Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

And the worst part is the writers never even intended it to be that way. They were just trying to fix Rian Johnsons fuckery with killing Snoke halfway through the story and needed to replace the "big bad" with something else. And in there desperate flailing they bring back papa palpatine and make Rey his granddaughter because "she came from nothing" focus tested badly.

And it completely went over these hacks heads that by doing that it means it was Palpatine, and not Luke Skywalker who triumphed at the end of return of the Jedi. Not only does Palpatine deceive Luke, he also kills Darth Vader, later utterly destroys the new Jedi Order, corrupts Anakins grandson to the Dark Side and destroys the New Republic.

I would almost think this was some form of subversive brilliance if I did not know for a fact these hacks had no intention of writing a story where Palpatine wins. What a load of shit.

What bothers me about how they handled Rey's heritage was not just her taking the Skywalker name despite not deserving it, but the fact that I can't help but think that Jar Jar Abrams did this because he attempted to please as many different Rey origin camps in the fanbase as possible.

Think about it, these idiots thought that by making Rey Palpatine's grandaughter with no name parents who eventually takes on the Skywalker name, they thought that it would please all the people in the Rey Skywalker, Rey Palpatine, and Rey the Nobody camps. But instead all it did was piss off everybody because of what you said in the bolded text. How they went about making her origin a mystery is a complete and utter mess.
 
I have been lurking this thread ever since the Galaxy's Edge fiasco and I have finally sign up and read 40 or so pages of content because I need my schadenfreude fix that bad, but Jesus fuck I'm dying from overdose. Who in the fuck thought this was a good idea? There's no words to express what it feels to see this garbage burning as hot as it cans, all while some assholes have the nerve to imply that this is even remotely good but then again this is a movie made by assholes to be watched by assholes.

Truly the only thing I'm looking forward is to see E;R and similar folks shit in this movie while the shills have nothing to latch on, isn't that sad? The only real entertainment that this movie provides comes from outside of it rather than in the movie itself, and the new "fans" doesn't even feel pleased! They were promised something that would leave all those haters crying, something that would finally prove all those manbabies that women are the future, something that would make all those queer kids proud of themselves and look what they got. YOU GOT NOTHING! YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!

Fuck Disney, Fuck JJ, Fuck KK, Fuck Iger, Fuck Rian, Fuck the "fans" that helped make this happen and more importantly FUCK STAR WARS.
 
The last 40 or so pages just make me stop and appreciate the care and effort Rebecca Sugar put into making Steven Universe a more cohesive, consistent world and setting than Disney and their billions. Yeah, character skin and height change from episode to episode but the story actually makes sense, it's paced relatively well and it actually respects and panders to the fanbase.

GUESS I'M A GEM NOW GUYS
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If you want to get a sense of how shitty this trilogy is; remember that the entire plot of the trilogy happens in the course of little over a year.

Which means the First Order only had control of the Galaxy for a year.

A year.

ONE GODDAMN YEAR.

Really? I had no idea. Did the First Order rule anything? Hell, I thought they just floated around looking for Luke Skywalker, because they're shitty antagonists.
 
It's hilariously ironic. The old EU, with all its stories and lore, makes Sidious less impressive than the Nu-EU:

Old Sidious:
* Genuinely afraid of Vader
* Gets his ass kicked by Galen Marek
* Has competition for the most powerful Sith Lord of all time in Darth Vitiate, Exar Kun, and Darth Krayt
* Comes back to life only to get rekt by Luke, then shot in the back by Han

Nu Sdious:
* Views Vader's growing independence with amused indifference
* No one can compete with him post-Revenge of the Sith
* Undisputed master of the Dark Side. The Son and Momin are his bitches
* Comes back to life, plays Luke like a fiddle, lets his granddaughter spit upon the name of Skywalker, and laughs as his spirit continues to dwell in the galaxy

The Virgin Sidious vs. the Chad Palpatine
 
I know this is kind of a tangent, considering how Rise of Skywalker is still very, very fresh, but...
Enjoy a couple of panels from the comic, where Disney Luke is so stupid that he thinks a conwoman outright telling him that she's not a Jedi is some kind of test.
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The last 40 or so pages just make me stop and appreciate the care and effort Rebecca Sugar put into making Steven Universe a more cohesive, consistent world and setting than Disney and their billions. Yeah, character skin and height change from episode to episode but the story actually makes sense, it's paced relatively well and it actually respects and panders to the fanbase.

GUESS I'M A GEM NOW GUYS
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Great, it's going to be weeks before I can coax him out of the den, and by then I expect he'll be binge-watching old Sonic cartoons.
 
When you make a movie using a sacred mythos, you need to fit the movie to the mythos. Forcing the mythos to conform to the movie will not only fail, people will hate you for daring to do it. The Mandalorian understands this and the Sequel Trilogy does not.

*edit* and to pile onto this, in Ancient Greece, Theater was a form of not just entertainment, but also as a way to impart moral lessons and the teachings of the Gods. When you make a theater play involving Zeus, Aphrodite, and Hera, you can certainly turn it into a love triangle drama, but under no circumstances could you make Zeus come across as a bumbling idiot hermit drinking blue tard cum and being unwilling to assert himself and instead just lets Aphrodite and Hera run roughshod all over him. Not only would this be out of Characther for Zeus, it would be heretical sacrilege and the showrunners of such a play would probably have ended up lynched. Kinda like what many of us want to do to Rian Johnson for his depiction of Luke Skywalker.
Gotta agree there; the treatment that characters like Luke, Han and Darth Vader have received under Disney really does feel almost sacrilegious in some sense. They really are mythic archetypes, communicating timeless truths about the human condition, and as such, to cannibalize such characters and their stories for cheap, Current Year "woke" points carries the stench of desecration about it.

But have you seen the droids from the Vong's galaxy?
I had the opportunity to think about this a little bit more at work today and it occurs to me that we're diverging along the the lines of the Star-Wars-is-Science-Fiction versus Star-Wars-is-Space-Fantasy debate. The Vong, I would argue, are the GFFA's orcs (dark, more bestial reflections of ourselves), with all of the attendant themes and questions that such creatures give rise to (are they all evil, why are they evil, are we no better than them if we respond in kind, etc), while the Silentium and so forth are very much more in the traditional sci-fi vein of encountering/doing battle with hostile, incomprehensible intelligences and decidedly non-humanoid biologies.

I can't believe I missed this post. You can't tell me that Traitor wasn't one of the most compelling pieces of Star Wars media. His insistence on saving the Vong is what drives the end of the series, too, and the fact that he achieved that goal speaks to the uniqueness of NJO.
That's all true, but none of it makes Jacen any less aggravating. Like the NJO series as a whole, there was some great potential in his wrestling with the moral questions behind the war, but the implementation often left something to be desired (particularly the whole debacle on Centerpoint Station during the Battle of Fondor; if someone had shot Jacen dead on the spot at that point I would have cheered out loud). The worst of it was that while, after the awesome Traitor, he seemed to get better for a while, he quickly disappeared back up his own ass again in the post-NJO books, declaring himself a Sith and starting the third major galactic conflict in four decades on the basis of some vision of saving the galaxy from itself.

The writer for that also did the much better novelization of the Revenge of the Sith, Matthew Stover IIRC. He was one of the few writers to really have a concept of the scale of the Star Wars Galaxy, as opposed to Mandolorian Syphilitis riddled Karen "3 Million Clonetroopers" Travisty.
Didn't someone recap/explain the Minimalist vs Maximalist controversy in detail a week or two ago? That it stemmed from the unexplained ambiguity of exactly what the several-million "units" that the Kaminoans referred to in terms of clone production represented, individual clones or larger military formations?

Clone numbers notwithstanding, however, can someone please at least attempt to provide specific examples of what exactly constitutes "Mandalorian Syphilitis"? Because from my perspective, it never seems to amount to anything more than certain Jedi famboys getting assmad over the idea that a Jedi could be defeated/killed by a non-Force-user, or that the PT Jedi Order was a corrupt and hypocritical institution (which it was, quite explicitly by Lucas's own depiction).

You guys are overthinking it. People wanted humans in Star Wars to be able to breed the hot blue alien ladies, so they made it so. I think humans and Togruta can have offspring too. I can't remember if that's true for Mirialans as well.
Mirialans are just green ("near") humans, though.

Lol so they turned Carrie Fisher's daughter into the BBQ rep. Also fucking hell that's all far worse than I could've imagined.
Making Billie Lourde's character a lesbian almost feels like they wanted to take the extinction of the Skywalker line to the meta level. 🤔

just give me the wampa horror movie, i dont care anymore.
Do that story where storm troopers opened the cage that the wampas were in after cp3o took of the label. An hour and a half of storm troopers trying to run away in the snow tunnels. Then as the finale the clone commander of the squad has a face off with the one armed wampa from Empite in a big exceptional individual fight, ending with both dying like in "The Grey" and then we have darth vader come in at the end to remake how fucked up these tunnels are.
No more nerfing Stormtroopers, please.

It really hurts to look back at this trailer with naive hope that new Star Wars would be a great or at least decent thing, and now it’s become...whatever it is now.
I was honestly left feeling pretty uneasy at the time. The news that Lucas had sold out to Disney left me hoping for the best but preparing for the worst, as the saying goes, and the trailer only added fuel to that fire (in particular, I can recall taking an instant dislike to almost all of the film's visual design, from the beach-ball droid to Daisy Ridley's stupidly complicated hairstyle to the duck-faced NuTroopers to Butt Dameron's top-heavy-looking X-Wing helmet). I did see The Force Awakens during its theatrical release, but only at the behest of my then-fiancée (and in retrospect, I suspect that my inability to keep from scoffing at how overpowered Rey was probably set the snowball rolling on our eventual break-up).
 
I know this is kind of a tangent, considering how Rise of Skywalker is still very, very fresh, but...
Enjoy a couple of panels from the comic, where Disney Luke is so stupid that he thinks a conwoman outright telling him that she's not a Jedi is some kind of test.
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So is this supposed to take place between A New Hope and Empire? Luke has decided to stop being a big shot with the Rebels and slum it with some rando chick for a very important mission, because reasons?
 
So is this supposed to take place between A New Hope and Empire? Luke has decided to stop being a big shot with the Rebels and slum it with some rando chick for a very important mission, because reasons?

Apparently Luke went from being fresh faced and eager to jaded over the course of a day or so after his glorious coronation.
 
First off, Wow. This thread is moving at lightspeed. I would not be surprised if we add another hundred pages in a day.
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Now for a fucking faggoty feels post

When I first came to lurk at this thread a couple of years ago, Star Wars was still the last pop-culture thing that I had continued to consume in any amount into my adulthood. It had a grip on me since I first saw A New Hope in theaters when I was a teen. Then when Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy brought me into the EU, I was hooked.

Despite some bad ideas, and even worse execution on some of the EU and the Prequels, I stuck with the franchise. Even if it was the junk food equivalent of story telling in many cases, it was my guilty pleasure.

Then Disney took over, and wiped the EU out of existence. The years that I had poured into the franchise were now dedicated to a dead-end. That was my "childhood crushing" moment.

Since then, I have come to have a twisted gratefulness for the Mouse. To be frank, It killed a chronic addiction to this form of escapist media.

Aside from coming in here a few times a week to watch catch some schadenfreude from the Star Wars that I used to know burning, and burning in return its master. I have been spending more time doing shit that benefits me and my family instead of spending 5 hours reading the newest book.

I know that sounds pretentious as all hell, and I don't mean to shit in anyone's sandbox, but that's my piece.



TL;DR I have become my grandfather, and I am OK with that.
 
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