Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[A Useless Fish]

It was Inception.

That was Hans Zimmer.

 

[Übertroon]

I'm going to disagree here, master of Nod. Not about Gennedy Wars being awesome, that I agree with.
The issue is not Ahsoka herself.

The issue is that once Ahsoka's main arc ended, Filoni realized she was a fan favorite, and kept bringing her back, ultimately undermining the entire point of her character, which was a tragic disillusionment in what she originally believed brought about by circumstance and mirroring Anakin's own failures later. No one would have any issue with her had she stuck to this character paradigm and simply not returned. Instead Filoni found ways to cram her into absolutely everything, taking everything remotely well-done or interesting about her character and using it to swing for the cheap seats.

Everything done with her from the end of her initial arc onwards has been desperately holding into her original success, and that's a travesty. There's some amazing character potential in how she was set up and none of it is used right because Filoni is too obsessed with riding her initial success to show restraint. That's not on Ahsoka as a character, that's on Filoni. And now that Disney Wars is in control, you can expect that she's going to be warped until she's just as awful and broken as the rest of the franchise.

Also Shaak Ti was objectively a more interesting character until Filoni focusing on Ashsoka caused her to be sidelined.

They could have eventually brought Ahsoka back, but it could never be as a jedi, and especially as a jedi fighting with the rebel alliance against the empire.
She could very well have had a role in a sequel trilogy where there are new foes and a new paradigm, but almost everything with Star Wars Rebels was a mistake

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Matt Martin truly is the most obnoxious and dainty shill of all, made all the more shameless by the fact that everyone knows he's on Disney's payroll. All that jackass used to be in charge of was managing an SW merch website, yet Kennedy promotes him to the Story Group simply because he's the best bootlicker of all and even gets his own immortalized self-insert in Aladdin's Rebels courtesy of Filoni.

Not only Matt Martin but Andi Gutierrez got her own self insert in that same episode:

Gooti Terez

Gooti Terez was a female Theelin member of Iron Squadron. She opposed the Galactic Empire alongside her squadmates, Mart Mattin, Jonner Jin, and R3-A3. In 2 BBY, Gooti and her fellow Iron Squadron fighters clashed with an Imperial advance patrol. With the help of the Spectres and Phoenix Cell...

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I don't know enough about Andi as a person to know whether she's decent or just another Star Wars shill working for Disney/LucasFilm. As much as self-inserts are a part of any big, successful franchise, this batch felt cheap -- especially if "Iron Squadron" made no futher appearances in Rebels.

This is hilarious....either that's a cheap reshoot tactic, and those are "body doubles," or they personal-trainered Ridley so much that she lost body fat in unfortunate places! Poor thing.

Or they just taped her tits down, wouldn't surprise me tbh.

It wouldn't surprise me if they taped Daisy down because it was easier and eliminated the possibility of visible bra outlines showing in promotional pictures or close-ups. We already know Daisy is on the smaller side, so any type of photoshopping or tape down job isn't going to be very kind to her -- especially since they are already trying to de-emphasize what minimal curves she has.

And then they have that stupid moose tell Thrawn that he's going to die via space whale rape... That's one of the things that made me realize that bringing back Thrawn was a mistake.

I might have said it at some point in the thread, but it bears repeating. Thrawn fans and spergs were so intent with their #GetThrawnIn campaign that none of them stopped to think that just maybe Disney would do things with his character they wouldn't like. Almost immediately, they took issue with his eyes as they looked in Rebels. I have to imagine many were less than thrilled to see Thrawn bested by FTL flying space whales.

One of the most obnoxious things about Hollywood nowadays is how afraid -nay!- outright disgusted they are of the idea of showing off a female character in a way that would be seen as sexy or desirable.

People have already gone into detail with responses to this, but it seems Hollywood is too afraid to present female characters that are attractive, pleasant, and kick-ass all at the same time. The obsession with making female characters hideous and bland to address male gaze/fetishizing has taken one extreme and replaced it with the exact opposite. that doesn't seem like much of a solution.

I do like Ahsoka, but I feel like the last season of his Clone wars should be named the Ahsoka Show.

For Ahsoka leaving the Jedi, it's confusing to see why she'd come back to help them in this coming final season of Clone Wars and why she's such a focus as an ex-Jedi when there are plenty of Jedi whose perspectives could have been chronicled instead.

Ahsoka is one of the Clone Wars additions that I really don't like. Aside from the fact that the council would have never granted a padawan to Anakin, the Clone Wars should have really been about the dynamic between Obi-Wan and Anakin. You had a hint of almost a big brother/little brother relationship between the two at the start of Episode III.

IIRC, Obi-Wan tells Anakin "You were (like?) a brother to me!" after striking the latter down on Mustafar.
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Spoiler: About Ahsoka (cut for size)

The issue is that once Ahsoka's main arc ended, Filoni realized she was a fan favorite, and kept bringing her back, ultimately undermining the entire point of her character, which was a tragic disillusionment in what she originally believed brought about by circumstance and mirroring Anakin's own failures later. No one would have any issue with her had she stuck to this character paradigm and simply not returned. Instead Filoni found ways to cram her into absolutely everything, taking everything remotely well-done or interesting about her character and using it to swing for the cheap seats.

Everything done with her from the end of her initial arc onwards has been desperately holding into her original success, and that's a travesty. There's some amazing character potential in how she was set up and none of it is used right because Filoni is too obsessed with riding her initial success to show restraint. That's not on Ahsoka as a character, that's on Filoni. And now that Disney Wars is in control, you can expect that she's going to be warped until she's just as awful and broken as the rest of the franchise.

Also Shaak Ti was objectively a more interesting character until Filoni focusing on Ashsoka caused her to be sidelined.

I don't think I could have summed this up any better. Ahsoka could still have been a fan favorite if she had a part in Anakin's turn to the Dark Side (more on that shortly). Filoni seems to be the type that refuses to let his pet character die even when it would be the right thing to do to advance the plot because he just can't bear to put himself in a situation where his beloved character will no longer appear in future media as a live character. Any creator that can't let go of their beloved character does more to hurt the franchise than help it in the long-term. Worse, Ahsoka's return to Rebels felt forced in an attempt to boost poor ratings and fan interest than it was a bona fide attempt to have her character be an integral part of the era leading up to the rebellion we see in ANH.

Also, I disliked how Shaak Ti was relegated to little more than a cardboard cutout beyond the Dominio Squad/Kamino arc that kicked off Season 3 of Clone Wars.

To be honest, I hated the whole banishment thing. I always thought it would've been far more impacting for her to die because of Anakin's own shortcomings, thus justifying her rather pointless existence and giving us a more effective reason as to why Anakin would fall to the Dark Side beyond manipulation, insanity and desperation.

Preferably for me, the best way to deal with her was having her die at Dooku's hands because of Anakin's own shortcomings which made him fall further to the Dark Side and would've resulted in a very emotional and impacting end for her. Something like holding her in his arms as she's dying, trying to tell her everything's going to be okay, and all she can say is that she's scared because she's so young before finally dying. That's the kind of shit that would help to darken his soul.

I had hoped for something similar. Dooku, at one point in old canon, disliked dual-wielders such as the older Ahsoka. I envisioned a scene where Anakin and Ahsoka pursue Dooku and he somehow separates the pair. Anakin can only look on helplessly as Dooku easily overtakes and kills Ahsoka coldly. Dooku then flees while Anakin chooses to stay with and comfort Ahsoka through her dying breath. That could have easily help set the stage for Anakin giving in to Palpatine's goading to kill Dooku in Episode III with little remorse or resistance as we saw on-screen.

Instead, Ahsoka became Filoni's waifu who can never die because he can't see how Star Wars can continue without her perpetually in the background somewhere waiting to make yet another shoehorned cameo.

On a minor note, it always sort of bugged me how Ahsoka doesn't look like any other Togruta. She has shorter horns, shorter head tails, and her eyes look completely human and she lacks the traditional white eye markings all other Togrutas have over the eyes.

The shorter lekku and montrals is supposed to be because of adolescence. Compare this her adult self we see in Rebels where they are finally fuller-sized after nearly 20 years of elapsed time.

JJ Abrams hints that Ahsoka is in this movie...

Please, no. That's all that needs to be said here.

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. Vi Moradi has a few lines in it, which is exceptional because who even knows who she is?

That doohickey on her shoulder looks more like an old Intellivision/home entertainment system game cartridge than something a sci-fi space pilot would use or need. I guess t hat's part of what makes her character so head-scrachingly exceptional.

So how will Disney kill Baby Yoda and drive it into the ground?

It wouldn't surprise me if they try to say Baby Yoda is the new Baby Shark and come up with some annoying song to go with the meme.
(E: clean up an ambiguous sentence)

 

[verissimus]

Yo @PeeveTheSheev you're dead bub : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsgeJlxAmZY

 

[Shroom King]

So how will Disney kill Baby Yoda and drive it into the ground?

In a normal timeline, Baby Yoda would be as untouchable as Han Solo and Luke Skywalker. This is peak clown world.

 

[Rykel22]

So right now there's a Star Wars Hashtag trending with 3300 tweets. Its being beat by #BoycotHallmark(4500) and #StoneOceanAnime(5000).

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

"Lupé"

Fucking christ he really is obsessed by fucking wolves

Wonder if he's into Sonic SatAM:

That was Hans Zimmer.

Yep. Now most movie soundtracks sound like Hans Zimmer and it sucks. It's one of the things that really pissed me off about Genisys, and then Dark Fate. It's just BWAAAAAAAAA~H horns and generic action music.

I don't know enough about Andi as a person to know whether she's decent or just another Star Wars shill working for Disney/LucasFilm. As much as self-inserts are a part of any big, successful franchise, this batch felt cheap -- especially if "Iron Squadron" made no futher appearances in Rebels.

Oh, you didn't know?

Lucasfilm Reps Drink “Fanboy Tears”

Once again, Lucasfilm representatives demonstrate their contempt for critical fans. In April of 2018, Rian Johnson was quoted in an interview with Flickering Myth as saying, “Delicious fanboy…

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Biiit of a cunt.

Any creator that can't let go of their beloved character does more to hurt the franchise than help it in the long-term. Worse, Ahsoka's return to Rebels felt forced in an attempt to boost poor ratings and fan interest than it was a bona fide attempt to have her character be an integral part of the era leading up to the rebellion we see in ANH.

How ironic.

Filoni should know better, I thought he was a Jedi.

Every Jedi knows that attachment leads to suffering.

 

[BipolarPon]

So right now there's a Star Wars Hashtag trending with 3300 tweets. Its being beat by #BoycotHallmark(4500) and #StoneOceanAnime(5000).

The only thing noteworthy about the hashtag is some of the blessed memes.

 

[Reverend]

How could anyone forget this modern iconic scene from Marvel:

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Why would Aphra give half a shit? Didn't she work for Vader and the Empire?

This is a Tumblr post right? No sane company would ever try to combine Star Wars and Steven Universe into one.

 

[Quijibo69]

The Fortnite/Star Wars event was an unmitigated disaster. Nobody was able to connect to the servers and even the EPIC launcher wasn't working. It's fascinating how Nu-Wars wrecks everything it touches, even products from completely different companies.

It's pretty much like taking a dump on a pile of shit.

 

[Rotollo]

#StoneOceanAnime(5000).

Based JoJo fans putting disney war fans in their place

 

[Marissa Moira]

Based JoJo fans putting disney war fans in their place

You laugh, but you will have a look of surprise on your face once Disney buys up Jojo.

 

[Rotollo]

You laugh, but you will have a look of surprise on your face once Disney buys up Jojo.

Japanese Manga rights are complex, I think part of it is owned by Jump, another by Araki itself
MAYBE the mouse can buy the US publication rights but until araki dies which, considering how he looks wont be for a long ass time, it would be utter hell to buy it out.
and even then Jump itself hangs on to their ips as well so they would have to outplay them as well.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

More then 1000 Pages of Autism and the film isnt even out yet

Well done Lads

 

[Miller]

I don't know enough about Andi as a person to know whether she's decent or just another Star Wars shill working for Disney/LucasFilm.

She's a piece of shit. I think she's the one behind the "fanboys tears" mugs.

The issue is that once Ahsoka's main arc ended, Filoni realized she was a fan favorite, and kept bringing her back, ultimately undermining the entire point of her character

She's his waifu and judging by the end of SW Rebels, I wouldn't be surprised if he turned her into a canon Kreia and a Disney Princess.

 

[Ghostse]

The thing is, strictly speaking, AT-ATs and AT-STs don't make sense either, they are slow, cumbersome and not really able to travel over difficult terrain,

Oh shit. No you fucking didn't.

Legged vehicles are better over rough terrain than tracked ones. They just require more advanced controls since they have to be balanced. But that is why you've seen development into things like the Timberjack and why Big dog/little dog aren't wheeled or tracked


If you are the imperial marines of the pan-galactic empire fighting on who the fuck knows what sort of surface, you want to make sure your armor is able to move and manuever.

Legged armor doesn't need roads, don't have to maneuver around ridges or trenches if it can step over them, and you have elevation.

The destructability of AT-STs I'd put more on the fact the whole endor battle needs some serious suspension of disbelief to not sperg out about.
The Imperial communications were up, they held the planet, and the space battle was in their favor. Are you telling me they couldn't task a few TIE Bombers to just danger-close the entrance for a few hours? (Of course they couldn't, because then the heros wouldn't have been able to take out the shield)

Anyway, applying actual military strategy is a fools game when there flight exists and there is no in-universe AC-130 equivalent.

To be honest, I hated the whole banishment thing. I always thought it would've been far more impacting for her to die because of Anakin's own shortcomings, thus justifying her rather pointless existence and giving us a more effective reason as to why Anakin would fall to the Dark Side beyond manipulation, insanity and desperation. I honestly thought that would be the endgame, or have her come back for the purge on the Jedi Temple to die protecting the padawans and tragically fail, cementing Vader's own view of being beyond redemption even more, but instead Filoni just milks his waifu to the extreme, and then has her die at Vader's hand years later but then undoes that by introducing fucking time travel of all things like a complete wuss who can't let a single favorite character of his fucking die. It just makes Ahsoka's entire existence feel pointless with no payoff, just a thirdwheel who's their for merchandise, like a Jar Jar who's not exceptional. Preferably for me, the best way to deal with her was having her die at Dooku's hands because of Anakin's own shortcomings which made him fall further to the Dark Side and would've resulted in a very emotional and impacting end for her. Something like holding her in his arms as she's dying, trying to tell her everything's going to be okay, and all she can say is that she's scared because she's so young before finally dying. That's the kind of shit that would help to darken his soul.

Same.
Or if they didn't want to kill her because Kids Show, have her in coma/disabled/rendered unable to be a jedi anymore, again because of a mix of Anakin's own shortcomings and Jedi rules. That would be the short of shit that would eat at a jigga when you're trying to decide which side to take.

 

[PseudoScrooge]

Oh no.....all this talk about Ashoka (or "Ash-oka" as Doomcock pronounces it) just reminded me about the extra episodes of Filoni Wars (nu-Filoni Wars?) that we are about to get soon on Disney+. Didn't we hear here that Ashoka is in most of them? I can't do it.........I just can't.

I slogged through the show, which went on longer than the war itself. I just don't think I have it in me.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Why are we discussing a third rate character whose never been in a live action film?

Imagine if we spent as much time talking about the faggot hutt Ziro as we did Ashoka?

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Biiit of a cunt.

She's a piece of shit. I think she's the one behind the "fanboys tears" mugs.

I guess I'm not all that surprised. It's a shame that so many of the females currently involved with Star Wars have such raging hate-boners for the fans that made it the popular, successful franchise it was before Disney and company turned it into a steaming pile of poo .

Oh no.....all this talk about Ashoka (or "Ash-oka" as Doomcock pronounces it) just reminded me about the extra episodes of Filoni Wars (nu-Filoni Wars?) that we are about to get soon on Disney+. Didn't we hear here that Ashoka is in most of them? I can't do it.........I just can't.

I slogged through the show, which went on longer than the war itself. I just don't think I have it in me.

Afraid so on this. if you recall (or are brave enough to look back at) prior posts here, Ahsoka will be featured in what seems like the majority of the dozen new episodes. Worse, instead of having a new bf, the writers made a late change that replaces his character with what seems to be a lesbian speeder babe and possibly the latter's sister.

When I heard the show was supposed to go eight full seasons, I did some basic math. With what is a three-year span between Episodes II & III, 8 seasons would average out to 4.5 months or approximately 135 days. Assuming 22 episodes each season results in just over 6 days of galaxy time per episode on average.

With that in mind, it's no wonder the show felt both repetitive and drawn out with each subsequent season. To borrow an old trope, the show definitely jumped the shark and subsequent releases (The Lost Missions and these new Disney+ episodes) do nothing to change that perception .
(E: Clarity)

 

[verissimus]

Why are we discussing a third rate character whose never been in a live action film?

Imagine if we spent as much time talking about the faggot hutt Ziro as we did Ashoka?

Because the new characters in these movies suck ass.