Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Ow The Edge]

What amuses me the most about this whole debacle is that in nucannon Palpatine WON in the end. He exterminated the Skywalker bloodline and hijacked their name and legacy for his own.

 

[ZehnBoat]

You know it really does bear emphasising how Disney somehow managed to make an anorexic plank who must be 98% gristle look like a fucking hambeast

this is what i see

 

[verissimus]

This movie is such a motherfucking catastrophe that literally fucked up Disney's stock with his sheer badness. Think about this: the most powerful media corporation in the planet now has less value because their movie is such a fucking failure. They got it coming

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To quote Megatron : Fall. Fall!

 

[Optimus Prime]

All right so let me get this straight.

They're tearing this terrible movie to shreds because they think that Disney Lucasfilm capitulated to the fans in making a movie that pissed them off worse?

And here's the part where it just proves they're clutching at straw men arguments:

This isn't the first time a film that was supposed to be good to these people...wasn't.

Transformers: The Last Knight. Literally everything that is happening to RoS right now? It happened with TLK, right down to the most feverent of ass-mad autists who pratically worshiped Age of Extinction claiming that it was the critics and the anti-fans that forced Paramount to change the film...even though there's more than ample proof that Paramount, and particularly Lorenzo diBonaventura, gave no shits because they thought China was a lock following the success of AoE (after basically getting public deals with the fucking Chinese government to ensure this) and they could simply throw whatever half-baked schlock on the screen in complete ignorance of AoE's "mystery boxes" since that was genuinely all people cared about apparently; getting answers to the bullshit AoE set up that never actually had answers and was easily recognizable as such with about five seconds of applied critical thinking.

With Star Wars? TLJ was the Age of Extinction, to RoS being The Last Knight.

You don't fucking learn from history, then you're damn well going to fucking repeat it.

What the hell was that shit with the Snoke clones? Another retar.ded mystery box that J.J tried to push in?

No, it's literally them desperately trying to explain who the fuck Snoke was. Because without the Snoke clones illustrating it was just more Palpatine bullshit, Snoke literally exists for no reason across two films.

Unfortunately, I think this won't cause a massive dent in Disney's armor.

My chemistry students actually think that the The Last Jedi was a great movie. This is who Disney is appealing to: people without experience of what is actually great.

One of my good online friends also thinks TLJ is a good film, so much that he recognizes it's not an opinion he shares with most of the rest of the civilized world.

Out of respect, I haven't spoiled him on RoS. He wants to experience it blind...his funeral.

 

[Toast Sandwich]

The Hollywood shills: "ThErE Is No fEmAle RePrEsEnTaTiOn In MeDiA!"

Meanwhile:

Sorry but it has to be pointed out: This kind of response isn't the epic own you think it is. More than anything, the people pushing the agenda want you to buy into their framing of the issue actually being a worthwhile and valid concern. They want you to accept that it's something they should already have and they want you to be pointing out their wins.

Today we have male geeks and nerds holding up characters like Wonder Woman as the paragon of what a "strong woman" actually should be, and only because other modern woman characters being pushed happen to be more obnoxious. They have no awareness at all that Wonder Woman is actually the brainchild of a male feminist psychologist from the 1940s. That's before even the "second wave" of feminism that everyone now accepts so easily. The goal of the character? To promote the idea of the "strong woman" in the first place. The creator was quoted as saying “Frankly, Wonder Woman is psychological propaganda for the new type of woman who, I believe, should rule the world.” It wasn't just something within the comics that was the propaganda, it was the existence of the character itself, to be something that boys grew up with and accepted as how women could act. You don't get modern characters today like Rey or Captain Marvel without the ones that came before them. The goal has always been "more", and the goal has always been about making a revolutionary mindset be the norm.

Continuing to accept the propaganda on any level at all rather than just mocking it outright will always be a win to them.

The Surprising Origin Story of Wonder Woman

The history of the comic-book superhero's creation seven decades ago has been hidden away—until now

www.smithsonianmag.com

 

[Kane Lives]

And here's the part where it just proves they're clutching at straw men arguments:

This isn't the first time a film that was supposed to be good to these people...wasn't.

Transformers: The Last Knight. Literally everything that is happening to RoS right now? It happened with TLK, right down to the most feverent of ass-mad autists who pratically worshiped Age of Extinction claiming that it was the critics and the anti-fans that forced Paramount to change the film...even though there's more than ample proof that Paramount, and particularly Lorenzo diBonaventura, gave no shits because they thought China was a lock following the success of AoE (after basically getting public deals with the fucking Chinese government to ensure this) and they could simply throw whatever half-baked schlock on the screen in complete ignorance of AoE's "mystery boxes" since that was genuinely all people cared about apparently; getting answers to the bullshit AoE set up that never actually had answers and was easily recognizable as such with about five seconds of applied critical thinking.

With Star Wars? TLJ was the Age of Extinction, to RoS being The Last Knight.

You don't fucking learn from history, then you're damn well going to fucking repeat it.

For informational purposes, how badly did TLK do? I never followed the Transformer series, and only watched the first... second one? The ones with Megan Fox in it because yes tiddies.

And explosions too. That too.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

That's what Disney gets for not making 2D animated films anymore.

More like Complacency. I mean the MCU movies are gonna go down the shitter and they are relaying on soulless remakes and identity politics. This was long overdue.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Sorry but it has to be pointed out: This kind of response isn't the epic own you think it is. More than anything, the people pushing the agenda want you to buy into their framing of the issue actually being a worthwhile and valid concern. They want you to accept that it's something they should already have and they want you to be pointing out their wins.

Today we have male geeks and nerds holding up characters like Wonder Woman as the paragon of what a "strong woman" actually should be, and only because other modern woman characters being pushed happen to be more obnoxious. They have no awareness at all that Wonder Woman is actually the brainchild of a male feminist psychologist from the 1940s. That's before even the "second wave" of feminism that everyone now accepts so easily. The goal of the character? To promote the idea of the "strong woman" in the first place. The creator was quoted as saying “Frankly, Wonder Woman is psychological propaganda for the new type of woman who, I believe, should rule the world.” It wasn't just something within the comics that was the propaganda, it was the existence of the character itself, to be something that boys grew up with and accepted as how women could act. You don't get modern characters today like Rey or Captain Marvel without the ones that came before them. The goal has always been "more", and the goal has always been about making a revolutionary mindset be the norm.

Continuing to accept the propaganda on any level at all rather than just mocking it outright will always be a win to them.

The Surprising Origin Story of Wonder Woman

The history of the comic-book superhero's creation seven decades ago has been hidden away—until now

www.smithsonianmag.com

That's odd, I've heard since the 80's that Wonder Woman was the creator's Bondage fantasies put out there for everyone to enjoy. He flat out admitted it.

Wonder Woman was based on the SEX CULT and bondage orgies of her creator

WONDER WOMAN creator William Marston lived in sexual arrangement with three other women but also organised bondage parties and sex orgies.

www.express.co.uk

Yup, page after page of Google hits that the guy was a B&D lover who surrounded himself with woke feminists of the time and let them help shape Wonder Woman all so he could have nasty orgies.

 

[AtomicAgeBoy]

Luke and Leia from the flashback and yes, Leia beats Luke

 

[Dom Cruise]

Not that I know of. Only thing that happened was that the cast of Plan 9 went to GE to try out the new Kylo Ren ride 2 or so days ago.

Aside from that, the only actual event I know of that GE had planned was an expansion around 2022 for the next trilogy, but considering how this clustercuk is turning out, who knows what'll happen with that. Also I remember when GE first opened up people defended Disney's choice of not using the places or characters from any SW movie or media because they thought it would tie-in to Plan 9, yet none of it is in Plan 9 and its completely meaningless. The movie didn't even use the GE planet as the Resistance base despite supposedly being their safe haven, instead JJ just uses a random planet called Ajan Kloss (talk about no communication within Disney-Lucasfilm). Galaxy's Edge is completely unnecessary to anything. And the park's "star character" Vi Moradi isn't even a character in IX despite the park claiming that she's the one that helped recruit new talent and forces for the Resistance or some shit.
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Wow, black women’s hair and menstruation IN SPAAAAAACE!

What a fucking weirdo, this is seriously who Disney hires to write Star Wars books?

 

[Travoltron]

I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable about films as the real fanatics, but how unprecedented is this trend of disney releasing ancillary novels and comics to basically explain the numerous plotholes in the films?

To be fair, Lucasfilm was doing this back in the prequel era, too.
For example, all that Syfo-Dias nonsense in Attack of the Clones.

 

[That Chris Guy]

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Wrong topic. Steven Universe has its own thread.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Horses on a spaceship confirmed

 

[Toast Sandwich]

That's odd, I've heard since the 80's that Wonder Woman was the creator's Bondage fantasies put out there for everyone to enjoy. He flat out admitted it.

The stuff with the lasso was a subversion of the old-timey Western trope of damsels in distress being lasso'd and tied up on train tracks etc. It was all about women being stronk enough to be the hero themselves and not needing to be saved by some man. It's all in the article iirc.

 

[AtomicAgeBoy]

OOOH FUCK ,I FORGOT. In the end when they celebrate, orange yoda comes to Chewie and says you deserve it and gives a medal to Chewie.
MEMBER NEW HOPE WHERE HE DIDNT GET A MEDAL!?!?!?
Anyway this whole thing comes off akward as fuck because after what chewie did to help the resistance, giving him a medal for his efforts seems fucking insulting and weird. Like giving a retarded kid a participation throphy.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

I don't want to get more stormfront than I normally am but Jews have a very matriarch dominant society and weird sexual hang ups.

Why is this important? I think it has some influence on Kasdan and JJs emasculation of Luke and female power fantasies. KK is just a willing goy coconspirator.

 

[Jacques Strap]

To be fair, Lucasfilm was doing this back in the prequel era, too.
For example, all that Syfo-Dias nonsense in Attack of the Clones.

to be honest I never really went into any of the EU stuff. I've heard that clone wars in particular helps to flesh out some of the more underwritten characters in the prequels (aka all of them)
The villains other than Palpatine just felt so thin. darth maul has I think 1 line? dooku/grevious both suffered because they were introduced with barely any context, which like you said, I'm sure was expanded upon in other media.

 

[School of Fish]

This makes me wonder one thing, how long can Disney even do this shit?

So far, Star Wars is a bust for them since it's clear that they ran this beloved film series into the ground.

There's also their superhero movies; how long until they can suck the Marvel Cinematic Universe dry until people suffer from superhero fatigue too?

And they don't even make 2D animated movies anymore. I mean shit, the United States barely even makes any 2D animated films anymore that its now getting their asses kicked by Japan where every year they make plenty of new anime films that are animated in 2D that make plenty of money every year too.

Honestly, American entertainment has really become a shadow of its former self and it saddens me too.

 

[Markorian]

To be fair, Lucasfilm was doing this back in the prequel era, too.
For example, all that Syfo-Dias nonsense in Attack of the Clones.

I don't think any of that is as essential to episode 2 making sense as anything absent from plan 9 from a galaxy far away is. That's more fans getting to do official fanfiction of what they think something should be, rather than it really being planned.

 

[Judge Holden]

Big Boi Boyega openly declaring for Team JJ in the coming Nu-Wars Civil War

John Boyega Says Rian Johnson "Could Have Done Better" With Star Wars…

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And he is packing a fully loaded race card

He added, "But I will be honest in saying and I think that they could have done better with it, especially with Finn and Rose. You know, as a black person, you're going to feel a big type of weight. You had nothing to do with Rey and Kylo... the story just wasn't here for me with Finn and Rose. I definitely enjoyed- I didn't notice that on set, it was only when I watched it. But I enjoyed the experience of making it."