Democrats Seek To Outlaw Suburban, Single-Family House Zoning, Calling It Racist And Bad For The Environment - Virginia doubles down on stupid

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LUKE ROSIAK INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER
December 23, 2019 3:52 PM ET
  • Virginia House Del. Ibraheem Samirah introduced a bill that would override local zoning officials to permit multi-family housing in every neighborhood, changing the character of quiet suburbs.
  • Oregon passed a similar bill, following moves by cities such as Minneapolis; Austin, Texas; and Seattle.
  • Proponents say urban lifestyles are better for the environment and that suburbs are bastions of racial segregation.
Democrats in Virginia may override local zoning to bring high-density housing, including public housing, to every neighborhood statewide — whether residents want it or not.

The measure could quickly transform the suburban lifestyle enjoyed by millions, permitting duplexes to be built on suburban lots in neighborhoods previously consisting of quiet streets and open green spaces. Proponents of “upzoning” say the changes are necessary because suburbs are bastions of segregation and elitism, as well as bad for the environment.

The move, which aims to provide “affordable housing,” might be fiercely opposed by local officials throughout the state, who have deliberately created and preserved neighborhoods with particular character — some dense and walkable, others semi-rural and private — to accommodate people’s various preferences.

But Democrats tout a state-level law’s ability to replace “not in my backyard” with “yes, in your backyard.”

House Delegate Ibraheem Samirah, a Democrat, introduced six housing measures Dec. 19, coinciding with Democrats’ takeover of the state legislature in November.

“Single-family housing zones would become two-zoned,” Samirah told the Daily Caller News Foundation. “Areas that would be impacted most would be the suburbs that have not done their part in helping out.”

“The real issues are the areas in between very dense areas which are single-family zoned. Those are the areas that the state is having significant trouble dealing with. They’re living in a bubble,” he said.

He said suburbs were “mostly white and wealthy” and that their local officials — who have historically been in charge of zoning — were ignoring the desires of poor people, who did not have time to lobby them to increase suburban density.

In response to a question about whether people who bought homes in spacious suburbs have valid reasons, not based on discrimination, for preferring to live that way — including a love for nature and desire to preserve woods and streams — he said: “Caring about nature is very important, but the more dense a neighborhood is, the more energy efficient it is.”

He said if local officials seek to change requirements like setbacks to make it impossible to build dense housing in areas zoned to preserve a nature feel, “if they make setbacks to block duplexes, there’d have to be a lawsuit to resolve whether those zoning provisions were necessary.”

He wrote on Facebook, “Because middle housing is what’s most affordable for low-income people and people of color, banning that housing in well-off neighborhoods chalks up to modern-day redlining, locking folks out of areas with better access to schools, jobs, transit, and other services and amenities.”

“I will certainly get pushback for this. Some will call it ‘state overreach.’ Some will express anxiety about neighborhood change. Some may even say that the supply issue doesn’t exist. But the research is clear: zoning is a barrier to more housing and integrated communities,” he continued.

He tweeted Sunday that that would include public housing. “Important Q about new social/public housing programs: where are we going to put the units? Under current zoning, new low-income housing is relegated to underinvested neighborhoods, concentrating poverty more. Ending exclusionary zoning has to be part of broader housing reform,” he said.

Tim Hannigan, chairman of the Fairfax County Republican Committee — in one of the areas Samirah represents — said that urban Democrats were waging war on the suburbs. (RELATED: As School District Implements Busing Over Near-Unanimous Opposition, Immigrants From Communist Countries Fear Socialism Has Followed Them)

“This could completely change the character of suburban residential life, because of the urbanization that would develop,” he told the DCNF. “So much of the American dream is built upon this idea of finding a nice quiet place to raise your family, and that is under assault.”

“This is a power-grab to take away the ability of local communities to establish their own zoning practices … literally trying to change the character of our communities,” he said.

He said suburbs were not equipped to handle the increased traffic, and “inevitably it will just push people to places where they feel they’ll get away from that, they may move to West Virginia to get their little plot of land.”

Minneapolis became the first city to eliminated single family zoning in December 2018, after a push by progressive advocacy groups promoting “equity.” Austin, Texas, and Seattle soon followed suit.

But those cities were amending zoning codes that have always been the domain of local governments. Oregon passed state legislation blocking local governments’ single-family zoning in July, CityLab reported.

It quoted Alex Baca, a Washington, D.C., urbanist with the site Greater Greater Washington, saying that single-family zoning is a tool for wealthy whites to maintain segregated neighborhoods and that the abolition of low-density neighborhoods is necessary for equity.

CityLab acknowledged that “residents might reasonably desire to keep the neighborhoods they love the way they are,” but said that implementing the law at the state level makes sure that those concerns can be more easily ignored.

“By preempting the ability of local governments to set their own restrictive zoning policies, the state policy would circumnavigate the complaints of local NIMBY homeowners who want to block denser housing,” it wrote. (RELATED: Dem Prosecutors Fear For Suburbs’ Safety As Radical District Attorneys, Fueled By Soros Cash, Take Control)

While he implied that suburbs are prejudiced, Samirah himself has a history of anti-Semitic comments, including saying sending money to Israel is worse than funding the Klu Klux Klan.

“I am so sorry that my ill-chosen words added to the pain of the Jewish community, and I seek your understanding and compassion as I prove to you our common humanity,” he said in February.

He interrupted a speech in July by President Donald Trump in Jamestown, Virginia, and said, “You can’t send us back! Virginia is our home.”

His father is Jordanian refugee Sabri Samirah, who authorities banned from the U.S. for a decade after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, in part because of his membership in the Muslim Brotherhood, the Chicago Tribune reported in 2014.
 
What a stupid idea. Good towns and cities have a MIX of housing. Flats in the centre allow people to live close to the central business district. Low rise flats with landscaping a little further out or as retirement homes. Some people want nightlife and proximity to bars, the city etc. Suburbs further out attract families who prioritise a yard for the kids and quiet streets over city bustle. One person will often want different things throughout their life - student and young in the city, to the burbs for kids, maybe back to sheltered housing in later life.
God what a depressing future, stacked up like fucking battery hens. The democrats are insane. Are they trying to get trump re elected?
 
Anyways, counterpoint for people who hate this: people should have the right to build what they want on their own land. Fuck neighborhood commissions. NoVa is so built up its in danger of becoming another San Francisco and it doesn't even have the excuse of being surrounded by water on three sides.
So...people shouldn't be forced to have multi-family housing built on their property?
 
Yes. So they can get crazier and impose shitter policies.
This is a good policy though, this is one of the best politics for keeping the price of housing down.
Its literally just a new zoning ordnance that says "Single family housed zones are also zoned for mutlifamily housing."
 
They should do this shit out in California, where there's actual housing and employment problems. But no, do this somewhere that is moderately populated.

This is entirely about being able to punish wrong-think, because I guarantee that the home of FBI Glow-in-the Darkies, right outside D.C., is more than willing to punish any counties that dare to vote for the wrong candidates. This is never going to be applied to places where the Correct Opinions™ are held.
 
This is entirely about being able to punish wrong-think, because I guarantee that the home of FBI Glow-in-the Darkies, right outside D.C., is more than willing to punish any counties that dare to vote for the wrong candidates. This is never going to be applied to places where the Correct Opinions™ are held.
Oh yes the punishment of "Single family housing zoned areas are now zoned for duplexes as well, allowing a landowner MORE FREEDOM IN THE USE OF THEIR LAND."

Fucking savage, gottem, destroyed.
 
This is a good policy though, this is one of the best politics for keeping the price of housing down.
Its literally just a new zoning ordnance that says "Single family housed zones are also zoned for mutlifamily housing."
It's also a good way to have out of control crime problems as the Obama administration previously tried to force developers to build a percentage of low income housing on every new development. So it's doing nothing to control the price of homes, other than the riff raff driving down property values.

***POWERLEVEL***

There's two main cities on the peninsula, Hampton, and Newport News. I live in Hampton Virginia, in one of the few pockets of older affluent neighborhoods.

It's a nice area because housing isn't cheap, at least by Virginia standards and it keeps the criminal element out. But the reality is the schools are all total shit.

So over the last two decades people moved out to York County and were willing to pay $400,000 / per house to live there and build the community. 20 years ago York County was basically old farm land and didn't even have city water or sewers. Now it's completely full so people are pushing out to Toano which is 40 minutes a way to do the same thing again.

My point is normal people don't want to live in third world war zones where the local 7-11 gets burned down every time some career felon gets himself killed fighting with the cops.

Being able to price people out of the market, as bad as that sounds, it's the strongest legal way to do it.
 
It's also a good way to have out of control crime problems as the Obama administration previously tried to force developers to build a percentage of low income housing on every new development. So it's doing nothing to control the price of homes, other than the riff raff driving down property values.

***POWERLEVEL***

There's two main cities on the peninsula, Hampton, and Newport News. I live in Hampton Virginia, in one of the few pockets of older affluent neighborhoods.

It's a nice area because housing isn't cheap, at least by Virginia standards and it keeps the criminal element out. But the reality is the schools are all total shit.

So over the last two decades people moved out to York County and were willing to pay $400,000 / per house to live there and build the community. 20 years ago York County was basically old farm land and didn't even have city water or sewers. Now it's completely full so people are pushing out to Toano which is 40 minutes a way to do the same thing again.

My point is normal people don't want to live in third world war zones where the local 7-11 gets burned down every time some career felon gets himself killed fighting with the cops.

Being able to price people out of the market, as bad as that sounds, it's the strongest legal way to do it.
This isn't fucking forcing the development of low income housing, its allowing people to build fucking duplexes and shit where previously single family housing was the only thing allowed

This is the best threat on A&H for showing how stupid fucking righties on here can be. This isn't forcing ANYTHING.
 
This isn't fucking forcing the development of low income housing, its allowing people to build fucking duplexes and shit where previously single family housing was the only thing allowed

This is the best threat on A&H for showing how stupid fucking righties on here can be. This isn't forcing ANYTHING.

If you actually believe the goal here is to build luxury condos instead of shitty subsidized low income housing I don't know how to help you.
 
This isn't fucking forcing the development of low income housing, its allowing people to build fucking duplexes and shit where previously single family housing was the only thing allowed

This is the best threat on A&H for showing how stupid fucking righties on here can be. This isn't forcing ANYTHING.
It's literally taking the power to zone out of the hands of the local government, who knows the area best and giving it to Richmond bureaucrats hundreds of miles away.

It's not just duplexs if you read the law, it's town houses as well.

More to the point the other law he proposed, HB 151 Accessory dwelling units, wants to legalize turning things like sheds on an existing property into homes.

Nobody wants your high density crime incubators.
 
This isn't fucking forcing the development of low income housing, its allowing people to build fucking duplexes and shit where previously single family housing was the only thing allowed

This is the best threat on A&H for showing how stupid fucking righties on here can be. This isn't forcing ANYTHING.
What a brainlet take. People have collectively decided, that they do not want their homes to be turned to ghetto war zones by choosing the representatives, who put in place these zoning restrictions. Now some assholes, who have gained their power base from vote farms stacked 20-stories high, are trying to restrict the freedom of single-family home owners, who didn't vote for these faggots.
 
If you actually believe the goal here is to build luxury condos instead of shitty subsidized low income housing I don't know how to help you.
Exacilty, duplexes get built out here all the time.

Off the top of my head Port Warwick in Newport News, a housing development from the mid-2000s with homes starting at $240,000 had several "Multi family dwellings", i.e. duplexes.

Nobody objects to this.

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This is actually based, single family housing is a zoning nightmare that makes you end up like California w/ housing prices.

I know blue men bad but have you considered blue men sometimes not that bad?

Crying about property values lmao get cucked you fucking whores are exactly what made California a total shithole
Virginia is not California, and this measure is more of a puntative fuck you to the suburban and rural cultures than it is any amount of compassion to the people on the bottom.

It’s telling that they framed it as a moral indictment of the middle class as opposed to an act of charity towards the disadvantaged. There’s a gulf of difference between a multi-millionaire squatting on prime downtown real estate in LA and a median income family that just wants a little slice of the Old Dominion’s natural beauty and culture.

Virginia counties place a lot of stock in preserving their natural resources and culture by managing development, and this is just another case of Richmond thinking it knows best. “Fuck your community for wanting to manage itself according to it’s own priorities and legacy. “

Housing is a complicated issue and I’ll admit I’m not as educated as I could be about it. There’s no fucking way this is just about housing though, and that’s abundantly clear from the rhetoric. That’s what has people the most pissed about it; this, plus the recent gun control push, plus the general attitude of the General Assembly has people seeing this as an attack in rural American culture. And honestly, it’s hard to say they’re wrong.

We’re talking about a Democrat controlled VA government that unironically floated the idea of enforcing gun control with the National fucking Guard. These are not people I trust to implement their policy safely and equitably.
 
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