Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

Secret Asshole said:
For the appeals thing, I understand its better to file early than late, as the appeals court could just say 'wait for sanctions and then re-submit'. But it seems like the entire matter is resolved and nothing is really stopping the sanctions/lawyer's fees of the TCPA. It is a consequence of it being entirely dismissed.



I guess the problem is that they don't want to play hot potato, tossing a case around and around, hoping that the slap-down will get the original judge's shit together rather than have a new one get used to the whole thing. But its a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Chupp seemed like he could not give a singular fuck about the case and seemed to want the thing gone, hence the five pages of toilet paper he wrote, knowing it was just going to get appealed anyway. His inconsistency is really weird as he seemed biased to varying levels on varying issues to everyone, not seeming to know what the fuck was going on half the time. It seemed like he read nothing and was trying to get a handle on the case in the courtroom itself, which for something with this much paper attached to it was next to impossible.

Hence all the firing from the hip and reading one binder and him being really inconsistent on things. It just seemed like he put in less than the bare minimum he needed. Its not that he was just shitty, he was inconsistently shitty.

Did Ty fuck up? Sure. But the Judge fucked up way more than Ty did.
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I feel like, maybe, if he'd actually let the lawyers talk and read their binders, he could have been caught up on the case in the span of the hearing. Unfortunately, he wanted to skip his homework and then get in and jump to the end of school the next day, so he could submit some answers on what he sort of remembered being told a week ago about the subject.

HighwayStar said:
People also forget that Vic didn’t even want to do this. The last thing he wanted to pursue litigation, because not only is he suing his former friends, but also the company where some of his current friends work. All it takes is one lawsuit and relationships and careers can unravel with a snap of a finger.

But he was forced to do it. because Monica and others wouldn’t shut up and defamed him constantly. They even tried to defame his fans (remember Samantha Inoue-Harte’s fake doxxing debacle). People who accuse Vic of using this lawsuit to “silence” his “victims” are barking the wrong tree: it’s because they weren’t “silence” about Vic that this lawsuit happen. Remember that.

I want Vic to continue working with his head up and entertain thousands of fans. But on a personal level, I want him to continue working with his friends, his real friends (besides @Svetlana, who deserves the highest form of praise for defending Vic) and for his friends to work with him without being hazed. The most heartbreaking thing about this to me is for Vic to be separated from his friends. I know fans are important, but to be isolated by your male and female friends in such that they can’t even mention you in feat of losing their job is absolutely horrible.
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I'd say it's more accurate that Vic's lawsuit is in response to the defendants trying to silence everyone else than that they wouldn't be silent. They forced his friends in the industry to be silent so they could say 'no one in the industry supports him' and demonized his fans to try to silence them as well, so they could say 'no one but incels and women haters support him'. I'm not sure the exact moment Vic decided it was time for a lawsuit, as he was shopping around before Nick ever got involved and Nick got involved pretty early on, but I imagine the fact that they tried to smother and destroy anyone who sided with him in or out of the industry was a part of what pushed him to sue.
 
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Watched Nick's stream from thursday. Apparently the caselaw that LemonBaby cites for the appeal to be untimely... doesn't apply to the Vic situation, and he's lying about them applying. They're not final judgements because there's litterally still causes of actions against other defendants in the same lawsuit. The causes of actions being appealed have been because all cause against one defendant (but not the other/s) were dismissed, so the lawsuit wasn't over.

I swear, every time lemon files something, the respect I have left for him gets destroyed... and it wasn't much to begin with!
 
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Kendrick said:
Watched Nick's stream from thursday. Apparently the caselaw that LemonBaby cites for the appeal to be untimely... doesn't apply to the Vic situation, and he's lying about them applying. They're not final judgements because there's litterally still causes of actions against other defendants in the same lawsuit. The causes of actions being appealed have been because all cause against one defendant (but not the other/s) were dismissed, so the lawsuit wasn't over.

I swear, every time lemon files something, the respect I have left for him gets destroyed... and it wasn't much to begin with!
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He also mentioned that it was bad that Lemon party submitted the entirety of plantiffs affidavits in his response and thus the affidavits are part of the record. Or something of that nature i have to rewatch Thursdays stream.
 
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Dr. Geronimo said:
If lemwhiny is this desperate now, how insane do you guys think he'll get after a year?
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Lemonparty won't be around for that long, I guarantee it.
When it becomes clear that he won't see a cent of the GFM, he will change his tune and advise MoRon to settle (at which point MoRon will probably drop him).
That's why he's writing those pathetic letters to Chupp. He knows that Chupp's ruling won't hold up to a de novo review.
That is assuming Ty doesn't fuck up the appeal, of course.

Besides, if I hired a "TCPA expert" to get a suit dismissed, only to have the suit get past TCPA, I would see no further use for that lawyer.
 
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Looking back, I do think Ty let himself get pushed around by the defendants' counsel a little too much, e.g. when it comes to the discovery abuse. Not quite sure if that was because of Vic holding him back. But since Ty always says: "Treat opposing counsel like they treat you.", he really had no reason to hold back.
 
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Lawtwitter would be a circlejerk if any of them actually had dicks, so I can kind of understand the lack of self awareness.

But in reality, they're the residue of lube on a strap-on and fungus growing from in between folds of fat that has decided to come alive and pretend like their opinions and ass kissing will someday let them fuck a woman before half an African village is done with her and not just having to slurp the gruel out of that black hole of desperation.

Enjoy the cultural enrichment.
 
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theworstkindofeurofag said:
Looking back, I do think Ty let himself get pushed around by the defendants' counsel a little too much, e.g. when it comes to the discovery abuse. Not quite sure if that was because of Vic holding him back. But since Ty always says: "Treat opposing counsel like they treat you.", he really had no reason to hold back.
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I agree he's been too polite. From the beginning, Ty said on Nick's stream that he always tries to maintain a cordial relationship with opposing counsel, unless things get out of hand. I think he was trying to play the adult in the room, especially in front of the judge... but the TCPA hearing showed it didn't help much. Lemoine's shit-flinging obfuscation strategy paid off and the judge wasn't interested in doing things properly.

(Ty's fumbles over the affidavits and 2nd Amended Petition didn't help, but by the time that happened Lemoine had already got away with tons of fuckery.)

The filings from BHBH have been normally paced, almost passive, except for that one immediate subpoena squash. Once this gets back to trial court after the appeals, I hope Ty starts objecting to every word in every non-motion-letter Lemoine files, and starts burying the unpaid asshole in paperwork. Funi's lawyers could keep up, but the MoRonica team has deeply earned every burden that may be legally inflicted upon them.
 
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Harvey Danger said:
I agree he's been too polite. From the beginning, Ty said on Nick's stream that he always tries to maintain a cordial relationship with opposing counsel, unless things get out of hand. I think he was trying to play the adult in the room, especially in front of the judge... but the TCPA hearing showed it didn't help much. Lemoine's shit-flinging obfuscation strategy paid off and the judge wasn't interested in doing things properly.

(Ty's fumbles over the affidavits and 2nd Amended Petition didn't help, but by the time that happened Lemoine had already got away with tons of fuckery.)

The filings from BHBH have been normally paced, almost passive, except for that one immediate subpoena squash. Once this gets back to trial court after the appeals, I hope Ty starts objecting to every word in every non-motion-letter Lemoine files, and starts burying the unpaid asshole in paperwork. Funi's lawyers could keep up, but the MoRonica team has deeply earned every burden that may be legally inflicted upon them.
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It's a real shame too because I was hoping big time Mr. Oil Company lawyer was going to come in and completely steamroll through whatever hack lawyer the defendants could find. I know Vic wanted to try and be nice about this but I hope he might have figured it out now and the gloves come off.

To add to this I actually don't thing Ty realizes how big this case actually. Yeah he's done cases involving millions and millions of dollars, but this is without question his most famous case. Googling his name has Vic shit all over the results. This case is going to stick with his name for a while. Fumbling now is a real bad look.
 
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Kendrick said:
Watched Nick's stream from thursday. Apparently the caselaw that LemonBaby cites for the appeal to be untimely... doesn't apply to the Vic situation, and he's lying about them applying.
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There are actually better cases for what he's arguing than he cited, despite supposedly being an expert at this shit. Even cases posted to this thread long before the notice of appeal was even filed.

Somehow he has time to scour this thread for insults to whine about like a fucking baby but skips over that.

Fucking idiot.
 
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Dr. Geronimo said:
It's a real shame too because I was hoping big time Mr. Oil Company lawyer was going to come in and completely steamroll through whatever hack lawyer the defendants could find. I know Vic wanted to try and be nice about this but I hope he might have figured it out now and the gloves come off.

To add to this I actually don't thing Ty realizes how big this case actually. Yeah he's done cases involving millions and millions of dollars, but this is without question his most famous case. Googling his name has Vic shit all over the results. This case is going to stick with his name for a while. Fumbling now is a real bad look.
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Anyone that is looking to hire BHBH is probably going to do research into the firm. Anyone looking into the case would realize that Chupp was more of a problem than anything else.

You can argue that "Ty isn't a trial lawyer" because he couldn't handle Chupp but again I doubt there is a lawyer that could get Chupp to do baseline aspects of his job.
 
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Garm said:
Anyone looking into the case would realize that Chupp was more of a problem than anything else.
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Definitely not, because that's not a perspective you can find anywhere except here or within Nick Rekieta's fandom and nobody looking for legal representation is going to dig that deep. "Vic Mignogna is a rapist and his lawyers, Beard Harrison Bullock Hughes, are incompetent con artists" is the first message that will greet anyone discovering this drama for the first time, and even if BHBH is one of the firms a prospective client has narrowed down it will continue to blare in their ears as they weigh their options.

They have plenty to lose. Their existing client base probably won't give a shit, but it's a net loss if they don't win this case and validate the largely bad publicity foisted upon them.
 
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