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This shit right here. All suffering comes from craving/desire, which is why even the minimum wage worker can live a perfectly happy simple life while DSP gets 10K a month and is still a miserable piece of shit.
My only problem with this view is as follows:

There are people who try their fucking nuts off and can't make ends meet. Their kids are sick and barely hanging on. They've gotten arrested or fired or dropped out of school in the past and despite those mistakes are doing everything they can to make it, and aren't. There are farmers who lie awake at night wondering how they're going to keep the bank from seizing land that has been in their family for 150 years. There are people who have to decide month-to-month between eating and staying warm in the winter (real winter, not fake pussy-ass 50 degree Pacific Northwest winter). People have dreams they want to turn into reality and they can't because they're too tired from working to keep the lights on and food in the cupboard and a roof over their heads and a lot of those dreams will never be realized because they're going to move on or die exhausted.

I don't care that DSP has more money than me. I'm fine (mostly). I care that he's doing better financially than all of them, and that there's not a goddamn thing to be done about it.
 
I care that he's doing better financially than all of them

You forgot "and has literally no appreciation for how incredibly lucky he is." That's the part that bugs me--there will always be people making more than me, but so long as they're genuinely appreciative of how good off they are, it's fine. It's when they want to play the victim or act as though they deserve it simply for existing that it chaps my ass.
 
You forgot "and has literally no appreciation for how incredibly lucky he is." That's the part that bugs me--there will always be people making more than me, but so long as they're genuinely appreciative of how good off they are, it's fine. It's when they want to play the victim or act as though they deserve it simply for existing that it chaps my ass.
Yeah, it really is that blend of irresponsible, consequence-free living and complete entitlement that brings my piss to a boil and makes me so MOTI that I just want him to go straight into renal failure, something that's incredibly unpleasant to undergo and would see him eventually recover...just before having a massive coronary when he gets the hospital bill.
 
He already wants people to forget about that $1800 tips goal, anyone mentioning it in the chat gets banned

Brings back the daily tips goal of $200, only to have ANOTHER tips goal tomorrow which will be god knows how much

Paypigs are truly one of a kind sort of dumbasses, even more pathetic than the streamer itself sometimes

Btw he's already half-way through the tips goal for tonight. Is it even safe to say his paypigs are in an abusive relationship with Phil? Probably not since Phil is a MARRIED, MAN. points at the ring on his finger

$30 for 2 ramen bowls, burgers he got with a "free" coupon (all he had to pay for were drinks). But he's broke, alright? Please tip and don't mention the $1800 tips goal since it's none of your fucking business you stupid idiot.
 
Similarly, if you have some insight on what Youtube's CPM is like for a video game-based channel, I'm all ears. Numbers from 2016-2017 suggested that the CPM was an average of $2, so I use a range from $1-$3.
A YouTuber I asked the other day who gets 50K views per month and uploads one long video about every day showed me their CPM was $4.

There are farmers who lie awake at night wondering how they're going to keep the bank from seizing land that has been in their family for 150 years.
If the land had been in their family for 150 years a loan for it would have been paid off. If they have other debt they should just sell some of their millions of dollars of equipment and downsize. Farmers do it all the time. Don't kid yourself into thinking first world farm owners are poor.
 
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He already wants people to forget about that $1800 tips goal, anyone mentioning it in the chat gets banned
Phil's become a parody of himself. Telling his 2nd stream the goal they met on the first stream is "in the past" and refusing to acknowledge it is hilarious. Plus the cherry on top putting the $100 tip goal back up, Jesus. Admittingly it's scummy as hell, but for him to go that far and his fans accepting it is too ridiculous to get angry about.
 
I think he's addicted to spending. If you watch his old CT videos his condo was barren, he barely had any nice things or clothes. Once the YT money came in I think he really got addicted to that lifestyle.
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This is the difference between office job salary Phil and $15-25K/month Phil. Every surface is covered with material possessions.
 
Sadly, modern farming isn't quite so cut and dry.
The amount they'd owe for the land isn't for a loan for it, it's actually for the taxes. Farmland is taxed via use-value, rather than market value. That means they pay taxes on the earning potential of the land. On large farms that can easily run in excess of $250,000/year.

And a lot of modern farm equipment isn't purchased, it's leased. So there's no way to sell it back, because they don't actually own it. It's actually kind of a big deal too. Farms that could afford that $3 million semi-automated combine essentially get locked out, as the software required to map and automate the process gets its licensing renewed every year, and often times when you add up the price of all the equipment needed, and the annual licensing, over 5 years it's actually cheaper to lease than it is to buy.

That's a big reason why a lot of farmers switched to cash crops rather than ones we could use - the taxes and yearly licensing makes it a hard living. A large farm might reap $4 million in revenue, but the owner will only bring home $80k. And that's for a hard life of sun up to sun down days for 8 months of the year.

A YouTuber I asked the other day who gets 50K views per month and uploads one long video about every day showed me their CPM was $4.


If the land had been in their family for 150 years a loan for it would have been paid off. If they have other debt they should just sell some of their millions of dollars of equipment and downsize. Farmers do it all the time. Don't kid yourself into thinking first world farm owners are poor.
 
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This is the difference between office job salary Phil and $15-25K/month Phil. Every surface is covered with material possessions.

That’s typical behavior of someone who wasn’t raised around money who fell into money: wastes it on stupid shit.

This idiot got accustomed to a lifestyle he should never had access to and has been unwilling to scale his lifestyle back down to a sustainable level.

His behavior has to have consequences. Everything does. I’m just shocked it’s taking so long: how much more pressure can he put on the backs of those who have been supporting him for years until enough is enough?
 
You forgot "and has literally no appreciation for how incredibly lucky he is." That's the part that bugs me--there will always be people making more than me, but so long as they're genuinely appreciative of how good off they are, it's fine. It's when they want to play the victim or act as though they deserve it simply for existing that it chaps my ass.
The part I hate most about DSP is similar to this but it has more to do with how entitled he feels towards the money he makes. It's beyond being simply unappreciative; he literally gets mad when he doesn't get what he feels like he deserves (note: this is now how business works). See the Pokemon Moon clip for a perfect encapsulation of what I'm talking about. I'm just endlessly amazed at the fact that Dave thinks he's a funny/skilled entertainer.

Phil's become a parody of himself. Telling his 2nd stream the goal they met on the first stream is "in the past" and refusing to acknowledge it is hilarious. Plus the cherry on top putting the $100 tip goal back up, Jesus. Admittingly it's scummy as hell, but for him to go that far and his fans accepting it is too ridiculous to get angry about.
my current theory is that the vortex of autist pseudo-detractors that hang around DSP's chat being ironically supportive and occasionally financially supportive are feeding into the delusions of the true and honest fans (delusions that DSP is a good/funny/talented streamer, that his stream is entertainment, and that DSP not only deserves but is entitled to their money) and they end up whaling more for more attention.
 
Wait has he achieved his goal? I thought he had like $600 to go just yesterday? There's no way he magically got the rest in 1 go on pretty much the deadline. Didn't he need it by the 1st Nov?

Wtf is happening with his community? Isn't this the 2nd time he's magically got the requested amount right at the end?

Same thing as always, a paypig with a newly registered account came in on the last day and got him there.
 
That’s typical behavior of someone who wasn’t raised around money who fell into money: wastes it on stupid shit.

Not necessarily, more likely because he was spoiled by his parents he never learned how to manage money, he wasn't made to mature and grow up at a normal age, so like a child in a man's body he wasted all his money on sweets and toys.
 
Wait has he achieved his goal? I thought he had like $600 to go just yesterday? There's no way he magically got the rest in 1 go on pretty much the deadline. Didn't he need it by the 1st Nov?

Wtf is happening with his community? Isn't this the 2nd time he's magically got the requested amount right at the end?

Jeff under a sock dropped around $450. Same shit different day.

You’d think Twitch would catch on to these fucking fundraisers (against ToS) but I guess he actually has to call them that for them to care.
 
His behavior has to have consequences. Everything does. I’m just shocked it’s taking so long: how much more pressure can he put on the backs of those who have been supporting him for years until enough is enough?

I think his behavior has already had consequences. Sometimes it just feels like it hasn't because they aren't Phil's immediate demise, but unfortunately, it tends to take awhile for someone to implode without a significantly big outside factor, typically something like drugs or a gambling addiction or whatever.

It is one of the few areas where Phil's boring ass hermit lifestyle actually helps him out. Other people who made way more than Phil and were legitimately famous burned out much quicker because of overly expensive interests. I think if Phil had any of those, he'd be significantly worse off. I think the closest he's come that we can actively confirm is him pouring thousands into that wrestling mobile game.

Him living above his means is still hurting him though. I believe he is genuinely struggling financially, just not to the extent that he likes to portray. While he is making money, his reputation has been destroyed for years and he's burned so many bridges I can't imagine Phil ever getting a recovery or redemption arc. But the biggest consequence is his misery. Phil hates what he does, he hates his audience and while I think he's too egotistical to admit it, he's unhappy with his life. I'm guessing that's a large part of why he spends in the first place, he's trying to buy happiness.

The biggest reason DSP is unhappy is because he wants to live like the cool main character from an 80's movie/tv series. He wants people to openly respect and look up to him. He wants people to laugh at/quote his sick burns, he wants them to talk about and praise his video game skills and just in general acknowledge how he's a tough badass. Station has always been important to Phil, and I think he tries to display that station through his possessions more than his accomplishments because he has so few of them. Even then, we see some examples, namely bragging about being married, his 4th place evo win, and then through made up things like being the first person to invent LP's or being the sole reason his helicopter factory was successful.

The issue is, Phil can only succeed now by begging and making himself look like a victim. But for us, this often leads to hilarity. One of my favorite Phil'isms is when one of his actual fans points out he isn't doing well financially and should try doing XYZ only to have Phil snap and call them a moron and explain how he's doing fine/he's a much better adult than the dude who suggested it, even though it flies in the face of the narrative DSP was just painting with his begging. That's why I think there's a genuine financial struggle because DSP would love to be able to flaunt his wealth in front of people to brag about his station, but he can't because he knows he needs the pity bux. He keeps convincing himself that the next AAA release will be the playthrough that finally puts him back at the top, not realizing he only got there in the beginning by exploiting a flaw in YouTube's algorithm, not through talent.

Phil survives on pity and he knows it. He tries to convince himself otherwise by arguing he deserves this money and people are paying him for that and not his latest victimization scam. But not even his paypigs support this narrative. Sure, every so often he gets a paypig who openly says they're donating because of Phil being good/funny/whatever, but I think the majority of the time it is pity donations or people trying to spite detractors. The thing is, Phil's ungrateful attitude does push his paypigs away, so even then there are consequence for him. Imagine if he was kinder and managed to hook E7 or Tut and continued to get that level of support. That's how the actual successful streamers/content creators like Ninja/PewDiePie end up making bank. Phil keeps shooting himself in the foot, and while it hasn't outright led to his downfall, it is still hurting him, and he will eventually reach the point where he runs out of paypigs who can step up. IMO, he's never really recruited new ones, I think he just has a small following of old ones who couldn't compete with the previous paypig and are just waiting for the current ones to leave/be banned so they can step up and take over.
 
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