sperging about chantal's psychopathology

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She's redoing her setup because it's Jan. 1st and she's insane. She's planning on starting fresh 1/1, a new setup, a new schedule, she probably bought a bunch of trash and will buy more in the next few days. In her head, everything will magically change when she wakes up on the 1st. She'll never be that fat, gross, joke of a person again. I bet she's on Cloud Nine with delusions of how wonderful she'll become in 2020. She's high on it.

Of course, since that means no more junk food, she'll have to eat all of her favorites in the next few days prior to the 1st. Just to "get it out of her system". It will "be the last fast food for a while!" And all of the other things she tells herself every time. So she's taking off because the next week will be the final last hurrah of 2019, and it will be a week long.

Thing is, she isn't really taking off. Tomorrow she'll realize that she's sitting there at her mukbang desk and already has three or four meals in front of her for lunch, she'll have already done her makeup for Aziz, so she'll figure she might as well film one last mukbang! And then another one when dinner rolls around, rinse and repeat.

This is so accurate and is exactly how addictive thinking works. I used to do exactly the same when I was off my face on drugs all the time, I'd think "Right, once this bag has run out, I'm quitting. In fact, it's better for me to quit soon so I'll do this entire bag of drugs in one night - one last hoorah - yaaaay!" and have a massive binge.

Of course, invariably that would make the come-down a million times worse and I'd think "well now I feel like crap - what would cheer me up? I KNOW, MORE DRUGS!" and the whole thing would begin again. To eventually get myself clean I literally had to give someone my credit card so I couldn't get cash out - I couldn't be trusted with it; I'd always find an excuse to go back to them. And Chantal has no-one in her life that would do that for her. Bibi certainly won't, I don't think he'd want to incur her wrath, and I can't imagine the family would either.

She'll get to January 1st intending to eat 100% healthily, but by the evening she'll allow herself a snack, or some chicken wings, or some gravy, but tell herself that it's okay because she's eating less than she used to. Then she'll figure it's okay for her to overeat still, so long as she's overeating less than she did.

And then, possibly after a week, as you've said, she'll give up on the whole thing, telling herself that full on gross mukbangs are what her viewers want to see and she doesn't want to disappoint them or something stupid like that.

There is no end to the carousel.
 
No matter how "bad" a child is, it is not okay for either parent to bail. That includes bailing mentally to do drugs and such. That really fucks with a child's psyche.
Not after that child is an adult. If children get to leave behind toxic, manipulative parents: so do parents of toxic, manipulative kids.

Narcs and BPDs are most often both made AND born - but sometimes, they're just born. And I've seen what happens to the sweet and well meaning ever indulgent parent of a narcissist. Elder abuse is the best outcome.
 
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Not after that child is an adult. If children get to leave behind toxic, manipulative parents: so do parents of toxic, manipulate kids.

Narcs and BPDs are most often both made AND born - but sometimes, they're just born. And I've seen what happens to the sweet and well meaning ever indulgent parent of a narcissist. Elder abuse is the best outcome.

from her own stories, it is clear that her malignant and hateful behavior was already well established even before her teens. As a teen, her own mom put her in a group home, rather than put up with her and to protect the younger sister from Chantals abuse.

As a teen ( 15 y.o. ?) she faked an overdose ( of her psych meds) to retaliate against her mom would not let her spend the night at her 20 something pedophile bf's house. Once she was in the psych ward, she said she knew she could manipulate her grandmother into getting her out and she did. While on the psych ward she harassed an anorexic girl into giving up the candy that her family gave her. She mocked the other patients who were genuinely ill and suffering.well. She has ALWAYS been a bully. She has zero remorse and tells these stories as if they are amusing.

Evil children do exist. Some are born psychopaths or have personality disorders. This cannot be cured. They do not change, except to become more evil as they grow. You cannot form a true bond or loving relationship with such a child. They are not capable of feeling empathy, remorse or love. Your love and dedication means nothing to them except as a way to manipulate you.

I am forever grateful that she has been rendered unable to have children.
 
Eh, I'm usually the first to vouch for a cows childhood contributing heavily towards their current shitty behavior. I just gone done doing that for poor Saint Amberlynn. But in Chinnys case... the amount of 'trauma' seems near non-existent. I can see being upset that your father ran out on you. He absolutely, 100% should NOT have walked out on a toddlers. No toddler is 'evil', and needs to be cut out of someones life. That's absolutely moronic. But like... honestly, I don't think Chinnys trashy dad going out to get cigarettes is what messed her up. He left when she was like 2 not 10, she didn't know him or depend on him for anything. I think Chinnys mom overindulging her because she felt bad her father left is what turned her into the porcine queen we all know and love. Chinny is a spoiled, greedy, entitled shit who never had to face the consequences of her own actions. By the time Chinny's mom tried, it was too late. Chinny is one of those gross people who had comfortable, 'privileged' childhoods, and wishes they had some horrible shit happen to them, because they think it gives you a free pass for bad behavior the rest of your life.

I generally don't write people off (even cows) because I think anyone can change if they have an honest desire to do so. But I just don't see that ever happening with Chinny. She really, honestly seems to think she's perfect (Just a little big) and that everyone else is the problem. Getting past that would take a lot of therapy and a lot of self reflection, and I don't think she's even remotely capable of that.
 
Quit playing armchair psychologist you niggers; it's gay, autistic, and the subject of what flavor of crazy she is has been discussed ad nauseam. Nobody cares about your pet theory into why Chantal is the way she is besides you. Trying to come up with (substantive) explanations for her behavior is also utterly pointless due to her fundamental inability to tell the truth.
 
I also believe that Chinny was spoiled rotten as a way to overcompensate for certain short comings like the absent dad. I also believe that it contributed to her being able to manipulate mom and grandma at a very early age. They likely did not want to deal with a chimpout, so they just indulged her. Chinny was the star of the show until baby sister came along. Then she had to relinquish her top billing. Then we saw the mean version of Chantal. The one who will go to any means for attention. I think she was predisposed to mental issues/personality disorders and mom and grandma unwittingly fostered them. What was relatively easy pain in the ass to deal with at age 9 became a full blown nightmare by age 16. To this day, we can see how their family dynamic seems to work. When Chinny is with her family it is always awkward. They tolerate her presence. Maybe because they never know what will set her off. To this day, she can count on grandma for funds. Grandma ponies up the cash because Chinny knows how to push buttons. The whole family figured out the best course of action for their own sanity is to get her in and out as fast as possible. If it means a pay off, so be it.

Such people are honestly not that unsusual. Spoiled by weak, indulgent, sometimes single (and sometimes not) parents who either feel guilty for something not in their control like an absent father or mother, or who are just too lazy to set boundaries and rules and apply them consistently. So the kid learns early if they act the maggot they will get what they want and by the time the parent realises they created a monster, they're too big and ugly to physically control and no normal parental-child respect exists, so they palm them off on social services whining they can't handle them and need 'help' .... this stuff is very common. Plenty of horrible people around from the exact upbringing - no actual abuse at all, nothign that fits that description, just shit weak parenting, often by people who were shit-parented themselves, who think you can always delay dealing with a problem or pass it off on someone else to deal with. The deal with the parent is always some form of abnegation of responsibility at every stage. You get a kid with a particular set of natural personality traits exposed to this level of weak and inconsistent/indulgent parenting and you get very, very bad results - kids who end up in prison because they're off the rails by mid-teens, addicts, or just fat, stupid, grotesque, selfish, addicted to food shut-ins with decaying mental states unable to recognise what messes they are, like Chinny. We've all known people like this, surely?

The difference is most people don't have a YT channel memorializing their entire range of physical and mental dysfunction to the planet. The sphere of fame for most nasty, spoiled children who grow up to be nasty, spoiled adults is the unfortunates related to them, neighbours, service workers who have to deal with their nastiness and co-workers. Chinny would be just that, with a very small range of fame (her dumb bf and her family) if not for YT.
 
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One easy exercise in assessing Chantal's lack of emotional development would be imagining the direction her channel could've taken if run by anybody other than herself. If it was somebody who embraced the drama, she could be over 100k subs by now and making bank throwing her weight around, collabing with the other Big Beasts of the scene who are forced to recognise her due to her success. If she used her audience to motivate herself to lose weight, she'd be well along that path by now. Instead it's a child's playground where she throws her toys around in anger, and nothing is ever followed through. It's a good reflection of her personality.
 
I am not surprised that a heavily subsidised healthcare system wouldn't pay for most types of therapy. Advanced Cluster B/NPD nutjobs like Chantal are untreatable and would prolong the sessions indefinitely for the attention. For all the expense and waste Chantal currently costs the Canadian taxpayer, it's nothing compared to cost of constant therapy with a highly-paid professional that will never resolve her issues and that the state is not legally allowed to deny. If every sad-brained fatso and tranny suddenly had free access to a state-funded best friend, they're hardly going to let that go without a fight.
 
Going back to her paying for therapy. I live in Canada. We have universal healthcare but not universal drug plan or anything to cover therapy. Now, before I was married, my husband had me on his insurance policy from where he worked because we lived together and were considered "common law partners". So I had discounts on drugs and therapy. My question is, why doesn't her boy have her on his insurance policy? Are they together or are they really just room mates?
 
Many people experience depression in their lifetime- in fact based on the anger in this thread (and all the asocial tism that got us here) it’s safe to say most kiwis do. People go through shit every day and pick themselves up and keep moving. Every single person on the planet has shit, every family has skeletons in the closet. She lacks theory of mind and couldn’t imagine that someone else could suffer as much as she does.

Chantal is not special nor is she actually depressed- at least not in the traditional way. She’s having a fake pity party hoping people will feel sorry for the fat girl and just give her the one chance she needs to show everyone she CAN CHANGE. She won’t though, I know shocker to anyone who follows her. Just using “food addiction” as an excuse to go gorge herself on fast food. Now if addicts can’t be held accountable because they smacked a label on themselves- does that mean I can slam a bunch of heroin and fuck whoever has to deal with me? Sounds like something that Chantal would turn around and use for clickbait fodder story time if she witnessed someone totally gone on drugs. She only wants empathy and understanding for food addicts- meaning only pity for her.

What Chantal is experiencing is emptiness, she has no discernible personality outside of being a cunt and her interests include food, herself, bodily functions and netflix. That’s why she likes the shiny labels of (self diagnosed) illnesses, she molds herself around them because it allows her to be the poor victim and “excuses” her behavior. While Narcs are associated with inflated ego, lack of stable identity and a feeling of emptiness is the other side of the coin. It’s why they can be so over the top, it’s just overcompensating.

But please, I hope she puts more videos out about how she’s so victimized because people laughed at her for being a fat, man looking, freak and no one wants to have sex with he. They usually backfire and the excuses for her behavior and claims are really funny, I think I got one more in me before the new year-

lol die Chantal
 
I've come to believe that Chantal is a trans-fit woman. She approaches fitness and health the way all the men in dresses over in the Rat King approach being female. It's a shitty performance based on a vast oversimplification of fitness/femaleness, but these sorts of folk believe that if they keep reenacting the same performance that soon everyone will admit that they are not going to die of a coronary in ten minutes/aren't a bridge troll in a tutu and their transformation will be complete.

Look at the troons and how they approach their transformation. Balding, obese men with hirsute trunks decide they want to be pretty pretty princesses. They grow out their dying hairlines into Riffraff-style skullets, dye them pink, buy purple or bright red lipstick, blue eye shadow, rainbow tights, a five dollar Walmart bra, a t-shirt with an anime character on it, a sarong they can barely fasten around their guts, assemble these costumes and BOOM! They're a woman.

In fact, they're a beautiful woman. No one hassles natal women for not shaving their backs, so why should they? What do you mean their makeup looks like a child was fed nothing but sugar and scrawled all over their face and maybe they could check some YouTube tutorials? You're just jealous because they're hotter than you. How dare you insinuate that they are not really experiencing menstrual cramps just because they decided to wear a skirt? Their girldick bleeds just like your genuine female reproductive system and soon they'll seduce your husband, have his baby and run you off Twitter if you so much as roll your eyes!

Chantal has the same essential misunderstandings, desire for performance, and need for instant ego gratification. That's what all that Costco shopping was - a sort of performance in the theater of the healthy home cook. Broccoli, apples and sardines are all excellent foods crammed with micronutrients so whether or not one can construct home cooked meals around those ingredients is irrelevant. What do you mean there is more to healthy eating than scanning frozen food labels to make sure they don't have any type one carcinogens? She's healthier than all those people with good blood pressure, cholesterol, and healing gut incisions because they don't scan for cancer-causing agents some ghost mentioned in book Gwyneth Paltrow mentioned and look at how skinny she is!

From her vegan lectures, to her keto engagement, to her Costco trips, to healthy mukbangs, to her Walmart business pants worn to the gym where she takes a picture then waddles out and gets Starbucks egg bites (egg whites are good for you, duh!) to fuel her post-workout body, Chantal is as devoted to the performance of healthy eating as men in dresses are to the performance of pretending to be women. Actual results are meaningless, all that matters is her interpretation of what it means to be healthy, the comical theater as she mimics behavior she doesn't really understand as she tries to achieve a result that she genuinely believes can be attained very easily via inaccurately aping what she has determined being fit must entail. Genuine advice from slim, fit people is ignored, or even demonized as gate-keeping, just as troons ignore natal women who question whether or not wearing a red cap with matching lipstick on his teeth makes Fire a woman.

Transfit. Trans-fit. Cross-fat. It's a brave new world.
 
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I swear to god if she tries this route- my past posts will look tame in comparison to what’s coming. It’s not anxiety related either you dolt, it’s trauma related, and I don’t mean not getting enough sauces. People dissociate from time to time yes, but having it chronically (it can be a symptom of various mental illnesses including personality disorders HINT HINT) but to the point that it’s the main issue is a hellscape that shouldn’t be put on anyone and often is the result of severe childhood trauma and neglect.

Go ahead give me hats but this shit is nasty in a way I can’t put into words. I wouldn’t even wish it ON Chantal and I’m not particularly fond of her as a whole.
 
It’s not anxiety related either you dolt, it’s trauma related

Anxiety is often related to trauma, so maybe that's what the poster means? Disassociation is listed as a symptom/reaction to anxiety, and at least where I live (country that uses the ICD versus DSM) it's taught like that in therapy groups for people who have anxiety disorders
 
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Many people quit drinking and doing drugs alone. Most people, however, require a period of medically-supervised detox, and most importantly, an aftercare plan consisting of counselling, group support and therapy (e.g., AA or SMART or LifeRing), personal accountability, medication, or all of the above.

Does Chantal actually believe she's going to tackle her lifelong junk addiction alone? This toddler-woman with infantile impulses and reactions, a set behaviour pattern of immediate gratification, laziness, and indulgence, zero friends and family offering emotional assistance, and worst of all, no interest in cooking except perhaps once a week to show off on YouTube? (That's the infuriating thing about whiny deathfats: because they need their fix straightaway, they don't know / don't care about cooking and are flummoxed when it comes to methodical meal preparation)

She's not kidding anyone here. She needs hospitalization, and then ongoing, daily support. A monthly visit to a bored physician isn't going to cut it. However, this will never happen, because she has another fatal addiction, which is YouTube. Therefore, she has zero chance of making it to any sort of goal weight, so as I've said numerous times, she may as well continue doing what she loves to do and fuck all of these yawn-worthy weight-loss attempts. I mean, I do love the laffs, but let's get back on track here with some Carl's Jr, Chantal.
 
Many people quit drinking and doing drugs alone. Most people, however, require a period of medically-supervised detox, and most importantly, an aftercare plan consisting of counselling, group support and therapy (e.g., AA or SMART or LifeRing), personal accountability, medication, or all of the above.

She's not kidding anyone here. She needs hospitalization, and then ongoing, daily support. A monthly visit to a bored physician isn't going to cut it.
She's not going to get inpatient, it's not the US and she's accessing free healthcare, they won't do that. But what she does need is to re-access all the parts of the eating disorder clinic she was before, not just the nutritionist. Chantal absolutely needs appetite-suppressing medication/s right away, and she either needs counselling through the clinic or to give OA a crack. And she does need to get on the track for WLS because there are some hurdles she'd have to face for that and those would be pretty informative for her.
 
Anxiety is often related to trauma, so maybe that's what the poster means? Disassociation is listed as a symptom/reaction to anxiety, and at least where I live (country that uses the ICD versus DSM) it's taught like that in therapy groups for people who have anxiety disorders
Absolutely they can overlap. What makes it tricky is it can depend on how the individual handles it, for instance someone who frames their neglectful childhood as “normal” may not experience traditional or physical symptoms of anxiety due to denial. But they may experience disassociative fugue from never dealing with those issues. Refusing to deal with any emotion out of self preservation due to trauma tends to be the agreed upon theory. But there’s a debate if some of these conditions exist at all. It’s a conversation better had with a professional who specialized in dissociative disorders which isn’t exactly the most popular field.

But without a doubt symptoms shouldn’t be suggested to someone who medicalizes every ache and has munchie tendencies. The risk of her having psychosomatic symptoms is a lot higher and it’s something that only a mental health professional who is working on her case should handle.

tldr: yes and no, the severity needed to impact someone’s life at that level is usually related to unresolved childhood trauma which can manifest in ways as unique as the individual. Because that level of severity isn’t documented well the research is limited I’m just going with the general consensus.
 
I admit that I'm a newfag, and I haven't read all 1754 pages of this thread, so I don't know if when we are analyzing Chinny, if AAD has been suggested as one of several of the psychological reasons for why Chantal is who she is, but here goes.

Adult Attachment Disorder:
Some of these symptoms include: greater likelihood of addiction, impulsiveness, behaviors that are socially negative or inappropriate, desire for control, trust issues, unwillingness to accept responsibility, helplessness, anxiety, superficial positivity(tee hee) and depression.
Link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5778169/

It appears that there are a good number of studies being done that are finding some correlation between how children (birth thru 3 y/o) form attachments to their caregivers and obesity. Admittedly, obesity is complex and there are other psychological issues that correlate, but to me, it is pretty clear that something went terribly wrong to spawn a deathfat such as Chantal and the other fatties that we love to hate on this site. I kind of went down the rabbit hole after I happened upon this link...it provides a good number of links to other related studies.

Am I pointing the finger at Chantal's caregivers? Yep.
Does this excuse Chantal from responsibility for her life since she was an adult? Nope.

To me, it is pretty apparent that Chantal learned to self soothe with food, and considering that she has been obese since a very young age, it points to an upbringing that was lacking.
I guess it all comes down to what everyone here has been saying...CHANTAL GET HELP.
Her obesity is the symptom, not the disease.
Why do I give a shit? I resent our tax dollars being squandered on shit like this, when it is possible to have intervened a long time ago. I also like a redemption arc and I haven't been here long enough to become totally jaded. Give me a few more months and I expect that all my optimism will be dieded.

holy wall of text. apologies.
 
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CBT storyline incoming?


This is a textbook sociopath and narcissist at work.

Her social skills have been so perverted and retar.ded that she really believed Fruitarian would garner her the asspats she's been sorely lacking for months. That it was met with derision and a collective scoff even from her un-blocked fan club was a shock to her.

So, she responds like a sociopath; she doesn't really understand anything about why people react to her as they do. All she can do is clumsily read cues and try to dope out from them what people are thinking. Then, she presents herself as what she thinks people want to see and hear.

So after three years of this shit, finally today she realizes how "disordered" her thinking was. She realizes people need her to acknowledge that there's something wrong with her thinking, because that is literally what all the comments were saying before she shut them off. So, the sociopath conforms to expectations, without really understanding why these expectations exist.

"I am not saying I am cured, but I am learning" Now that she has acknowledged her mental dysfunction, she has to take control. By phrasing it this way, she is intentionally leaving room to be a fuck-up. She's learning, we all make mistakes. Can't blame her for learning.

She once again claims she will get therapy, despite baldly lying about being in therapy umpteen times. Part of this is just pure gaslighting, as she assumes nobody remembers her past. But it is also more of the "be what they want you to be" sociopathic mindset. None of it is sincere, none of it is true. She feels none of it, but she knows people keep telling her to go to therapy.

So: yes, like you all keep telling me, I will have balanced meals. She still doesn't mention "I will limit my portion size", and it is almost comical by now how she won't; she will never relinquish gluttony even if she has to balance it.

She is "not saying I won't eat out", so now eating out (which means fast food or Gluttony with Peetz) is back on the table.

She now admits to ordering fast food 3 times a day and eating it in secret, even though she swore she wasn't doing that repeatedly and blocked people for insinuating it. Her whole fat life has been one big fat lie. I love how she casually tosses this out there, as if it is helping her case to admit it. Unlike a lot of sociopaths, this one is not keenly intelligent, and she trips over her own fat self all the time.

She then essentially tells us that no matter how frustrated we are with her constant bullshit, we have no right to say anything because unless we have an eating disorder, we can never understand. Same old cop-out.

She admits again she is a dumbbell (more sociopathic manipulation)

She pretty much tells us that she retreated and "thought" of home cooked meals and sharing. In other words, another one of her fantasy sessions where she loses grasp of reality. Now she's supposedly psyched to put into motion the things she daydreamed about yesterday. Maybe a year ago, she would have. I just don't think she has the energy anymore.

The best part is this:

P.S. the resources I have found use CBT and other methods to stop the shame and guilt associated with binges so constantly criticizing and shaming others with an eating disorder only makes it worse. Before you throw judgment, try to fully understand the psychological damage you could potentially bring on someone.

Guyz, there is scientific proof that criticizing and shaming causes psychological damage. So no more negative comments.

She did not mention accountability today, I notice.
 
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This is a textbook sociopath and narcissist at work.

Her social skills have been so perverted and retar.ded that she really believed Fruitarian would garner her the asspats she's been sorely lacking for months. That it was met with derision and a collective scoff even from her un-blocked fan club was a shock to her.

So, she responds like a sociopath; she doesn't really understand anything about why people react to her as they do. All she can do is clumsily read cues and try to dope out from them what people are thinking. Then, she presents herself as what she thinks people want to see and hear.

So after three years of this shit, finally today she realizes how "disordered" her thinking was. She realizes people need her to acknowledge that there's something wrong with her thinking, because that is literally what all the comments were saying before she shut them off. So, the sociopath conforms to expectations, without really understanding why these expectations exist.

"I am not saying I am cured, but I am learning" Now that she has acknowledged her mental dysfunction, she has to take control. By phrasing it this way, she is intentionally leaving room to be a fuck-up. She's learning, we all make mistakes. Can't blame her for learning.

She once again claims she will get therapy, despite baldly lying about being in therapy umpteen times. Part of this is just pure gaslighting, as she assumes nobody remembers her past. But it is also more of the "be what they want you to be" sociopathic mindset. None of it is sincere, none of it is true. She feels none of it, but she knows people keep telling her to go to therapy.

So: yes, like you all keep telling me, I will have balanced meals. She still doesn't mention "I will limit my portion size", and it is almost comical by now how she won't; she will never relinquish gluttony even if she has to balance it.

She is "not saying I won't eat out", so now eating out (which means fast food or Gluttony with Peetz) is back on the table.

She now admits to ordering fast food 3 times a day and eating it in secret, even though she swore she wasn't doing that repeatedly and blocked people for insinuating it. Her whole fat life has been one big fat lie. I love how she casually tosses this out there, as if it is helping her case to admit it. Unlike a lot of sociopaths, this one is not keenly intelligent, and she trips over her own fat self all the time.

She then essentially tells us that no matter how frustrated we are with her constant bullshit, we have no right to say anything because unless we have an eating disorder, we can never understand. Same old cop-out.

She admits again she is a dumbbell (more sociopathic manipulation)

She pretty much tells us that she retreated and "thought" of home cooked meals and sharing. In other words, another one of her fantasy sessions where she loses grasp of reality. Now she's supposedly psyched to put into motion the things she daydreamed about yesterday. Maybe a year ago, she would have. I just don't think she has the energy anymore.

The best part is this:



Guyz, there is scientific proof that criticizing and shaming causes psychological damage. So no more negative comments.

She did not mention accountability today, I notice.

She’s decided that accountability is actually hate and shame. The switch has flipped: accountability has morphed from a positive thing that helps people achieve their goals to a negative one that actively harms them.

Down is up! Black is white! Her channel is like a David Lynch film!
 
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