Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Love Machine]

Any word on theatrical cuts of the OT from disney? I know I heard rumours about it. I'm really fucking stalty about my vhs' getting rect and not having the normal versions.

 

[Cemila Mandes]

Here's what I still don't get. JJ is listed as an executive producer for TLJ. And since they were bought by Disney, Lucasfilm has repeatedly shown that they'll remove directors from projects if they're not satisfied with them. So JJ had to have known what Rian was doing before the film was finished and he could have advocated for his removal. But he didn't and now look what we got stuck with.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas, I've got more time than anything to write more of this stuff, so this double-whammy of Pts. 5 and Pts. 6 is my Xmas present to you all, written at work.

I'm a sucker for fanfics, count me in on wanting to read your stuff. But first I will need to catch up from part 1 so don't spect opinions until then .

Here's what I still don't get. JJ is listed as an executive producer for TLJ. And since they were bought by Disney, Lucasfilm has repeatedly shown that they'll remove directors from projects if they're not satisfied with them. So JJ had to have known what Rian was doing before the film was finished and he could have advocated for his removal. But he didn't and now look what we got stuck with.

"Executive producer" is a very misleading term. If I recall correctly, it can mean anything from "does literally nothing," to "micromanaged the hell out of the director"

Hollywood uses it to trick you someone you recognize was heavily involved to sell tickets, but they might have done nothing at all.

Take Christopher Nolan for example. He was an "executive producer" in Batman V Superman, but he actually didn't do anything at all besides putting his name, and maybe collecting a check.

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The one that actually had any power was K.K given she is the head of lucasfilm. J.J and Ryan were just contracted to do their directing jobs. I don't think they even qualify as employees.

If anything Ryan had more power than J.J, considering he was K.K personal bootlicker, and made TLJ to appeal to her poltical agenda, and J,J was just a big name director trying to profit of nostalgia.

 

[Cemila Mandes]

"Executive producer" is a very misleading term. If I recall correctly, it can mean anything from "does literally nothing," to "micromanaged the hell out of the director"

Hollywood uses it to trick you someone you recognize was heavily involved to sell tickets, but they might have done nothing at all.

Take Christopher Nolan for example. He was an "executive producer" in Batman V Superman, but he actually didn't do anything at all besides putting his name, and maybe collecting a check.

'Justice League' Credits Christopher Nolan as Executive Producer

As Justice League's release date gets closer and closer, we're seeing more and more official [...]

comicbook.com

The one that actually had any power was K.K given she is the head of lucasfilm. J.J and Ryan were just contracted to do their directing jobs. I don't think they even qualify as employees.

If anything Ryan had more power than J.J, considering he was K.K personal bootlicker, and made TLJ to appeal to her poltical agenda, and J,J was just a big name director trying to profit of nostalgia.

While being an "executive producer" doesn't specify what JJ really did for TLJ, you would think he was at least behind the scenes and aware of how Rian was handling the story before a cut was submitted. Or at the very least, he had the power to go behind the scenes, even if he chose not to. And while JJ isn't a Lucasfilm employee (as far as I'm aware), he does hold power as one of their potential director picks. If they offend him, he could refuse a job and they'll be left scrambling for another director.

But let's also not forget that the original director for TRoS was Colin Trevorrow. So to play conspiracy theorist, I think JJ was aware of Rian's decisions and didn't like them, but didn't intervene because he expected the problems to be dumped on Colin's lap. When Colin was canned from Episode IX, JJ was forced to take care of them himself.

 

[Lodoss Warrior]

From r/saltierthancrait:

 

[XtrmGamr719]

From r/saltierthancrait:

Everything cool that happened involving the Emperor, the Empire, the force, or the prophecy have just retroactively been shat on and I just fucking hate it. The nu-Trilogy just makes everything meaningless in the end all for Ma-Rey Sue.

 

[Oaat]

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According to the text it's not just a copy of an ISD, it's a copy of an ISD scaled up. I can't express in words how dumb that is. JJ pulled this same crap in NuTrek because he doesn't care about keeping spaceships at a consistent scale and/or just thinks that bigger=better. Although maybe here it's just an excuse they threw in to justify the death star lasers, I don't remember how big they looked in the film.

Any word on theatrical cuts of the OT from disney? I know I heard rumours about it. I'm really fucking stalty about my vhs' getting rect and not having the normal versions.

Stop expecting Disney to do it and look up the Despecialized Edition you consoomer.

 

[Love Machine]

If falling in love is such a big deal for the jedi, and they lasted thousands of years on this principle. Why not just chemically castrate themselves at some point?

 

[XYZpdq]

Stop expecting Disney to do it and look up the Despecialized Edition you consoomer.

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there's no excuse at this point

 

[JambledUpWords]

If falling in love is such a big deal for the jedi, and they lasted thousands of years on this principle. Why not just chemically castrate themselves at some point?

Maybe in the next trilogy, the main Star Wars character will be a troon Jedi?

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

If falling in love is such a big deal for the jedi, and they lasted thousands of years on this principle. Why not just chemically castrate themselves at some point?

Forming attachments is forbidden, pump and dump is the true Jedi way!

 

[Happy Fish]

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cringe bro. Also nice ifunny logo.

Lucas killed the franchise with the prequels, JJ took a shit on the corpse, and Rian Johnson just fucking raped it. Empire Strikes Back was a fluke that carried the movies.

Edit: LMAO lots of JarJar fans here. Sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Pure art, amirite? Holy fuck I didn't realize how many delusional idiots think Lucas was any good. Disney is soulless and evil but don't even begin to act like the prequels were any good outside of Sheev. The movie series has been on a downward spiral since ROTJ and thats facts, fam.

 

[UnKillFill]

I'm gonna get a ton of "late" votes for this, I know (especially since I just said that...) But I decided to re-watch the 6ish decent star wars movies, and just finished Episode I...

I was curious who the chick they got to play Queen Armadillo's "decoy" in Episode I was, and it turns out it was Kiera Knightly. I don't know how I never knew this, maybe it's just because I never cared that much about Episode I, but whatever...

Side note, Episode I isn't anywhere near as bad as The Last Jedi was (I haven't seen Fall of Skywalker yet, and probably won't tbh). If Disney's goal was to make a trilogy so bad that the Prequel Trilogy looks good by comparison, I would say they finally have at least one success under their belt.

 

[Violence Jack]

I had a very interesting discussion with an old friend of mine, a religious scholar, and she had a very interesting take on the ST. Her belief was one very different than proposals I've heard here as to why the ST was made the way it was, but there's parts of her theory that jumped out at me as chillingly accurate - so much so that I had to bring it up here.

At the core, her argument was that while Star Wars itself is for the most part non-secular, it teaches valuable lessons that are timeless, and, much like the Three Virtues in Ultima, can easily be used as the basis for a sense of morality - a good one - that goes beyond the movie itself. That's what makes these movies so enduring: the stories they cover and the underlying themes in them are so good. Every single major character in the OT (and even the PT) that has a coherent character arc also teaches lessons to the viewer in the process as part of the storytelling. By any accounting, there's absolutely nothing objectionable in any of this.

....Unless you're a progressive utopian trying to usher in the glorious superior future, that is.

Many of the re-occurring themes in Star Wars are very straightforward: Don't take the easy way, because you'll suffer for it. Hard work and perseverance will carry you farther than you'd ever think. You can help people become better than they were just by being their friend and rubbing off on them. It's important to be brave. If you lose yourself in anger or fear, you'll lose sight of what's important. You can become more than what you were before, if you will yourself to it. Even the brightest prodigy may have a dark spot they are not proud of, and even most despicable person may be redeemable. Sometimes a little hope can go a long way.

Now note how these are directly the opposite of Progressive orthodoxy: The easy way is good. Hard work is for suckers. Fuck everyone else, you're the important one. You should be angry and afraid all the time, of everything, and ready to go completely off the chain based upon that anger and fear. You have no meaningful agency in your own life, so give up and revel in helplessness. Anyone guilty of original sin is forevermore guilty and irredeemably evil, except for those at the top of the progressive stack, who can do no wrong. We are all fucked if you don't do exactly what we want.

Her argument is thus that the ST was specifically intended to undermine and destroy Star Wars entirely because these simple values pose an existential threat to the Progressive world-view, which is already on the decline. It certainly explains their hatred of the fandom. If they'd just made terrible movies, but didn't do what they did in The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker, they'd just be one more piece of shitty Star Wars content in an ongoing landfill, ignored by the fandom entirely. The franchise endured worse in the past. That's not what they did. They went out of their way to unmake the previous movies. To destroy the messages and characters of old. You can't have someone who essentially became a hero from nothing and accomplished things on his own merits in current year, especially when the hero that accomplished this was a white male. Ergo, they turn one of the most optimistic, idealistic, beloved characters in a generation into a grumpy, vicious, murderous old hobo and without any payoff, and then gave him a meaningless death.

Kathleen Kennedy has made zero bones about her fucking hatred of the original fandom, as well as her progressive bonafides on Social Media, and if there's anything more autistic than the House of Mouse, it's the progressives and the entire pathological need for vindication. While I don't know if I fully buy it, this theory does, if truthful, makes a great deal of sense.

Your friend is very intelligent because that's exactly the reason why these movies were shit. They want to rub their style of 'virtues' in our face. It's a deliberate rejection of the cultural values the original movies aspired to. You know there's a reason why the three main characters who had character arcs end up losers who reverse their personal growth and die anticlimactically. Lol Lando lives tho because he's black, but even he abandoned his daughter because it's not like he has connections or could summon an entire fleet to look for her. In the current year there can be no learning, personal growth, or redemption. You're less than your purported labels and values are.

It's why disney is intentionally poisoning the well on star wars. Everything new has no soul and is a warped simulacrum of things done better being carefully erased for being "on the wrong side of history."

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Also to further show case that the designers aren't the problem but rather the higher ups, here is concept art of Canto Bight, then known only as "Casino Planet".

This concept art looks amazing, and -- quite honestly -- like something one would expect to see in any sort of Star Wars media. It's a real shame this was nixed by the highers-up in favor of something for more bland and unimpressive.

Ruining Luke is what it all comes down to for me, that's just so unbelievably shitty the way they treated his character, that's my biggest bone to pick, even beyond Rey being a Mary Sue.

Because what would have been so bad about having your Mary Sue character team up and kick some ass with a beloved older character? I thought that was part of the appeal of a Mary Sue character was vicariously spending time with characters you love, not shitting on them?

I like this idea. TLJ could have started with Luke being brought up to speed by Rey with what's happened in his absence. Realizing that he can no longer afford to sit and watch from the sidelines, he decides it's time to act. Although he can't take time to methodically train Rey as Yoda did with him in ESB, he could see her raw skill and teach her a few quick items to help her be more prepared for what's going to be a big showdown later on where the pair team together to take on Kylo and company. Heck, if Yoda still needs ot make a cameo here, have him appear briefly and comment how Luke has actually heeded Yoda's words in passing Jedi knowledge to Rey.

That (hopefully?) makes Rey less of a Mary Sue, gives Luke more of his expected personality back, and shows what you described as a beloved older character kicking ass with one of the new characters. Also, this also sets the stage for Luke to eventually bow out gracefully (another theme discussed by many here) and let Rey assume more responsibility.

Sorry I was late on the story. I did a search of the board and didn't see any sign of it.

Fear not, Flexible 'Farmer. With the way this thread has blown up in the past week, it's a challenge to keep up with any of it, let alone try to remember who posted what and when.

 

[UnKillFill]

I'll try spinning, that's a good trick.

 

[HeyYou]

It's official, The Rise of Skywalker sucks because it wasn't The Last Jedi. Didn't they criticize people who disliked TLJ by saying that it wasn't supposed to replicate the themes and plot of the OT and TFA? They're doing the same shit. On one hand, I'm happy that they're doing the exact same thing they got buttmad about others doing. On the other hand, Disney is absolutely fast tracking Rian Johnson back and it kills me.

Can someone who's a confirmed Wikipedia user change this back to how it originally was, about it being unoriginal and derivative? It's unironically not true, only a couple of the reviews in the critic response section mention TLJ. Some asshurt TLJ fanboy put this in there, guaranteed.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Your friend is very intelligent because that's exactly the reason why these movies were shit. They want to rub their style of 'virtues' in our face. It's a deliberate rejection of the cultural values the original movies aspired to. You know there's a reason why the three main characters who had character arcs end up losers who reverse their personal growth and die anticlimactically. Lol Lando lives tho because he's black, but even he abandoned his daughter because it's not like he has connections or could summon an entire fleet to look for her. In the current year there can be no learning, personal growth, or redemption. You're less than your purported labels and values are.

It's why disney is intentionally poisoning the well on star wars. Everything new has no soul and is a warped simulacrum of things done better being carefully erased for being "on the wrong side of history."

An even worse fate awaits Lando in whatever they're going to have him in next. He's a legacy character and going to be disposed of the moment Jar Jar and Darth Ruin need to eliminate him to make Mary Suewalker look good.

 

[Liquid Kent]

Spoiler: THE MASTER CALLS PT. 7

THE MASTER CALLS - 07 -

As the Falcon lands under Poe and Chewie's piloting, Poe gives me a jerk of his head, as Chewbacca tells me to make sure Uncle Luke's things are packed. "Do what you gotta do... Solo. We'll make sure the Falcon is up and running when we need to report back to Coruscant."

I could see that Poe is uncomfortable in calling me that, but we're not familiar enough to be on a first name basis. That was for Finn, Rey and Chewie. Maybe the droids as well. "Oh! Yes, Master Ben, do take of yourself, we will-" C-3PO was cut off by Chewie, who groaned back at 3PO that I knew what I was doing. "Dameron." I nod, and he waves at the regard.

I walked back towards the main hold to get to the loading ramp, greeted by Finn, or as I knew him as FN-2187, and the strangely captivating, seemingly perfect Rey. I looked at both of them and they looked at me. "What?" I was a bit cautious as Finn was fastening an empty holster across his waist. "I'm coming with both of you. Since you showed us what we saw in the vision, you need my help if that thing about the dark side cavern is true."

I gestured in annoyance, remembering what happened previously. "We don't need your help. Both Rey and I can handle ourselves." From the forest when I abducted Rey, fought Uncle Luke on the Salt Plains, delivering Rey to Snoke and our subsequent escape after my redemption... The last thing I needed was a trigger-happy First Order soldier who was more than concerned with Rey as a friend, same as I did.

A blaster rushes by my head, pulled into Finn's waiting arms with the Force. My eyes widen, as Finn puts on the jacket that once belonged to Poe. "...as I said, I'm coming." Rey explains that Finn discovered his Force-sensitivity during the assault on the Supremacy to rescue her, and that he's been using it well. I frown, Force-freezing him in place for the moment as he realizes what's happened and struggles against my power.

"...the Force is with you, FN-2187..." I unfreeze him and he draws his blaster, his face with that determined look I know all too well. I return the blaster to his holster and push him out of the open ramp behind him and Rey to defuse the situation. "Hey-WHOAH!" He lands on the ground with a thud, wincing.

I walk towards him with Rey next to me, as the wet gravel crunches under my boot slightly. "...but you are not a Jedi yet." Finn yells and reached for the lightsaber at Rey's waist- my grandfather's lightsaber- and he ignites it, bringing it to bear against me as my own lightsaber ignites and meets him.

"Enough....! Please...!" We stand there, blades locked before we are pulled apart by Rey, who demands that we stand down. I deactivate my lightsaber first, maybe that gesture will earn me some goodwill. Finn deactivates grandfather's lightsaber.

"We need to help you close the wound in the Force here on Ahch-To before Snoke and the Knights of Ren return to that world and find Master Skywalker there...!" Rey exclaimed, worried. "We don't want him to be outnumbered against these people we saw in your vision. These Knights..."

"The Knights of Ren were my students as well. Even though they outnumber us, I think we can manage." Luke Skywalker appeared from the cave we landed nearby, and we were all stunned. "Uncle Luke-" I was at a loss for words, I wanted to seal the wound here, be certain of who- or what Rey is by coming here myself, while avoiding Dromund Kaas. "-how- why are you here?"

Before anything could be explained, Uncle Luke drew me into a huge hug which left me awestruck. Only when I returned the hug did he start talking, the Jedi Master himself. "Ben. I told you before on that salt plain on Crait, I'm sorry. I won't make the same mistake again, not asking you of what you wanted, not considering your own opinions that do matter. You won't feel small again, I promise you." I felt tears well up at the corners of my eyes but I brushed them aside, gritting my teeth slightly.

"It's all right, Uncle Luke." I managed, stray tears still managed to escape before I wiped them away. "The fault is mine..." I avoid looking at Rey and Finn before Uncle Luke puts his hand on my shoulder and corrects me. "No. It was Snoke. Our orders were both weak and I believed that a new golden age would be possible with the possibility of a surviving group of splinter Sith actually wanted to reconcile with the Jedi." He paused and I could see the burden in his eyes, the weight of consequence that I saw with the loss of my own parents. "I was taken in by his lies. I should have known better... Now we paid a heavy cost."

"But it's not too late." Rey said, and Finn nodded. "Like you said, Master Skywalker, it's never too late." Uncle Luke seemed to understand, looking at both Rey and Finn, before he smiled solemnly. "Alright... Alright. You must be wondering how I'm here so quickly. I didn't really waste time on Dromund Kaas, I simply recovered certain... Things from our friend Snoke's Dark Side Church."

He gestured we follow him into the cave he emerged from, and we all looked at each other. "...what did you find?" Rey asked. "What was recovered?" She questioned, as we walked into the cave which led further into a sunken chamber, light barely present from cracks in the surface.

We came face to face with a wall of ebon stone, the void of space staring back at us along the crystal surface. I saw through Rey's memory when I was escorting her to Snoke of this place, how it was darker, blacker than any place touched by Bogan. Uncle Luke presented us with a triumphant "those!"; Presenting one of the few stone slabs in the middle of the chamber, where something lay wrapped in cloth on each of them.

I felt the touch of Bogan as we felt it now in this cave on Ahch-To, when I was on Dromund Kaas, when Snoke anointed us his Knights of Ren in the Church of the Dark Side. I looked at Uncle Luke, worried. "Uncle! We might be in danger, I may become Kylo Ren again if I tasted this power. It's why you told me to stay and avoid going with you to the Church on Dromund Kaas...!" Uncle Luke smiled back and laid his hand on my shoulder reassuringly.

"It's alright Ben." He did it again, became the larger-than-life teacher, mentor and warrior that he was. "Together, slowly." He simply said, and he was right. With all four of us present, seemed to trigger a change in the area. The black crystal wall began to pulse with color, a low hum emanating from behind it. Rey and Finn backed slightly, Finn drawing his blaster pistol and Rey igniting grandfather's lightsaber. "Don't worry." Uncle Luke reassured again, leading us on. "This is how we will fix everything."

By now the cavern was bathed in pink light, vivid but giving off a strange calm, but at the same time there was this underlying hint of dread. Uncle Luke opened the cloth which contained cylindrical objects, and we gasped. Before us, on the open cloth were three lightsabers, one of silver and elegant curves, one a large, imposing object of black and chrome, and the last one a lightsaber of gold and silver, with a black finish around its grip.

Rey and Finn looked at one another before looking at Uncle Luke and I, where Uncle Luke unspooled the other two cloths which concealed other lightsabers. On the other slab, lay two lightsabers, one I knew from a time before, while the other I had seen in the academy before I changed. Rey reached out for the silver lightsaber with it's curves, and dropped it in horror when she activated it, it's crimson blade revealing itself.

"Darth Sidious's lightsaber." Uncle Luke announced grimly, as Rey regarded the only other lightsaber that fascinated her, the one of stark black and silver. "That's Vader's." Rey looked petrified, retreating from the lightsabers. I noticed Uncle Luke began to have a very pensive look, as if he was gauging us, gauging Rey especially, in some way. "I've never seen this one before." I state, picking up the third lightsaber in the group. "Whose is it...?"

"Someone who, had my father not intervened with who he was about to execute, might have changed the Galaxy in a very, very different way." I ignite the lightsaber, and the amethyst blade reflects the luminosity of the chamber. The lightsaber is pulled out of my grip by Finn, who seems to assume a stance that I see a ghost of a man overlay into him for a moment.

"The lightsaber called to you, didn't it...?" Uncle Luke said, as Finn deactivated it and kept it as his own. "...yes." Finn said in an uncomfortable whisper. "Like I know it from somewhere... Know him from somewhere..." Finn unconsciously mused aloud. I regarded Rey, who seemed to be very withdrawn and quiet. Uncle Luke sensed it too, and I asked him within the privacy between ourselves as Jedi, within the corners of our mind, that our two other Force-sensitive friends won't hear us.

"Uncle. Is that why you went to Dromund Kaas? To recover these weapons as some sort of... Fielding test to see... What, exactly?" I asked him, a mental hiss despite the fact we couldn't be heard. "That's right Ben. You feel it too, the power emanating from Rey? That isn't natural. No one is born with that much Force potential within themselves." I grew even more concerned. "I don't understand, Uncle. Grandfather was the Chosen One of prophecy, and his power was without equal. Yours is too." I paused, thinking if I would dare in the claim, the arrogance.

"And I know I have that power as well."

Uncle Luke nodded, mulling over his thoughts. "Of that, there is no doubt. Your power comes from a chosen line, but Rey... No one can be born unless something-" He validated my power immediately, and I knew that this was a definite change, it marked a true turning point. What was far more concerning wasn't my own feelings of whether I was adequate to the legacy, but rather, who Rey was.

"...are you saying something happened to her, Uncle? Some event in the past... Were her parents that couple at the temple? I remember the-"

"No Ben. It's not about who her parents are. It's who might have done this to her-"

Our private conversation was cut short as the cavern shuddered, but not out of any earthquake or tectonic movement. The crystals and cavern gave off cascades of alternating currents of energy from the Force, some of it was Ashla, and some of it... Bogan. Rey fell to her knees, wincing, while Finn ignited Mace Windu's lightsaber and turned round, facing the late Master Windu himself from across the gulf of space and time.

I looked to Uncle Luke, my own eyes growing wide, unable to believe what I saw. Behind him, in the Crystal's surfaces, reflections on reality of a younger version of my uncle, sleeveless and wielding his lightsaber in one hand, but holding another lightsaber with a shorter crimson blade. In another overlap, my uncle was wearing black robes with a high collar, possessing eyes of Bogan and radiating malice.

"Uncle...! Watch out...!" I warned him, and Uncle Luke reached out, his cream-colored robes shining against the lime-sheen reflection of his own green lightsaber he pulled from the last slab in the cavern, brought to bear against a strange masked pilot in a purple suit and brown flight pants, the warrior's yellow lightsaber clashing against my Uncle's own Lightsaber.

"BEN!" He shouted at me, echoing my father. "Draw upon the energies of the cave!" He said, withstanding the flight man with the yellow lightsaber. I could hear the strange pilot breathe with the familiar rasp of grandfather. "Draw from Rey, I think she may be a wound in the Force! Close this wound in it... Hurry!" Horrified, I ignited my lightsaber amid the growing chaos. "That doesn't make any sense, Uncle- how would- do I-"

"Questions later, Ben! Actions NOW!" Uncle Luke pushed back the rasping pilot and they regarded each other, versions of Uncle Luke overlapping and phasing between each of them as they stood there, staring amidst the growing howl of the Force. I ran over to Rey, where she was curled intk a ball, tears streaking down her face, screaming amidst the pain and chaos.

"Rey... REY! It's alright... You're going to be alright...!" I reached out for her, before a flash of energy uncoiled and struck us both from the crystal wall. "D-dont... Don't leave me alone-!" I heard her say, before I felt an unimaginable pull that dragged me towards the crystal. "-NO-!"

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In the humming of the chamber within the ice castle of Exogol, the Knights stood before the shimmering font of power which was the mysterious crystal at the edge of the Galaxy. They used Bogan itself, bargaining and sifting through it's latent energies to observe the many different variants of what could be, what would be and should be, until they saw the Master staring back.

So they reached out and took him. The crystal sparked as the distant lightning rained down across the lands and thunder grew in strength, rumbling the castle's foundations, such as they were. With a flash, the smoking form of Ben Solo lay before them, and the crystal returned to normal, pulsing alternatively with a lazy hum.

We draw our weapons. Kuruk trains his disruptor rifle on the Master, as Trudgen, Ap'lek and myself unsling our weapons while Ushar primes a thermal detonator. It would be comedic if the situation wasn't so desperate with what we brought back. Ashla hung over the Master like a cloak, one that he wore when he turned us, journeyed with us to Dromund Kaas to learn from Lord Snoke.

"Master Ren." He looks up at us, a half-groan escapes him as the smoke dissipates from his slightly singed tunic. He rises, and we hear his thoughts, the first one directed to me.

"...Jerenn...?"

I point my scythe at him, projecting my disgust to convey my emotions through the mask. All of us. "I am Vicrul Ren now, Master. Thanks to you." The Master blinks and looks from left to right among us, and realizes where he is.

"You have to send me back." He exclaims. We see the image of the girl Rey in his mind. There is so much he does not know, that he needs to know. So little time. "No. You must lead us again, against the girl! She must be destroyed."

"I need to know what Rey is... that's all. Things can be different. I will not fight you..." the Master states, as he takes out his crossguard lightsaber and holds his arms out about himself, showing no threatening movements. "I'm sorry. For what I did... Sent you down dark path-"

"-that forever dominated our destiny." Kuruk finished, as his sights were still trained on the Master. We sensed Bogan over us again, seeping through us, even the Master. We behaved almost as one again.

"Do not apologize." Ap'lek said, as he holstered his polearm axe and drew out two lightsabers. One his own, and the other Kassida's yellow-bladed one.

"This is who we are meant to be." Ushar continued, throwing aside the thermal detonator and igniting his lightsaber as the bomb went off behind him.

"It is unwise..." Trudgen said, holding out his cleaver in one hand, and his lightsaber in the other. "...to lower your defenses." As soon as I ignited my lightsaber, Ap'lek and Trudgen ignited theirs as well. I saw the Master falter slightly, before he lowered his arms, and we felt Bogan reassert itself around us.

The Master ignited his lightsaber, and we knew what would come next.

We saw it. We knew it.

"Welcome home, Master Ren."

I wanted it to be a "celebration" of Star Wars like how the Rat says the Skywalker Saga 'ends everything' and is pushing for an ending that isn't as all-encompassing like how they sell themselves. I hope I haven't made anyone to sound too dopey or cringy, I'm surprised I even got this far.

@Adamska
@GeneralFriendliness
@Kiwi Lime Pie
@The Decimator
@Starscreams Cape
@Pixy Misa
@Violence Jack

 

[UnKillFill]

I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating, and it get's everywhere... please don't bury my son's lightsaber here.