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Pargon said:
"I have never interacted with him."

Appreciated, but you don't need to interact with someone to give them preferential treatment. In point of fact, "we never even talked" is one of the first defenses leaped to when accusations arise. I don't need to interact with Phil to do all kinds of things to benefit him, and I don't even work for the platform he uses to scam money from wheelchairs.

All Hassan needs to have done is make reports made against Phil go away, or been ordered to do such and followed said order. No interaction necessary.

Nice weasel language.
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Agreed 100%. Yeah sure you don't have to interact with him, but maybe that's also not helping the case at all, either. He's just as guilty for letting it happen and not caring at all.
 
I'll be honest, reaching out to Hassan (of all people, really) is fucking futile, childish and even cringey.

This guy is a fat fucking loser creep who's more interested in harvesting relationships with female streamers in preparation for TwitchCon than actually doing whatever his job requires.

Twitch is a big corporation, valued at billions. And like every other big business in a capitalist system, the only thing they care about is their bottom line.

And, unfortunately for us, DSP pads up that bottom line. Better than almost 95% of people streaming on this website. Phil brings in money. The moment the opposite happens and his toxic behavior can be used as justification to de-platform him, then maybe, just maybe we have a case for getting rid of him.

Whoever is doing this, stop embarrassing yourself. Nothing will happen to DSP via Twitch and we shouldn't count on it.
 
MoonRocker said:
I'll be honest, reaching out to Hassan (of all people, really) is fucking futile, childish and even cringey.

This guy is a fat fucking loser creep who's more interested in harvesting relationships with female streamers in preparation for TwitchCon than actually doing whatever his job requires.

Twitch is a big corporation, valued at billions. And like every other big business in a capitalist system, the only thing they care about is their bottom line.

And, unfortunately for us, DSP pads up that bottom line. Better than almost 95% of people streaming on this website. Phil brings in money. The moment the opposite happens and his toxic behavior can be used as justification to de-platform him, then maybe, just maybe we have a case for getting rid of him.

Whoever is doing this, stop embarrassing yourself. Nothing will happen to DSP via Twitch and we shouldn't count on it.
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serious gay ops only
 
MoonRocker said:
I'll be honest, reaching out to Hassan (of all people, really) is fucking futile, childish and even cringey.

This guy is a fat fucking loser creep who's more interested in harvesting relationships with female streamers in preparation for TwitchCon than actually doing whatever his job requires.

Twitch is a big corporation, valued at billions. And like every other big business in a capitalist system, the only thing they care about is their bottom line.

And, unfortunately for us, DSP pads up that bottom line. Better than almost 95% of people streaming on this website. Phil brings in money. The moment the opposite happens and his toxic behavior can be used as justification to de-platform him, then maybe, just maybe we have a case for getting rid of him.

Whoever is doing this, stop embarrassing yourself. Nothing will happen to DSP via Twitch and we shouldn't count on it.
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What I didn't like from those messages was how the guy was writing in "how do you do fell kids?" mode with his hey dawg I heard the 411 that you're frontin' for Phil whassup with that fam straight up yo that is whack and not jiggy.
 
Phil's proud statement saying he can't be canceled is false because it already happened. 99.9% of the internet know him as a laughing stock and beggar, and the incident was the final nail in the coffin 3 years ago. He's already been canceled by his own doing, he's just trying desperately to cling onto that last 0.1% and his 4th place win to convince himself he's not a failure.
 
SojiroSakura said:
Phil's proud statement saying he can't be canceled is false because it already happened. 99.9% of the internet know him as a laughing stock and beggar, and the incident was the final nail in the coffin 3 years ago. He's already been canceled by his own doing, he's just trying desperately to cling onto that last 0.1% and his 4th place win to convince himself he's not a failure.
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That's the key point, I think. He thinks he can't be cancelled because he's retreated into his own little Twitch/WAkahndo bubble where he's super successful, good-looking, has a supermodel wife, a pet tiger, and swings a huge dick. The less he has to deal with the outside world, the more he likes it. It's not agoraphobia as much as an "I-refuse-to-acknowledge-reality" situation, like a little kid plugging his ears and going la-la-la so he doesn't have to hear something he doesn't like.

On another note, are we getting a State of the Stream beg/info session on Thursday?
 
Does anyone remember why Phil started staying up until 4 in the morning?

Answer: Leanna couldn't sleep next to him because he snored too loud.

Okay, okay, lets ignore that. One day of not showering isn't that bad. Slap on some deodorant I guess. Phil goes up to three days without a shower. And he has 'terrible night sweats'. Figure in that the night sweats is due to his body expelling the excess alcohol. Phil probably smells pretty bad.

Oh yeah, the post nasal drip. Gallons of bacteria going down your mouth hole. Bateria emit an odor. The odor goes out your mouth hole. Yes Phil 100% has bad breath. Look up any Post Nasal Drip symptom list. Bad breath. This snoring, sweaty, unbathed pig is also breathing swap gas onto whoever sleeps next to him.

Nah, doods. Kat totally loves this.
 
PieceofShet said:
Here is a seemingly random question for 50 autistic power level points.

ANYONE KNOW WHEN HE STARTED TO RUN "HIS" SHITTY MUSICS ON PRESTREAM? I was wondering about this the other day.
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What, you don’t like hearing thugs on the floor a billon times? You gotta grow up dood, the world isn’t black and white. Too much effort to look up royalty free music from the YouTube library
 
MoonRocker said:
Whoever is doing this, stop embarrassing yourself. Nothing will happen to DSP via Twitch and we shouldn't count on it.
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Hassan has given milk, even to a minor extent. I won't advocate further beating of a dead horse but I don't think it was a total waste given how funny it is that he's constantly dancing around stating definitively whether he's done anything for Phil.

Thx for the screencaps, Hassy baby!

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My two cents on Phil/Twitch. Trying to get Phil thrown off of Twitch only helps him. Nobody can do more damage to Phil than Phil himself. Trying to speed things up only makes whoever you're trying to contact more dismissive of the situation. We've seen this with the paypigs themselves. How many times have they stepped up their donations/support in response to something, real or fake, aimed at taking Phil down? With Twitch, I don't exactly expect them to throw extra support at Phil, but if they get a surge of detractor messages who are clearly against Phil, they're more likely to dismiss future reports as part of the previous trolling attempts.

Phil has gotten in trouble with Twitch before, so we know he isn't untouchable. But, when he got in trouble last time, it was through his own dumbass actions. He's also gotten into more trouble than he likes to let on. Assuming he isn't lying, which I admit can be difficult with Phil, he's banned from the bounty system. I've never heard of that happening before, let alone to a partnered streamer. I think it's safe to say this blacklist extends to other Twitch events as well. I follow a few smaller channels that are still invited to do Twitch rivals or participate in whatever front page thing Twitch is up to at the time. The last time I can remember Phil being featured was when it was part of a larger stream compilation, and then his little section was immediately taken down once it was pointed out DSP was on there. Now, that did occur because of people stepping in, but it was much more subdued, just bringing attention to DSP being there. It let Phil's reputation speak for itself, the reputation that he himself tanked and continues to tank.

I'm sure in the early Phil days, it seemed like he'd never lose YouTube's support. Or Machinima. Or Leanna. Or BSV. Or Swaggins. In all those cases, it was ultimately Phil's actions that pushed people away. We've seen it before, Phil finally pushes someone over the edge through their own actions, then said person admits we were right, adding that they didn't want to see it or were inspired by the detractors to turn a blind eye because they didn't want to believe our narrative.

Now, the unfortunate thing is, Phil is a cockroach. All those previous examples often took years and there was frequently some form of bounceback. YouTube was replaced with Twitch, Machinima replaced with being a partner, Leanna replaced with Khet, paypigs replaced with other paypigs. But, even when he bounces back, it isn't as strong as before. Phil seems miserable with Khet, his replacement paypigs aren't able to throw the same level of support as lost paypigs like Tut or E7. For anyone else, this might not be that big of a deal because Phil is still getting a pretty significant amount of support, but one of Phil's biggest problems has always been his inability to adjust. Even with the deck stacked in his favor, Phil keeps ruining things, and while he survives, it starts to take a toll. And that's not even getting into the effect it has on his life in general, his obvious misery, lack of friends etc.

All that being said, if you want to report Phil, go nuts, I guess just be realistic about your expectations. It can lead to new content for sure, and as long as you're not dragging some outsider into the gout sphere, I'd say it is fair game. If you aren't doing it for content and legitimately just want to see something bad happen to Phil, well, I doubt anyone will stop you, but I'd definitely reconsider your method. I know it can be frustrating because there is no denying Phil doesn't deserve this level of success, even if it is a declining success, and it seems unjust he's been able to go this long and likely has, at the very least, a few more years in him. But, on the flip side, this means we'll get several more years worth of Phil content. If the frustration overwhelms the entertainment aspect or you're getting bored/annoyed etc. step back for awhile, then come back when it feels fresher.

And if you do decide to report him, go through the legitimate channels, and make it as unbiased as possible. Provide documentation, just like you would posting here. Don't just report something like "the streamer is grifting people out of money." or even "streamer is saying bits are currency." Provide clips. Don't act outraged, don't pull the "how can you allow this on your platform etc." All that stuff does is weaken the report. Expect it not to really have any overall effect, but who knows, if enough legit reports come in, it might bring in an unbiased staff member who looks at things with a fresh set of eyes. Even then, the odds are super slim of anything happen just because on the best of days Twitch is incredibly lax with rule enforcements and punishments, but at the very least, it has better odds than going after some dude we already know doesn't care/is a fan of Phil.
 
Sparkletor said:
Does anyone remember why Phil started staying up until 4 in the morning?

Answer: Leanna couldn't sleep next to him because he snored too loud.

Okay, okay, lets ignore that. One day of not showering isn't that bad. Slap on some deodorant I guess. Phil goes up to three days without a shower. And he has 'terrible night sweats'. Figure in that the night sweats is due to his body expelling the excess alcohol. Phil probably smells pretty bad.

Oh yeah, the post nasal drip. Gallons of bacteria going down your mouth hole. Bateria emit an odor. The odor goes out your mouth hole. Yes Phil 100% has bad breath. Look up any Post Nasal Drip symptom list. Bad breath. This snoring, sweaty, unbathed pig is also breathing swap gas onto whoever sleeps next to him.

Nah, doods. Kat totally loves this.
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This kinda shit is personally my favorite DSP shit. Like ignoring all shitty personality and scams he’s just the absolute most disgusting human being you’ll ever come across.

Like everything gross in a person is probably him. He’s sweats while he sleeps, snores like a wild animal, doesn’t bathe regularly, is a hair monster, snorts like a pig, almost assuredly has bad breath. Like the dude doesn’t have a single positive aspect to him in terms of physical appearance or hygiene, just an absolute animal.
 
Mr.PiggyOinkOinkOink said:
This kinda shit is personally my favorite DSP shit. Like ignoring all shitty personality and scams he’s just the absolute most disgusting human being you’ll ever come across.

Like everything gross in a person is probably him. He’s sweats while he sleeps, snores like a wild animal, doesn’t bathe regularly, is a hair monster, snorts like a pig, almost assuredly has bad breath. Like the dude doesn’t have a single positive aspect to him in terms of physical appearance or hygiene, just an absolute animal.
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Never really put it in that perspective. His awful personality is enough to put him on the shithead scale. Could go even further past hygiene and extend to his fashion or sense of style.
 
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