Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Mongo0o]

What the heck, what the hell did she do to provoke this? I'm a little out of the loop on this.

Her name is Megan. (autistics always obsess with the name Megan). Someone took a video of her working at the ride and uploaded it to /tv/. It became obvious that she was on the spectrum by her facial movements and speech. They're now all obsessing over her because they think she's an attainable gf. She had to delete all her social media because of the stalking. There's also now dozens of fan art about her on the board. https://youtu.be/B8Sk_riaISY

 

[verissimus]

As much as J.J's given shit here, I think the original framework laid down in TFA could have worked:

- Although vague, Snoke was an interesting villain that certainly had potential. Where did he come from? What history was between him and Luke? Why did Kylo turn? He very well could have been built into a character that carried the trilogy.

- Rey would have been better received if her and the whole crew (sans Solo) had been saved by Luke at the end of TFA, as she wouldn't have been powerful enough to defeat Kylo from the very first movie. Even so, she was still salvageable through humbling in the sequel via the original ending. That part could be considered an Empire retread, but fuck me I wouldn't loathe her as much as I do now.

- Finn with a more significant role could have helped this trilogy a great deal. Delving into the perspective of these new stormtroopers of the First Order, their abduction and mental conditioning; something to complement all the Jedi hubbub in-between. Maybe an overarching narrative in which they serve a more important role. Hell, if this new trilogy had fucked off with "The Force is Female", focused on "The Force is With Us" ("us" being a catch-all term for "everyone"), and kept holding Rey and Finn as dual protagonists throughout, this would have gone down a lot more smoothly regardless of sex or ethnicity. And that's without saying anything about Poe.

- Captain Phasma was still alive by the end of TFA and could have been built up much further in the sequel, dealing with her own defeat to Finn and being at the forefront of the First Order's offensive. Her presence really would have made more of a difference to Finn's story, and could have obviously overlapped into Rey and the others had she been given a chance to do well, anything.

- Likewise, Hux serving as a dual antagonist with Kylo would have helped. Turning him into a joke made the First Order into one by extension. I'm sure to nu-Wars fans, they still looked threatening, but to anyone else the menacing nature was gone.

- Rose didn't exist. 'Nuff said.

Rian (and to an extent KK) squashed any chance of IX being potentially good shy of discrediting VIII as a Force fever dream, but Disney would never do anything like that as they'd have to admit they fucked up. Make no mistake, if VIII hadn't been touched by Rian the trilogy probably still wouldn't be anywhere near as good as the OT, but it could at least have been satisfying. It could even have been rearranged and still involved the deaths of Luke and Leia somewhere, the potential was indeed there to wrap it all up. But TLJ fucked all that up and closed off every possible avenue that didn't require an immediate retcon and ensured that characters both old and new were utterly humiliated before dying or being written into a corner with no escape.

In short, J.J's worst contribution besides the retread was giving too much agency to Rey in TFA. Rian's worst contribution was running everything into the shitter while telling us how special he considers himself to be.

As much as this seemed like a good effort on your part, what you wrote wouldn't have been good enough (better than we got, but that isn't saying much)

1) Yes, it would have been nice to have seen Luke save Rey et. al. asses at the end of TFA, but that beg the question as to what happened to him in the first place. How did he know to show up in the nick of time? If he could show up in the nick of time, why wouldn't he have been there before (unless he was captured). Put simply, how do you still have Luke without even slightly nerfing him?

2) I refuse to see how Finn's "story" no matter how interesting it could have been spun could be spun over the course of 3 movies never mind 1 especially if they don't give him force powers or make him some love interest. Seriously, and I don't mean to be an ass to you personally for saying this, but I really like to know from all the people who claim Finn's story was so interesting/had potential, could have been stretched out to 3 movies. And keep in mind, you have to additionally make his story arc matter to the overall plot as well.

3) Kylo and Snoke, just based on the conception behind the character alone, is proof that Luke, Han, and Leia are failures. Again, I can't stress this enough, there was no way they could have "continued" the so-called Skywalker saga without even slightly damaging the main cast of the original trilogy because you essentially have to both A) introduce a new threat and B) introduce a new protagonist to deal with the new threat(s). If you do both of those, you immediately damage the old cast no matter what even if they could have been helpful to the new characters (although that's preferred to utterly annihilating them).

4) I don't see how Hux would have been needed as a secondary antagonist, at least not for the whole trilogy. For the first film sure especially if they had gotten someone like Charles a-lion-doesn't-concern-himself-with-the-opinions-of-the-sheep Dance in the first place and played his character like he did with Tywin Lannister.

 

[BipolarPon]

That poor girl...

I've heard horror stories of specific cast members being stalked by creepy people in these amusement parks in out of them to for being attracted, or for petty reasons. I mean some members on this site already have this creepy stalker-like alog attitude. Which puts me off as well.

Her name is Megan. (autistics always obsess with the name Megan). Someone took a video of her working at the ride and uploaded it to /tv/. It became obvious that she was on the spectrum by her facial movements and speech. They're now all obsessing over her because they think she's an attainable gf. She had to delete all her social media because of the stalking. There's also now dozens of fan art about her on the board.

It's hard enough being a cast member at Disney. Also a lot of people with autism are past off for acting roles even if said character is autistic,which leads to alot of misconeptions about the disorder in media. I'm actually surprised she managed to get the job. I don't want to be a moral fag, and sperg more about how wrong this all is. I just hope she's okay.

I'll leave it at that.

 

[DogEatDogFood]

4chan is still stalking that autistic girl that's working at the new attraction down in Florida.

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Doing this kind of crap IRL is the most cringe shit you can imagine.

 

[Chester Rigby]

Ever heard the expression "too many cooks..."?

This movie is the personification.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I don't know why Hideo Kojima wants to do movies, I mean games are better and more thought out than most movies these days.

 

[BlueCandle]

- Although vague, Snoke was an interesting villain that certainly had potential. Where did he come from? What history was between him and Luke? Why did Kylo turn? He very well could have been built into a character that carried the trilogy.

iirc the way they designed Snoke was that they created a 3d bust of a man similar to what you would see with a roman statue, and then fucked with it until it was warped into something horrific. I liked that because it made it seems like his experience mastering the dark side had physical consequences on his body, leaving him disfigured and hideous but incredibly powerful force-wise.

I even liked his stupid golden robe in tlj because it showed that he tries to compensate for his appearance by dressing in lavish expensive clothing. He was a step up from the emperor because he was actually really threatening in a real wtf kind of way. Like he looks and sounds like he's about to die, but you don't really know what this Quasimodo looking fuck is capable of, and does a lot more than just sitting and giggling and going 'ah this is all a part of my plan'.

But no, throw him the fuck out, who gives a shit about giving our new characters depth? Get whoever is still alive from the original cast and just bolt them onto the script. Fuck this movie, kill the past indeed.

 

[verissimus]

I don't know why Hideo Kojima wants to do movies, I mean games are better and more thought out than most movies these days.

That and he and/or his work would be crucified by the woke crowd assuming he wants to produce a movie aimed strictly at us.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

I personally blame Johnson, Kennedy, and Iger for this abomination. Johnson for writing the shitfest he did, Kennedy for letting Johnson have so much control over the project that he wrote the fucking thing then went with what I'm very sure was his first draft, and Iger for not making sure his underling hoes weren't pulling any bullshit.
Johnson had never directed anything this big before. He shouldn't even have been hired for such an important project, let alone given free reign over a multi-billion dollar franchise. Kennedy shouldn't have been allowed to decide that Johnson should have that sort of power. Iger should have been keeping an eye on that shit.


And what the fuck, 4chan? Leave that girl alone you creepy little speds. She's dine nothing to you.

 

[That Chris Guy]

I don't think Rian should take all the blame here given Disney and Kathleen Kennedy approved of everything he's done with no question, and no one bothered to correct him on anything. Mark my word, Episode IX would've been completely different if no one had any hate towards The Last Jedi.

That is true, but as a comparison as to which director fucked up the most, I would say it was largely on Rian. The most respectful thing I think he did for TLJ was ask if the Holdo maneuver would affect any pre-established canon.

As an addendum, I don't think Rian is responsible for Rey going nuts with power and having everything magically fall into place for her (or Leia Poppins for that matter). I think Kathleen had a large hand in that; my point was that she hadn't gone fully off the rails by the end of TFA.

 

[Remove Goat]

He unironically loved it, thank god I was unable to go. I don't think I could have lived seeing a giant gnome crying over "Rey Skywalker."

 

[Doctor of Autism]

And now here's Mr Nostalgia reviewer's spoiler review of star movie.

Rob is so insufferable here as he kept bringing up how Rian is so great, Doug I can agree with here.

 

[Nobunaga]

I don't know why Hideo Kojima wants to do movies, I mean games are better and more thought out than most movies these days.

Because kojima is a decent ideas guy that needs to be tard wrangled, fukushima used to do that and when he got killed by the yakuza you get shit like mgs 4: dude nanomachines, big boss is a fucking retard, gameplay zeroes and the phantom story

 

[Rotollo]

Rob is so insufferable here as he kept bringing up how Rian is so great, Doug I can agree with here.

I'd bet money that Rob is half the reason doug's shit gets insufferable

 

[ZehnBoat]

I don't know why Hideo Kojima wants to do movies, I mean games are better and more thought out than most movies these days.

because games weren't a thing when he was growing up
i would love to see what kind of movies he could make, but he's busy with a horror game and that's more important

 

[icecait]

The most respectful thing I think he did for TLJ was ask if the Holdo maneuver would affect any pre-established canon.

It completely invalidated every movie before it. Why build a Death Star when you could destroy an entire planet by hyperspace ramming a single Tie Fighter into it?

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

Mauler has actually finished (or at least close to finishing it) the first draft of his video on this abomination. We may just see it by the end of the year after all

 

[BipolarPon]

Rob is so insufferable here as he kept bringing up how Rian is so great, Doug I can agree with here.

So Rob always believed Lando was genderfluid and pansexual. Yes Rob is way more insufferable than Doug. I'm going to guess the Nc review will have a long drawn painful sketch of straw-man Star Wars fans whining about "muh childhood and calling Rey a Mary sue, and other insufferable bullshit to make us side with Doug and Rob about how good the Tlj really was and people are mad because sexism and 'Muh childhood'. And there's going to be a scene where NC goes up on his soap box, of some faux emotional speech about how we shouldn't complain and just consoom product.

 

[Travoltron]

And now here's Mr Nostalgia reviewer's spoiler review of star movie.

I don't think I can get through it. Rob is virtue signalling like mad, mocking fans in that annoying Douchey McNitpick voice.

 

[Slowboat to China]

2) I refuse to see how Finn's "story" no matter how interesting it could have been spun could be spun over the course of 3 movies never mind 1 especially if they don't give him force powers or make him some love interest. Seriously, and I don't mean to be an ass to you personally for saying this, but I really like to know from all the people who claim Finn's story was so interesting/had potential, could have been stretched out to 3 movies. And keep in mind, you have to additionally make his story arc matter to the overall plot as well.

As presented, Finn had no chance of being interesting. But there was potential in the idea of an ex-Stormtrooper overcoming brainwashing and trying to figure out how to live outside of the regimented world that twisted him when he was a child.

Ditch the Space Janitor crap and have him be a genuine child soldier and indoctrinated killer. Maybe he's set off by ... something or other and ends up in the hands of the Resistance, who try to rehabilitate him so they can get any inside information about the First Order that they can. His nemesis ends up being Captain Phasma, who was his commanding officer and lost a number of troops in the conflict where he changed sides, so she blames him for the loss of her men. Conflicting loyalties. Learning to be human and to trust. Trying to rehabilitate a guy who's been trained since childhood to be an emotionless murder-slave.

I think there was potential in this new trilogy. It didn't have to suck quite so hard.