Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[UnKillFill]

Well, here's a thing.

My favorite bit was the part where Anakin's mom definitely had breast cancer.

 

[Ghostse]

The problem with Star Wars is not the fans, it's the creators actively listening to the fans. George listened to the fans. Star Wars fans bitched and moaned that they wanted more fucking worldbuilding, because the OT didn't do much of that. Well you got fucking worldbuilding with the prequels. Trade disputes and all. DisneyWars is the same sort of response, just to a different side of the fandom, as shallow and as insincere as that side is, they still are, at least nominally part of it. So we got ANH2, electric Boogaloo. Fans complained, TOO MUCH LIKE EP4. Ok, here's RJ making Empire but backwards in the hope that nobody would notice. Fans complain, TOO SHIT.
Meanwhile, the secondary canon has always had better stories, movies, and TV shows because for the most part it doesn't give a shit about what the fans want.

The problem with Didney Waz isn't that they are listening to fans. The problem is they are trying to suck in that ellusive Millenial dollar, and to do that they are relying on Twitter to tell them what the fans they want to attract want. This is the source of woke culture infiltrating everything, companies think Twitter & Facebook actually represent the majority and not a screeching minority.

To tl;dr on this, the boiling frog analogy isn't wrong, where slowly introducing fags, niggers, and owning Xtians did more good than harm - you had some back lash by a minority, but mostly it was innoculous so the majority didn't care - so obviously twitter is correct. This combined with, principally, new college graduates work for nothing and are the wokest population lead to everything going full social justice, well beyond what normal people will accept.

Add to this studios are trying too hard to force things, and not let them happen organically.


Lets consider the Mandalorian and Baby Yoda. The question that must be asked: Why the fuck are there not Baby Yoda plushies on the stores RIGHT NOW. Anyone could look at the character and tell you that's going to be merch gold. But the show has avoided the worst of the studio meddling. No one said "lets make baby yoda toyetic".

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I think it's no contest: The Prequels are objectively a better story than the Sequels.

The Prequels aren't good movies, of course ... But at least it's a cohesive trilogy.

 

[Muttnik]

The Prequels also had the promise that a GOOD trilogy was just ahead of them with the OT. It didn't immediately invalidate everything like the Sequel trilogy did, nor did it take beloved characters and turn them into asshole failures/heartlessly kill them off.

There's actually a ton of good shit in the Prequels underneath the layers of bad decisions. There's quotes, iconic images and set-pieces, set up for drama, campy lovable performances, fun battle and action sequences, a level of unpredictability, and lots more. With the exception of MAYBE Sith, they're not good movies. But they're fun movies and they have some value at the end of the day.

The Sequel Trilogy has nothing. It's so calculatingly commercial and condescending. It talks DOWN to the audience.

 

[Zap Rowsdower]

Lets consider the Mandalorian and Baby Yoda. The question that must be asked: Why the fuck are there not Baby Yoda plushies on the stores RIGHT NOW. Anyone could look at the character and tell you that's going to be merch gold. But the show has avoided the worst of the studio meddling. No one said "lets make baby yoda toyetic".

I actually thought about this, and in fairness, what would you even call them. "Baby Yoda", while cute, is inaccurate, and dropping the real name now may or may not spoil Mandalorian. Hell, they can't even name the species until the series is over.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

After watching the prequels again for the first time in years with some friends:

1. The first was somehow even more boring than I remembered (Trade Negotiations! I think everyone stopped paying attention 40 or so minutes in)
2. The second was actually hilarious with the school shooter vibe Anakin kept giving off during the 'romance' scenes
3. The third was good tbh and in hindsight was probably weighed down by the first two films; Palpatine was glorious ham throughout and made the movie.

 

[Zaryiu]

Big Bang Theory is the cancer that spread into the nerd/geek culture and infected it from within and spread without check. Any episode of that show is literally cringe for me to watch it. I hate it so much and all the cunts that ape that mentality who are nuthugging all over any shit Sheldon does.

If they did a BBT+Star Wars cross over I would sign off the internet as that would be insufferable beyond words.



Table Top RPG's and Miniature War Gaming. Already they are infecting Games Workshop and we've already kissed off WOTC and Paizo in the RPG industry as too far gone to save.

Paizo was destined to fall since wokeness was there from the start (the first book about Darkmoon Vale had the gay halfling judge, it was minor compared to shit they pulled later on but it still was unnecessary)

 

[Jaimas]

The problem with Didney Waz isn't that they are listening to fans. The problem is they are trying to suck in that ellusive Millenial dollar, and to do that they are relying on Twitter to tell them what the fans they want to attract want. This is the source of woke culture infiltrating everything, companies think Twitter & Facebook actually represent the majority and not a screeching minority.

To tl;dr on this, the boiling frog analogy isn't wrong, where slowly introducing fags, niggers, and owning Xtians did more good than harm - you had some back lash by a minority, but mostly it was innoculous so the majority didn't care - so obviously twitter is correct. This combined with, principally, new college graduates work for nothing and are the wokest population lead to everything going full social justice, well beyond what normal people will accept.

Add to this studios are trying too hard to force things, and not let them happen organically.

One would think the last few massive failures would indicate that the elusive Millenial dollar does not exist.

One would be wrong.

Table Top RPG's and Miniature War Gaming. Already they are infecting Games Workshop and we've already kissed off WOTC and Paizo in the RPG industry as too far gone to save.

They brought it on themselves. At the heart of every Social Justice infestation is one thirsty cuck who gave in too much.

 

[Ghostse]

One would think the last few massive failures would indicate that the elusive Millenial dollar does not exist.

One would be wrong.

Part of it is inertia.
Hollywood doesn't react very well or very quickly for the most part. There are a lot of reasons for this; it took TLJ & Solo tanking, and R1 under-performing, before Iger took notice of what was going on with SW. That's to say nothing of the books, comics, and merch not moving, to say nothign of Galaxy's Edge.

The other part, that goes hand-and-hand with inertia, is both being completely divorced from reality and falling victim to their own shady accounting practices.
As I said before, do you really think Iger actually watched the DisneySW films, let alone the OT & PT? They gave one of the films to Rian Johnson, who by his own account watched them and hated them.

 

[CheezzyMach]

The Prequels also had the promise that a GOOD trilogy was just ahead of them with the OT. It didn't immediately invalidate everything like the Sequel trilogy did, nor did it take beloved characters and turn them into asshole failures/heartlessly kill them off.

There's actually a ton of good shit in the Prequels underneath the layers of bad decisions. There's quotes, iconic images and set-pieces, set up for drama, campy lovable performances, fun battle and action sequences, a level of unpredictability, and lots more. With the exception of MAYBE Sith, they're not good movies. But they're fun movies and they have some value at the end of the day.

The Sequel Trilogy has nothing. It's so calculatingly commercial and condescending. It talks DOWN to the audience.

Eh, there were plenty of spergs back in the day who said TPM and AOTC ruined Darth Vader because of how shitty Anakin was portrayed in those movies.

Part of it is inertia.
Hollywood doesn't react very well or very quickly for the most part. There are a lot of reasons for this; it took TLJ & Solo tanking, and R1 under-performing, before Iger took notice of what was going on with SW. That's to say nothing of the books, comics, and merch not moving, to say nothign of Galaxy's Edge.

The other part, that goes hand-and-hand with inertia, is both being completely divorced from reality and falling victim to their own shady accounting practices.
As I said before, do you really think Iger actually watched the DisneySW films, let alone the OT & PT? They gave one of the films to Rian Johnson, who by his own account watched them and hated them.

What? then why the hell did he agree to do 4 freaking films for Disney?

 

[Jaimas]

Part of it is inertia.
Hollywood doesn't react very well or very quickly for the most part. There are a lot of reasons for this; it took TLJ & Solo tanking, and R1 under-performing, before Iger took notice of what was going on with SW. That's to say nothing of the books, comics, and merch not moving, to say nothign of Galaxy's Edge.

The other part, that goes hand-and-hand with inertia, is both being completely divorced from reality and falling victim to their own shady accounting practices.
As I said before, do you really think Iger actually watched the DisneySW films, let alone the OT & PT? They gave one of the films to Rian Johnson, who by his own account watched them and hated them.

That makes no sense.

Not that it isn't a possibility, mind, but the more logical explanation tends to be the correct one, and the more logical explanation is that Iger was on-board with this shit-show pushing identity politics and insulting the fans from the start. There is no way in hell any company would lose as much money from this as Disney did over three fucking movies and not have sent staff to the gallows in response otherwise.

 

[Zaryiu]

Fuck.

Disney Developing New Live-Action Dragon Ball Movie With Asian Cast

Disney is reportedly in the early stages of developing a new live-action Dragon Ball movie and the big-budget film is set to feature a fully Asian cast.

wegotthiscovered.com

RIP DBZ.

*Incoherent, unhinged rage-filled rant goes*
HHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEE YOU DISNEY YOU MOTHERFUCKERS, STOP RUINING EVERYTHING I LIKE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER YOU FUCKS! SSeriously how do manage to keep getting worse?! Just stop! (Sorry for the MODI reaction but i really like the series (i have been a for less than 5 years) and i snapped seeing that)

 

[ZMOT]

not have sent staff to the gallows in response otherwise.

dat's sexist tho. imagine the peter principle but now you can't say "sorry bob, you fucked up, we gotta let you go", instead in current year tinkerbell twilight (formerly bob) is blowing her oppression whistle all the way to HR.
and that's if he even got the real numbers and not some creative bookkeeping by another diversity hire. once the rot sets in you can find it everywhere.

*Incoherent, unhinged rage-filled rant goes*
HHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEE YOU DISNEY YOU MOTHERFUCKERS, STOP RUINING EVERYTHING I LIKE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER YOU FUCKS! SSeriously how do manage to keep getting worse?! Just stop! (Sorry for the MODI reaction but i really like the series (i have been a for less than 5 years) and i snapped seeing that)

meanwhile

https://variety.com/2017/film/news/j-j-abrams-your-name-remake-paramount-1202574994/

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

That makes no sense.

Not that it isn't a possibility, mind, but the more logical explanation tends to be the correct one, and the more logical explanation is that Iger was on-board with this shit-show pushing identity politics and insulting the fans from the start. There is no way in hell any company would lose as much money from this as Disney did over three fucking movies and not have sent staff to the gallows in response otherwise.

Well, we'd have to accept that Iger's TDS and hatred of white males is so bad, that he's willing to sink a multi-billion dollar franchise just to stick it to the people he ideologically disagrees with. Which seems insane, until you remember all of the other male-targeted franchises that have been wokeified into irrelevance recently. At some point, these people have GOT to run out of money to lose. Y'd think.

 

[verissimus]

dat's sexist tho. imagine the peter principle but now you can't say "sorry bob, you fucked up, we gotta let you go", instead in current year tinkerbell twilight (formerly bob) is blowing her oppression whistle all the way to HR.
and that's if he even got the real numbers and not some creative bookkeeping by another diversity hire. once the rot sets in you can find it everywhere.



meanwhile

https://variety.com/2017/film/news/j-j-abrams-your-name-remake-paramount-1202574994/

Now they want him to ruin anime too? FFS, what won't these people allow him to ruin? And why even this? I try to keep up a bit with the world of anime, and I've never heard of this title. And if I've never heard of this title, then there's no way casual movie goers have either. So why would they want to see this adaptation then? I mean, at least people had heard of Alita (another title I didn't know about before) or GitS (a title I definitely know of), but this?

Also, wth kind of world is this where JJ gets to adapt some anime before Spielberg (supposedly he wanted to do something with the Robotech/Macross Franchise which I think might have been pretty cool)? Just disgusting.

Edit : A few pretty good comments in there. I actually kind of like this one though I deeply wish JJ have no part of it..

"If they do not want a white washed film, the live action adaptation they should be doing is Howl’s Moving Castle, but I guess Disney has the rights to do that and they will probably sit on it until it turns to dust."

That could actually be a pretty fun movie. Granted the original is more than fine.

Edit 2 : Also why tf is JJ and his crew almost always in talks and/or have things stacked for them like clockwork? Wtf Hollywood. You mean to tell me you don't have anyone else to turn to but that pos hack? What ever happened to getting more "diverse" directors? Hek, you could have just had an anime director from Japan work with JJ who could have served as the producer, but no. JJ has to be the one at the helm. Goddamn you Hollywood.

 

[Jaimas]

Edit 2 : Also why tf is JJ and his crew almost always in talks and/or have things stacked like clockwork? Wtf Hollywood. You mean to tell me you don't have anyone else to turn to but that pos hack? What ever happened to getting more "diverse" directors? Hek, you could have just had an anime director from Japan work with JJ who could have served as the producer, but no. JJ has to be the one at the helm. Goddamn you Hollywood.

If popular chant is to be believed, Abrams is a fucking hack and works for jack shit.

 

[Übertroon]

It also helps that JJ is one of the most well connected people in hollywood, that nose of his is a testament to his family pedigree

 

[Uranus Pink]

Jews including Bob Iger gotta stick together to fuck over the goyim including their entertainment.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

There's such a disconnect between Star Wars series and movies. The series are given out to semi-randoms who make amazing shit with nothing, whereas being given everything, hacks like Rian create a 90 min car chase.

Star Wars is my preferred universe of all the nerd shit, but I feel bad even stating so. Omg kylo ren so dreamy sugoi sasuke san Stacy's are the only ones I see preferring it to Harry Potter or whatever.

The faster ep 9 is out and makes a mockery of the Chosen One arc, the faster better shit can get funding.

 

[JohnDoe]

It also helps that JJ is one of the most well connected people in hollywood, that nose of his is a testament to his family pedigree

An absolutely terrible filmmaker, but apparently a savvy business gem. Every time he wedges himself into a property he finds a way to siphon massive amounts of cash to himself and his company. That was why some things went so weird with Star Trek, he tried to gut them too hard and demanded that CBS stop selling the OG TV merch because that cash wouldn't go into JJ's pockets.