Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Godzilla@1989]

It’s pure lunacy to argue Mandalorian and Fallen Order will boost IX’s box office.

 

[PseudoScrooge]

Also is it just me or did Rey get flatter?

This is hilarious....either that's a cheap reshoot tactic, and those are "body doubles," or they personal-trainered Ridley so much that she lost body fat in unfortunate places! Poor thing.

Now they're giving her Luke's X-Wing.

Rey is not a character. She exists to be glorified, stan'd, and given things for free.


The cast of Rebels also dilute the importance of the OT. Suddenly Luke, Leia, Obi-Wan and Yoda aren't the last of the Jedi, and both Kanan and Space Aladdin are much better Jedi than any of them. Even the Rebellion is undercut somewhat by Saw Guerrera, who regarded them as not radical enough. Then the Bendu--the cosmic Tim Pool of Star Wars--comes in and muddles the Force to the point of appealing to Grey Jedi activists, in spite of George's definition of balance: the Light side conquering the Dark.

Amen to both, brother. The weirdness started in late Clone Wars, where Yoda flew to the planet that was the center of the Force (?) and there was all that wacko Brother and Sister space diety bullshit that only rivals Scientology in its convoluted insanity...suddenly I wasn't watching a SW program, but an L. Ron Hubbard wet dream. Once again, turbo-cramming more pseudo-religious elements into the Force that had nothing to do with nothing. Certainly not the OT.

Then in Rebels we had the "Bendu" because we had to find a use for the early-script term. I love me some Tom Baker, but I loathed the undoing of the Light/Dark balance. One of you other Kiwis could better make this point, but there's something to be said for this fitting into some of the SJW mindset we've been discussing. It seems, to me anyway, that in a secular humanistic way (and what's more humanistic than SJW? They worship themselves, while hating themselves), concepts of right and wrong, good/bad are trying to be eradicated. There are no moral or immoral decisions, just decisions that benefit the maker of those decisions. UNLESS you disagree with them, of course, and then you are extremely WRONG.

 

[Antipathy]

For the love of all that's holy Filoni, enough with the wolf stuff...

Time for me to post my Filoni copypasta:

Fuck Filoni.
Filoni's an autistic wolfaboo who insists on inserting his donut steels into every scene and place and time possible, raping canon so that his poor special clowone commanders with gratuitous wolf shit can be good. He made the spacetime anus full of wolves and shit to save his stupid 14 yo orange asscheek pedobait. Thrawn got his ass kicked by space whales, and there are helicopter lightsaber sith wannabes running around thanks to him. He made Resistance. There's a fucking retcon in the novelization of ROTJ that has C3P0 telling the Ewoks all about the plot of Rebels. He neutered Grievous to such a retarded extent so that Ashoka could survive again, which retroactively makes his duel with Obi Wan in ROTS totally stupid, since he was made an idiot in comparison to Ashoka. If Kenobi struggled, what chance would a Padawan have?

Fuck Filoni and fuck his shit.

His entire thing is making characters, then bending space, time, plot, and canon to them so they'll be fine.
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Also, I was talking with my father, trying to convince him not to see IX. I owe him at least that much, he introduced me to Star Wars years and years and years ago, and I wanted to at least spare him this. We were talking back and forth, he asked me not to spoil the film (and I agreed not to, even though the spoilers were how I convinced a few friends of mine not to go), but shortly afterwards, he started talking to me about this Steven King book he was reading, one that he didn't like. The conversation drifted shortly afterwards, but from what I get, he thought he was sort of OBLIGATED to consume product, even if he didn't like it, simply because the label on it was something he liked.

That's going to be the ultimate challenge to surmount: whether or not we can break the label's power. If we do, the entire ST falls apart under its own weight, but if we don't, it won't.

 

[Creep3r]

This is hilarious....either that's a cheap reshoot tactic, and those are "body doubles," or they peronal-trainered Ridley so much that she lost body fat in unfortunate places! Poor thing.




Amen to both, brother. The weirdness started in late Clone Wars, where Yoda flew to the planet that was the center of the Force (?) and there was all that wacko Brother and Sister space diety bullshit that only rivals Scientology in its convoluted insanity...suddenly I wasn't watching a SW program, but an L. Ron Hubbard wet dream. Once again, turbo-cramming more pseudo-religious elements into the Force that had nothing to do with nothing. Certainly not the OT.

Then in Rebels we had the "Bendu" because we had to find a use for the early-script term. I love me some Tom Baker, but I loathed the undoing of the Light/Dark balance. One of you other Kiwis could better make this point, but there's something to be said for this fitting into some of the SJW mindset we've been discussing. It seems, to me anyway, that in a secular humanistic way (and what's more humanistic than SJW? They worship themselves, while hating themselves), concepts of right and wrong, good/bad are trying to be eradicated. There are no moral or immoral decisions, just decisions that benefit the maker of those decisions. UNLESS you disagree with them, of course, and then you are extremely WRONG.

As for the Bendu, that was kind of a thing even before Filoni Wars as far back as one of the early names for the jedi by George and it was later reincorporated in Old Republic lore as the first incarnation of the monks that would be the foundation for the jedi. But Filoni took a step further and made the Bendu into a literal Force demon that was neither light nor dark and was some kind of giant turtle moose straight out of Avatar the Last Airbender, right down to being a weird plot device like that lion turtle thing. And then they have that stupid moose tell Thrawn that he's going to die via space whale rape... That's one of the things that made me realize that bringing back Thrawn was a mistake.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Filoni? More like bologna.

 

[BipolarPon]

I don't think he might be a furry, but the man is definitely a wolfaboo, particularly one who has trouble controlling his power level. Back during Filoni Wars, he seemed to have more self control as the only wolf related thing there was a clone trooper squad named after wolves.

He also did have that self-insert with a pet wolf, I think his name is Embo. Also the wolfaboo shit in rebels only came in at season four. Though I admit the designs of Loth-Wolfs were kinda neat. Though probably because he used most of the show's budget on making them stand out.

Thank god for this thread While I like both shows despite thier flaws, this is only thread where I can critizce Dave Filoni without fans screaming at me.

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

The conversation drifted shortly afterwards, but from what I get, he thought he was sort of OBLIGATED to consume product, even if he didn't like it, simply because the label on it was something he liked.

Every time. Same with my friends/coworkers. There's a sense of either obligation or resignation to the brand. Even if they recognize certain criticisms, they'll still say it's pretty good or that "it's canon".

The funny thing is that this changes depending on the brand. On the one hand they'll go see Star Wars as a fan, but as a fan of Terminator they're like, "Nah, it's shit."

 

[Creep3r]

In an interview with ABC news, JJ Abrams revealed that the movie will have a kissing scene. Whether he means something shitastic like Reylo or the PoeZorry kiss is anyone's guess. But if Ren and Rey kiss you can expect a flood of godawful fanart to plague the internet for a month. However this kissing revelation is followed up by him talking about Rey and Ren's relationship being the heart of the story... Even if they kill Emo Ren, Reylos might still rejoice. Fuck.

Also one of the Knights of Sheev clones finally got a name. I guess they're named after walking/swimming forms?

This debunks a previous rumor claiming they all had japanese names. No surprise since that one was never shared by more than one source.

 

[XYZpdq]

In an interview with ABC news, JJ Abrams revealed that the movie will have a kissing scene. Whether he means something shitastic like Reylo or the PoeZorry kiss is anyone's guess. But if Ren and Rey kiss you can expect a flood of godawful fanart to plague the internet for a month. However this kissing revelation is followed up by him talking about Rey and Ren's relationship being the heart of the story... Even if they kill Emo Ren, Reylos might still rejoice. Fuck.

Also one of the Knights of Sheev clones finally got a name. I guess they're named after walking/swimming forms?
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This debunks a previous rumor claiming they all had japanese names. No surprise since that one was never shared by more than one source.

"Trudgen" sounds like some dumb name Strong Bad would stumble through making up "This here is -uh- Trogdor's brother uhh... Truhhd. Gen. Yeah. Trudgen."

 

[Stoneheart]

I liked the last episode of Mando alot.
looks like 3 and 4 are the only meh episodes of the season.

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

It looks like opinions on Episode 3 are shifting. I rather liked it, but then again I liked 2 the best.

 

[Creep3r]

"Trudgen" sounds like some dumb name Strong Bad would stumble through making up "This here is -uh- Trogdor's brother uhh... Truhhd. Gen. Yeah. Trudgen."

"Trudgen just trudging along..."
So what's this jerk's name?

Struttin?

Who's this guy?

Joggin?

Backstrok? Tiptoe? Waltzin?

Anyway according to this interviewer, JJ is nothing but grateful to Rian Johnson and that his decisions defined IX.

Kevin Polowy on Twitter

“Here's J.J. Abrams' full response when I asked him about Rian Johnson's contributions to the new Star Wars trilogy with The Last Jedi.”

twitter.com

 

[Cod of War]

In an interview with ABC news, JJ Abrams revealed that the movie will have a kissing scene. Whether he means something shitastic like Reylo or the PoeZorry kiss is anyone's guess. But if Ren and Rey kiss you can expect a flood of godawful fanart to plague the internet for a month. However this kissing revelation is followed up by him talking about Rey and Ren's relationship being the heart of the story... Even if they kill Emo Ren, Reylos might still rejoice. Fuck.
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Also one of the Knights of Sheev clones finally got a name. I guess they're named after walking/swimming forms?
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This debunks a previous rumor claiming they all had japanese names. No surprise since that one was never shared by more than one source.

>No Reylo salt

 

[AlexGroans]

In an interview with ABC news, JJ Abrams revealed that the movie will have a kissing scene. Whether he means something shitastic like Reylo or the PoeZorry kiss is anyone's guess. But if Ren and Rey kiss you can expect a flood of godawful fanart to plague the internet for a month. However this kissing revelation is followed up by him talking about Rey and Ren's relationship being the heart of the story... Even if they kill Emo Ren, Reylos might still rejoice. Fuck.
View attachment 1049551

Also one of the Knights of Sheev clones finally got a name. I guess they're named after walking/swimming forms?
View attachment 1049541
This debunks a previous rumor claiming they all had japanese names. No surprise since that one was never shared by more than one source.

Is that weapon from motherfucking Bloodborne?

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I personally cannot wait to hear how Rey goes around healing everyone and comes back from the dead because Disney made her literally Space Jesus. Fans will go ape shit.

 

[Creep3r]

Is that weapon from motherfucking Bloodborne?

From what I understand... yes.

 

[Judge Holden]

Aaaaaaaaand the Nerd Crew have arrived to herald the coming shitshow

Also Mike seems to be beta testing the new disney approved soylent grin model...

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

It's also nice that Rose is segregated to making speeches and no longer part of the supporting cast. Because when you want to give a stirring speeches to get your troops ready for battle you get the janitor to do it. May as well get a MSE-6, they have more charisma and character on screen.

 

[friedshrimp]

The thing of Reylo vs Finnpoe is just the microscope of what is wrong with Disney wars.

On one hand, Finnpoe represents all the hard "diversity" and "inclusion" Disney was desperate to cash in into, but Disney never imagined dipping their toes into the diversity pool would bring out the most toxic of fans out, with trans headcanons, bullying, and nonsense like harassing John Boyega or Oscar Isaac to give them some gay pandering (you think it hasn't happened? you fool, they're just not telling it). Thing is, these people hate Reylo and think of it as abusive, linking Ren with nazis so then if Rey goes with him it sends a problematic message

Meanwhile, Reylos come from the tween girl demographic, Disney thinking they could widen the demographic, but they were also deluded, since Reylos also love harassing others and throw a pitch the moment a Star Wars film isn't about Reylo. So if any other pairing gets focused that also offends them.

You see what's the problem? They can't pander to one set of fans without offending the other, and Disney wants both their moneys and good word of mouth. So what can they do?

TBH none of them really care about Star Wars. Reylos just wanna see their dark Disney Princess Twilight romance, while FinnPoes just wanna see the uptenth "black gays against white man bad reeee" narrative.

Also bet anything it's the Reylo kiss. PoeZorra kiss would be forced as fuck, and fortunately thanks to China we'll never have the BBQ gay FinnPoe nonsense. So honestly, at least the tumblrinas will be triggered by this film...Which is good I guess?

 

[Shroom King]

It’s pure lunacy to argue Mandalorian and Fallen Order will boost IX’s box office.

I just watched episode 5 of the Mandalorian (thanks to the Kiwi who posted the mega link earlier in the thread). It is the only episode I saw.

My thoughts are of shock that the same people who greenlighted this also made the Last Jedi, because this show is the exact opposite of the Last Jedi when it comes to wokeness.

As stated earlier, I only saw 1 episode but it had the following:

Strong male lead who kicks ass for a living.
Female character willing to watch baby yoda when the Mandolorian just says "uh, thanks" before going out to kick someone's ass, reinforcing traditional gender roles.
Strong independent woman gets shot in the stomach because she won't shut the fuck up.

I do not see much crossover between people who like this show and people who will like Episode IX. I actually see backlash with people saying "wtf, this new movie is nothing like the baby yoda show."