Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

verissimus said:
...jesus christ. Are the shills who are going to defend this crap forcing us to enter the territory of movies becoming like games where we have to essentially pay for DLC that should be in the movie ffs.
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Forcing, present tense implies that they're only starting to do it now. They've been pulling this shit since TFA came out, it's just getting more and more blatant now.
 
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Iceland Heavy said:
Forcing, present tense implies that they're only starting to do it now. They've been pulling this shit since TFA came out, it's just getting more and more blatant now.
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YUP

The TFA had a bunch of shitty tie in novels that explained how the Empire went from losing its C2 node in one battle to being the preeminent military force in 30 years. Because fuck making a believable or coherent narrative when we can squeeze more shekels from naive bugmen
 
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I don't get why people are getting worked up over Maz Kanada, the worst character from the worst trilogy. Oh, but where did she find Luke's lightsaber, you ask? Considering that the lightsaber was in a box of junk and Maz is an old lady, I'm guessing she went to an auction, bought a couple of box lots, and then shoved what she didn't want from those lots in her basement. You know, as old ladies are wont to do. Like do you know how much fucking garbage old ladies accumulate? Tons of it, and they're always trying to dump it on their children like its valuable. No, grandma, its junk. Its not worth anything! Throw it out! But no, grandma's gonna hold onto that shit until she dies because she was raised in the depression and she ain't tossing anything.
 
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There are a number of problems here, not the least of which is the speeder changing shape between panels;

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Jaimas said:
Why every franchise that was once successful, barring a few stubborn holdouts (Bill and Ted, Rambo, etc) is getting fucked this way - having their original concepts and characters cinematically vandalized and ruined before all their underlying concepts are violated one after another until every trace of good in a given franchise is gone. These movies all economically bomb, even in China which has become Hollywood's main market, and surely, a business is in it to make money.
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We must be on the same page; I opined something similar over in the Rebooted She-Ra thread. Quoting myself from there:
Kiwi Lime Pie said:
I think that's one of the more frustrating things about these rebooted franchises. Instead of taking what worked from the original and working to find ways to improve or building on those elements, today's writers seem more interested in destroying the very essence of the original franchise and totally re-imagining it to suit their own fancies. That's dangerous because fans of the original may feel alienated if they discover the new version has practically nothing in common with the original and has taken anything they liked about the original and written it off for being "too problematic" for today's audiences.
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Jaimas said:
It's like they've stopped trying to make money with these things and are focusing entirely on trying to drag anything that could possibly give people something to care about into the streets so it can be sacrificed on the altar of shitty media, knowing full well that it's going to fail just so they can have the pleasure of destroying it.
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To be fair, they either think or convince themselves they can make plenty of money with these woke reboots. Unfortunately, they aren't looking at the bigger picture. Yes, there is a decent number of US-based moviegoers that will watch Woke Wars and any other reboot made with a modern-day SJW emphasis. What's being overlooked or ignored is the fact that social justice isn't as popular worldwide and that it's even despised in certain regions of the globe. As a result, movies that focus more on wokeness and less on story-telling and entertainment fail miserably in these locations. In their myopic worldview, however, something that is successful in the US just has to be as liked and successful everywhere else. If it's not, it just has to be because of one or more groups of haters conspiring against them and not because they produced content that was either poorly-received or flat-out disliked by viewers.
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Kiwi Lime Pie said:
To be fair, they either think or convince themselves they can make plenty of money with these woke reboots. Unfortunately, they aren't looking at the bigger picture. Yes, there is a decent number of US-based moviegoers that will watch Woke Wars and any other reboot made with a modern-day SJW emphasis. What it being overlooked or ignored is the fact that social justice isn't as popular worldwide, and that it's even despised in certain regions of the globe. As a result movies that focus more on wokeness and less on story-telling and entertainment fail miserably in these locations. In their myopic worldview, however, something that is successful in the US just has to be as liked and successful everywhere else. If it's not, it just has to be because of one or more groups of haters conspiring against them and not because they produced content that was either poorly-received or flat-out disliked by viewers.
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True, but even in the United States, wokeness isn't really popular outside of college campuses and certain coastal metro areas. In fact, I'd say the American public's interest in woke media is declining even more throughout 2019 and it will likely fall further out of favor in the 2020's.

Ghostbusters 2016 was a box office bomb, but that could be chalked up to bad writing and the fact that Ghostbusters is a fairly old IP that hadn't really been prevalent in the public consciousness since the late 80's (that one video game aside) so I could see why Holltywood thought they could triple down on wokeshit.

Now it's killing major perennial franchises like Star Trek, Terminator, and now Star Wars. The only woke franchise that is still going strong is the MCU, and that's primed for a major collapse in the coming years now that Endgame is over and done with.
 
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Trig.Point said:
Memology has just done a video, covering Rian Johnson's hope that he'll find the time to do for the TV show what he did for the movies.

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Syaoran Li said:
Ghostbusters 2016 was a box office bomb, but that could be chalked up to bad writing and the fact that Ghostbusters is a fairly old IP that hadn't really been prevalent in the public consciousness since the late 80's (that one video game aside) so I could see why Holltywood thought they could triple down on wokeshit..
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Ghostbusters is a good comparison to make, but also consider Annihilation, Alex Garland's Sci Fi film from 2018. 4 female leads, yet it wasn't remarked upon in the film. Only in scenes where they're having a drink before going into the anomaly. A really great film, and nobody involved in it felt the need to play the girlpower card.
 
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Syaoran Li said:
True, but even in the United States, wokeness isn't really popular outside of college campuses and certain coastal metro areas. In fact, I'd say the American public's interest in woke media is declining even more throughout 2019 and it will likely fall further out of favor in the 2020's.

Ghostbusters 2016 was a box office bomb, but that could be chalked up to bad writing and the fact that Ghostbusters is a fairly old IP that hadn't really been prevalent in the public consciousness since the late 80's (that one video game aside) so I could see why Holltywood thought they could triple down on wokeshit.

Now it's killing major perennial franchises like Star Trek, Terminator, and now Star Wars. The only woke franchise that is still going strong is the MCU, and that's primed for a major collapse in the coming years now that Endgame is over and done with.
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Well 80% of the country hates political correctness last I heard.

TBF the MCU didn't get woke until fairly recently.
 
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Gehenna said:
God I hate this poster. Lets break it down from a visual standpoint.
1: Leading Lines are FUCKED. A good picture uses hard lines to guide your eyes along it naturally. This one though... You start at the bright spot on Rey's lightsaber and move down, then hits Ren's lightsaber. All good? NOPE! Cause...
2: Framing. Framing, along with Leading Lines, sets up what the viewer is going to see. The framing is Rey's lightsaber and the exhaust of the Falcon, and Kylo's lightsbaer and the red stormtroopers. This means that,
3: EVERYTHING IMPORTANT IS NOT SEEN. The framing and lines mean you will first see that ugly as fuck alien, then finn, then 3PO, glance right over Ren (His light on his helmet causes you to visually consider it PART of the frame,then hit Poe, and the mystery woman. Your eye naturally travels down to the stuff outlined in red so you see the Stormtrooper with the oversized helmet and some tie fighters. Your eye is not naturely drawn to ANYTHING else.

Rey, Ren, and the Knights of Ren are ALL out of frame. They become visual background noise you have to deliberately look at to see anything.
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Finn and Finn's sister are like this so they can easily be removed for the Chinese Audience. Also see how there is NO rose tico? She's gone too.....there goes our strong brave asian woman relegated back to engineering.

The Pink Panther said:
Who the fuck tends to refer themselves as "herself" sometimes?
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People with mental illness'.
 
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Reverend said:
Finn and Finn's sister are like this so they can easily be removed for the Chinese Audience. Also see how there is NO rose tico? She's gone too.....there goes our strong brave asian woman relegated back to engineering.
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Chinamen trump the Soy demographics in the Rat's mind.

Hilarious they're trying to two time both though and getting neither.
 
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Suburban Bastard said:
HAHAHA were they threatening his family or some shit lmao! This is just so fucking pathetic, there's no way this timing can be a coincidence, Disney continues to dig to new undiscovered levels of desperation.
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I honestly think they might be holding yet another old man hostage via hospice/care giving, since this echoes Stan Lee's own captivity time where he backed a lot of woke shit too until he was freed from it.

The Rat doesn't fucking care about the dead's dignity given what they did to Cushing and Fisher, so why should they care about the living?
 
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RomanesEuntDomus said:
If these secret Skylwalker rumors are true, the trilogy is fucked.
Either, Rey is upstaged by some newcomer that happens to be a Skywalker and it invalidates her character or she is the Skywalker and it invalidates the precious TLJ theeeeeeeme of killing the past.
No matter how they'd do it, it would be a blatant and desperate attempt to recover some old fans and I hope they'll see right through it. The title of the movie alone makes me laugh.
"Rise of Skywalker", might as well have called it "Please come back old fans!"


Also: when your soldiers know why they do what they do, they can adapt their own strategies to the situation, should it change. If all they know is to go somewhere and be ordered around like robots every step of the way, the moment they have to actually react to a new situation, they are unable to fulfill their duty until they have communicated that new situation to their higher-ups.
Say, you have soldiers that are tasked with taking a hill to capture their enemy's radio communication equippement, if they only know that they are supposed to take the hill, that's all they are going to do.
If they know they are supposed to capture the radio equippement and halfway through their mission, they realize the enemy has relocated said equippement, they can actually react to that immediately instead of assaulting a now useless position on a hill.
And when your soldiers start begging you for answers, the worst thing to do is to blow them off.

But here's the funny thing: This is how SJWs think a hierarchy functions.
You have your higher-ups and they can do whatever the fuck they want to (including physical violence against their subordinates!) and they never have to explain or justify themselves to anyone below themselves.
They are unconditional, supreme rulers, above being questioned and not bound by rules. Everyone else has to scramble, to fulfill their wishes without delay. No one has the right to interfere or even just ask anything.
This isn't how SJWs perceive the military. This is how SJWs work within their own group, so they think every hierarchy works this way.
Unsurprisingly, that's how any dictatorial government has treated a hierarchy, too.


So you're mad at the franchise for your own headcanon. Okay I guess.


Saying they kidnap children makes it sound as if Jedi were traveling around in an old cargo freighter with "Free Candy" written in Aurebesh on the side.

If they go to the parents, explain to them why it is necessary that their kid gets special education (I mean, an unsupervised Force user is dangerous after all - and could become a huge threat to a lot of people in the long run) and the parents agree ... well that's not kidnapping. Sure, the parents are going to be sad that they won't be seeing their children again, but it's still not kidnapping.
The fact that the EU has conflicts between Jedi that actually abduct children and Jedi who think that's a dick move should highlight that kidnapping was not their regular MO.
But the original point is, that this is seen as morally good. Which it isn't. It's part of the Jedi hubris that leads to their downfall. It is not seen as "morally good". It is seen as "pragmatically necessary".
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Yeah Jedis really became yet again too pragmaticlly willing to do "necessarily evil" over being good, too involved in propping up a corrupt entity and pratically becoming isolated and aloof, did not help that by the time of TPM they received exclusive rights (if i remember correctly) that made their involvement even more likely to happen. Dooku methods were from flawed to evil but he did have points that were right, we don't even have a potentially understable and sympathetic at times point of view in Woke Wars, everything so ridiculous it's a waste of time
 
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