Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[BrunoMattei]

It's a very convincing theory and, I'm not saying I disagree, but how would you explain shows like Sailor Moon, or the entire magical girl genre? True, they have a lot of male fans, but they were designed for women in mind, and they have huge female fanbases.

Winx club has been on the air for years now, it makes a lot of money given it's basically a toy commercial for doll, and it's a show about women using magic to fight villains.

I thought most Sailor Moon fans were pedophiles?

 

[Shield Breaker]

Don't just don't. It is by far one of the worst Star Wars movies out there. Don't spend your money on this shitshow, stay home, read a book, hell go out and throw $20 into the Salvation Army bucket as your money would be put to better use. I watched the cam version and it is indeed a rush, forced, hot mess of (EXPOSITION+CHASE)^n until the movie ends with the most inappropriate lines uttered in these movies.

You do you, but for me, that cam was enough to tell friends and family "Fuck that noise, if I wanted to see an explosion movie with shit plot I'll go watch a godzilla movie and at least be entertained instead of sensory overloaded"



I don't speak "Bomb Wire" what does that say?

That is not Bomb Wire that is No Poo in the Loo.

 

[The Nothingness]

The "I'm all the Sith"/"I'm all the Jedi" exchange kind of sounds like a rip-off of the "I am inevitable"/"I am Iron Man". So did Disney steal from itself?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

The "I'm all the Sith"/"I'm all the Jedi" exchange kind of sounds like a rip-off of the "I am inevitable"/"I am Iron Man". So did Disney steal from itself?

More like Jew Jew and the Justice League writer were desperate to have a line for an epic fight but failed to capture the emotional impact of that line.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

The "I'm all the Sith"/"I'm all the Jedi" exchange kind of sounds like a rip-off of the "I am inevitable"/"I am Iron Man". So did Disney steal from itself?

Oh god, if Disney and Abrams think that THAT dialogue packs the same emotional (and rewarding) punch as the "I am Iron Man" scene in Endgame, then ... I don't know what the hell to say. lol.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Now here's a fun exercise for the watcher:

Could Plan IX have worked if the pacing was better and it was spread out over two movies that slowly build up to the Palpatine reveal?

I would always be bothered with Palpatine being back, but here and there, the movie almost doesn't suck and it might have worked out a bit better with more time to develope the plot and characters, but the thing we got was atrocious with almost no passable scenes in between.

And as a little sidenote: Based Klaud has the same number of scenes as the Knights of Ren, I think.

Mr Nostalgia review guy and his brother give their takes.

Can you sum this up, I don't want to click that video and suffer through their bumbling rant...

 

[Salubrious]

This movie had no chance of being good short of Deadpool killing Rey or something.

 

[Shmuckleburg]

Got snookered into being disgusted by this in theaters (old man won free movie tickets, failed to convince him to watch Mr. Rogers instead so I took the piss and went in a Starfleet shirt), and I need confirmation on this one. Are my eyes just shit or did JJ add a second hyperspace ram over Endor? Even in the camrips you can see the weird streak of light and debris blowback.

 

[JambledUpWords]

It's universal concept that people regardless of gender resonate with well written relatable badass characters.

This is why Kylo should have been the main focus of the series instead of Rey. Having more development in his story would have made him inspiring (especially if the main theme for him was redemption). Kylo freaking stopped bullets in mid air in The Force Awakens. Rey is just a boring Mary Sue that managed to outdo Luke Skywalker in Episode VII.

 

[Megaroad 2012]

I'm back from it. It was aight.

Life goes on.

 

[Reverend]

This movie had no chance of being good short of Deadpool killing Rey or something.

Ryan Reynolds makes every movie better. Every.Single.Movie.

 

[DogEatDogFood]

This is was the last TLJ shill that closed lines. With the exception of Cinematography Robert, nobody on the Internet likes this fucking movie. So beautiful: this is the result of not planning a trilogy with anticipation

Edit: He actually admits that the Sequels weren't that good on the video. That's nice of him

 

[Bagronkleton]

They should do an animated Thrawn Trilogy. Have sound-alikes for Han and Leia, and let Mark do Luke. I would actually buy that.

Do not remind them of the existence of the grand Admiral. Let him go gracefully into the night.

They'll probably turn him into some fat fuckin tranny or some shit.

 

[BipolarPon]

Do not remind them of the existence of the grand Admiral. Let him go gracefully into the night.

They'll probably turn him into some fat fuckin tranny or some shit.

No he appears in rebels but he gets tentacled raped by space whales. I wish I was making that up.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

I'm gonna guess Kennedy is done, Rian is done.

They will be given golden parachutes and publicly thanked for their contribution to Star Wars. Search your feelings you know it to be true.

 

[ZMOT]

Could Plan IX have worked if the pacing was better and it was spread out over two movies that slowly build up to the Palpatine reveal?

no, the same people that shat out nuwars would still be in charge.

 

[Grumbo]

More like Jew Jew and the Justice League writer were desperate to have a line for an epic fight but failed to capture the emotional impact of that line.

This is where I wish Kylo was the main character.
Like, Put Ben Solo is in this scene and instead if that line he says "And I'm a Jedi, like my family before me" or something like that.
Have the actual Skywalkers rise one last time and the like.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Especially, since one of the most hype-up Star Wars game was 1313, before Disney cancelled the game for no fucking reason. Instead, I think the Mandalorian is kind of a spirit successor to 1313. Only instead of the Rise of Boba Fett, we get a different Mandalorian bounty-hunter since Boba Fett "died" in Return of the Jedi according to Disney.

Episode 5 of The Mandalorian hinted that he's still on the loose. When that vague, shadowy figure walks out of the Dune Sea at the end of the episode, the jingling of spurs can be heard, and that's a sound that in all of Star Wars has only ever been paired with one character: Boba Fett.

Even tho I think Boba Fett never cared much about Mandolarians and their culture, it was mostly himself that mattered and thats it, a bounty hunter first of all.

That's true. Even the very earliest mentions of Fett play up the fact that he really only cares about being paid well. If he does appear in The Mandalorian, it'll be interesting to see if there's some kind of conflict between him and the show's Mando tribe, since being a self-interested loner really clashes with their philosophy of being Mandalorian.

I don't think it's even about fett or mandalorians in general. you could put a jedi in that role. fuck, even a stormtrooper would work.
as someone mentioned earlier it's just a stoic guy not talking much protecting a baby. it's that fucking simple.

True, but I do think that the Mandalorian culture adds to the appeal of the show. The popularity of fictional races like the Klingons, Predators, Krogan and so forth indicate that people definitely like Proud Warrior Race Guys.

I think one of the best decisions made(whether intentional or unintentional) was killing the Boba Fett movie.

I would like to have seen what Joe Johnston had in mind for the character when he was gunning for the director's chair a few years ago. He helped create the character, after all.

Instead, they got smart people that reconceptualized the character in a heroic/knightly way. I can't root for Boba Fett, but I can root for Mando.

You just need to pit him against bad-er people, and provide a hapless (and less morally gray) sidekick to serve as the audience POV character, as was done fairly succesfully in K.W. Jeter's Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy.

Why not both?

It's really hard to write female lead characters *in action movies* who are both relatable and have a satisfying character arc.

Yes, Ripley was great in the first two Alien movies, Sarah Connor was excellent as a scared waitress turned heavily armed survivalist lady in the first two Terminator films. These exceptions don't disprove the rule.

Why is it a rule? Because we're a sexually dimorphic species that hates women doesn't generally like seeing the smaller, weaker and more biologically valuable half of our species put in danger.

The hero's journey is nearly always a male hero's journey, because the sort of heroism fantasy exists to mythologize is masculine.

Who goes downstairs with a flashlight when there's a bump in the night? It's probably not the wife, is it? Unless divorce is on the cards.

Who fantasizes about fighting dragons or space wizards or aliens or whatever to save/win attractive royalty of the opposite sex? Not so much girls, amirite?

It's hard to adapt the heroic protagonist template to women, because it's not really made for them. In real life, women are rarely *physically* heroic, for good biological reasons. If they were, we probably wouldn't have survived as a species.

(It's interesting that the most successful badass incarnations of both Ripley and Connor were motivated by maternal instinct - mama bear defending her cubs is a relatable and emotionally satisfying reason for feminine fierceness)

In recent years we've seen quite a lot of Whedonian wisecracking, buttkicking waifs. I don't mean to be unkind to male fans of Buffy or whatever, but they seem a little soy-y. It's a masturbatory fantasy with relatively narrow appeal - mainly to socially awkward nerds. Mila Jojovich has made about 58 Resident Evil movies and they seem quite successful, but that's a cultural niche.

Star Wars became a pop culture juggernaut because it used to tap into something much more mainstream and deeply rooted in the collective unconscious of normal human beings.

The young man who leaves his backwater village to seek his fortune and test his courage in a wider, more dangerous world is so ingrained in our historic experience as humans it might as well be encoded in our genetic memory. It's the story of every curious caveman who wanted to know what was beyond the mountains.

You can do a gender swap on that story if you like, just as you could flip the roles in a romance story and have a male lead pursued by two women. It's just a lot more difficult to do it well in a way that will satisfy a mass audience.

Thread-winner, right here.

It's a very convincing theory and, I'm not saying I disagree, but how would you explain shows like Sailor Moon, or the entire magical girl genre? True, they have a lot of male fans, but they were designed for women in mind, and they have huge female fanbases.

Winx club has been on the air for years now, it makes a lot of money given it's basically a toy commercial, and it's a show about women using magic to fight villains.

Aren't such shows more focused on character relationships, though? With the fighting being more incidental in the grander scheme of things?

They should do an animated Thrawn Trilogy. Have sound-alikes for Han and Leia, and let Mark do Luke. I would actually buy that.

Some brave souls are already hard at work on that:

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[Jeb-sama]

Would the film have done better if it was just two hours of baby yeed?

Rey was created for fucking WatchMojo top ten clickbait lists.

THE TOP TEN MOST POWERFUL STAR WARS CHARACTERS IN HISTORY

Oh wow, I forgot that channel existed. Seems like I was recommended a watchmojo video on everything I watched five years ago, but I don't think I've seen one for years now.

 

[itskaon]

The consoomer has spoken, and the product has been CONSOOMED

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