Plagued Weeaboos and other Japan spergs

[CheezzyMach]

Given most war films are heavily imbued with politics I think there will be a lot of interest from the ChapoTrapHouse types. Also I don't really understand the distinction you're drawing when a lot of the "woke" nonsense comes from within Hollywood itself; you only have to watch the Oscars to see a load of progressive rhetoric and people wanting to ban guns while being guarded by armed men. When the people making the films are often of this persuasion, the 4Chan distinction between "REEE NORMIES" and autistics is irrelevant.

That makes me wonder how long Hollywood will push this given how unpopular it is.

God do I miss the days when people kept their politics to themselves.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

That makes me wonder how long Hollywood will push this given how unpopular it is.

God do I miss the days when people kept their politics to themselves.

As long as they can get away with it.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Given most war films are heavily imbued with politics I think there will be a lot of interest from the ChapoTrapHouse types. Also I don't really understand the distinction you're drawing when a lot of the "woke" nonsense comes from within Hollywood itself; you only have to watch the Oscars to see a load of progressive rhetoric and people wanting to ban guns while being guarded by armed men. When the people making the films are often of this persuasion, the 4Chan distinction between "REEE NORMIES" and autistics is irrelevant.

True, Hollywood is woke as fuck but the majority of audiences aren't and if more "woke" films keep bombing at the box office, Hollywood will cut their losses and make summer blockbusters that will turn a profit and save their political stuff for the more "Oscar Bait" titles that usually come out in the fall and winter, like they did before "Current Year".

Your average guy on the street isn't going to want to see a war movie that glorifies the Soviet military, even if Chapo Trap House does. They'll gladly see a flashy war movie that glorifies the American military.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

True, Hollywood is woke as fuck but the majority of audiences aren't and if more "woke" films keep bombing at the box office, Hollywood will cut their losses and make summer blockbusters that will turn a profit and save their political stuff for the more "Oscar Bait" titles that usually come out in the fall and winter, like they did before "Current Year".

Your average guy on the street isn't going to want to see a war movie that glorifies the Soviet military, even if Chapo Trap House does. They'll gladly see a flashy war movie that glorifies the American military.

Depends on how it's made. The USSR has been gone long enough that a pro-Soviet war film could sell as long it's not full of excessive soapboxing against capitalism, which would be comically hypocritical given Hollywood's business model. As long as it's not written by the Chapos it could be a major success.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Depends on how it's made. The USSR has been gone long enough that a pro-Soviet war film could sell as long it's not full of excessive soapboxing against capitalism, which would be comically hypocritical given Hollywood's business model. As long as it's not written by the Chapos it could be a major success.

Agreed if it's a World War II movie. Most Americans are familiar with that war and when you're fighting the actual Nazis, it's fairly easy to not have the Red Army be the bad guy, especially if you don't actively promote communism and focus more on the average Red Army soldier than on Stalin or the NKVD.

Anything else from a Soviet perspective would go over poorly with the average moviegoer, and most likely it'd have more to do with the average moviegoer's ignorance of non-American history than the political aspect of it all.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Agreed if it's a World War II movie. Most Americans are familiar with that war and when you're fighting the actual Nazis, it's fairly easy to not have the Red Army be the bad guy, especially if you don't actively promote communism and focus more on the average Red Army soldier than on Stalin or the NKVD.

Anything else from a Soviet perspective would go over poorly with the average moviegoer, and most likely it'd have more to do with the average moviegoer's ignorance of non-American history than the political aspect of it all.

I think it would be possible to make a successful Russian Civil War film. It would be easy to make the Tsarist forces into villains, though in reality there were no heroes in that war. Armoured train combat would make a good cinematic battle scene.

Certainly more likely to succeed than anime at any rate.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I think it would be possible to make a successful Russian Civil War film. It would be easy to make the Tsarist forces into villains, though in reality there were no heroes in that war. Armoured train combat would make a good cinematic battle scene.

Certainly more likely to succeed than anime at any rate.

Among mainstream audiences, you are absolutely correct. But Hollywood's more likely to focus on World War II or American military conflicts if war movies are going to be a dominant trend in mainstream Hollywood culture. That's what sells with the average audience.

Coincidentally, the Russian Civil War and armored train combat could also make for a good anime.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

I think it would be possible to make a successful Russian Civil War film. It would be easy to make the Tsarist forces into villains, though in reality there were no heroes in that war. Armoured train combat would make a good cinematic battle scene.

Certainly more likely to succeed than anime at any rate.

All you have to do is draw from history and show the White Army conducting pogroms. There'll be no choice but to sympathize with the Red Army.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Among mainstream audiences, you are absolutely correct. But Hollywood's more likely to focus on World War II or American military conflicts if war movies are going to be a dominant trend in mainstream Hollywood culture. That's what sells with the average audience.

Coincidentally, the Russian Civil War and armored train combat could also make for a good anime.

In terms of US and British history I'd go for Chosin Reservoir at once. It would get banned in China and serve as a patriotic rally against them - which Hollywood would mostly hate, of course.

From what little I know of the medium, a Russian Civil War anime would mostly revolve around close ups of ridiculously exaggerated facial expressions and over the top voice acting. Closer to so-bad-it's-good than good.

All you have to do is draw from history and show the White Army conducting pogroms. There'll be no choice but to sympathize with the Red Army.

The difference between pro-Red Army and neutral is that a neutral portrayal would show that Bolshevik promises of "land, bread, and peace" were actually a pack of lies intended to dupe the masses into supporting them; leaving this out would give the impression of an honest struggle against the evil White oppressors, and it's easy to imagine the sort of jokes a Chapo would insert about this...

 

[Jihadi Daddy]

Given most war films are heavily imbued with politics I think there will be a lot of interest from the ChapoTrapHouse types. Also I don't really understand the distinction you're drawing when a lot of the "woke" nonsense comes from within Hollywood itself; you only have to watch the Oscars to see a load of progressive rhetoric and people wanting to ban guns while being guarded by armed men. When the people making the films are often of this persuasion, the 4Chan distinction between "REEE NORMIES" and autistics is irrelevant.

Nah dude, the Chapo type will fucking hate war films because they despise anything US Military related.

If anything is to become the next trend, horror would be pretty cool.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Nah dude, the Chapo type will fucking hate war films because they despise anything US Military related.

If anything is to become the next trend, horror would be pretty cool.

Depends on the tone. A lot of films about Vietnam were negative towards the US forces. Bear in mind Oliver Stone who directed Platoon and Born of the 4th of July is a far-leftist who supported Hugo Chavez (though not a full-blown tankie, since he denounced Stalin). Obviously they'll hate anything with American patriotism.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

True, Hollywood is woke as fuck but the majority of audiences aren't and if more "woke" films keep bombing at the box office, Hollywood will cut their losses and make summer blockbusters that will turn a profit and save their political stuff for the more "Oscar Bait" titles that usually come out in the fall and winter, like they did before "Current Year".

Your average guy on the street isn't going to want to see a war movie that glorifies the Soviet military, even if Chapo Trap House does. They'll gladly see a flashy war movie that glorifies the American military.

I'd like to see a good war movie involving Americans stranded in the Eastern Front fighting with a Soviet unit, or something like that

 

[AnOminous]

Your average guy on the street isn't going to want to see a war movie that glorifies the Soviet military, even if Chapo Trap House does. They'll gladly see a flashy war movie that glorifies the American military.

I'd say it would really depend on what was going on in the movie and how it was presented. Das Boot was very well regarded and is about a German U-boat crew.

I think a fully produced movie about the Battle of Stalingrad would be breathtaking, but such a colossal downer that it could never be successful in America and make back its budget.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

I'd say it would really depend on what was going on in the movie and how it was presented. Das Boot was very well regarded and is about a German U-boat crew.

I think a fully produced movie about the Battle of Stalingrad would be breathtaking, but such a colossal downer that it could never be successful in America and make back its budget.

I'd like to see a Stalingrad film as well and I think international viewership would make it viable. Come and See was a mainstream hit in the USSR and a Stalingrad film would still perform well in Europe if it had high production values. Hollywood probably wouldn't take the risk though.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Fixed that for you.

I don't think war films will be popular among the woke crowd, but rather the normies. Capeshit movies are probably the one area where normies and SJW's nearly get along (excluding Joker, which doesn't really count as capeshit other than in name) because it's the main Hollywood trend and it gives your ordinary folks something to watch on a Saturday night in the summer.

Something tells me that a lot of the remaining SJW's will still be clinging to capeshit even after the fad dies out. This is the same crowd that never moved on from reading Harry Potter, after all.

The normies will probably move onto the next big Hollywood trend (probably horror, maybe war films) and the geeks will probably move onto some other form of sci-fi and maybe another anime resurgence as well.

Was it Dunkirk where people were complaining where was the Indians soldiers. Anyways the worst case of woke folk fucking with war history has to be battlefield 5. I remember reading later on that battlefield 1 dodged that bullet. Maybe bringing back mandatory 2 year military service will solve the woke problem or a strong willed commie like Uncle Joe. I do like watching the Russian war movies like White Tiger and Sevastopol.

 

[snailslime]

weeaboos or koreaboos?

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Was it Dunkirk where people were complaining where was the Indians soldiers. Anyways the worst case of woke folk fucking with war history has to be battlefield 5. I remember reading later on that battlefield 1 dodged that bullet. Maybe bringing back mandatory 2 year military service will solve the woke problem or a strong willed commie like Uncle Joe. I do like watching the Russian war movies like White Tiger and Sevastopol.

There were African and Indian colonial soldiers at Dunkirk. That's historical accuracy, not woke revisionism. As I recall the Battlefield nonsense was about having women soldiers fighting at D-Day or something equally ridiculous. I don't think any mainstream war film would ever do something that stupid though.

 

[Dave.]

weeaboos or koreaboos?

Singaporeaboos. Getting arrested and caned is my favorite kink.

 

[MrJokerRager]

There were African and Indian colonial soldiers at Dunkirk. That's historical accuracy, not woke revisionism. As I recall the Battlefield nonsense was about having women soldiers fighting at D-Day or something equally ridiculous. I don't think any mainstream war film would ever do something that stupid though.

There was enemy at the gates where they show soviet solders holding just bullet clips in their hands getting mowed down by mg34s. They asked soviet veterans about it and they hated it. Also would go on to read once they opened the soviet archives that showed soviet soldiers were willing to kill nazis and communist leaders would lead the charges. Only reason we have the soviet zerg rush meme is cause when they interviewed the Wehrmacht generals that they didn't want to give credit to the russians and made up a lot of stuff about their tactics combined with the Soviets not opening up their archives till I think about 3 or 4 years ago about Stalingrad and the rest. too lazy right now to get my sources about all this.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

weeaboos or koreaboos?

They both cream themselves over media that's pretty goddamn exploitative for the people who make it, so it's only a question of which one is worse.