Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Random Internet Person]

To add to what @TexOffender said:
>Ty finally called for backup and they're calling for sanctions towards lemoine so it seems they brought the artillery and aren't considering anything else.
>Huber Hubere'd
>A bunch of new shit just got added to the lawsuit thread right now, apparently everyone's calling for hearings for a ton of different shit.
>The appeals court clerk accepted Ty's appeals. (That is not to say they got approved by the appeals court, they just got added to their docket.)
>The defendants yet again run to the media. This time it's a radio.
Also a highlight to what Tex said, Lemoine is literally asking for the entire gofundme as lawyers fees. No I'm not kidding. And that'd be before sanctions. Obviously this exceeds the legal maximum he could ever get without chupp getting immediately smashed by a writ of mandamus for being a moron.

Actually, I think it’s Funimation wanting the GFM amount. Mosquito is just padding his bill.

 

[Apterigo]

DDL/Archive (Converted to MP3-160kbps ~90MB)

Gave it a listen, seemed pretty decent for an outside perspective. Some brief highlights:

• Vic may have had a decent case, but Ty fucked it up hard at critical times to the point of possibly qualifying for malpractice
• The TI and Defamation claims against Toye are definitely the strongest, but Ty completely fumbled the ball with the notary shit and the amended pleading.
• Ty seems generally incompetent with the above incident, as well as wasting time on Nick's streams and running around in circles trying to get Toye to confirm his tweets, when Ty should have just said "is there any reason for you to think these *aren't* your tweets", get a no as a response, and move on
• Chupp clearly wrote out his ruling while sitting on the shitter for how brief and conclusory it was. The facts that he didn't cite any cases and misspelled "liability" suggest this.
• Nick seems to be competent when it comes to black letter interpretation of law, but not experienced with the practice. They cite a stream where Nick said the structure of the TCPA hearing itself could be appealed - where in the real world trial judges tend to do whatever the fuck they want when it comes to the structure of hearings because they consider themselves the kings/queens of the court
• Vic's reputation has been shit for years based on their independent research, so even if he's completely in the right it's harder to look good making the arguments. They say he's arguably defamation proof because of how long his reputation has been like this.
• This case is clearly being used by groups like KF and Lawtwitter to fight the culture war. If someone wanted to legally fight against #metoo and cancel culture, they should pick a squeaky clean person who was wrongfully damaged, not someone like Vic
• Whether or not Vic is innocent, they point out that the current ruling sets a dangerous precedent - that any innocent person can get their life ruined, bring petitions to the courts, and get immediately shut down with no real consideration for any evidence involved
• The general consensus from the guys is that the appeal will probably end up not working out, but they equally wouldn't be surprised if some of it (especially the shit on Toye) got successfully appealed and brought back to trial. They do note that if it goes back to trial, they think Vic's case is fucked because of the dirt the defense will be able to dig up about him.
• Lawtwitter is particularly stupid, and apparently they've gotten death threats and dox threats from Lawtwitter speds
• Everyone who is involved in this mess of a case is incredibly fuckin stupid, and while it has been entertaining they partly regret ever looking at this burning shitheap

 

[The Wisdom of Bassets]

There's moments it feels like reporters are mercenaries who don't care about anything as much as keeping their jobs.

We live in a globalist society where the truth doesn't seem to matter as much as loyalty. You see this ethic all the time, people going along with things because they know the cost to stand up for the truth is much greater than the kudos they will receive for toeing the line.

It makes me sick, being around people willing to lie to get their way. The media seems especially prone to ethical lapses, operating off a bankrupt business model and transforming themselves into clickfarms serving the PR industry. What animals.

When I got out of the biz a decade ago, we were getting J school grads that were interested only in pushing their agenda...the one they got in college and J-School. I guess it's merc in a way but it's not their job they are worried about. The job is a means to an end.
That end is the agenda.

These people are not remotely interested in actual journalism because actual journalism is about the five Ws: Who-What-When-Where-Why. If any of those produce a set of facts that run counter to the agenda they were given, it must be either blackholed or attacked. These people were indoctrinated Soviet style, by "Professors" that were themselves indoctrinated. For those who have not seen it, I STRONGLY recommend the following video by an actual former Soviet operative whose job it was to cultivate such people... It's an hour and a half and must see for anyone wanting to understand the media.

YouTube

www.youtube.com

 

[ThatDumbPhilosopher]

To add to what @TexOffender said:
>Ty finally called for backup and they're calling for sanctions towards lemoine so it seems they brought the artillery and aren't considering anything else.
>Huber Hubere'd
>A bunch of new shit just got added to the lawsuit thread right now, apparently everyone's calling for hearings for a ton of different shit.
>The appeals court clerk accepted Ty's appeals. (That is not to say they got approved by the appeals court, they just got added to their docket.)
>The defendants yet again run to the media. This time it's a radio.
Also a highlight to what Tex said, Lemoine is literally asking for the entire gofundme as lawyers fees. No I'm not kidding. And that'd be before sanctions. Obviously this exceeds the legal maximum he could ever get without chupp getting immediately smashed by a writ of mandamus for being a moron.

Thank you once again for your clarification, I can see clearly now and am updated until this point.
Thanks !

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Ew Demon Mills go to hell

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Actually, I think it’s Funimation wanting the GFM amount. Mosquito is just padding his bill.

No, in fact, fun fact, Funimation actually asked for a little less than half of what lemoine asked. And marchi's lawyer was yet again the most sensible, having only asked for 50k, which is still a lot but within the realm of what could be expected to some degree.
EDIT: I don't know how to cross post from the lawsuit thread so, https://kiwifarms.net/threads/victor-mignogna-v-funimation-productions-llc-et-al.55556/page-562 Check the images in @Much Ado About Nothing's post.
There's also a screencap of Fuhrer Lemwah's smug twitter post about it on another page. Yes he literally bragged on twitter about how stupid he was going to be.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Gave it a listen, seemed pretty decent for an outside perspective. Some brief highlights:

• Vic may have had a decent case, but Ty fucked it up hard at critical times to the point of possibly qualifying for malpractice
• The TI and Defamation claims against Toye are definitely the strongest, but Ty completely fumbled the ball with the notary shit and the amended pleading.
• Ty seems generally incompetent with the above incident, as well as wasting time on Nick's streams and running around in circles trying to get Toye to confirm his tweets, when Ty should have just said "is there any reason for you to think these *aren't* your tweets", get a no as a response, and move on
• Chupp clearly wrote out his ruling while sitting on the shitter for how brief and conclusory it was. The facts that he didn't cite any cases and misspelled "liability" suggest this.
• Nick seems to be competent when it comes to black letter interpretation of law, but not experienced with the practice. They cite a stream where Nick said the structure of the TCPA hearing itself could be appealed - where in the real world trial judges tend to do whatever the fuck they want when it comes to the structure of hearings because they consider themselves the kings/queens of the court
• Vic's reputation has been shit for years based on their independent research, so even if he's completely in the right it's harder to look good making the arguments. They say he's arguably defamation proof because of how long his reputation has been like this.
• This case is clearly being used by groups like KF and Lawtwitter to fight the culture war. If someone wanted to legally fight against #metoo and cancel culture, they should pick a squeaky clean person who was wrongfully damaged, not someone like Vic
• Whether or not Vic is innocent, they point out that the current ruling sets a dangerous precedent - that any innocent person can get their life ruined, bring petitions to the courts, and get immediately shut down with no real consideration for any evidence involved
• The general consensus from the guys is that the appeal will probably end up not working out, but they equally wouldn't be surprised if some of it (especially the shit on Toye) got successfully appealed and brought back to trial. They do note that if it goes back to trial, they think Vic's case is fucked because of the dirt the defense will be able to dig up about him.
• Lawtwitter is particularly stupid, and apparently they've gotten death threats and dox threats from Lawtwitter speds
• Everyone who is involved in this mess of a case is incredibly fuckin stupid, and while it has been entertaining they partly regret ever looking at this burning shitheap

Lemon and Jamie are going Hiroshima, Nagasaki, AND Tokyo Rose/Axis Sally on this, I see? They really wanna punish Vic for refusing to eat a bullet. Something about this makes me think #MeToo and Operation Broken Staircase is a lie

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Gave it a listen, seemed pretty decent for an outside perspective. Some brief highlights:

• Vic may have had a decent case, but Ty fucked it up hard at critical times to the point of possibly qualifying for malpractice
• The TI and Defamation claims against Toye are definitely the strongest, but Ty completely fumbled the ball with the notary shit and the amended pleading.
• Ty seems generally incompetent with the above incident, as well as wasting time on Nick's streams and running around in circles trying to get Toye to confirm his tweets, when Ty should have just said "is there any reason for you to think these *aren't* your tweets", get a no as a response, and move on
• Chupp clearly wrote out his ruling while sitting on the shitter for how brief and conclusory it was. The facts that he didn't cite any cases and misspelled "liability" suggest this.
• Nick seems to be competent when it comes to black letter interpretation of law, but not experienced with the practice. They cite a stream where Nick said the structure of the TCPA hearing itself could be appealed - where in the real world trial judges tend to do whatever the fuck they want when it comes to the structure of hearings because they consider themselves the kings/queens of the court
• Vic's reputation has been shit for years based on their independent research, so even if he's completely in the right it's harder to look good making the arguments. They say he's arguably defamation proof because of how long his reputation has been like this.
• This case is clearly being used by groups like KF and Lawtwitter to fight the culture war. If someone wanted to legally fight against #metoo and cancel culture, they should pick a squeaky clean person who was wrongfully damaged, not someone like Vic
• Whether or not Vic is innocent, they point out that the current ruling sets a dangerous precedent - that any innocent person can get their life ruined, bring petitions to the courts, and get immediately shut down with no real consideration for any evidence involved
• The general consensus from the guys is that the appeal will probably end up not working out, but they equally wouldn't be surprised if some of it (especially the shit on Toye) got successfully appealed and brought back to trial. They do note that if it goes back to trial, they think Vic's case is fucked because of the dirt the defense will be able to dig up about him.
• Lawtwitter is particularly stupid, and apparently they've gotten death threats and dox threats from Lawtwitter speds
• Everyone who is involved in this mess of a case is incredibly fuckin stupid, and while it has been entertaining they partly regret ever looking at this burning shitheap

You know that is a pretty fair assessment of the case. I think they should have looked into the defendant's lunacy more, but I get where they're coming from.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

No, in fact, fun fact, Funimation actually asked for a little less than half of what lemoine asked. And marchi's lawyer was yet again the most sensible, having only asked for 50k, which is still a lot but within the realm of what could be expected to some degree.

Can't remember if it was Nick that said it, or someone here, but Marchi's lawyer has no feasible way to justify a colossal sum like Lemonfag and funi. He's a very small lawyer, doesn't cost much.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Can't remember if it was Nick that said it, or someone here, but Marchi's lawyer has no feasible way to justify a colossal sum like Lemonfag and funi. He's a very small lawyer, doesn't cost much.

That's true but also Lemwah didn't have any feasible way to justify over a quarter of a million bucks, and indeed he didn't, he just literally dropped them as fees without justification and then added supposed justification for sanctions ON TOP of that. And Nick butchered Volney's (funimation's lawyer) filing for being hyperpadded with utter bullshit, including fees for shit Chupp literally said they needed to pay individually (the mediation) and for reuniting with the
other defendants (which is completely unreasonable because it's not part of any kind of required legal strategy. Like that's literally like asking for compensation for the starbucks they drunk while working on the case.) so yeah... Sam indeed would've had a harder time that Volney justifying shit, but seeing as how neither of the other 2 lawyers bothered with justifying shit at all, I'm kinda giving him a backhanded compliment for not being as exceptional as his peers.

 

[Nontransferable]

Vic's reputation has been shit for years based on their independent research, so even if he's completely in the right it's harder to look good making the arguments. They say he's arguably defamation proof because of how long his reputation has been like this.

Vic was on the red carpet in January, promoting what would become the highest grossing anime movie ever in the states, for which he was cast as the title character. Monical Rial even spoke fondly of him when asked by a reporter.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Lemon and Jamie are going Hiroshima, Nagasaki, AND Tokyo Rose/Axis Sally on this, I see? They really wanna punish Vic for refusing to eat a bullet. Something about this makes me think #MeToo and Operation Broken Staircase is a lie

Of course it's a fucking lie, these degenerates want their name in lights while whoever they point at gets demonized by the mob. They don't care if the mob goes too far and lynches an innocent man, they didn't directly tie the noose. And the mob doesn't care either, they see their actions as justified. One less monster in the world terrorizing the innocent. It's fucking repulsive.

 

[ThatDumbPhilosopher]

Of course it's a fucking lie, these degenerates want their name in lights while whoever they point at gets demonized by the mob. They don't care if the mob goes too far and lynches an innocent man, they didn't directly tie the noose. And the mob doesn't care either, they see their actions as justified. One less monster in the world terrorizing the innocent. It's fucking repulsive.

That is what we call a "Big Power Trip" give them enough power and they will put a Tyranny in place.

 

[P5Fever]

Stan Dahlin on Twitter

“Salty.”

twitter.com

Stan stop being vague, I wanna make fun of whoever you’re vagueing.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Oh my lord I need to crosspost this image from the lawsuit thread, yet again credit to @Much Ado About Nothing, fucking Lem*SadTromboneNoises* is literally accusing Nick of being a Kiwi.
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1572993527240-png.998861/
Also btw hi lemoine, mosquito chan says she's sorry west nile chan didn't finish the job and hopes you'll come back to her for round two.

 

[ThatDumbPhilosopher]

Come on boys, say Hi to Lemwaaah.
Truth is out, we are all Rekieta, let me grab my Fireball for a swig in order to celebrate that.

 

[P5Fever]

Oh my lord I need to crosspost this image from the lawsuit thread, yet again credit to @Much Ado About Nothing, fucking Lem*SadTromboneNoises* is literally accusing Nick of being a Kiwi.
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1572993527240-png.998861/
Also btw hi lemoine, mosquito chan says she's sorry west nile chan didn't finish the job and hopes you'll come back to her for round two.

What an asshurt faggot

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Oh my lord I need to crosspost this image from the lawsuit thread, yet again credit to @Much Ado About Nothing, fucking Lem*SadTromboneNoises* is literally accusing Nick of being a Kiwi.
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1572993527240-png.998861/
Also btw hi lemoine, mosquito chan says she's sorry west nile chan didn't finish the job and hopes you'll come back to her for round two.

Fucking hell Lemonfag, thank you for delivering some high quality shit.

 

[Monkey Prick]

Gave it a listen, seemed pretty decent for an outside perspective. Some brief highlights:

• Vic may have had a decent case, but Ty fucked it up hard at critical times to the point of possibly qualifying for malpractice
• The TI and Defamation claims against Toye are definitely the strongest, but Ty completely fumbled the ball with the notary shit and the amended pleading.
• Ty seems generally incompetent with the above incident, as well as wasting time on Nick's streams and running around in circles trying to get Toye to confirm his tweets, when Ty should have just said "is there any reason for you to think these *aren't* your tweets", get a no as a response, and move on
• Chupp clearly wrote out his ruling while sitting on the shitter for how brief and conclusory it was. The facts that he didn't cite any cases and misspelled "liability" suggest this.
• Nick seems to be competent when it comes to black letter interpretation of law, but not experienced with the practice. They cite a stream where Nick said the structure of the TCPA hearing itself could be appealed - where in the real world trial judges tend to do whatever the fuck they want when it comes to the structure of hearings because they consider themselves the kings/queens of the court
• Vic's reputation has been shit for years based on their independent research, so even if he's completely in the right it's harder to look good making the arguments. They say he's arguably defamation proof because of how long his reputation has been like this.
• This case is clearly being used by groups like KF and Lawtwitter to fight the culture war. If someone wanted to legally fight against #metoo and cancel culture, they should pick a squeaky clean person who was wrongfully damaged, not someone like Vic
• Whether or not Vic is innocent, they point out that the current ruling sets a dangerous precedent - that any innocent person can get their life ruined, bring petitions to the courts, and get immediately shut down with no real consideration for any evidence involved
• The general consensus from the guys is that the appeal will probably end up not working out, but they equally wouldn't be surprised if some of it (especially the shit on Toye) got successfully appealed and brought back to trial. They do note that if it goes back to trial, they think Vic's case is fucked because of the dirt the defense will be able to dig up about him.
• Lawtwitter is particularly stupid, and apparently they've gotten death threats and dox threats from Lawtwitter speds
• Everyone who is involved in this mess of a case is incredibly fuckin stupid, and while it has been entertaining they partly regret ever looking at this burning shitheap

Sounds like a lot of fart huffing from another peanut gallery, thanks for listening to it so I didn't have to waste my time with more dogshit opinions from internet personalities masquerading as experts.

 

[ThatDumbPhilosopher]

Sounds like a lot of fart huffing from another peanute gallery, thanks for listening to it so I didn't have to waste my time with more dogshit opinions from internet personalities masquerading as experts.

Well what did you expect ? These people think that Power is related with being Smart.
It is not that at all, just because people listen to you because you are famous doesn't mean that what you say is relevant/smart. You just have more cretins who listen to you because you are famous and have more charisma than the average neckbeard.