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Fucking wow, the Sonic movie trailer took five days to reach 22 million views while TROS took three weeks to get to 27 million years.
Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off
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I'm liking the Mandalorian so far .......as long as I disable all critical thinking.
The good:
I like that they have gone with a Western/Ronin vibe to the show.
Starwars has always blended genre's to create it's 'unique yet familiar' universe.
Akira Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress inspired the original story, so you have always had the Samurai film influence mashed in there with science fiction and fairy-tale.
Starwars with all it's harsh frontier worlds was always going to lend it's self well to the Western genre.
I like that it's unashamedly male (so far), it's a real boys adventure story.
Let the feminists bitch about how badly it scores on the Bechdel test, it's about time Disney actually pandered to the one audience that actually gives a shit about Starwars. As a result there's no Mary-Sueyness to it. The Mandalorian is a character allowed to fail and get beat on like a read headed step child.
Will we be allowed just one little sand-box over here to play in?
Probably not. I'm still waiting for them to announce a brand new episode as 'the first in the new Starwars universe to have an all female writing team and the first black trans director!' You know it's going to happen just as surely as Kathleen Kennedy's name appears as a producer in the credits.
I really like just how many of the aliens are practical effects (thank the Gods TV budgets) even baby Yoda. It adds a bit authenticity back into the universe that I felt CGI had kind of polished out.
The Criticism:
This feels like what I suspect it is. Re-purposed scripts from when this was intended to be a Boba Fett movie. They're just inelegantly chopping each act into an episode.
I like that the creative team involved (Faverau & Feloni) are people that genuinely seem to love and respect Starwars. Seriously Disney. How hard was it to make the creative choice to put people that love Starwars in charge of Starwars?
I mean, fuck, given how universally loved Starwars was, it must have been a genuine struggle for them to find a creative team who clearly didn't give a shit about the franchise to come up with it's relaunch.
That said.....
I don't think Dave Feloni is cut out for live action just yet. I thought the direction of the first episode was lackluster and the action was awful (the second episode was an improvement, but still a little sloppy).
Why would you trust the pilot episode to someone that has never directed live action before? The pilot was not the place for Feloni to create a show reel to try and level up his career.
The story telling also feels very cartoony. It's hard to explain, but the show feels like a really polished fan film of a Clone Wars episode, that should not be a surprise but it still doesn't feel like something that levels up to 'grown up cinema'. This is especially the case with the action scenes that veer into Loony Tunes territory. I don't care how awesome Beskar armor is, it ain't absorbing a hit from a three ton charging space rhino.
I'm concerned about Faverau's input too.
He, for better or worse, set the template for the MCU with Iron Man. I get the feeling, from the MCU-esque opening credits, that perhaps Faverau has been brought in to do the same with Starwars under the guidance of his MCU employer Feige, who now also has a finger in the Starwars pie.
Some might welcome an MCU-ified Starwars but I'd rather it took it's time telling smaller and more unique stories before turning into a homogeneous marketing driven juggernaut all over again.
Faverau may love starwars, but he's a bland journeyman director and filmmaker IMO. Studio's unfortunately love that about him, because his aesthetic is easily replicated by the other journeymen creators they will want to plug to the series to maintain a consistent corporate branded 'look and feel' to their expanded universe.
I actually don't like that the series feels almost like an apology from Disney to the OG fans, because it doesn't feel sincere. It feels like the panicked apology of somebody that's just gotten caught and now they're making all kinds to promises to make up for the shit they pulled.
The result is way too much fan service that again makes the show feel more like a really polished fan film, packed with 'memberberries and an amateur enthusiasts over eagerness to please, but the actual story is tripping over the series desire to wank you to climax a with all the STARWARS it wants to throw at you!
The show needs to calm down with that shit.
Finally I think that either Pedro Pascal was wrong for the role, or perhaps the fact that three people (and a digital double) are playing the part and two of them are 'stunt actors', means that you subconsciously know your not watching a unique performance, you're watching several performances and that makes the character hard to connect with. The Mandalorian himself is a bit dull I'm afraid and the cheezy flashbacks don't add anything that doesn't feel tacked on to simply give him depth, they're lazy storytelling 101.
The good:
I like that they have gone with a Western/Ronin vibe to the show.
Starwars has always blended genre's to create it's 'unique yet familiar' universe.
Akira Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress inspired the original story, so you have always had the Samurai film influence mashed in there with science fiction and fairy-tale.
Starwars with all it's harsh frontier worlds was always going to lend it's self well to the Western genre.
I like that it's unashamedly male (so far), it's a real boys adventure story.
Let the feminists bitch about how badly it scores on the Bechdel test, it's about time Disney actually pandered to the one audience that actually gives a shit about Starwars. As a result there's no Mary-Sueyness to it. The Mandalorian is a character allowed to fail and get beat on like a read headed step child.
Will we be allowed just one little sand-box over here to play in?
Probably not. I'm still waiting for them to announce a brand new episode as 'the first in the new Starwars universe to have an all female writing team and the first black trans director!' You know it's going to happen just as surely as Kathleen Kennedy's name appears as a producer in the credits.
I really like just how many of the aliens are practical effects (thank the Gods TV budgets) even baby Yoda. It adds a bit authenticity back into the universe that I felt CGI had kind of polished out.
The Criticism:
This feels like what I suspect it is. Re-purposed scripts from when this was intended to be a Boba Fett movie. They're just inelegantly chopping each act into an episode.
I like that the creative team involved (Faverau & Feloni) are people that genuinely seem to love and respect Starwars. Seriously Disney. How hard was it to make the creative choice to put people that love Starwars in charge of Starwars?
I mean, fuck, given how universally loved Starwars was, it must have been a genuine struggle for them to find a creative team who clearly didn't give a shit about the franchise to come up with it's relaunch.
That said.....
I don't think Dave Feloni is cut out for live action just yet. I thought the direction of the first episode was lackluster and the action was awful (the second episode was an improvement, but still a little sloppy).
Why would you trust the pilot episode to someone that has never directed live action before? The pilot was not the place for Feloni to create a show reel to try and level up his career.
The story telling also feels very cartoony. It's hard to explain, but the show feels like a really polished fan film of a Clone Wars episode, that should not be a surprise but it still doesn't feel like something that levels up to 'grown up cinema'. This is especially the case with the action scenes that veer into Loony Tunes territory. I don't care how awesome Beskar armor is, it ain't absorbing a hit from a three ton charging space rhino.
I'm concerned about Faverau's input too.
He, for better or worse, set the template for the MCU with Iron Man. I get the feeling, from the MCU-esque opening credits, that perhaps Faverau has been brought in to do the same with Starwars under the guidance of his MCU employer Feige, who now also has a finger in the Starwars pie.
Some might welcome an MCU-ified Starwars but I'd rather it took it's time telling smaller and more unique stories before turning into a homogeneous marketing driven juggernaut all over again.
Faverau may love starwars, but he's a bland journeyman director and filmmaker IMO. Studio's unfortunately love that about him, because his aesthetic is easily replicated by the other journeymen creators they will want to plug to the series to maintain a consistent corporate branded 'look and feel' to their expanded universe.
I actually don't like that the series feels almost like an apology from Disney to the OG fans, because it doesn't feel sincere. It feels like the panicked apology of somebody that's just gotten caught and now they're making all kinds to promises to make up for the shit they pulled.
The result is way too much fan service that again makes the show feel more like a really polished fan film, packed with 'memberberries and an amateur enthusiasts over eagerness to please, but the actual story is tripping over the series desire to wank you to climax a with all the STARWARS it wants to throw at you!
The show needs to calm down with that shit.
Finally I think that either Pedro Pascal was wrong for the role, or perhaps the fact that three people (and a digital double) are playing the part and two of them are 'stunt actors', means that you subconsciously know your not watching a unique performance, you're watching several performances and that makes the character hard to connect with. The Mandalorian himself is a bit dull I'm afraid and the cheezy flashbacks don't add anything that doesn't feel tacked on to simply give him depth, they're lazy storytelling 101.
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We live in the real world, man. We got the opposite of all that. At the very least, we'll definitely get to see Kathleen breakdown after the awfully named trilogy finale comes out. This will basically be her speech when she's fired after firing everyone working on Star Wars to deflect blame:
"Has my judgement come so soon? I had to browbeat them all! Traitors siding with the fans! Treason! Now we are nothing! What was the point of it all? Have you tried looking after the fans? They're nazis! As they grow in number, so does their capacity for wrongthink, and they won't even notice as they do it. I was not the nazi."
And these will be her tweets:
"REEEEEEEEEEE!"
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She actually looks kinda cute why isnt she a main character?
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She probably didn't let herself become airtight with Bob Iger, JJ Abrams and whoever else is behind the curtain casting couch at Disney-NuLucasfilm
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Could be she's a shitty actress and is only there at all because of nepotism. Like Jett Lucas in Episode III.
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Was Jett Lucas that Padawan that got killed when Senator Organa parked at the Jedi Temple and the 501st told him that the area was off-limits and basically told him politely to fuck off?
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Yup that one
SW haves a long history of inserting friends and family into the films in order to kill them off on screen with a few exceptions who didn't die here and there.
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Yep. One of the bigger unintended consequences of Lucas's generally thoughtless approach to the prequels was that Jett's cameo made it a whole lot harder to root for the Jedi when it turns out they happily employ child soldiers.
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I like how Luke's saber looks like a katana in that shot:
She does appear to have a Twitter account that follows Jason Ward and is followed by her husband, last I checked. It's something like KathyKennedy or just Kathleen Kennedy, no profile picture.
To be fair, the only time we ever saw a child fight was fighting for his life to get away from Darth Child-Killer. It's not like they brought them in as backup at the first Geonosis battle.
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I'll give you that. But it struck me as the sort of thing that Lucas didn't really think through when it came to the implications.
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Except this was a Padawan near the Jedi Temple, and it's entirely probable he was just mixed up in the chaos. There was no scene where he was ordered to charge into the Clones.
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I don't know about that. Without even looking at the EU, he comes off as the equivalent of a kid who's just had his family and friends killed by home invaders and is now trying to use his limited skills with a gun to do something about it to avenge them and to make sure no one else dies.
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The term "Dyad" is just retarded
Oh and apparently all of the star destroyers have death star tech.
Oh and apparently all of the star destroyers have death star tech.
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JJ's a living meme. He's going to give us a fleet of Death Star-Destroyers than can annihilate infinite planets.
"Oh, there's a girl I like. Here's a McMuffin."
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Comment I found from Mauler's Discord:
Dark Empire: Palpatine cast his soul across the galaxy, into a clone body he had prepared in case of his death, at a terrible cost - weakening him and leaving him unable to do anything until the bulk of the Empire had already fallen, so he began rebuilding his forces to take the galaxy, striking out with horrifying weapons an army that blitzed the New Republic, driving them from Coruscant and putting them on the defensive until Luke and Leia fought him together.
EP. IX: yeah, so I survived the fall and have been sitting on my ass for 30 years as my empire collapses
Good job, J.J. Good job.
Dark Empire: Palpatine cast his soul across the galaxy, into a clone body he had prepared in case of his death, at a terrible cost - weakening him and leaving him unable to do anything until the bulk of the Empire had already fallen, so he began rebuilding his forces to take the galaxy, striking out with horrifying weapons an army that blitzed the New Republic, driving them from Coruscant and putting them on the defensive until Luke and Leia fought him together.
EP. IX: yeah, so I survived the fall and have been sitting on my ass for 30 years as my empire collapses
Good job, J.J. Good job.
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Remember when Luke was the flawed but still ultimate hero?
The man who always believed everyone had good within them? He knew that if Vader had some good within him that his own son could bring it out? That only a true hopeless malevolent monster like his master could end his own offspring? Turned out he was right. Anakin's tale taught you that no one is beyond falling from grace...but never beyond redemption either.
The man who rebuilt things for good this time, having the guidance and the knowledge to bring a true rebirth to the jedi order?
The man who redeemed his own assassin, fell in love with her and fathered a child?
Who led the Jedi through highs and lows for decades?
I remember Disney
You can wave Jake Skywalker in my face how much you want and pretend its showing his flaws.
Being flawed isnt the same as writing a good character. OT Luke was flawed, he wasnt beyond doing harsh but even well intended decisions. You can say he would attempt to murder his nephew upon detecting "such evil" within him. Its clear his flaws are to make Rey seem even higher than him...
The real Luke resides within our hearts, the movies and Legends...
That Luke will always remain my hero and role model...
You know, part of me wishes that Luke and Rey had some actual chemistry together and TLJ was all about how they completed the void they had within them brought by their own personal tragedies...this image would feel cute and meaningful as in a "Aw isnt it cute, mentor and apprentice and those toy commercials?
But no, I feel nothing, Im disgusted to be reminded of TLJ and how manipulative they are to try to make a cute out of pretty bleak movie.
The worst part is that she will quickly take her leave, knowing she destroyed SW and that she will never get true punishment for it. Their futures are secured at the end of the day, even if they sunk the ship and took the only boat (leaving everyone else to drown).
I was not a fan of Dark Empire either way but oh boi....
I feel like EP9 will make me want to buy the whole Dark Empire trilogy and shout to its pages
"OH MY GOD! IM SORRY!!!"