanish guy laughing hysterically with the person in question being Ian.

Here's a sample

The Last Jedi Parody

Rian Johnson (Risitas) talks about his The Last Jedi movie. He explains why the movie plot was awesome and how Disney will be great for Star Wars universe.

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[Dom Cruise]

honestly cannot believe a latter day NuttyMadam exists in the waking world...and is being showered with praise because he is sucking the right corporate taint

Gee, thanks for reminding me of NuttyMadam.

In hindsight Twilight really was Patient Zero for the dive into the toilet pop culture would take.

 

[samuraicrack]

Fuck I hope this is true.

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After fans heard that Kevin Feige is developing a new Star Wars film, there's speculation that Brie Larson could play Ahsoka Tano in the new movie.

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A new rumor indicates that Kevin Feige wants Captain Marvel actress Brie Larson to play Ahsoka Tano in an upcoming live-action Star Wars film.

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Brie Larson Being Eyed For Ahsoka Tano In Kevin Feige's Star Wars Movie

Captain Marvel's Brie Larson could possibly - emphasis on possibly - end up playing Ahsoka Tano in Kevin Feige's Star Wars movie.

wegotthiscovered.com

Disney Clearly Wants Brie Larson To Play Ahsoka Tano

#BrieLarson #Ahsoka #StarWars

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Kevin Feige wanting Brie Larson as Ahsoka? I know so many right-leaning and anti-Brie Disney Wars people who still cling on to Disney Wars shit solely because of their waifu-fixation, but hopefully this will kill any remaining hope they had in this mess once they found out their shitty waifu will be played by Captain Ms. Brie Marvel. Imagine the absolute horror on their faces as they see Ahsoka's ghost in IX and its played by their most detested actress. And if true, this pretty much shoots down any hope people had in Feige of fixing the franchise which is honestly for the best at this point since (even if Feige weren't a koolaid-drinking motherfucker) Disney would just fuck it up again once they have peoples trust back.

There's just no hope for this mess and there's no hope of retconning this mess ever either without some outrage group getting mad that Carrie Fisher's last role has been sullied and trampled over by being retconned despite how they made her look like a cunt-tier Marry Poppins for the sake of glorifying a pink-haired wacko. What a fucked up timeline this is in almost every regard.

i'm not even the biggest fan of ashoka but man is this a bad idea lmao

 

[Commander X]