Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Hatoful Dandy]

Jews including Bob Iger gotta stick together to fuck over the goyim including their entertainment.

Not when they can potentially gut each other like a fish, as per that infamous Haim Saban/Avi Arad/Gene Simmons story...

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

An absolutely terrible filmmaker, but apparently a savvy business gem. Every time he wedges himself into a property he finds a way to siphon massive amounts of cash to himself and his company. That was why some things went so weird with Star Trek, he tried to gut them too hard and demanded that CBS stop selling the OG TV merch because that cash wouldn't go into JJ's pockets.

And thats a part of why current Star Wars is the way it is. So Bad Robot gets a merch cut

 

[Reverend]

And thats a part of why current Star Wars is the way it is. So Bad Robot gets a merch cut

Then why make shitty movies that don't push your merch? This seems counter productive to the narrative. Make a shitty movie, merch doesn't move, your rights amount to jack shit.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Then why make shitty movies that don't push your merch? This seems counter productive to the narrative. Make a shitty movie, merch doesn't move, your rights amount to jack shit.

But making good movies wouldn't enable JJ to get a cut of "Red Armed" 3po and "Sith Eyes" 3po

when has JJ made a NEW or Iconic character people liked?

BB8...thats literally it

 

[ZMOT]

Which seems insane, until you remember all of the other male-targeted franchises that have been wokeified into irrelevance recently. At some point, these people have GOT to run out of money to lose. Y'd think.

I was thinking about posting about that earlier regarding ghostbusters but dropped it. anyway, here it is: if you look closely a lot of shit isn't even that "woke". it certainly doesn't cram a tranny down your throat, the closest you'll get is changing it into a female protagonist, probably ugly to not trigger womyn and put in more blacks - which in itself isn't anything new, else we never would've gotten ripley and having a token negro was a running joke in the 90s.
the real woke thing that is the downfall of all those trainwrecks is that the people in charge are fucking incompetent. the only reason they are able to shit up those franchises is because it's not about their ability, but what they spout on twitter, so the end up in those positions thinking they're hot shit (disney would never hire someone without talent to write official star wars novels, right? must the the kids that are wrong!). you can't also expect those same people being aware of their own shortcomings, else they'd know better and decline or try to step up to the challenge. so you get a lot of blended diarrhea that's worse than highschool fanfiction because those people simply don't know better and don't have the talent. they actually think what they write and shit out is good, and literally no one is saying otherwise, except those toxic fans rightfully livid you keep shitting on their stuff.

take ghostbusters for example. besides exchanging a male cast for a female one and make the male guy an idiot (but hot) there isn't anything woke in it. you can say what you want, but on paper the cast should have been more than able to do it and stupid males isn't anything new (see tully). except the script was utter shit, and then feig hardly used any of it - but not to improve it but let everyone adlib and improv. what might work in the movies he usually does (and which did make money, so there is an audience for that) but is fucking stupid for a movie like ghostbusters; don't get me wrong, murray & co probably added a lot of shit by themselves, but it was a) fitting and b) filtered by reitman/ramis/akroyd. the basic idea if you take out all the retarded shit of them trying to be funny and everybody being venkman isn't actually bad - just executed absolutely abysmal poorly.
the same can be said for a lot of franchises that got driven into the ground - the basic idea is sound, and competent people could pull it off, probably easy since the layout isn't usually that complex or unrealistic.

which brings us back to star wars - jarjar has a lot of fans, didn't even fucking RLM wanted him to do it? he also makes a lot of money, so why wouldn't you hire him to spearhead your shit? even that twat ruin roundhead had people saying he did good work previously. so again on paper there shouldn't be anything wrong getting those clowns to do their shit with your material. except for some reason they were not only allowed to do it, they were given carte blanche with zero oversight, and if there was they still got the go-ahead. you have to wonder why no one said "this is stupid" or "he doesn't really fit what we're trying to do" before getting hired etc. that's the real "get woke go broke"

/rant

I try to keep up a bit with the world of anime, and I've never heard of this title.

wait, what? you haven't heard of the second highest crossing anime worldwide almost dethroning spirited away? go watch that shit right now and then let the hatred flow through you thinking what jarjar will do with it (latest news is that it's changed into a native american girl and iirc a boy from chicago).

 

[The handsome tard]

The prequels had a concept plot that was quite great and expanded on what was established in the OT, it needed some re writes in my opinion but the plot as a whole was damn fine to me. I think the good stuff in them aged like wine. The problem is that the prequels didnt meet with the astronomical expectation set by the OT, it took disney to pull Star Wars off from grace for us to truly see the prequels were decent in their own right.
Long story short, the prequels were "bad" for the standarts of pre disney star wars, they are good under those of post disney because they had actual passion and talent in them while the sequeld couldnt even have that.

HONK HONK

Only in Clown World someone can identify as genderfluid at 82 years old and not be suspected to have some form of Alzheimers or Dementia.

Lando's a total pimp and bro. Billy is the man who cucked himself.

Dooku methods were from flawed to evil but he did have points that were right, we don't even have a potentially understable and sympathetic at times point of view in Woke Wars, everything so ridiculous it's a waste of time

Dooku saw the true cowardness and hypocrisy of the jedi when his apprentice/son figure Qui-Gon was killed when he should have had more helping him than just a padawan. The jedi didnt take the naboo crisis seriously, just like the god damn republic. He always had his problems with the order bus Qui-Gon's death is what broke his faith in the order and republic. Now I think he lost his way when he joined with Sideous but he still seemed to hope deep down the jedi would wake up to reality before order 66 (or at least Obi-Wan would, since he saw him as a grand son of sorts), why you think he pretty much spilled the beans to Obi wan about sideous being in control of the senate? He was testing him to see if he would bother to not be arrogant and investigate, he didnt and the order paic dearly for it. He wanted the Jedi to be more pro active to prevent wars so they would need to get involved in them, hence why he actually knew more offensive tecniques. It took Anakin in his physical battle hardened prime to finally get the upperhand. Dooku is a tragic figure, he wanted to learn with sideous to get the upperhand on him, lost his way and then his head...the creepy part is that he felt his death coming through the force so he didnt even bother saying anything before getting decapitated...
Oh and he was played by the legendary late Christopher Lee, just wanted to say that.

Its doing as well as Murder on the Orient Express from a few years back. $25 million opening leading to a $100 mil. total domestic take. Even at $100 million it would be a solid hit, but add in the foreign box office and its a smashing success.

Welp, that wont feed into his fat ego at all,
In hollywood, you fail upwards

Ive been playing that new fangled Jedi fallen order game that the demon EA shat out. Its actually not bad, one of the better star wars games even. Its a metroidvania with its combat kinda apeing dark souls but at the same time not really.

Its decent but in current star wars that looks like a fucking diamond...
I may buy it when its heavily discounted, maybe...

I thought I Am Legend was a hit?

I know there was talk of making a prequel once.

They say the prequel/sequel is still happening, its just stuck in developtment hell.

If he stays away from writing it, sure. Ozymandias was really good.

You gotta consider a lot of other factors made that episode good, not just Rian himself. It was probably forced to follow a set of plot beats, like THIS has to happen in a way it makes rational sense, so he was seriously kept under control so he wouldnt derail the entire thing...
With ep8, he was given unlimited power and the rest is history...
Rian can "work" under a heavy leash. Thats the only way.
So its both his and Kathy's fault we are where we are.

 

[Reverend]

But making good movies wouldn't enable JJ to get a cut of "Red Armed" 3po and "Sith Eyes" 3po

when has JJ made a NEW or Iconic character people liked?

BB8...thats literally it

I keep on wondering why JarJar is taking the short term gain instead of the long term. I would LOVE to sit in the meeting where they are discussing merchandise and to get number on items sold over the last 2 movies vs prequels. With no toy stores to stock their merch the landfill must be stock full of shitty rose tico figures and it'll be the same way with "Baboon Face Finn" and "Raging Roaring Rey" being tossed into the shredders.

 

[Flexo]

Didn't see anybody post this but apparently even SNL is doing JJ jokes.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I keep on wondering why JarJar is taking the short term gain instead of the long term. I would LOVE to sit in the meeting where they are discussing merchandise and to get number on items sold over the last 2 movies vs prequels. With no toy stores to stock their merch the landfill must be stock full of shitty rose tico figures and it'll be the same way with "Baboon Face Finn" and "Raging Roaring Rey" being tossed into the shredders.

He gets a front end/back deal. He makes a fee on all of his characters being made then makes money on the sales or reuse of those characters in perpetuity

Think about all the books, comics, and videyah they've been in

 

[Reverend]

He gets a front end/back deal. He makes a fee on all of his characters being made then makes money on the sales or reuse of those characters in perpetuity

Think about all the books, comics, and videyah they've been in

You are telling me he got a Lucas style deal for these movies and their merch? Iger must have a legion of KK pinups to throw explosive darts at for that shit.

Comic books aren't selling, no one is playing his characters in any upcoming video games (First Order has none of the current crop in it), and even the TV Shows are staying far as fuck from all these new toons. If he just gets a flat fee on the licensing and no % of items sold then JJ's a genius.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

I wonder how Fallen Order is doing commercially.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

You are telling me he got a Lucas style deal for these movies and their merch? Iger must have a legion of KK pinups to throw explosive darts at for that shit.

Comic books aren't selling, no one is playing his characters in any upcoming video games (First Order has none of the current crop in it), and even the TV Shows are staying far as fuck from all these new toons. If he just gets a flat fee on the licensing and no % of items sold then JJ's a genius.

He has a better deal then Lucas

He gets a Sub license of the core brand license and incentives the brand holder (Paramount/Disney) to prioritize the sub license

He gets front loaded payments any time IP from his sub license is used and back end payments when [if ever] those things become popular

So JJ makes a profit even if none of his ideas ever sell

 

[Dom Cruise]

They say the prequel/sequel is still happening, its just stuck in developtment hell.

Good gravy, almost nobody remembers that movie 12 years later, I certainly wouldn't greenlight it.

I wonder how Fallen Order is doing commercially.

I believe it's a hit.

 

[MagneticTowels]

meanwhile

https://variety.com/2017/film/news/j-j-abrams-your-name-remake-paramount-1202574994/

 

[Godzilla@1989]

He gets a Sub license of the core brand license and incentives the brand holder (Paramount/Disney) to prioritize the sub license

Well from what I heard rumors regarding Star Trek, Paramount's owner Shari Redstone is not a fan of the shit JJ farted out regarding the brand. So I imagine she'll make Paramount tell JJ and Bad Robot to fuck off and reboot the franchise once Viacom's merger with CBS closes tomorrow.

But for Iger, you'd think he should be as rational as Redstone and kindly tell JJ that his idea for the brand are shit, but nope. He's too greedy and lazy to pay Lucas royalties.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Well from what I heard rumors regarding Star Trek, Paramount's owner Shari Redstone is not a fan of the shit JJ farted out regarding the brand. So I imagine she'll make Paramount tell JJ and Bad Robot to fuck off and reboot the franchise once Viacom's merger with CBS closes tomorrow.

But for Iger, you'd think he should be as rational as Redstone and kindly tell JJ that his idea for the brand are shit, but nope. He's too greedy and lazy to pay Lucas royalties.

There is probably a BUY OUT clause for JJ if they drop his license before the agreed on time

And its not greed. They want Lucasfilm profits to be lead by Disney Era IP

 

[Godzilla@1989]

There is probably a BUY OUT clause for JJ if they drop his license before the agreed on time

And its not greed. They want Lucasfilm profits to be lead by Disney Era IP

If that's the case, Disney sure picked the wrong ideas to have in their shitty films. I don't see girls other than fat neckbeards cosplay as Rey or Finn. Hell, it's a damn fact that a majority of the Disney universe products are selling like shit in Walmart, Amazon, and Target.

Regarding JJ, I heard rumors from a Midnight's Edge video that Paramount and Bad Robot's deal ended on July 26 of this year since their now going to make shit with Warner Bros. So maybe with the re-merger of Viacom and CBS closing tomorrow, I would assume Paramount and ViacomCBS would not accept pitches from JJ's sub-license anymore.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

If that's the case, Disney sure picked the wrong ideas to have in their shitty films. I don't see girls other than fat neckbeards cosplay as Rey or Finn. Hell, it's a damn fact that a majority of the Disney universe products are selling like shit in Walmart, Amazon, and Target.

Regarding JJ, I heard rumors from a Midnight's Edge video that Paramount and Bad Robot's deal ended on July 26 of this year since their now going to make shit with Warner Bros. So maybe with the re-merger of Viacom and CBS closing tomorrow, I would assume Paramount and ViacomCBS would not accept pitches from JJ's sub-license anymore.

However they would have to make sure that they used nothing similar to what JJ used. Which means they would have to fire the entire [current] TV production teams for Trek. So thats complicated

Rey tests THROUGH THE ROOF with young girls. and Disney thinks when they hit 18-35 they will buy LOTS of Coonsumer materials. Poe and Finn test THROUGH THE ROOF with young LGBT+ kids who will buy lots of stuff when they hit 18-35

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Rey tests THROUGH THE ROOF with young girls. and Disney thinks when they hit 18-35 they will buy LOTS of Coonsumer materials. Poe and Finn test THROUGH THE ROOF with young LGBT+ kids who will buy lots of stuff when they hit 18-35

It's a shame though that young girls are stuck with a bland, uninteresting protagonist with hardly no backstory to care for. Regarding the LGBT+ kids (too early for them to question their sexuality), Poe and Finn are either underdeveloped or cucked to the sidelines.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

It's a shame though that young girls are stuck with a bland, uninteresting protagonist with hardly no backstory to care for. Regarding the LGBT+ kids (too early for them to question their sexuality), Poe and Finn are either underdeveloped or cucked to the sidelines.

Market research said kids love bland, uninteresting protagonists that they can fill in the gaps for their lack of a back story

I mean are you saying this team of 20 people in marketing management making 6 figures are wrong? or their 400 employees making 20$ an hour in NY and Cali are also wrong?