When you make a movie using a sacred mythos, you need to fit the movie to the mythos. Forcing the mythos to conform to the movie will not only fail, people will hate you for daring to do it. The Mandalorian understands this and the Sequel Trilogy does not.
*edit* and to pile onto this, in Ancient Greece, Theater was a form of not just entertainment, but also as a way to impart moral lessons and the teachings of the Gods. When you make a theater play involving Zeus, Aphrodite, and Hera, you can certainly turn it into a love triangle drama, but under no circumstances could you make Zeus come across as a bumbling idiot hermit drinking blue tard cum and being unwilling to assert himself and instead just lets Aphrodite and Hera run roughshod all over him. Not only would this be out of Characther for Zeus, it would be heretical sacrilege and the showrunners of such a play would probably have ended up lynched. Kinda like what many of us want to do to Rian Johnson for his depiction of Luke Skywalker.
Gotta agree there; the treatment that characters like Luke, Han and Darth Vader have received under Disney really does feel almost sacrilegious in some sense. They really are mythic archetypes, communicating timeless truths about the human condition, and as such, to cannibalize such characters and their stories for cheap, Current Year "woke" points carries the stench of desecration about it.
But have you seen the droids from the Vong's galaxy?
I had the opportunity to think about this a little bit more at work today and it occurs to me that we're diverging along the the lines of the Star-Wars-is-Science-Fiction versus Star-Wars-is-Space-Fantasy debate. The Vong, I would argue, are the GFFA's orcs (dark, more bestial reflections of ourselves), with all of the attendant themes and questions that such creatures give rise to (are they
all evil,
why are they evil, are we no better than them if we respond in kind, etc), while the Silentium and so forth are very much more in the traditional sci-fi vein of encountering/doing battle with hostile, incomprehensible intelligences and decidedly non-humanoid biologies.
I can't believe I missed this post. You can't tell me that Traitor wasn't one of the most compelling pieces of Star Wars media. His insistence on saving the Vong is what drives the end of the series, too, and the fact that he achieved that goal speaks to the uniqueness of NJO.
That's all true, but none of it makes Jacen any less aggravating. Like the NJO series as a whole, there was some great potential in his wrestling with the moral questions behind the war, but the implementation often left something to be desired (particularly the whole debacle on Centerpoint Station during the Battle of Fondor; if someone had shot Jacen dead on the spot at that point I would have cheered out loud). The worst of it was that while, after the awesome
Traitor, he seemed to get better for a while, he quickly disappeared back up his own ass again in the post-NJO books, declaring himself a Sith and starting the third major galactic conflict in four decades on the basis of some vision of saving the galaxy from itself.
The writer for that also did the much better novelization of the Revenge of the Sith, Matthew Stover IIRC. He was one of the few writers to really have a concept of the scale of the Star Wars Galaxy, as opposed to Mandolorian Syphilitis riddled Karen "3 Million Clonetroopers" Travisty.
Didn't someone recap/explain the Minimalist vs Maximalist controversy in detail a week or two ago? That it stemmed from the unexplained ambiguity of exactly what the several-million "units" that the Kaminoans referred to in terms of clone production represented, individual clones or larger military formations?
Clone numbers notwithstanding, however, can someone please at least
attempt to provide specific examples of what exactly constitutes "Mandalorian Syphilitis"? Because from my perspective, it never seems to amount to anything more than certain Jedi famboys getting assmad over the idea that a Jedi could be defeated/killed by a non-Force-user, or that the PT Jedi Order was a corrupt and hypocritical institution (which it was, quite explicitly by Lucas's own depiction).
You guys are overthinking it. People wanted humans in Star Wars to be able to breed the hot blue alien ladies, so they made it so. I think humans and Togruta can have offspring too. I can't remember if that's true for Mirialans as well.
Mirialans are just green ("near") humans, though.
Lol so they turned Carrie Fisher's daughter into the BBQ rep. Also fucking hell that's all far worse than I could've imagined.
Making Billie Lourde's character a lesbian almost feels like they wanted to take the extinction of the Skywalker line to the meta level.
just give me the wampa horror movie, i dont care anymore.
Do that story where storm troopers opened the cage that the wampas were in after cp3o took of the label. An hour and a half of storm troopers trying to run away in the snow tunnels. Then as the finale the clone commander of the squad has a face off with the one armed wampa from Empite in a big exceptional individual fight, ending with both dying like in "The Grey" and then we have darth vader come in at the end to remake how fucked up these tunnels are.
No more nerfing Stormtroopers, please.
It really hurts to look back at this trailer with naive hope that new Star Wars would be a great or at least decent thing, and now it’s become...whatever it is now.
I was honestly left feeling pretty uneasy at the time. The news that Lucas had sold out to Disney left me hoping for the best but preparing for the worst, as the saying goes, and the trailer only added fuel to that fire (in particular, I can recall taking an instant dislike to almost all of the film's visual design, from the beach-ball droid to Daisy Ridley's stupidly complicated hairstyle to the duck-faced NuTroopers to Butt Dameron's top-heavy-looking X-Wing helmet). I did see
The Force Awakens during its theatrical release, but only at the behest of my then-fiancée (and in retrospect, I suspect that my inability to keep from scoffing at how overpowered Rey was probably set the snowball rolling on our eventual break-up).