General transgender discussion thread - Take the tranny related debates here.

[Lemmingwise]

This is me powerleveling, but saying the first step of transitioning is watching a gender bending hentai. If this isn't AGP behaviour, then I don't know what is.

What's AGP?

Why you should transition : transmaxxing

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[vintologi]

Transmaxxing as a cure for inceldom seem to work based on the limited info we have to go on so far, it's better than the alternatives when you are younger than 24.

 

[Spastic Colon]

Incels need to lower their standards. They aren't going to get the 8/10 girls. They need to be willing to look at girls who are as desperate as they are. That's their real problem. Turning themselves into fake women in order to con hot lesbians to have sex with them is a remarkably stupid thing to do. It's basically taking an incel and multiplying their freakishness to the nth degree. But, since it's only incels, it's not like them destroying themselves is that tragic. It's just a different kind of failure.

 

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What's AGP?



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AGP is short for autogynephilia, a form of erotic target location error where men become aroused by imagining themselves as the object of their desire - a woman. The term was (I believe) coined by Dr Ray Blanchard to describe heterosexual transsexuals or, as these subjects would prefer to name themselves, “transbians”. They are what most people here mean when they call people of interest “troons”.

 

[vintologi]

AGP is short for autogynephilia, a form of erotic target location error where men become aroused by imagining themselves as the object of their desire - a woman. The term was (I believe) coined by Dr Ray Blanchard to describe heterosexual transsexuals or, as these subjects would prefer to name themselves, “transbians”. They are what most people here mean when they call people of interest “troons”.

There is no evidence for the erotic target location theory as an explanation for AGP and it is contradicted by the fact that people thay are exclusively androphilic sometimes experience AGP.

r/transmaxxing - About autogynephilia

9 votes and 18 comments so far on Reddit

agp.vintologi.com

(PDF) The Case Against Autogynephilia

PDF | Autogynephilia is a paraphilic model that states that all male-to-female (MtF) transsexuals who are not exclusively attracted toward men are... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

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[tiggles]

There is no evidence for the erotic target location theory as an explanation for AGP and it is contradicted by the fact that people thay are exclusively androphilic sometimes experience AGP.

r/transmaxxing - About autogynephilia

9 votes and 18 comments so far on Reddit

agp.vintologi.com

(PDF) The Case Against Autogynephilia

PDF | Autogynephilia is a paraphilic model that states that all male-to-female (MtF) transsexuals who are not exclusively attracted toward men are... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

this guy keeps citing transmaxxing, I’m dying

Julia Serano is a tranny hack with a personal, vested interest in dismissing AGP because he is one. His PhD is in molecular biology. He is a researcher in genetics and is not qualified in the field of transgender psychology.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Transmaxxing as a cure for inceldom seem to work based on the limited info we have to go on so far, it's better than the alternatives when you are younger than 24.

You're not solving anything. You're not getting anything that you couldn't get by paying a whore and that only has some chance for damaging your body (STDs), whereas your suggested path is certain to damage your body. Not that I think paid sex is a good idea, but it's infinitely prefferable than damaging your body. In the best case, you kinda look like a woman for 5 years or so. Women run into the wall at some point in their lives; trannies crash into it. And then waits a long life of regret. Instead of practising 30 minute every day at learning to sound like the opposite sex, you could have spent at the gym, or learning to dance, or learning any skill that helps make you more attractive in a healthy way.

this guy keeps citing transmaxxing, I’m dying

he's linking to his own posts, too.

 

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he's linking to his own posts, too.

does the reddit trans community thread know their recent specimen of interest is on the farms? I stopped following that thread after it peaked with the guy cutting off his own nut and sending us a nice dick pick to verify.

for everybody else,@vintologi is the manlet who uses voice filters and auto tune to honeypot AGPs into believing they have a chance at passing. You’re doing gods work, baby, keep tricking the perverts into exposing themselves so we can see them all coming from a mile away.

 

[AnOminous]

Transmaxxing as a cure for inceldom seem to work based on the limited info we have to go on so far, it's better than the alternatives when you are younger than 24.

For every weak chinned incel who looks moderately passable as a troon, there are at least a dozen who are even uglier and more unfuckable.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

Incels need to lower their standards. They aren't going to get the 8/10 girls. They need to be willing to look at girls who are as desperate as they are. That's their real problem. Turning themselves into fake women in order to con hot lesbians to have sex with them is a remarkably stupid thing to do. It's basically taking an incel and multiplying their freakishness to the nth degree. But, since it's only incels, it's not like them destroying themselves is that tragic. It's just a different kind of failure.

Nah, half of incels need to troon out and then let the other half fuck them.

Problem solved.

 

[vintologi]

Going for escorts is not a good option, it may allow you to get sex but it will not give you any love or validation. Elliot rodgers father offered to pay for escorts so he would get sex but elliot rodger wasn't interested.

Nah, half of incels need to troon out and then let the other half fuck them.

Problem solved.

Why the hell should you lend your body to an incel for free after transitioning?

Transwomen that transition will mostly end up fucking each other ignoring incels and chasers.

 

[Spastic Colon]

Going for escorts is not a good option, it may allow you to get sex but it will not give you any love or validation. Elliot rodgers father offered to pay for escorts so he would get sex but elliot rodger wasn't interested.


Why the hell should you lend your body to an incel for free after transitioning?

Transwomen that transition will mostly end up fucking each other ignoring incels and chasers.

So, even an incel won't date an incel? LOL. You'd think they'd have some compassion and understanding for a fellow incel's suffering. Nope, they really are just self-centered assholes. No wonder they can't get dates.

 

[edgy supermacy]

Incels need to lower their standards. They aren't going to get the 8/10 girls. They need to be willing to look at girls who are as desperate as they are. That's their real problem. Turning themselves into fake women in order to con hot lesbians to have sex with them is a remarkably stupid thing to do. It's basically taking an incel and multiplying their freakishness to the nth degree. But, since it's only incels, it's not like them destroying themselves is that tragic. It's just a different kind of failure.

no, women need to. women have become extremely hypergamous

if a guy is a 6/10 and is call "entitled" for wanting a 6/10 girl, then the girl is in the wrong

 

[AnOminous]

So, even an incel won't date an incel? LOL. You'd think they'd have some compassion and understanding for a fellow incel's suffering. Nope, they really are just self-centered assholes. No wonder they can't get dates.

Incels truly are the scum of the earth.

 

[Marceline]

I don't understand trans people who say you don't need dysphoria to be trans. Most of the trans people I know say that it's kind of a requirement. I fully support trans people & shit but it confuses me sometimes with how many differences there are.
Sorry I'm tripping right now, I hope what I said makes sense.

 

[soft breathing]

Turning themselves into fake women in order to con hot lesbians to have sex with them is a remarkably stupid thing to do.

It also probably won't work. Since their all around awkwardness and creepiness won't just vanish as soon as they have a trannygina.

I don't understand trans people who say you don't need dysphoria to be trans.

Those people aren't trans. They're either 'transtrenders' or attention seeking faggots. Which boils down to the same thing in the end.

 

[Spastic Colon]

no, women need to. women have become extremely hypergamous
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if a guy is a 6/10 and is call "entitled" for wanting a 6/10 girl, then the girl is in the wrong

If a 6/10 girl is waiting for a 10/10 guy -- yes, she should lower her standards. There are actually plenty of fish in the sea. You see plenty of ugly or overweight or broke or just paroled finding love. Things that might be a deal breaker for some are no big deal for others. If you can't find it, the problem is you. Either you are looking in the wrong places (bars and other meat markets) or you have personality issues/disorders that make you unattractive as a person. Sitting at home on the internet whining to other people that you are entitled to be loved is not going to change anything. Get out. Take up a hobby. Join a club. Or get therapy and work on those issues. That's the advice I'd give to incels. I certainly wouldn't encourage them to troon out like vintologi. That is literally the worst advice you could give them. I'd tell them to neck themselves before I'd tell them to troon out.

 

[vintologi]

So, even an incel won't date an incel? LOL. You'd think they'd have some compassion and understanding for a fellow incel's suffering. Nope, they really are just self-centered assholes. No wonder they can't get dates.

There are different theories on what females prefer and the importance of different traits.

It also probably won't work. Since their all around awkwardness and creepiness won't just vanish as soon as they have a trannygina.

You dont need to attract cis lesbians to benefit from transmaxxing, most people that transition will probably be more compatible with other transbians.

Those people aren't trans. They're either 'transtrenders' or attention seeking faggots. Which boils down to the same thing in the end.

They are trans if they persue medical transition.

If you have dysphoria but dont transition you belong to the "desist" or "detrans" category

 

[thebigbean]

I will not call them women (I'm okay with calling them trans women

Makes sense. Trans is latin for "not really a".

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

I think we should throw the term transgender out the window, label everyone who medically transitions a transsexual since it's biologically correct and treat gender dysphoria like a rare subset of the dysphoria experienced by cis people.

It seems wrong to treat dysphoria like a tranny exclusive thing or to say that it always stems from "your brain not matching up with your body". If it was really a brain/body mismatch we would be seeing a lot more claims of phantom cocks/vaginas, no? Like when amputees feel like their limbs are still attached.

AGP is short for autogynephilia, a form of erotic target location error where men become aroused by imagining themselves as the object of their desire - a woman. The term was (I believe) coined by Dr Ray Blanchard to describe heterosexual transsexuals or, as these subjects would prefer to name themselves, “transbians”. They are what most people here mean when they call people of interest “troons”.

I think Blanchard was wrong when he associated AGP to transbians. Lots of HSTS troons transition because they get off on imagining themselves as women too, usually porn star bimbos getting railed by giant cocks. We don't notice them as much because they spend time in fetish circles where they're actually wanted instead of sperging on reddit, though.