Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[ZMOT]

Rian ... knows he will always have a considerable amount of shills who will defend him at all cost even after he kicks the bucket.

not really. first of all, what did he do? he "subverted" star wars, big whoop. if disney manages to pull that shit out of the gutter he will just be remembered as that dipshit that made the worst (star wars) movie. if not the brand will be replaced and in 10-20 years it will have dropped out of general conscience and just become a cautionary tale. it's not like he made a grand political statement that will get put down in the history books. I mean how many people even know what heaven's gate was?

more importantly the twittertards don't act out of conviction, but social brownie points. they are the same opportunistic scum that will gladly embrace racial purity if they think that's what people want to hear. 80 years ago those people became blockwards looking for wrongthink just the same.
once the political climate inevitably changes (not necessary 180°, but there's an equal reaction to every action) they will drop him like the sad fuck he is, just like they did before with others that were actually somewhat important. remember, obama is considered a conservative now.

My head is spinning, why would Disney allow something like this and why did they put that video online with all those spoilers in there? They could have done it and beeped over the spoilers and blurred them out in the background. I don't get it, this is the most asinine way of doing this crap, what the fuck were they thinking?

usually the explanation is quite simple.
- disney doesn't give a fuck and thinks it will make more people see the movie (any PR is good PR, going for a "so bad it's good" spin).
- burger king doesn't give a fuck, knows the film will be shit and tries to get at least some PR out of it than shilling a palpy whopper with rey fries for a failed movie they paid big money for.
- someone lower at disney doesn't give a fuck and signed off on it since he knows he will be canned after epIX anyway

Guys I found my own leaks about episode 9 and for once its not stupid.
Check it out but spoilers for those who give a shit...are you ready?

>no HOHOHO when doing the sheev spin
missed chance.

we arent consuming like we used to back in the 80's to the early 2000's, they are actually needing to put effort and they are god damn terrified of it...since, you know, they are a bunch of talentless hacks who played life on the "Very easy" mode while taking a piggy ride on the backs of much more creative men.

we are consuming just the same. you can feed people anything, just make it tasty - and that's the difference to the 80s. even back then you had lazy remakes, but usually those were decades older, when they flopped no one cared and the studio moved on and didn't tried to kickstart a cinematic universe with the next one again.
these days you get remakes of stuff people still remember (quite well sometimes, how many spiderman reboots did they make now?), and they don't even put any effort in. why should I eat your slop when you can't even be arsed to flavor it or just lazily dump a pack of salt in it? because everybody loves salt, right?

Sure. I will try to relate it as much as possible to Star Wars to keep it on topic. I'm worried someone will point out this is off-topic, but keep in mind I'm just making an exception to reply to a question.

eh, offtopic happens in any discussion, imo as long as it doesn't completely derail the thread it should be fine. especially when put in spoilers so people can easily skip the stuff they don't care about.
mods might disagree tho.

 

[Creep3r]

Given the sheer level of his.... 'meltdown' I guess would be the best word? Well, perhaps what we are seeing here would be best explained as him realizing his career -is- ruined.

Right now is when studios should be head hunting the hell out of people just coming off a 'successful' trilogy. They no longer have commitments to disney, and if the movies had actually done well every single star in it and any side character of note would have been given a ton of acting opportunities.

So, two scenarios explain Boyega's latest actions.
1: No offers came in. (Unlikely, even a bad star wars movie pulls in hundreds of millions of dollars, and should be sufficient to at least offer some roles)
2: He has been typecast. Every role offered is the bumbling fool. (This one I think is most likely, he realized his ability to be taken seriously has been nuked, and he is bitter)



I think he is good, but to give a nod to @Love_Machine011 , his performance in pacific Rim was sub par. I think he has talent, but lacks experience, and needs a strong script to help him overcome that lack of experience. With a sub par, or outright bad, script he seems to be unable to really work with it well.

This seems to be the most likely scenario for whatever the fuck is causing this behavioral twist in Boyega. I mean he's not even race baiting anymore which honestly felt like some shitty publicity thing. The man genuinely seems passive-aggressive now. Also its probably not just typecasting as a bumbling Stepin Fetchit-tier fool that's got his jimmies rustled, but he's probably resentful at Disney for giving him a crappy fanbase too who only see him as a piece of shitty yaoi-progressive fap bait who are always demanding that he kiss Isaac, because quite frankly the majority of his fanbase seems to be nothing but FinnPoe shippertards. So not only is his career fucked, but unlike the stars of olde, he doesn't even have a devoted fanbase, just a shared fanbase with Poe that only wants them to french each other, so Boyega probably can't even enjoy fan gatherings without being put into awkward positions or being giving awkward questions like whether or not he thinks Isaac is hot, which is not only embarrassing but probably damages his dating prospects. He also can't enjoy himself or have a good time with women without being accused of indecency, sexism or most prominently "gay erasure" because that's just the society we live in now...

The man seems to be screwed on all fronts and all he has now is just the money. Speaking of crazy fans, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if some crazy bitch tries to murder Adam Driver at some point.

Anyway

DAY 6! 6 DAYS LEFT UNTIL PLAN 9: THE FALL OF SKYWALKER!

 

[PeruvianPerun]

That and, I know this is late, but him being delusional enough to, unironically, think everyone that calls him out on his shitty movie is a "Russian bot".

imagine being so narcissistic you think Russia would waste time and resources to troll a random director

I am Russian bot myself, daughter of Putin. Trust me, this situation is not that unambiguous, no one wants to hate Star Wars here in Troll Factory
What an utter rubbish

 

[ditto]

Rian CAN make a decent product if he is kept under a very heavy watch

Brick was a terrific movie, written and made under tight time and budget constraints. Rian is absolutely not a director that can handle creative freedom well.

Awwww. I bet he has big sad eyes and makes mechanical sniffing noises. Ugh.

Your Plastic Pal Who's Fun to Be With!

 

[Creep3r]

THE MOTHER FUCKING SHITTY ORACLE LEAK WAS TRUE TOO! WTF

Its the fucking hideous spider oracle... I thought this shit was removed. Either that or the prop is a leftover from the concept or she's still in the movie. Regardless, this means the leak was fucking true, even if it did get axed or not. All the leaks might be true, both proven and disproved. Just how the fuck did this happen?

And to no surprise from me, the film has nothing but nu-aliens except ewoks. Its all mostly that damn Abo-nedo alien species again.

Why does Disney keep putting this damn OC of theirs in everything yet keeps giving old aliens who were said to be almost as numerous as humans the shaft?

 

[Safir]

Around when TFA came out, Lego wasn't allowed to know too many details about certain things

Didney also DMCAed and blocked a guy's personal facebook for posting his photo of a Rey toy that he bought at Walmart, then retracted the claim and DMCAed him again - apparently because the box said "Rey (rebel outfit)" or something and it was considered a spoiler.

And not just any guy - he was a staffer at Star Wars Action News, a prominent toy shill fansite. Off to a nice start, weren't they?

 

[Old Man Mario]

And to no surprise from me, the film has nothing but nu-aliens except ewoks. Its all mostly that damn Abo-nedo alien species again.
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Why does Disney keep putting this damn OC of theirs in everything yet keeps giving old aliens who were said to be almost as numerous as humans the shaft?

For a movie full of "diversity" why the Hell don't we have more aliens? Hell, I think there were more aliens in the Mos Eisley Cantina than this trilogy.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

For a movie full of "diversity" why the Hell don't we have more aliens? Hell, I think there were more aliens in the Mos Eisley Cantina than this trilogy.

That's not diversity though, because all those aliens are cis white males.

 

[Creep3r]

For a movie full of "diversity" why the Hell don't we have more aliens? Hell, I think there were more aliens in the Mos Eisley Cantina than this trilogy.

No Biths despite being smarter than humans.

No Ithorians despite being as smart as humans and that their love and study of nature takes them everywhere.

No Gran despite being just as smart and as opportunistic as humans.

No Rodians despite being the border jumpers of the galaxy.

And No Twi'leks despite being the widespread former slave race of the galaxy.

Where did all these iconic fuckers go?

Yes, I know Disney has come up with shitty explanations like zombie plagues, mining, disasters and the FO/Empire destroying/ruining a bunch of planets and aliens to explain where they all went. But why even do that? Only place you see them in Disney shit is in RO, Solo or media that takes place during or before the OT, and even the little bit of prequel media released now seems to be getting scarce on them. And the supposed upcoming trilogy is said to be titled Episodes X through XII. Is this what Iger meant by distancing SW from its original self? The rumors about Chewbacca dying might actually be true after all if that's the case. Disney, if you wanted to introduce some new aliens that badly, why not just do what George did and introduce new ones alongside the classics to ease people into them?

Hell even the bastard Vong didn't succeed at nuking the classic aliens, and they fucked over Rodia pretty damn hard, but then again, Rodia is always fucked.

Anyway, here's a new poster. Its kind of poetic in a disturbing way. Disney's shitty OCs "join" together to destroy the foundation that was Star Wars while dethroning its most iconic symbol.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

You know, all this talk about this movie being a shitfest that will create a massive wave of outrage are nice and dandy, but there's one flaw:
This is clown world. A lot of people will seal-clap and pretend that bringing back Palpatine was planned from the start of TFA, that Rey's ancestry was always a major plot point and how everything neatly ties into each other... A lot of people will lap this shit up. We won't be seeing a massive blunder and a huge box office bomb. People will go see this movie in droves and enjoy it, since their threshold for being "entertained" is the cinematic equivalent of dangling keys in front of a baby's face.
"Oh man, did you see them exploshuns! That was so awesuuuum!" is what you will be hearing from all corners of the net and the ones saying "This movie sucked and it was a mess" will be a vocal minority.

Mandalorian and Fallen Order managed to boost the popularity a little, the brand has been a reinvigorated a bit. Some fans are too weak-willed to boycott, even though they hate TLJ. And from what I gather from the leaks, that's the kind of low-effort crap that the masses just love to consume. It's garbage, but it's popular garbage.

The only thing that I hope for is that the movie will see a massive dip over the first 2 weeks, cause everyone who wants to see it will watch it once and then no one else goes on the later showings. It will crawl past 1bn Dollars while doing so, I fear.

But maybe my fellow human being surprise me and this movie does bomb, but I doubt it.

2. Kylo and Rey are flailing around.

When you look at the poses of Kylo and Rey, it is obvious that neither are able to actually strike their opponent, since they are too close and Kylo's pose is awkward as fuck. Luke and Vader's poses are really like something straight out of a fencing manual of the middle ages.
Kylo and Rey lack any strength or impact in theirs.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Do you think a great actor would be able to save lines like "That’s how we’re gonna win this. Not fighting what we hate, saving what we love"?

The only actor I could see making that line work even ironically is Tommy Wiseau.

 

[Trig.Point]

The Daily Mail is reporting that a Terminally ill fan has been given a private screening of the film. This is particularly poignant as apparently Disney hasn't allowed any test screenings.

https://archive.vn/p0rQO

 

[ZehnBoat]

The Daily Mail is reporting that a Terminally ill fan has been given a private screening of the film. This is particularly poignant as apparently Disney hasn't allowed any test screenings.

https://archive.vn/p0rQO

i guess he's chosen to die of cancer

 

[Ginger Piglet]

The Daily Mail is reporting that a Terminally ill fan has been given a private screening of the film. This is particularly poignant as apparently Disney hasn't allowed any test screenings.

https://archive.vn/p0rQO

This was on the Beeb a while back. Don't expect anything other than gushing praise though from that fan. They probably made him sign a stack of NDAs and non-disparagement clauses and if you shit on our film we'll legally fuck you like a whore on payday type agreements.

 

[Creep3r]

You know, all this talk about this movie being a shitfest that will create a massive wave of outrage are nice and dandy, but there's one flaw:
This is clown world. A lot of people will seal-clap and pretend that bringing back Palpatine was planned from the start of TFA, that Rey's ancestry was always a major plot point and how everything neatly ties into each other... A lot of people will lap this shit up. We won't be seeing a massive blunder and a huge box office bomb. People will go see this movie in droves and enjoy it, since their threshold for being "entertained" is the cinematic equivalent of dangling keys in front of a baby's face.
"Oh man, did you see them exploshuns! That was so awesuuuum!" is what you will be hearing from all corners of the net and the ones saying "This movie sucked and it was a mess" will be a vocal minority.

Mandalorian and Fallen Order managed to boost the popularity a little, the brand has been a reinvigorated a bit. Some fans are too weak-willed to boycott, even though they hate TLJ. And from what I gather from the leaks, that's the kind of low-effort crap that the masses just love to consume. It's garbage, but it's popular garbage.

The only thing that I hope for is that the movie will see a massive dip over the first 2 weeks, cause everyone who wants to see it will watch it once and then no one else goes on the later showings. It will crawl past 1bn Dollars while doing so, I fear.

But maybe my fellow human being surprise me and this movie does bomb, but I doubt it.


When you look at the poses of Kylo and Rey, it is obvious that neither are able to actually strike their opponent, since they are too close and Kylo's pose is awkward as fuck. Luke and Vader's poses are really like something straight out of a fencing manual of the middle ages.
Kylo and Rey lack any strength or impact in theirs.

Painfully true, but there's some hope, not much, but some. It seems even reddit's Star Wars hubs (the #1 realm of Disney Wars shillery aside from maybe Twitter) have begun to turn on IX, not because they hate what Disney is doing or that characters and settings have been fucked, but because the "fandom has become to toxic" and that the cast like Boyega and Ridley are ruining their love of things because of their "negative" and "toxic" comments. It seems Ridley's Trump comments and Boyega's negativity has turned people away, much like I hoped it would. But the most painful blow was the Burger King spoiler which killed their dreams of Reylo, resulting in a bunch of redditorfags making Burger King jokes and anti-Burger King memes.

r/StarWarsLeaks - John clarifies his comments in the Variety interview

706 votes and 399 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

r/StarWars is the only place where its not as intense because they're taking a more active role in deleting and banning "negative sentiment" since that place is basically run by Disney.

Also the Disney Wars event in Japan finally happened and it was mostly a press conference.

Its over an hour long and I'm not sitting through that shit, so if anyone else wants to torture themselves to find any funny tidbits or leaks being confirmed, then be my guest.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

"Shut up and be a loyal employee, John Boyega."

The writer of this piece compares it to if he told his wife after birthing twins that he has a downer on one of those twins.

 

[Gehenna]

"Shut up and be a loyal employee, John Boyega."

The writer of this piece compares it to if he told his wife after birthing twins that he has a downer on one of those twins.

"Shut up, and be a proper house nigger. Disney let you inside, so shut up and smile"

I just cannot read that article without that subtext flashing to mind.

 

[Trig.Point]

This seems to be the most likely scenario for whatever the fuck is causing this behavioral twist in Boyega. I mean he's not even race baiting anymore which honestly felt like some shitty publicity thing. The man genuinely seems passive-aggressive now. Also its probably not just typecasting as a bumbling Stepin Fetchit-tier fool that's got his jimmies rustled, but he's probably resentful at Disney for giving him a crappy fanbase too who only see him as a piece of shitty yaoi-progressive fap bait who are always demanding that he kiss Isaac, because quite frankly the majority of his fanbase seems to be nothing but FinnPoe shippertards. So not only is his career fucked, but unlike the stars of olde, he doesn't even have a devoted fanbase, just a shared fanbase with Poe that only wants them to french each other, so Boyega probably can't even enjoy fan gatherings without being put into awkward positions or being giving awkward questions like whether or not he thinks Isaac is hot, which is not only embarrassing but probably damages his dating prospects. He also can't enjoy himself or have a good time with women without being accused of indecency, sexism or most prominently "gay erasure" because that's just the society we live in now...

The man seems to be screwed on all fronts and all he has now is just the money. Speaking of crazy fans, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if some crazy bitch tries to murder Adam Driver at some point.

Obviously financially he's set for life. I suspect though that he realised at some point that he the films weren't going to turn him into Harrison Ford, and that the writers and producers had little respect for his character and even less idea of what to do with him.

I wonder if it was when he got introduced to his tubby Asian love interest?

 

[Love Machine]

If you want, I can explain it. It's long though.

TFA for all its problems introduced likable characters, and even Rey was tolerable when things began. So how they fucked that up might seem a little unusual for those not familiar with this sort of phenomenon, and is entirely predictable to those who've studied media at all the in the last decade:

A bunch of untalented speds got in charge of the clubhouse, and started gatekeeping. Originally, they were intending to keep political opponents out, push like-minded buddies to the forefront, but soon their net tightened and they cracked down on everyone more talented than they were. In short order, this led to coterie of like-minded, mostly untalented assholes who all agree with one another and who hate everyone who won't kiss their ass. Unfortunately, nobody wants their very artsy personal project shit, so they came upon a solution: rather than create something new or interesting (which would take effort), they would take existing franchises and then warp them until they fit their personal vision. This happens all the time in media, but it's really obvious to see now because many of the people doing this are now openly partisan in their politics.

For the new trilogy stan, their arguments have nothing to do with the movie's quality (or lack thereof) and everything to do with posturing. Most of the people stanning it self-evidently can't defend it for any reason that isn't a really stupid progressive talking point (the kind even SJWs would write off as being a stretch) or trenchant complaint about how the fandom is mean and deserved to not be catered to, ignoring the obvious fact that the fans are the people who self-evidently care about the series the most and would bring in easy money. So what's the real reason?

They'll never admit to it, but the reason they like the new trilogy is specifically because it's a fucking zero-talent mess that will never challenge them on any level. The quintessential easy mode that won't make them think, will uphold their stupid political and social worldviews, and denigrate those that disagree with them.

If you go looking through post-collapse Marvel's catalogue you'll see their comics are full of SJW-made heroes just like Rey - overpowered, never having to work for anything, never having meaningful challenges that aren't things they'll inevitably dominate. The supporting cast will never be more than checkboxes, the enemy never anything more than the embodiment of whatever evil they want to foist the blame for all problems on. Captain Planet villains will have more robust character motivations than their antagonists. So I'm not saying Rian Johnson is just another Social Justice-fellating postmodernist, but I am implying it, and we sure as shit know Kathleen Kennedy is.

WHAT THE FUCK DOES STAN MEAN?! WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MEAN!? IM SO FUCKING SICK OF YOU ZOOMERS!

 

[ZehnBoat]

WHAT THE FUCK DOES STAN MEAN?! WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MEAN!? IM SO FUCKING SICK OF YOU ZOOMERS!

i'm not 100% sure but the best way i can explain it is:
someone who obsessively follows something, sometimes to the point where it becomes a part of their identity

for example:
k-pop stans basically only talk about k-pop, post k-pop gifs all the time and get angry if someone doesn't like k-pop and will hound them for having the "wrong" opinion

i think it's from the eminem song "stan"